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Catalina
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posted November 11, 2017 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That horse is way too high for you jwhop.

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posted November 11, 2017 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Creeps like Weinstein and Moore deserve to be publicly thrashed.
With heels of women, by women.

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posted November 11, 2017 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won't go there. They need to be dealt with seriously .. and legally.

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posted November 11, 2017 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Weinstein's removal and humiliation from all prestigious memberships would hurt him more than a public thrashing.

Seriously, the right legal steps would be such that there is assurance to all molested women that they can complain fearlessly, and expect to see the predators behind bars.

Legally, there should be no "Time Bar" for sexual molestation complaints. When any person is declared fit to be in a Jury acknowledges the facts, it is sufficient.

In Creepy Roy Moore's case, we have 4 women on record attest to his crimes. 30 different sources have been meticulously researched and recorded. And best of all, Creepy Roy has not denied the allegations, and is dragging in religion for support like a true Creepy Fanatic. Such Deplorable creeps can destroy millions of lives if they get elected.

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posted November 11, 2017 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I am not a White Supremacist. If I was that girl's dad, I would have castrated the scumbag, not elected him to office with fawning respect."

We do things a little differently here.

First, we give the accused the presumption of innocence while we investigate accusations. Then, if sufficient evidence of guilt is found, we charge the accused as a defendant in a criminal trial, make sure the accused has an attorney..of their choice or appointed to defend them and turn over all exculpatory evidence to the defense. Then, we have a trial where all the evidence is examined by a jury of the defendants peers, witnesses are called to testify and be cross examined, including the accusers who are also subject to cross examination. Then, if there is reasonable doubt as to guilt, defendants are found "not guilty". If there's no reasonable doubt of the defendants guilt found by the jury, the defendant is found guilty.

Then and only then would we castrate an accused.

Now, where's that list of 37 women who say Roy Moore sexually assaulted them? Or, was that just more leftist hyperbolic bullshiiite?

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posted November 11, 2017 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"In Creepy Roy Moore's case, we have 4 women on record attest to his crimes. 30 different sources have been meticulously researched and recorded. And best of all, Creepy Roy has not denied the allegations, and is dragging in religion for support like a true Creepy Fanatic. Such Deplorable creeps can destroy millions of lives if they get elected."

Lying with intent! Or perhaps you've been hibernating in your cave while Roy Moore has denied the accusations...over and over.

Now, where's those 30 different sources which have been meticulously researched? This would be a very good place to list them all. Go for it!

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posted November 11, 2017 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alabama ABC Affiliate Can’t Find One Voter Who Believes WaPo Report About Roy Moore in Man-on-the-Street Segment
Jeff Poor
10 Nov 2017


During a segment that aired on Friday’s broadcast of Birmingham, AL ABC affiliate WBMA 33/40’s 5 p.m. local news, political reporter Lauren Walsh sought out voters in Columbiana, AL to gauge their reactions to the Washington Post report that alleged Republican U.S. Senate hopeful Roy Moore engaged in inappropriate conduct with four teenage girls more than 34 years ago.

None of the respondents according to Walsh told her they believed the Post’s reporting.

“It’s hard to believe the events that transpired yesterday,” Gordon Fluker of nearby Wilsonville, AL said to Walsh about the Washington Post report.

Fluker’s response was the standard according to Walsh.

“Out of all the voters we spoke with Friday in Columbiana, we didn’t find one voter who believed the Washington Post report about Moore,” she said.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/11/10/alabama-abc-affiliate-cant-find-one-voter-believes-wapo-report-roy-moore-man-street-segment/

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posted November 11, 2017 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear JWH,
Who said 30 women accused him of molestation? 4 women accused him, and these have not been accusations of rape but of molestation of children and attempts to seduce children, plus drinking with a minor. Plus picking up a minor girl without consent of parents.

And where has he denied meeting or associating with the main victim when she was 14? On Twitter, he has been accusing Obama and Clinton!

I am sure he will get voted, even if he confesses to wrong doing because the "Base" has no Character Standards. Hey, as long as it is not their daughter, the Base is cool. I assure you, supporting such creeps will hasten the deterioration of American Institutions just as we are seeing in India where even more sinister and criminal elements have been voted to power just because the Right Wing "Base" of India wants to kill Christians and Muslims without repercussions.
Nearly every Institution has been subverted since then. We have a Cabinet Minister who says Smog filled Air is ok because it does not kill. Another says girls have to be married off at 8-10.
Yet another says Cows exhale Oxygen.
And one Chief Minister now says its ok to rape corpses as long as they are of minorities. All this while looting taxpayers.

You guys have time to fix your Institutions from being hijacked, God has been Kinder to USA. If you choose more and more creeps like Roy Moore to higher offices, its game over for the next generation. These creeps are ok with belittling Gays/Lesbians, ok with molestation of children etc. How do you even consider them for public office? What value can they add to Americans?

Very simple Test. Imagine instead of Roy Moore being a White Republican, imagine he was a Black Democrat. Same white girl accuses the same thing, and same article comes in WaPo, and Black Democrat Roy Moore wants to stand for office. Would you take his side as "Innocent until proven Guilty". Try to be 100% Honest with your Conscience and think.

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posted November 11, 2017 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course if the accused is named Clinton we call for their locking up despite no trial ever having been even close to happening.. because the evidence just seems to hide somewhere after years of probes and slander..

Moore has not denied, he has attempted to rationalize by comparing himself and his "dates" to Joseph and Mary.

And as to the voters reactions that depends who you ask as usual. Breitbarf wouldn't admit it if it were a total rout.. other polls say his large lead in the race has vanished overnight.

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posted November 11, 2017 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's denied it. I don't know what crackerjack news y'all are watching.

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posted November 11, 2017 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't say 30 women have accused Roy Moore.
I'm asking you for the....30 different sources to the allegations which you say..have been meticulously researched

I repeat:
This would be a very good place to list them all. Go for it!

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posted November 11, 2017 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Roy Moore never denied??

You keep stepping up to the plate and striking out!

GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore denies allegation of sexual misconduct years ago with 14-year-old girl
Adam Kelsey and John Verhover
Nov 10, 2017

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-senate-candidate-roy-moore-denies-a llegation-sexual/story?id=51046527

Roy Moore Denies Teen Sex Abuse Allegations in Interview With Hannity: ‘It Never Happened’
Joe DePaolo
November 10th, 2017

http://www.mediaite.com/online/roy-moore-denies-teen-se x-abuse-allegations-in-interview-with-hannity-it-never-happened/


Senate Candidate Roy Moore Denies Misconduct Allegations
November 10, 2017
Debbie Elliot

http://www.npr.org/2017/11/10/563239970/senate-candidate-roy-moore-denies-misc onduct-allegations

Kathryn Watson
CBS News
November 10, 2017
Roy Moore, Alabama Senate candidate, denies inappropriate relationships with teens

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/roy-moore-alabama-senate-candidate-de nies-inappropriate-relationships-with-teens/

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posted November 11, 2017 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://verifiedpolitics.com/roy-moore-just-went-hannitys-radio-show-made-sex-scandal-infinitely-worse/

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posted November 11, 2017 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Point 1:
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Sean Hannity: Have you ever dated girls as young as 16?
Roy Moore: “I don't dispute that."

Point 2:
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He did not dispute dating 16 year old girls in his 30s

Point 3:
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Admitted that the moms of the children asked them to be friends with him

Point 4:
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Did not deny meeting with the 14 year old victim. Denied serving her alcohol and denied sexual misconduct.

Point 5:
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Has not yet filed a lawsuit against the victim for blatant lies that besmirch his character.
Is yet to file a multi million dollar lawsuit against Washington Post. He can easily win if he never dated underaged girls.

Point 6:
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His friend Ziegler's comment: "There's just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual". Does not seem like denial from his friend.


Other Points: He wants homosexuality to be made illegal, in the 21st century.
And He is against Transgender Rights as well.

Seriously, why would any Political Party want to associate with the likes of Roy Moore? What value does he add to the growth of GOP or American Economy or Human Development ?

And would Right Wing have been so stubbornly defending his rights had he been a Black Democrat?


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posted November 11, 2017 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sean Hannity: Have you ever dated girls as young as 16?
Roy Moore: “I don't dispute that."

That's not a crime...if it occurred.

Point 2:
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He did not dispute dating 16 year old girls in his 30s

That's not a crime...if it occurred.

Point 3:
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Admitted that the moms of the children asked them to be friends with him

That's not a crime...if it occurred.

Point 4:
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Did not deny meeting with the 14 year old victim. Denied serving her alcohol and denied sexual misconduct.

MOORE: “It never happened". Further, that's a dry county in which no alcohol was served.

Point 5:
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Has not yet filed a lawsuit against the victim for blatant lies that besmirch his character.
Is yet to file a multi million dollar lawsuit against Washington Post. He can easily win if he never dated underaged girls.

Hahaha, what a nothing argument. The allegations are days old. Any lawsuit will be well researched as well as allegations which lead to a lawsuit.

Point 6:
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His friend Ziegler's comment: "There's just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual". Does not seem like denial from his friend.

Nothing to deny. there's no truth to the illegal allegation and with the other 2 women, no allegations of illegality have been made.

You're still striking out. Perhaps you should bench yourself.


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posted November 12, 2017 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now things getting ugly.
Right Wing groups supportive of Roy Moore put the victim's picture and address
on Twitter and called for her to be attacked at work or home.
She could be killed off soon by some deplorable. All because she spoke out against her abuser. This proves why she was silent for years so that her children were not targeted by powerful Roy.

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posted November 12, 2017 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Now things getting ugly.
Right Wing groups supportive of Roy Moore put the victim's picture and address
on Twitter and called for her to be attacked at work or home.
She could be killed off soon by some deplorable. All because she spoke out against her abuser. This proves why she was silent for years so that her children were not targeted by powerful Roy.

Unsubstantiated blither, blather and bloviation? Or, do you have an actual link to an article to substantiate what you said? Oh, and by the way, which so called accuser are you talking about?

Oh, and by the way, where are the thirty meticulously researched sources for your former comment. That's right, those thirty meticulously researched sources I already asked you for.

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posted November 12, 2017 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chillax JWHOp, just join Twitter and check for "Jack Posobiec". He started the "Doxxing" process.
100s of concerned US citizens complained to Twitter to shut down the threat to harm Roy More's victim. The culprit modified his account to private to escape being banned for life but he could be organizing more attacks at the moment.

Meanwhile, WaPo has not released the 30 sources names. We just know that 30 sources exists along with the 4 named sources. I am sure they will testify once a defamation case comes up against Roy Moore. This will get very interesting as once a lega process starts, 100s more will tetify that Moore was a predator in his 30s.

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posted November 13, 2017 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
#RoyMoorePickUpLines
is trending on Twitter.

Yashar Ali got 2000 women to open up
about their abuse anonymously.
I have written to him about a process to explore legal action against the abusers in a way that prevents their identity against doxxing online.

Good Americans will prevail against pedos
And abusers even if they become powerful. Society has had enough of exploitation.

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posted November 13, 2017 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*I* said thirty woman had accused him. I misread, after reading something about the four women. *I* can admit to a mistake.

That doesn't take away from the fact that he molested this one girl, and dated others eighteen and under. SOME of you republicans are the worst - and of course, if he denies it, then he's telling the truth. When a Democrat denies, they're lying (according to you).

I feel sick. Making excuses for sexual predators, just because they're republicans.

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posted November 13, 2017 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"That doesn't take away from the fact that he molested this one girl"

Allegation is not FACT.

"Meanwhile, WaPo has not released the 30 sources names. We just know that 30 sources exists along with the 4 named sources. I am sure they will testify once a defamation case comes up against Roy Moore"

So, your 30 meticulously researched sources exist only in the brain dead imaginations of Fake News Washington Compost leftists. Thought so!

BTW, it looks like you're going to get your wish!

Judge Roy Moore Announces Plans to Sue Washington Post
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/12/exclusive-judge-roy-moore-announces-plans-sue-washington-post/

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posted November 13, 2017 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a good case for defamation.

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posted November 13, 2017 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As the article points out, Moore himself knew there was more to come. He predicyed it on Hannity...What a coincidence
http://verifiedpolitics.com/new-accuser-just-revealed-roy-moore-sexually-assaulted-mi nor/

Do you think Cosby has a defamation case too, Randall? How about Harvey W?

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posted November 13, 2017 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would the lawyer in the room care to comment on this opinion? Is there any scenario in which sodimizing a 4 yr old is defensible against charges of forcible rape?

How would you define "family values", anyway?
http://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/roy-moore-cast-the-sole-vote- in-favor-of-a-man-who-raped-a-four-year-old/

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posted November 13, 2017 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent move by Roy to sue WaPo.
Everything that has to come out can now come out, and justice will be done.

And Kudos to GOP Leader Mitch. He joins Mitt in the Ark of Saved Souls by opposing the predator who did not convict a child rapist by using lame excuses.

Moore's Logic: "Because there was no evidence in this case of an implied threat of serious physical injury…or of an implied threat of death, Higdon cannot be convicted of sodomy in the first degree 'by forcible compulsion.' "

Should GOP support such a man just because he supports Trump or opposes Liberals?


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