posted October 16, 2012 08:55 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ail221:
[b]Did you ever rationalize maybe you have a cynical aura towards women? and that's the reason they treat you the way you claim to be treated. Even dogs and cats know when they come across someone that abuses animals, they hiss or bark and possibly attack. Plus based on that last post you seem more concerned with getting "Vag" as you stated rather than a stable gf.

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posted October 16, 2012 08:59 PM            

The husband eventually ended up hitting on me. Obviously, I fired them. They are divorced now.

Anyway, I have little hope in the human race lately because there are a lot of rotten examples of human flesh out there but I refuse to believe we are all deep down bad. There are gems out there and I know for a fact that I am not bad at the core. It seriously makes me sad that anyone would feel that way about themselves.

Although I'm sure there are girls out there that love 'bad boys' and women that go after all the wrong men all of their lives - I venture to say that most women grow out of that once they leave their teens if they happen fall into that trap to begin with.

Then there are the women that fall for the 'bad boys' in a misguided effort to change or 'heal' them. Another mistake.

THEN there are the strong women that don't need a man to stand outside the 'social norm' but can do it just fine on their own.

I have to say it also doesn't really sit right to me that so many people are ready to throw guys into two categories. "Nice guy" and "Bad guy". Really? I hear it a lot. Although there are guys that fit nicely into those peg holes - most of them don't and are.... people.

posted October 16, 2012 09:07 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Rebels and nonconformists (like I fell hard for one boy who stood up to cops, sat in trees to prevent them from being logged, and had a blue punk hairstyle but was still a good guy), yes, but not what I'd call bad.
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Another good point There are a LOT of 'good' guys that are outside social norms.

posted October 16, 2012 09:10 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:

Another good point There are a LOT of 'good' guys that are outside social norms.

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posted October 16, 2012 09:11 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I can't recall ever falling for a bad boy. Rebels and nonconformists (like I fell hard for one boy who stood up to cops, sat in trees to prevent them from being logged, and had a blue punk hairstyle but was still a good guy), yes, but not what I'd call bad. But there are plenty of "nice guys" I can't stand...and this echoes my sentiments on Why "Nice Guys" are often such LOSERS:
http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml

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posted October 16, 2012 09:27 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by ail221:
[b]Did you ever rationalize maybe you have a cynical aura towards women? and that's the reason they treat you the way you claim to be treated. Even dogs and cats know when they come across someone that abuses animals, they hiss or bark and possibly attack. Plus based on that last post you seem more concerned with getting "Vag" as you stated rather than a stable gf.

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posted October 16, 2012 09:34 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ail221:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by ail221:
[b]Did you ever rationalize maybe you have a cynical aura towards women? and that's the reason they treat you the way you claim to be treated. Even dogs and cats know when they come across someone that abuses animals, they hiss or bark and possibly attack. Plus based on that last post you seem more concerned with getting "Vag" as you stated rather than a stable gf.

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this doesn't make sense. you said they were picking up on my aura,if that were true women would be able to pick up on the anger of abusive men. but since you're talking about outward appearance now , I'm not outwardly angry and frustrated, I'm still as nice and friendly as ever.[/B][/QUOTE]

posted October 16, 2012 09:39 PM            

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Yes I said they are picking up on your aura. But real abusers, cheaters, men living double lives have the ability to hide that side of them. Just as some men have the ability to charm women and other men don't have that ability. Unless your are living a double life I don't think hiding your aura is a personal talent with that Taurus moon.

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posted October 16, 2012 09:59 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Exactly which is what I said somewhere a thousand years ago in the thread.

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Or... earlier today?

posted October 16, 2012 10:08 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ail221:
[b] Yes I said they are picking up on your aura. But real abusers, cheaters, men living double lives have the ability to hide that side of them. Just as some men have the ability to charm women and other men don't have that ability. Unless your are living a double life I don't think hiding your aura is a personal talent with that Taurus moon.

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YES, that was the point of my article. Being emotionally healthy means living in REALVILLE.

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posted October 16, 2012 10:15 PM            

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Or... earlier today?

My apologies, btw, if you did. I didn't read the whole thread before responding to the original post.

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posted October 16, 2012 10:32 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
No,apologies aren't needed It was more a big YES someone gets what I am saying reaction.

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I hear you!!

posted October 16, 2012 10:55 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
@ ami, I'm frustrated and I dont deny it, I am very vocal with my disapproval of bad boy love. I harp on my mom about it all the time, but she denies her love of bad boys and emotionally unavailable men,but her actions make it very clear that she does like those guys. so according to the logic of most women I'm unsuccesful with women because I'm frustrated that women like bad boys. but don't bad boys get angry and frustrated too? do women not pick up on that? doesnt everybody get frustrated, angry , or cynical sometimes? so why would I be singled out and x'd out because I get frustrated when women are pulled to guys alot worse then me. they fall for: druggies, liars, cheaters, guys with rage issues, alcoholics, guys with commitment issues, guys with personality disorders, violent/abusive men. etc so they'll give all these guys a chance and be loving and supportive of all their issues, but they'll write me off because I'm frustrated because I've been left out in the cold? so I'm more dangerous
or scary than the types of guys I listed above( all who manage to be very successful with women)? I'm sorry I don't think so.

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It is frustrating. Here is the thing. Talk is cheap. Watch actions. People can talk all kinds of crap. Watch what people do. That is the larger point of my article

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posted October 16, 2012 11:04 PM            

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It is frustrating. Here is the thing. Talk is cheap. Watch actions. People can talk all kinds of crap. Watch what people do. That is the larger point of my article

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posted October 16, 2012 11:23 PM            

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posted October 16, 2012 11:30 PM            

Be wise as serpents, gentle as doves. Learning this takes lots of being beaten up. I hate that this is the case, but it has been the case for me.

I had a major loss of innocence. Find a few good people who will help you. You can't do it without them

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posted October 17, 2012 12:10 AM            

I would never date a guy who is incapable of either of those

posted October 17, 2012 12:43 AM            

@ami -- YES, watch actions not words. i finally got this one down

also i agree w lei kuei-- women (and men) like a challenge.

2 other things i'd like to add:

a. desperation is not attractive in either sex

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posted October 17, 2012 12:58 AM            

I know I've accidentally dated bad boys, thinking at first that they were good boys. Only later to learn otherwise.

There are probably many woman like me who are extremely tired of the bad-boy types, especially after having been thru the wringer with one or two. And especially when they "sneak up on you" and show their true colors only a few months into the relationship when theyve already hooked you.

Aquaguy, remember that just because you watch a female hook up with what you determine is a douch-bag does not necessarliy mean he is, or that the woman is a dumb@ss - or only likes a-holes , or that no good can come from the connection.

You are not the be all, end all, know all - "final word" of all men and couplings on the planet.

posted October 17, 2012 01:04 AM            

& i needed them, for my own growth.

Yes, maybe some women never grow out of it, but would you want to be with one of those? There are plenty who do grow out of it and ARE looking for a normal nice guy.

Just saying, don't look at all girls you deem are with a "bad boy" as f*cked up. Maybe they need the learning experience.

You are pretty young afterall.