posted November 20, 2017 09:08 AM            

Prominent feminist lawyer Gloria Allred is under investigation by two bar associations for alleged misconduct stemming from a case she handled for a D.C. weatherman who sued CBS for discrimination, LawNewz reported Monday.

The California Bar and Washington, D.C. Bar have open cases against Allred, who is famous for taking controversial celebrity cases and is representing a woman who has accused President Donald Trump of sexually harassing and assaulting her years ago.

posted November 20, 2017 02:52 PM            

W/out having looked at Gloria allred's other case, i know she isn't enacting any laws now, nor is she going to any time soon, so she's not in any position to harm large chunks of the US population.

But roy moore is, has, and would.

The best indication of future behavior is repetitive past behavior...in his case, repetitive bigotry, homophibia, out-and-out racism (he doesn't even try to hide it), religious fanaticism, and allegations of pedophilia and sex assault by NINE WOMEN...and very possibly more than nine, as he fits the profile of a pedophile with multiple victims. Allred has only this one case out of possibly 100s she's handled so far.

Can't compare apples to oranges so let's not obfuscate the real issue...ROY MOORE

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posted November 20, 2017 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:

You are again politicizing the rape issue. I don't care who else they endorsed, what is important is that they're withdrawimg support for someone who has an overwhelming corroborating evidence of being a pedophile right now in this race, and that they're doing it for the right reasons.

I wld have applauded them had they endorsed another republican candidate who didn't have roy moore's history. iQ also said the same thing...that it wld be better for the republicans to select another candidate rather than give more power to roy moore. If another worthy republican had won the race, it wld have been Aok w/ me. Alabama has always been a red state and wld have continued to be red w/ another republican senator. That was never an issue w/ me. My issue is w/ roy moore, who doesn't respect anyone other than straight white evangelical christian males, bc of which he considers it ok to abuse women and children.

The whole point is to take away power from people who abuse it. Power has been taken away from harvey weinstein, bill o'reilly, roger ailes, kevin spacey, etc. These men have been publicly shamed, their jobs have been taken away from them, so they can no longer harm women and children. At the end of the day THAT'S what's important!

Is that not more important to you than your party affiliation?

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Randall?

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posted November 20, 2017 04:11 PM            

"STAND FOR DECENCY, REJECT ROY MOORE"

Doing the right and decent thing means standing up to corruption and dishonesty...including the roy moore kind of corruption and dishonesty

posted November 20, 2017 10:33 PM            

https://www.today.com/news/roy-moore-accuser-leigh-corfman-shares-why-she-went-public-t119062

posted November 20, 2017 11:06 PM            

“I don’t know how much these women are getting paid, but I can only believe they’re getting a healthy sum,” said pastor Earl Wise, a Moore supporter from Millbrook, Ala.

Wise said he would support Moore even if the allegations were true and the candidate was proved to have sexually molested teenage girls and women.

“There ought to be a statute of limitations on this stuff,” Wise said. “How these gals came up with this, I don’t know. They must have had some sweet dreams somewhere down the line.

“Plus,” he added, “there are some 14-year-olds, who, the way they look, could pass for 20.”

posted November 20, 2017 11:39 PM            

A high school classmate of Nelson’s who spoke to Breitbart News remembers DeVine and Nelson briefly dating around 1977. DeVine also provided a copy of his high school yearbook inscribed with a lengthy message by Nelson. The inscription was signed by “Beverly Young,” using Nelson’s maiden name.

posted November 21, 2017 12:39 AM            

Bannon's ultimate nightmare -
Watching Roy Moore slowly fade away into Roy Less, lol

posted November 21, 2017 09:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I think you're missing the point. If people on the left will make up a mall story and forge a document, they might also go as far as to buy some accusers.

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posted November 21, 2017 11:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
At least two lies have been uncovered to have been manufactured against Moore. Why lie if any of this occurred?

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posted November 21, 2017 12:59 PM            

Overwhelming corroborating evidence?

You mean, like that fraudulent note and signature in that Year Book? You mean the overwhelming evidence the ambulance chaser Gloria All-Red won't turn over for examination to independent authenticators because she knows the signature is forged?

posted November 21, 2017 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Looks like steve bannon is getting desperate if all he's got is the word of an [b]ex boyfriend (there's a reason he's ex, isn't there?), and that of a step son who wasn't even born when beverly was molested, yet is comfortable saying she's 100% lying. Really? Is it possible to be 100% sure of a non-event...of something that, acc to him, didn't happen?? Sounds like the step son has an axe to grind along w/ the ex boyfriend.

Bannon's ultimate nightmare -
Watching Roy Moore slowly fade away into Roy Less, lol

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@randall

I think you're missing the point of what i said above (and i also think you learned nothing from the rape thread i started a couple of years ago in which you yourself posted statistics).

False allegations of rape are very rare despite what you may think.

What you're doing is exactly why rape victims don't come fwd to complain...bc society doesn't believe them, they know that society will expect them to show proof of a crime that, most of the time, can have no material proof. The burden of proof is always on the rape victim. Why??

If someone were to go to the police to complain abt burglary, do you think the complainer wld be subjected to the same scrutiny and asked to show beyond reasonable doubt that smth was taken from him/her? No. The police wld, for the most part, just register the complaint.

Then why are the same standards not applied to a complaint of rape?

Whenever a rape victim complains, the world's immediate suspicion turns on the victim. Considering that there are so few false allegations of rape, and there are very few (if any) falsely accused men sitting in prison...and those are definitely not white men...why does the standard for handling rape by society immediately change when it comes to rape?

When the immediate reaction of the world towards a rape victim is disbelief, and the rape victims are automatically under scrutiny and suspicion by the bias of society...then why wld bannon have to resort to publishing an ex boyfriend and a stepson's version...people that i wldn't believe even in a non rape case if their story differed from a non rape victim. Even in a non rape case, i wld immediately think that the ex and stepson have an axe to grind. This was my point above.

And this is why i said that bannon is getting desperate.

Bc it's ridiculous to believe the word of a stepson and an exboyfriend (if their story is different in a non rape case), much less in a rape case.

When i have time i will post an article to help you understand your bias against rape victims...a bias that is the same as the rest of society's and one that you're unable to, atm, pinpoint within yourself.

Re: the year book signature, beverly is not lying abt that either, will explain later

posted November 21, 2017 01:22 PM            

Okay, let me make you cry then..

Answer the question below -

Don't forget what's at stake...

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:

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Take a deep breath...

Now, use your frontal lobe...the one that allows us to reason and distinguishes us from the rest of the animal kingdom...

There yet?

Okay, now [b]answer this question...

Hey einstein, a crime in which the perp uses as weapons...a twisted, perverted, lewd, and predatory mind...plus eyes, hands, and genitals...what evidence do you want???

Let me re-phrase it to help you...

Hey einstein, aka closet leftist lunatic, a crime in which the perp uses as weapons...a twisted, perverted, lewd, and predatory mind...plus eyes, hands, and penis...what evidence do you want???

Last chance, if you cannot answer this question coherently, you concede superiority

Take your time, this one's important...

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posted November 21, 2017 01:52 PM            

Watch roy moore himself corroborate the fact that he lusted aftr teenagers...there's an interview in the link

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/11/you_don't_have_to_believe_the_w.html

"For some it is too much to ask to believe the women. No matter what, they will choose to believe Roy Moore.

Belief perseverance is a powerful thing and a phenomenon observed in psychology. Once someone has taken a particular position or accepted one point of view, contrary evidence doesn't matter.

We're seeing it right now, with Moore and his faithful followers.

It doesn't matter how well Moore's first accuser, Leigh Corfman, presented herself on the Today Show. To them, she's a liar looking for fame and fortune.

It doesn't matter whether Beverly Young Nelson kept the receipts, or in this case, her high school yearbook. To them, it's an obvious forgery.

It doesn't matter how many other women come forward to say Moore solicited them too. It doesn't matter how many family members and friends of these women step out to say that they knew about this at the time, nor how many people say Moore was a known mall creeper they kept away from, even if they had to hide.

It doesn't seem to matter that, in our justice system, testimony is considered evidence, just as much as DNA. No matter how many come forward, it won't be convincing enough.

But I urge those folks who still don't believe to listen to the words.

But not hers. Or hers. Or theirs.

Listen to his.

Specifically Moore's account of how he met his now-wife, Kayla Moore.

First, read his book. In it, Moore describes how he met his wife at a Christmas party hosted by friends. He would have been 37. She was 23.

"Many years before, I had attended a dance recital at Gadsden State Junior College," Moore wrote. "I remembered one of the special dances performed by a young woman whose first and last names began with the letter 'K.' It was something I had never forgotten. Could that young woman have been Kayla Kisor?"

Moore later determined that it was.

"Long afterward, I would learn that Kayla had, in fact, performed a special dance routine at Gadsden State years before," he wrote.

Take a second to think about what's being said here. Moore first took notice of Kayla at a dance recital?

Perhaps you're wondering what "many years" means, and I wondered that too. Luckily, Moore again has cleared that up for us.

In an interview Moore gave earlier this year, he gave a similar account, but for one detail.

"It was, oh gosh, eight years later, or something, I met her," Moore said. "And when she told me her name, I remembered 'K. K.,' and I said, 'Haven't I met you before?'"

It's a simple matter of subtraction. When Roy Moore first took notice of Kayla she would have been as young as 15.

There's a little fuzziness, to be sure, in the timeline. There's the "or something" Moore fudges with in the interview. Eight years before could have been slightly too early to put Moore in Gadsden, he started work as an deputy district attorney there in 1977.

So maybe she was 15, or maybe she was 16. But still, here is a grown man at about 30 years old attending a girls' dance recital, and doing what exactly?

This would have been 1976 or 1977. (My best guess is the latter.)

It was in 1977, Wendy Miller says, when Moore first approached her at the Gadsden Mall, where she was working as a Santa's helper. She was 14 at the time.

It was in 1977, Beverly Young Nelson says, when Moore assaulted her behind the Old Hickory House restaurant, where she worked as a waitress. She was 16 at the time.

It was in 1977, Gina Richardson says, when Moore called her at her high school to ask her on a date, a date in which she says he forcefully kissed and left her scared of him. She was 18 at the time.

Is it too much to believe that Roy Moore wasn't praying for women then but preying on women?

Is it too much to believe these women?

If so, then you don't have to. You just have to believe Roy Moore."

posted November 21, 2017 02:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
At least two lies have been uncovered to have been manufactured against Moore. Why lie if any of this occurred?

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You're making comments without doing your research. For each of these "two lies" there are several friends and family of the victims who have come forward to say that they were told abt what happened by the victims back then.

Did you not watch leigh corfman's interview on the Today show? I posted the link above

What makes the stepson and exboyfriend's stories more believable to you than beverly's??

Watch leigh corfman say in her own words exactly why she didn't speak abt it before even though close people around her knew what roy moore had done to her.

I can't keep spoonfeeding you w/ information...if you want to know more, you've got to do some basic legwork yourself. Otherwise what are you basing your decision on...the decision of whom to believe?

posted November 21, 2017 02:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I think you're missing the point. If people on the left will make up a mall story and forge a document, they might also go as far as to buy some accusers.

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"If people on the left will make up..."

this right here is your bias. You cannot seem to be able to step outside of the "left" or "right" sides and view rape as a culture issue instead of a partisan issue.

It is this bias that has made you already decide that the rape/sex assault victims of roy moore are lying...all 9 of them.

You're unable to see this case objectively w/out bringing "left" or "right" into it. Because you've pre-decided the victims are lying (n/m that 9 is a large number of complaints)...it is clear that for you party affiliation takes priority over the issue of rape and sex assault

This means that you subscribe to the same notion as roy moore's supporters...rape and sex assault be damned we wld support him rather than give victory to the democrats.

Do you realize how dangerous this type of thinking is? Do you realize that this highlights your inability to think impartially? Particularly as you're on your way to becoming a lawyer?

posted November 21, 2017 03:15 PM            

Do you think that an entire hometown, roy moore's own hometown where he presumably has maximum influence, is wrong when they say it was an open secret that he hung around the town mall to pick up teenage girls? Do you think an entire town (including a security guard who worked at the mall), was politically motivated to go against roy moore...

but beverly's stepson and exboyfriend are telling the truth???

Have you read the article above? Did you watch his interview where he himself says he 1st noticed his future wife when she was 15? Don't his own words support the "mall story" as you call it?