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Topic: Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32
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Bluejay
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posted November 14, 2017 01:00 AM
  
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Whassa matter?Can't stand the heat. Leftists are going to have to come to terms with the truth. At this point, no one knows what the truth is regarding Roy Moore but you leftists should admit it...[b]YOU DON'T KNOW and stop flogging stories which fit your political agenda! [/B]
I haven’t been on this site since my pissy response to your Democratic rapist/molester thread. It brought too much negative energy and anger out in me so I took a break and I even considered editing my response. I’m glad I didn’t because this proves my point. You only care about politics, and you have no true morals or convictions. You don’t give a flying f#ck about victims of harassment, abuse, or rape....you only politicize these horrendous acts to suit your partisanship. SHAME!!! You are so quick to jump on any story involving a Democrat or Hollywood insider, but Republican polititicians deserve the benefit of the doubt? It has been verified that Roy Moore had an office down the hall from his 14 year old accuser, whom he approached in a custody hearing. Court records show she was there. He claims he never met her. He also claims to never have met a 16 year old waitress that claims he tried to rape her. Yet he signed her yearbook, with love, and does not deny that’s his handwriting. Jwhop, you are a F*ing hypocrite! IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted November 14, 2017 01:13 AM
I’ve read some of the responses here, Randall you should be ashamed! You bring up Bill Clinton? He hasn’t run since 1996! What about the current candidates? Hmmmm? News flash! Bill is not running. It’s beyond f*cked up that Hillary gets blamed for her husband’s cheating. As a country we should constantly strive for better without looking to the past. Where is your outrage over President Pu$$y grabber or Molester Moore?? It’s invisible... IP: Logged |
Catalina
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posted November 14, 2017 02:14 AM
Clinton was last elected in 96 BEFORE HIS CHARACTER WAS THROWN IN QUESTION. How is it that you two keep forgetting that no one voted for him after the deluge? You however voted for a man who preens himself by bragging about grabbing pusssy and how celebrity will get you in free. A friend of HV who knew but said nothing just like the people you cluck about in Hollywood! A buddy of Epsteins who partied on his island alongside Clinton. And as it happens none of Clintons accusers were children and half of them had very dubious stories. You want to say all these Hollywood celebs are Dems? What about Cosby..? Wasnt he everyone's favourite alleged pervert last year? There are plenty of Repubs in Hollywood. Its always possible in these cases - where the stakes are high for many besides the alleged perp - that some or all the accusers are lying. But they too are innocent till proven guilty; a fact very few people Seem to realize. And the fact is an ordinary woman has little chance of going up against a man in a position of power in court.. she can't afford it for a start. Its also a fact that sexual misconduct is one of the oldest gimmicks in ther political playbook for getting rid of a rival. Seems Strange is keen to pursue this matter and other Repubs are anti- Moore too. So lets just stop trying to prove that all Dems are pervs and blackmailers/witchhunters and Repubs are straight laced and dewy eyed heroes
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Linda Jones
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posted November 14, 2017 03:57 AM
Hey jwhop, if your 14 or 16 yr old daughter told you that a 32 yr old roy moore kissed and fondled her, and made her touch his genitals, would you want to tear him apart with your bare hands or would you be proud she took one for the team? Would you tell her to make sure she backs up her allegation with proof as he was innocent until proven guilty? Just wondering...Sex assault is not and SHOULD NEVER be a partisan issue. It is a culture issue...a rape culture issue that is so entrenched in misogyny that it lets men get away with demeaning, harassing, objectifying, and assaulting women and young girls. It is a culture women have had to put up with for thousands of years, when society was forced into patriarchy from matriarchy. It's time to put an end to the rape culture, not only by women speaking up as they are now, but also by men supporting and defending them. Sex pervs must know that there are consequences like losing their jobs, livelihoods, and society's respect as has already happened/is happening in the cases of bill o'reilly, roger ailes, bill cosby, harvey weinstein, kevin spacey and the rest. And yes, there should be no statute of limitation on rape or sex assault because it is excruciatingly difficult for the majority of them to speak about it for decades even, primarily bc of re-victimization through societal blame, shaming, shunning, and fear of retaliation. IP: Logged |
Linda Jones
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posted November 14, 2017 04:01 AM
Notwithstanding the 16 yr age of consent in Alabama, which is pretty sick in and of itself (considering that the human brain doesn't fully develop until age 24 or 25), roy moore has openly admitted to "dating" (the brits call it kiddie fiddling) girls as young as 16. This alone should be a red flag even to the most conservative republican, belonging to the party of family values.Furthermore, moore told hannity that, "I'm sure in the next four weeks, they're going to come out with another article."
What an odd thing to say...as though he was preparing everyone for more women to come out and say he preyed on them too. [And a 5th accuser did just that! AND she didn't make her accusation through WaPo, but through her lawyer. AND she's willing to testify in court!]. Moore tried using reverse psychology to make people think he's innocent. Again, a huge red flag! And since pedophiles are hardwired to repeat their behavior multiple times until they're caught, I'm sure there are many more victims out there. But perhaps the biggest red flag is roy moore's single dissenting vote in 2015, in the case of eric higdon, a 17 yr old day care employee convicted of raping a 4 yr old boy. Higdon was found guilty under a sodomy statute specific to minors by all members of the 9-judge panel of the alabama supreme court, all members except one - judge roy moore. Moore stated there was no "evidence in this case of an implied threat of serious physical injury...or of an implied threat of death". A child was raped! What kind of judge says that? The exact same judge who sexually assaulted a 14 yr old while she was in his care! It is very clear that in his judgement, as long as he caused no serious physical injury or death to the 14 year old, he is not guilty of sex assault. With such a mind set of course he can deny he sexually assaulted the 14 yr old! He can deny it many times over! He could probably even pass a polygraph because he's so convinced he did no wrong. But does that make this bible thumper any less of a pedophile? Of course not! IP: Logged |
Linda Jones
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posted November 14, 2017 04:04 AM
The sick pervert (superlatives are wearing thin these days) is still being protected by the GOP. Their defense of him is just as appalling as they all are, but note how none of them disbelieve the 14 yr old, they only rush to rationalize moore's behavior. This need to protect moore means they know he did it...they may not have first hand knowledge of the sex assault but it looks like they know that, at the very least, he's quite capable of it because it was known by enough people that moore "liked" teenagers when he was in his 30s...these very same stories were picked up by the WaPo reporters who then spent a few weeks digging deeper and found that where there was smoke there was definitely fireTry wrapping your head around even one of these defenses of moore's behavior by the conservatives - - Jesus's dad did it, so what moore did was straight out from the bible, how could it be wrong!! [Never mind the minor point of Jesus's birth being to the VIRGIN Mary, so his dad never really "did" it, did he] - it happened so long ago, what does it matter, she's the age of consent NOW!?! - only one of his victims was 14, the others were 16 and 17! - yeah, 14 years old but c'mon, it was probably consensual (yes hannity went there! Wonder if he left his own daughter alone with roy moore after the interview) - it was the girl who didn't make "good decisions", so somehow it was her fault (victim blaming, in this case blaming a child for a grown d**chebag's actions) - the sex assault wasn't "forcible" enough to be a concern - screw all the victims for coming forward, they should all be prosecuted now! - yeah, child rape and all, but at least he's not a democrat, i'm voting for him anyway - then one southern prize peach, alabama state rep. Ed. Henry, trump's alabama campaign co-chairman, asked if there were any pictures Like i said, superlatives are wearing thin, but isn't there an expression...there are dicks and then there are DICKS!? Or is it...there are dicks and then there are a$$holes!? N/m because neither does full justice anyway. Even though it doesn't seem like it right now, sexual pervs are in the small minority. What is important to know is that they can't thrive without community support, either through active enabling or taking no action at all. Every monster, in the beginning, is small and weak enough to deal with and, hopefully, rescue. It takes scores of years, and thousands of people to look away, and millions of blind eyes turned, before a single roy moore or harvey weinstein is created. So it's a sick, dishonest culture that breeds this type of creation...a creation that would never develop if most people were not cowards, didn't live in fear, and weren't afraid of the consequences of speaking up. Now it looks like the lid is just about blowing off all the monster creations and i'm very glad! Because abuse of the vulnerable, be they women, children, developmentally challenged, disabled, elderly, or any other type - must stop. All of it. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted November 14, 2017 09:37 AM
Let me repeat.None of you know, no one knows except Roy Moore and his accusers, whether or not any of the allegations of illegal conduct ARE TRUE! But, for political reasons, you very much want them to be true or, if your political purposes are served, it doesn't matter if the allegations are true or not. Because of your "Mob" mentality, you..leftists, don't meet the definition of...a "jury of his peers" and I can't imagine any of you surviving the "jury selection process". Your motto is...Ready...Fire...Aim! IP: Logged |
Linda Jones
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posted November 14, 2017 01:56 PM
As i said, it takes scores of years, and thousands of people to look away, and millions of blind eyes turned, before a single roy moore or harvey weinstein is created. It took a mob to create roy moore and if it takes a mob to stop him from continuing to harm women and children, so be it!!Actually, what you're referring to as the "mob mentality" is called ZERO TOLERANCE FOR SEX ASSAULT, RAPE, AND SEXUAL MISCONDUCT OF ANY KIND! You should try it sometime, it will be good for the women in your life, might even get them to respect you more and bring some happiness and joy in your life IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted November 14, 2017 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Let me repeat.None of you know, no one knows except Roy Moore and his accusers, whether or not any of the allegations of illegal conduct ARE TRUE! But, for political reasons, you very much want them to be true or, if your political purposes are served, it doesn't matter if the allegations are true or not. Because of your "Mob" mentality, you..leftists, don't meet the definition of...a "jury of his peers" and I can't imagine any of you surviving the "jury selection process". Your motto is...Ready...Fire...Aim!
You literally created a thread titled “Hollywood Democrats War on Women” where you presumed all allegations against everyone you listed in that thread were true. Where is your “jury of his peers” bs in that thread. It doesn’t apply to them. You have a complete lack of self awareness because you are the one politicizing accusations against certain people, yet giving anyone with an R next to his name the benefit of doubt. I’m not sure if you’ve drank too much kool aid, or if you’re just a troll getting your kicks by getting a rise out of people. Either way your hypocrisy is mind boggling.
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Catalina
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posted November 14, 2017 03:14 PM
posted November 03, 2017 05:38 PM You need to learn to read with comprehension.Trump only talked about it. Your little democrat icons actually sexually assaulted women...for years and years.
Not only are you happy to convict on allegations when they are HOLLYWOOD DEMS but Tromp's word alone is enough to exonerate him despite multiple accusations that he did much more than talk.. his own bragging about how being the Boss gives him access to a roomful of naked girls and habitual description of women as "pieces of azz". But hes got the right agenda so who cares? IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted November 14, 2017 03:39 PM
"You literally created a thread titled “Hollywood Democrats War on Women” where you presumed all allegations against everyone you listed in that thread were true. Where is your “jury of his peers” bs in that thread. It doesn’t apply to them."Wrong, Harvey admitted he did it and sought treatment. Many of the others accused admitted it as well. No double standard exists...except on the leftist plain. All of which puts leftists in the curious position of defending those who admitted guilt while trying to hang Moore...who denies the allegations. IP: Logged |
Catalina
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posted November 14, 2017 04:25 PM
Thing is no one is defending them. And drnial is not proof of innocence.. tho Moore has admitted to some of the accusations at the same time excusing himself.IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted November 14, 2017 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Thing is no one is defending them. And drnial is not proof of innocence.. tho Moore has admitted to some of the accusations at the same time excusing himself.
Roy Moore has not admitted to any illegal sexual activity. More bullshiite from the Cracker Jacks News Network. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted November 14, 2017 09:13 PM
Moore on Beverly Young Nelson’s Story: ‘This Is Absolutely False — I Never Did What She Said I Did’
Pam Key
13 Nov 2017
Speaking to reporters at a news conference in Alabama, Republican U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore said today’s allegation that he attempted to rape Beverly Young Nelson when she was 16 years old was “absolutely false.”
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/11/13/moore-beverly-young-nelsons-story-absolutely-false-never-said/
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iQ
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posted November 14, 2017 11:44 PM
In cases of sexual harassment especially where the Predator was in a position of Power, International Decorum in Civilized Countries is for the Accused to Step Down until proven innocent. Even for one accusation. Roy Moore has 5 accusations and multiple corroborators for the accusers accounts, including proof that he visited Beverley's Restaurant when she was employed. A Civilized Human Being would have stepped away, and if innocent would come back stronger than ever but Roy Moore is not a Civilized Human Being. Hope Alabamans avoid voting that piece of Human Garbage.
Those who vote for him now, are risking Karmic Complicity in his crimes. As an NLP expert, I have no doubt that Beverley is speaking the truth. And even Republicans are finding her account more believable than the Pervert's denials. I have no doubt that the GOP will do their best to expel or boycott this Human Garbage if he were to scramble to a victory. Else they risk losing most of their women voters for a long, long time. Look at Roy Moore worshiper Sean Hannity's U-Turn in the past couple of days. He is suddenly suggesting that Moore should exit the race if he cannot prove his innocence.
All that it took to shake up Spineless Hannity was cutting off of Ads. Which company can endorse a Roy Moore?
Even Corporate honchos have daughters.
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teasel
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posted November 15, 2017 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Let me repeat.None of you know, no one knows except Roy Moore and his accusers, whether or not any of the allegations of illegal conduct ARE TRUE!
Funny, neither do YOU, when it comes to your accusations against Bill Clinton, or the people who reveled in Pizzagate, pulling "clues" out of nothing, but making something, because they desperately wanted it to be true.' There is proof here that he had contact with these girls he claims to not know. But you won't acknowledge that! It is purely political for you - just like the guy who got Pizzagate going in the first place. HE doxxed one of these women on twitter, and twitter did nothing about it. It absolutely proved that it was all political for him. IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted November 15, 2017 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"You literally created a thread titled “Hollywood Democrats War on Women” where you presumed all allegations against everyone you listed in that thread were true. Where is your “jury of his peers” bs in that thread. It doesn’t apply to them."Wrong, Harvey admitted he did it and sought treatment. Many of the others accused admitted it as well. No double standard exists...except on the leftist plain. All of which puts leftists in the curious position of defending those who admitted guilt while trying to hang Moore...who denies the allegations.
If you truly care about the victims of sexual assault, you will stop politicizing these stories. The real problem is that soooo many men are perverts. They live among us, unchallenged, unpunished, and they continue to prey on women without consequence.
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jwhop
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posted November 15, 2017 08:35 AM
"In cases of sexual harassment especially where the Predator was in a position of Power, International Decorum in Civilized Countries is for the Accused to Step Down until proven innocent. Even for one accusation."In your perfect little Socialist gulag, people are punished upon accusation, no proof required. How morally superior of you! We don't require the accused to "prove their innocence" in America. "Proof of guilt" falls on the shoulders of accusers. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted November 15, 2017 08:38 AM
"If you truly care about the victims of sexual assault, you will stop politicizing these stories.You mean stop politicizing stories of misconduct...the way democrat leftist lunatics are politicizing alleged misconduct by Roy Moore...14 days before an important Senate election in Alabama? IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted November 15, 2017 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
If you truly care about the victims of sexual assault, you will stop politicizing these stories. The real problem is that soooo many men are perverts. They live among us, unchallenged, unpunished, and they continue to prey on women without consequence.
Right. There's also a problem in some women supporting them - especially those who vote for them, date them, marry them. I wasn't happy that Hillary stayed with Bill. I wasn't happy that my sister stayed with my sexual harasser, and married him. Some women are complicit. IP: Logged |
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posted November 15, 2017 02:42 PM
Hillary should have kicked Bill out the moment he admitted to cheating.I feel that is the Karma which prevents her from winning. And a good news, Jeff Sessions might be the "Write In" to prevent a Pedophile Perv from winning a senate seat from Alabama. This could also save Jeff "I don't Recall" Sessions from further embarrassment. And Americans can stop recalling that they had an Attorney General for a Session in 2017...
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posted November 15, 2017 04:02 PM
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jwhop
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posted November 15, 2017 05:05 PM
"And a good news, Jeff Sessions might be the "Write In" to prevent a Pedophile Perv from winning a senate seat from Alabama."You have proof? Or, are you just blowing hot air through your lower orifice? IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted November 15, 2017 05:09 PM
November 15, 2017
Was that the same Congress that vowed to expel Moore the one that paid $15M in sex harassment claims?
Monica ShowalterA few days ago, members of Congress vowed to boot Roy Moore out of the Senate for ethical breaches if the Alabama voters dared elect him. Those are the same members whose Congress, it turns out, shelled out $15 million in sexual harassment claims. That's a $15-million taxpayer-financed slush fund designed to allow congressmembers to go sex-harassing on their own without penalty. The payouts come from us.....
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/11/was_that_the_same_congress_that_vowed_to_expel_moore_the_one_that_paid_15m_in_sex_harassment_claims.html IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted November 15, 2017 07:59 PM
Rush Limbaugh on Roy Moore: 'He was a Democrat' when alleged sexual activity with teens occurred
Updated 11:23 AMConservative pundit Rush Limbaugh pointed to Roy Moore's political history as a Democrat in the latest chapter of the controversy surrounding the embattled Senate candidate. During his Tuesday show, Limbaugh criticized Republicans for abandoning Moore in the wake of allegations he had sexual contact with teenaged girls when he was in his 30s. Moore has denied the allegations. "No matter what the real stories are here, and no matter what the evidence is, these guys, these people on the Republican side, are making it clear they are going to prevent this guy from ever being seated in the United States Senate," Limbaugh said. Two women have come forward saying they had sexual contact with Moore when they were teenagers in the late 1970s. At the time of the alleged incidents, Moore was an assistant District Attorney in Etowah County and a Democrat. That makes all the difference, Limbaugh said. "Did you know that before 1992, when a lot of this was going on, that Judge Moore was a Democrat?" Limbaugh said. "You didn't know that? How about all these people saying, "Yeah, yeah, everybody knew about Judge Moore, he's a good old boy!" While he was a Democrat, nobody said a word. When he supposedly was attracted to inappropriately aged girls, he was a Democrat." Moore was a Democrat in his early political career before making a switch to the Republican party in the early 1990s as part of a wave of change in the state. Moore was appointed to the circuit trial court bench in Etowah County after making the party change before going on to be elected to his first term as Alabama's Chief Justice in 2000.
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