posted December 10, 2017 04:31 AM            

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No, he's been tried in the court of public opinion in Alabama. And Alabama voters are the jury that will decide his fate on Tuesday.

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posted December 10, 2017 11:10 AM            

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/roy_moore_leigh_corfman_accuse.html

"In an impassioned letter released exclusively today to AL.com, Leigh Corfman, who accused Roy Moore of undressing her when she was 14 and he was 32, demanded the Republican Senate candidate stop calling her a liar, and attacking her character and end his "smears and false denials."

AL.com received a copy of the letter in person from Corfman. She declined to comment beyond what was contained in the letter.

...Corfman decided to write the open letter after hearing Moore's own remarks last night at a rally in Henagar, his first public appearance in nearly two weeks.

Moore on Monday gave no new insight on the allegations that have hounded his campaign for the past 21/2 weeks, saying again the accusations he made unwanted romantic or sexual advances on teenage girls almost 40 years ago are "completely false."

"I don't know any of (the women)," he said.

Corfman has said that when she was 14 Moore, who was a 32-year-old assistant district attorney, took her to his home where he removed her clothes and touched her over her bra and underwear. He was wearing his underwear at the time, Corfman said.

Here is the letter in its entirety: 

Mr. Moore,

When the Washington Post approached me about what you did to me as a child, I told them what happened, just as I had told family and friends years before. I stand by every word.

You responded by denying the truth. You told the world that you didn't even know me. Others in recent days have had the decency to acknowledge their hurtful actions and apologize for similar behavior, but not you.

So I gave an interview on television so that people could judge for themselves whether I was telling the truth.

You sent out your spokesmen to call me a liar. Day after day.

Finally, last night, you did the dirty work yourself. You called me malicious, and you questioned my motivation in going public.

I explained my motivation on the Today show. I said that this is not political for me, this is personal. As a 14-year old, I did not deserve to have you, a 32-year old, prey on me. I sat quietly for too long, out of concern for my family. No more.

I am not getting paid for speaking up. I am not getting rewarded from your political opponents. What I am getting is stronger by refusing to blame myself and speaking the truth out loud.

The initial barrage of attacks against me voiced by your campaign spokespersons and others seemed petty so I did not respond.

But when you personally denounced me last night and called me slanderous names, I decided that I am done being silent. What you did to me when I was 14-years old should be revolting to every person of good morals. But now you are attacking my honesty and integrity. Where does your immorality end?

I demand that you stop calling me a liar and attacking my character. Your smears and false denials, and those of others who repeat and embellish them, are defamatory and damaging to me and my family.

I am telling the truth, and you should have the decency to admit it and apologize.

Leigh Corfman"

The link carries her photo as she is now...a regular mom. Any doubts, randall? Still think this is a false allegation to smear your candidate?

Have you seen the faces of any of roy moore's victims?

posted December 10, 2017 11:37 AM            

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A felon can't vote,...

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Wrong. In alabama they can and are...on dec 12

posted December 10, 2017 12:04 PM            

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The author of this article is no fan of Moore's, but he explains how Moore did not rule in favor of a child rapist as you alleged.
http://www.slate.com/articles/ne ws_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/11/it_s_wrong_to_attack_roy_moore_for_his_dissent_in_a_child_rape_case.html

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Finally got around to reading the article you posted. Nowhere does the author say that roy moore did not rule in favor of the rapist.

All the author does is explain why roy moore's was the only dissenting vote among 9 judges, and that by dissenting moore wasn't breaking the law but was following it to the hilt.

The author of the article goes on to speculate that the reason roy moore voted in favor of the rapist is bc roy moore was attempting to put pressure on the judicial system so that the portion of the rape law dealing w/ the definition of "forcible compulsion" cld change

Really??

How can the author of the article get inside roy moore's head to speculate why moore voted in dissent?

I also find it strange that, having defied the law before, for which he was defrocked twice, moore shld choose a rape/sodomy of a child case to decide to strictly adhere to the law.

Doesn't it make you wonder why his sympathy lay w/ the rapist instead of the child? Especially when 8 other judges had no sympathy for the convicted rapist?

And cldn't he find another way to make changes to the law? He was after all, a supreme court judge

And btw, it was not i who "alleged" that moore voted in favor of a child rapist. It's all over the internet...taken straight from alabama law records. And it is not stated as an allegation but a fact

posted December 10, 2017 12:45 PM            

Here is roy moore's gem like history on his rulings in other rape cases

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/14/roy-moore-alabama-law-rape-victims-judge

Roy Moore challenged Alabama law that protects rape victims, documents reveal

"Roy Moore challenged the scope of an Alabama law that protects rape victims while serving as the most senior judge on the state’s highest court, according to a review of records.

As chief justice of Alabama’s supreme court, Moore twice argued that the state’s “rape shield” law should not prevent alleged sex offenders from using certain evidence about their underage accusers’ personal lives to discredit them.

Moore was chief justice of Alabama’s supreme court from January 2013 until May 2016, when he was suspended for instructing judges in the state to continue enforcing Alabama’s ban on same-sex marriage even after it was ruled unconstitutional. He had previously held the same job between 2001 and 2003.

A review by the Guardian of all decisions issued by the Alabama supreme court during Moore’s second stint found decisions on 16 criminal cases that involved alleged sexual crime. Moore sided with the offender over state prosecutors in 13 of those cases.

On 10 occasions, this meant dissenting from the majority view of the court’s nine judges. Moore sided with the state in the other three cases.

Among Moore’s 10 dissents was the case of David Pittman, who had pleaded guilty to the rape of a 12-year-old girl. Moore in September 2015 said that Pittman ought to have been allowed to present evidence to court indicating that the girl had been sexually active and had a sexually transmitted disease.

“I believe this evidence could be relevant to the complaining witness’s alleged motive in accusing Pittman and that it is not barred by … the rape-shield rule,” Moore wrote in his dissent.

Like other states, Alabama has a law generally barring defendants accused of sexual assaults from using evidence relating to their accuser’s sexual history. Alabama’s law includes an exception that says evidence can be used if “excluding it would violate the defendant’s constitutional rights”. Moore argued that Pittman was being denied his right to be confronted by any witnesses testifying against him.

The rape-shield law also arose in the case of Sherman Tate, a school mentor who was convicted of coercing two 15-year-old female students to touch him sexually. Moore argued in June 2014 that attorneys for Tate should have been allowed to tell jurors that he believed the girls were bisexual and in a relationship together.

Moore said evidence of a relationship between the teenage girls “could be relevant to the victims’ alleged bias against Tate or their collusion” and that this should not be barred by the state’s rape-shield rules.

He argued in his dissent that while the rape-shield law bars discussion of an alleged victim’s sexual history with other people, it “does not bar cross-examination regarding a victim’s romantic relationship or even sexual behavior with another complaining victim”.

An appeals court had already described Tate’s theory about his accusers’ sexual arrangements as “at best, speculative” and said it would have “confused the jury by diverting its attention to issues that were not germane to this trial”.

In both the Pittman and Tate cases, two other judges dissented from the court’s decision but did not specify whether they agreed with Moore’s reasoning.

Spokespeople for Moore had not responded to requests for comment by time of publication."

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Does this leave any doubt in your mind abt roy moore's history of sympathy towards rapists rather than the children who had been raped?

Do his own rulings on sex assault cases not shine a bright light on his serious psychopathology involving pedophilia?

And he is the candidate you want shld win so that your party can maintain its majority???

Wow!! Has the party sunk this low?

When we're busy lowering our standards for others, we're certainly not raising them for ourselves

posted December 10, 2017 12:49 PM            

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No, he's been tried in the court of public opinion in Alabama. And Alabama voters are the jury that will decide his fate on Tuesday.

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posted December 10, 2017 12:55 PM            

Jwhop keeps chiding those who think Moore should step down.. because innocent till proven guilty. Randall thinks the polls stand in for a court off law!

Perhaps it's a good thing felons can vote in Alabama. They have a reputation for intolerance of rapists and child abusers.. and a tendency not to be fond of DA's

Honestly.. the fact that one is legally innocent till proven guilty does not mean that denying charges makes you suitable to govern. It just makes it possible for those desperate fir the power of despots to look the other easy and encourage their constituents to vote for anyone regardless of doubts.. because someone needs to make a score in the legislature before the year is out!!

Don Wan .. poor poppet, who would be him? So desperate for approval and admiration and to go down in history as "THE BEST in every category" that he willingly works with ANYone who bolsters up that ambition.

posted December 10, 2017 01:08 PM            

Feeling sorry for all the leftist loons who don't understand that in America,...IT IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

Only in the little leftists bubble world of unreality...and banana republics are the accused guilty upon accusation.

I understand the reason leftist lunatics have charged and continue to charge Moore with sexual assault without the use of the word "ALLEGED". They think they're going to steal a US Senate Seat in Alabama.

posted December 10, 2017 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The FBI says that 8% of sexual assault allegations are comparable with other felonies and are false. That's hardly what I would call rare. This can be expected to be even higher among those with political motives.

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The 8% is very misleading. The FBI gets its stats from local law enforcement agencies. Local police agencies are dominated by men, who, aftr interviewing rape victims log complaints based on whether or not they think the victim was credible. Abt 80% of male police officers straightaway do not believe rape victims and complaints are logged accordingly.

The other factor that cannot be ignored is that there's a pattern of a certain type of person who lodges a false allegation of rape. This pattern usually involves prior history of drug abuse and other criminal behavior. Such a history does not apply to any of moore's victims

Furthermore, in some cases of false rape allegations, usually a teen is caught by a parent having consensual sex w/ a boyfriend and alleges rape to escape the wrath of the parent. In these cases it's always the parent who lodges a complaint w/ the local police. This has also not been true in any of the cases of roy moore's victims.

posted December 10, 2017 01:55 PM            

DISPELLING THE MYTH OF THE GIRL WHO CRIED RAPE

https://studybreaks.com/2017/08/25/false-rape-accusation-dispelling-myth/

"No crime seems to cause as much of a controversial reaction as a rape case. Unlike other crimes, it seems like the knee jerk reaction is to accuse the victim of lying. “Crying rape,” which refers to women allegedly falsifying a rape charge, is a term commonly tossed around. Victims of any other crime, attempted murder, kidnapping, arson, burglary etc., aren’t met with this mouth-frothing suspicion and rage, so why rape victims?

The sentiment of disbelief toward rape victims has been around for hundreds of years, but has risen to a fever pitch in recent years. Just look at the vicious skepticism any victim in a high-profile case received, from the Steubenville case to Woody Allen’s daughter. Over fifty women in the past ten years have come forward with the same story of rape or sexual assault at the hands of Bill Cosby, yet the public continued to ignore them until Cosby himself finally admitted it.

A growing concern is that men need to be worried about false accusations. Paranoia about widespread fake rape charges is not limited to men’s rights activists (MRA) fringe groups bored with sending death threats, but is actually quite common within the general public. A 2011 study shows that 40.2 percent of the surveyed felt rape accusations were often false. The unmerited suspicion of false charges unfairly clouds judgment within law enforcement, legal systems and the public eye. The reality is that false rape charges account for a very small percentage of all rape charges, and that number itself is often considered unreliable due to bias.

LET'S LOOK AT THE NUMBERS

Despite the idea that falsified rape charges are prevalent, there is very little statistical evidence to support the claim of common fraudulent accusations.

Getting straightforward evidence pointing toward a single number is difficult. Given that many of the studies done on false rapes have employed subjective research methods or failed to base data off of actual investigations, finding accurate numbers includes wading through the outliers.

However, compiling the methodically sound, credible sources suggests that percentages of false estimates converge around the 2-8 percent mark, worldwide. The “Making A Difference Project” conducted a large-scale study, lauded for its precautions taken to protect the validity and reliability of its research, and found 7 percent of the 2,059 cases evaluated to be false. The most vigorous and largest study, done by the British Home Office and spanning 2,643 cases, found 2.5 percent of cases to be false.  Researchers at the University of Massachusetts say 5.6 percent. An Australian study released in 2006 recorded a 2.1 percent false reporting rate. In 2007, an EVAWI project reported 6.8 percent.

A few studies, on the other hand, present staggeringly high numbers. For example, Professor Eugene Kanin’s 1994 study suggests that 41 percent of the rape charges made in his study were false. Police Surgeon N.M. Maclean performed a study in 1979 that found 49 percent false allegations. The percentage shoots up to 90 percent in C.H Stewart’s 1981 “A Retrospective Survey of Alleged Sexual Assault Cases.” However, all of these figures have been thoroughly debunked. In Kanin’s study, detectives, not evidence-based investigation, decided whether victims’ claims were false. Maclean employs questionable criteria for finding false cases, such as a victim not looking sufficiently disheveled. A scintillating gem from Stewart’s survey is “It was totally impossible to have removed her extremely tight undergarments from her extremely large body against her will.”

Many statistics used to justify high percentages of false rape accusations are from subjective, non-systematic research, namely the personal opinions of law enforcement officers or researchers. These studies don’t base their findings off of cases that have undergone investigation, but from judgments of detectives or officers. No jury verdict was delivered, but the victims were deemed liars all the same.

Controlling for subjective variables, such as personal judgments of victims based on mental illness, inconsistent statements or drinking, results in significantly fewer false accusations. For example, the previously mentioned British Home Office study originally found 8 percent of the accusations to be false. After controlling for the personal judgments of police officers, and using official criteria for a false allegation, the number shrunk to 2.5 percent.

UNDER INVESTIGATION

Even though there isn’t statistical evidence to substantiate the idea of widespread false rape charges, some people still believe it’s a very prominent problem. We have an automatic attitude of disbelief toward rape victims that directly affects investigations and trials. For example, a New Zealand study shows that police viewed 86 percentof women reporting a rape with suspicion. Victims are preemptively met with excessively hostile skepticism.

Why does this happen? We, as a society, have preconceived notions of what “real” rape is. When a case lacks the factors we associate with rape, we see it as impossible.

What are some signs of a “real” rape?

- Victim and suspect are strangers
- Physical violence/a weapon are involved
- Evident signs of a struggle/physical injury
- Victim is hysterical and immediately reports the crime
- Victim is absolutely certain about every detail of their testimony
- Victim doesn’t alter their account of the attack
- Victim behaves appropriately traumatized when recalling attack

However, these factors don’t necessarily apply for many rape cases.

According to The National Center for the Prosecution of Violence, most prosecutors say their cases usually have the following factors, known as “red flags,” which make people more skeptical of the case’s legitimacy. When a case has red flags, victims have difficulty telling a credible story, because they must overcome jurors’ expectations, not just meet them.

- Rape is committed by someone known to the victim
- Most victims don’t physically resist
- No signs of physical injury
- Victim does not immediately report to the police
- Victim is not hysterical when recounting attack
- Victims fail to give a linear account, focus on sensory detail
- Victim omits or exaggerates part of their account
- Victim displays erratic behavior
- The suspect doesn’t fit the stereotype of a rapist
- Expectations vs. Reality

One of the effects of red flags is seen with the jurors at a case from St. John’s University, who found the victim’s claim implausible because her behavior “just didn’t coincide with what we felt a victim should behave like.”

Regarding relationships, rape is most often not a stranger violently attacking a victim in dark alley. A study by the Medical University of South Carolina found that 78 percent of the 4,008 rapes and sexual assaults were committed by someone the victim knew. When it comes to injuries, judges and jurors tend to view severe physical damage as proof of a lack of consent by the victim. However, only 5 percent of victims experience serious physical injuries.

Two other common red flags, when a victim is unable to give a chronological account or alters/omits elements of their attack, are typically used to assert that the claim is false. After all, if they gave inconsistent information about their attack or can’t remember the precise sequence of events, they must be lying, right?

Victims give inconsistent, incomplete or omitted information for numerous reasons. Neurobiology explains what happens. Often, when a victim experiences sexual assault, the pre-frontal cortex, principal in memory and decision making, can be temporarily impaired. The amygdala, which encodes emotional experiences, takes control, recording specific fragments of sensory information. According to clinical psychologist David Lisak, this is why many victims can only recall visceral sensory details, such as the sound of a voice, but can’t give a linear account.

In addition, many victims don’t immediately report an attack, also for a myriad of reasons. A wide range of factors, such as not knowing it was legally rape, using denial and suppression as a coping tactic or fearing that they will be disbelieved and blamed, all influence a victim’s willingness to report. Victims may change or omit elements of their attack, for example, to protect the perpetrator out of fear of retaliation or due to financial dependency. Even more commonly, victims are aware that their rape will only be taken seriously if it seems “real” enough. Victims may lie about drug or alcohol use, their relationship with the perpetrator or their past sexual history to sound like a more believable case.

It’s incredibly important to remember that incomplete or inconsistent information cannot be confused with a false report. A false report requires investigative proof that the crime never happened. Red flags damage the credibility of the victim in the eyes of others, but can’t be used to claim assault never occurred.

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY

“So, does this mean that we have to assume the defendant committed the crime? The law books don’t say ‘guilty until proven innocent!’”

A common misconception in the U.S. legal system, especially regarding rape cases, is that to presume innocence on the defendant’s part requires assuming that the accuser is lying.

In stranger rape cases, the defense can argue that the complainant failed to pick the correct attacker, but in acquaintance rape cases, this misconception surrounding innocence cripples the mind of the jury because, generally, no such assumption can be made.

Therefore, the defense will likely argue that the alleged victim has offered false testimony. In order for jurors to keep up the “innocent until proven guilty” line of thinking, they often assume that the complainant is lying. When jurors feel that they must adopt an attitude of incredulity and skepticism toward the prosecution’s evidence, it will cause them to have a hostile and suspicious view of the complaining witness.

In reality, all the presumption of innocence means is that jurors must choose a not guilty verdict if the prosecution can’t provide sufficient evidence of a defendant’s guilt beyond a doubt. It does not mean that the accuser must be proven honest beyond a doubt.

WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE US?

Rape cases put the burden of proving innocence on the victim. For no other crime are victims treated with such suspicion and skepticism. The false reporting rates for every other crime are the same, yet the news has yet to be filled with headlines about people calling in false robberies or arson for kicks. Yes, there are rare cases where a defendant is falsely accused, and it’s horrifying to think of innocent people sent to prison on false charges. Fabricated reports only make it even more difficult for real victims to find justice. However, false allegations are simply not the widespread problem that people make them out to be.

The issue is further stratified by race. Women of color are stereotyped as being less “harmed” by sexual assault due to the stigma that has resulted from centuries of hyper-sexualization and dehumanization. All around the world, women of color are also far more likely to be attacked, and even less likely to be believed.

To move forward, we must acknowledge the grossly unfair bias against rape victims that exists in the public eye, law enforcement agencies and courtrooms. The automatic assumption that rape victims are lying is not rooted in fact, but a product of personal and societal prejudice."

posted December 10, 2017 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
What if you had a son who was falsely accused of rape? Anyone can just throw out false accusations and ruin someone's life?

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Considering that false allegations of rape are rare (see my post above on the actual stats), i think the more pertinent question is, wld you allow a 32 yr old roy moore to date your 14 or 16 or even 18 yr old underage daughter?

If not, why wld you want him in the senate? Why wld you want to give such a man more power?

"Anyone can just throw out false allegations and ruin someone's life"

This right here is victim shaming, it is one of the biggest reasons victims don't come forward...the fear and shame of being called a liar

What abt the lives of his underage victims that he's ruined? His then 14 yr old victim, Leigh Corfman, aftr being molested by moore, got into drugs and promiscuous sex w/ boys. This is exactly what typically happens aftr children are molested...they get into drugs/alcohol/sexual promiscuity, and their lives spiral out of control.

For 10 yrs she didn't tell her mother bc she blamed herself for what roy moore did. What abt the shame and guilt she's had to live w/ all her life? What abt her ruined life?

posted December 10, 2017 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
[b]No, he's been tried in the court of public opinion in Alabama. And Alabama voters are the jury that will decide his fate on Tuesday.

Jwhop keeps chiding those who think Moore should step down.. because innocent till proven guilty. Randall thinks the polls stand in for a court off law!

Perhaps it's a good thing felons can vote in Alabama. They have a reputation for intolerance of rapists and child abusers.. and a tendency not to be fond of DA's

Honestly.. the fact that one is legally innocent till proven guilty does not mean that denying charges makes you suitable to govern. It just makes it possible for those desperate fir the power of despots to look the other easy and encourage their constituents to vote for anyone regardless of doubts.. because someone needs to make a score in the legislature before the year is out!!

Don Wan .. poor poppet, who would be him? So desperate for approval and admiration and to go down in history as "THE BEST in every category" that he willingly works with ANYone who bolsters up that ambition.

In a hundred days he was going to change everything. In a year he has basically done nothing except sign EOs, distance us from allies and aggravate enemies.. the market is up so many aren't noticing this is exactly how abusive partners operate.. they isolate their target from all support before really going for it.[/B]

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The market numbers do not show the current high inflation

posted December 10, 2017 03:21 PM            

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Interestingly all these accusations are outside the statute of limitations.. but if Moore were investigated or tried and judged gulty he would be one of the felons NOT allowed to vote.
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/06/registering_to_vote_in_jail_ho.html

Innocent til proven guilty is important. But if you were checking references for a housekeeper and several former employers mentioned valuables going missing while the person was working for them.. or that their children complained about being abused by them.. would you hire them just because said candidate denied this info?

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Exactly!!

posted December 10, 2017 03:35 PM            

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The market numbers do not show the current high inflation

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posted December 10, 2017 03:40 PM            

@cat

This is exactly what his post to me said, in essence. That the voters are the court of law, if he wins then he didn't commit the sexual crimes, his political win is going to absolve him of all criminal and moral responsibility for his pathologically serious pattern of pedophilia De-Nile is not just a river in egypt

posted December 10, 2017 03:43 PM            

But why don't you answer the rest of my questions that are pertinent to this thread?

posted December 10, 2017 07:18 PM            

The perception of inflation varies widely by income of the perceiver.

posted December 11, 2017 04:05 AM            

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I'd like to see what source informed you that we are experiencing high inflation. Let me guess. Was it from the 70s? That has me question all of your sources. No, I never said that either a poll or an election substitutes for a court of law. Those making the accusations are not lawfully entitled to a court venue, because the alleged acts are outside of the statute of limitations. What I alluded to was that if Moore is being tried in the court of public opinion in Alabama, then the voters shall decide Moore's fate. For those so inclined and who wish to know reality, the rate of inflation is low and has been for quite some time.

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"I'd like to see what source informed you that we're experiencing high inflation. Let me guess. Was it from the 70s?

Nope, don't feel the need to have you validate my info or my source/s, especially not when you question rudely.

"That has me question all of your sources."

You've been questioning my sources. When i said that 1000 people had died in puerto rico (the actual # is 1100, while the govt's "official" # is 62), you asked "fear mongering much?" You want to live in a bubble of false security and happily post threads abt how well the market is doing, you go right ahead. I already wrote earlier in this thread that the next recession is right round the corner. That shld give a clue, shldn't it? And this time it will be worse than the one in the 70s bc 3 nations are actively colluding to destroy the US dollar.

So carry on bashing the dems on this forum, don't let my fear mongering interrupt your (and jwhop's) morbid pre-occupation w/ hating obama and the clintons, or your anxious wait for the GOP to score a senate seat in alabama. Maybe these pre-occupations will serve the two of you better in not missing the forest for the trees, i don't know *shrugs*

posted December 11, 2017 09:44 AM            

Hope Alabaman's vote for Doug Jones. Tomorrow's vote could be the biggest Karmic Test for 2018.

One side there is a good man who fought against injustice and prosecuted KKK murderers who ruthlessly killed 4 black girls. Mr Doug Jones.

On the other hand, there is a Satan Spawn who could be a Russian Pawn.

Choose wisely Alabamans...

Choose Wisely.

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posted December 11, 2017 09:55 AM            

One side there is a good man who fought against injustice and prosecuted KKK murderers who ruthlessly killed 4 black girls. Mr Doug Jones.

On the other hand, there is a Satan Spawn who could be a Russian Pawn.

Choose wisely Alabamans..."

posted December 11, 2017 01:43 PM            

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Trending video in Twitter about Roy Moore admiring Putin for his anti-Homosexual stance. In the end of the clip, Roy Moore suddenly speaks in chaste Russian. Sent a shiver down my spine. Not just a sex predator, not just an alleged pedophile, not just a slavery supporting racist but likely a Russian Sleeper Agent as well? Is that why Trump suddenly started supporting him after weeks of keeping quiet? Was there a directive from "High Command"? Why are so many of Trump's near and dear so closely connected to Russians?

Hope Alabaman's vote for Doug Jones. Tomorrow's vote could be the biggest Karmic Test for 2018.

One side there is a good man who fought against injustice and prosecuted KKK murderers who ruthlessly killed 4 black girls. Mr Doug Jones.

On the other hand, there is a Satan Spawn who could be a Russian Pawn.

Choose wisely Alabamans...

Choose Wisely.

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[iQ, sometimes i wonder how you have the patience year aftr year to hang around here warning them abt what lies ahead, trying to make them see reason, only to be called all sorts of names...i don't have that kind of patience, i've been back to LL on this forum only, for just a couple of weeks and i'm already worn out...just from talking w/ two men. So more power to you]

"In the end of the clip, Roy Moore suddenly speaks in chaste Russian."

Yes scary!

Roy moore's definition of homosexuality - a fear that straight men will treat him the way he treats women and young girls