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Topic: Why Do Woman Like Bad Boys
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37580 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 17, 2012 05:41 PM
True dat ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4486 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 17, 2012 06:11 PM
ur a nut!
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37580 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 17, 2012 07:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: ur a nut!
I know. PS It is the best part of me ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4486 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 17, 2012 07:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I know.PS It is the best part of me
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PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 1085 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 17, 2012 08:17 PM
At the grocery store today I saw that Cosmo (once again) had more "kama sutra" "bad girl" sex positions (that is "to be bad" is to "be sexually fulfilled"), and that got me to wondering, how much does being bad attract men & women because of the sex they believe they'll experience? A lot of little things make me think I'm onto something here. For example, the guys who have a fetish about a woman smoking say they believe it's because a woman who smokes is slutty (and imagining her as earthy, cussing, etc). That is to say they're drawn to what they perceive as a bad girl in the hopes of getting laid. And I'm also recalling a guy who had problems because his girlfriend cussed more than he did and she felt judged, so maybe that works for sex, too, if you're self-conscious about your more base desires (as a great many women are) then perhaps you would feel less judged (as well as more likely for something to happen) with a bad boy. Again, the end desire is to get laid, not screwed (uh, well...you know what I mean! ) I recently came across this in other ways as well. For example, in the past year I've gone to Subway a little over a dozen times and I've learned I prefer the guys to serve me because they put A LOT more on it while women normally skimp (my theory until today was that men think "bigger is better" and also want to prove themselves good providers so would give more food, especially when it's not really theirs whereas women think about food budgets more and thus instinctively tried protecting Subway's budget). I mentioned this today to a guy and he said he found the exact opposite to be true for him which made me realize I'd probably been wrong about my initial guess at their motivation and thought instead it represented a subconscious (or maybe even conscious) desire to get laid. That is, if there's any sexual desire and/or possibility then the person is inclined (even if only subconsciously) to give more on the instinctive premise of "you gotta give to get" (and dinners are traditional to get something, be it business, political alliances, or sex, and btw some women try to use cooking to seduce a man as well). That is to say, our instincts may gear a great many of us to do whatever to get laid, even if we're not consciously aware of it (just my pet theory at the moment). IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4486 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 17, 2012 08:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: At the grocery store today I saw that Cosmo (once again) had more "kama sutra" "bad girl" sex positions (that is "to be bad" is to "be sexually fulfilled"), and that got me to wondering, how much does being bad attract men & women because of the sex they believe they'll experience? A lot of little things make me think I'm onto something here. For example, the guys who have a fetish about a woman smoking say they believe it's because a woman who smokes is slutty (and imagining her as earthy, cussing, etc). That is to say they're drawn to what they perceive as a bad girl in the hopes of getting laid. And I'm also recalling a guy who had problems because his girlfriend cussed more than he did and she felt judged, so maybe that works for sex, too, if you're self-conscious about your more base desires (as a great many women are) then perhaps you would feel less judged (as well as more likely for something to happen) with a bad boy. Again, the end desire is to get laid, not screwed (uh, well...you know what I mean! ) I recently came across this in other ways as well. For example, in the past year I've gone to Subway a little over a dozen times and I've learned I prefer the guys to serve me because they put A LOT more on it while women normally skimp (my theory until today was that men think "bigger is better" and also want to prove themselves good providers so would give more food, especially when it's not really theirs whereas women think about food budgets more and thus instinctively tried protecting Subway's budget). I mentioned this today to a guy and he said he found the exact opposite to be true for him which made me realize I'd probably been wrong about my initial guess at their motivation and thought instead it represented a subconscious (or maybe even conscious) desire to get laid. That is, if there's any sexual desire and/or possibility then the person is inclined (even if only subconsciously) to give more on the instinctive premise of "you gotta give to get" (and dinners are traditional to get something, be it business, political alliances, or sex, and btw some women try to use cooking to seduce a man as well). That is to say, our instincts may gear a great many of us to do whatever to get laid, even if we're not consciously aware of it (just my pet theory at the moment).
good guys and girls have needs too lmao IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 1085 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 17, 2012 08:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: good guys and girls have needs too lmao
Yeah, but those who are good aren't supposed to act on them save under very restrictive circumstances that a great many would rather avoid. IP: Logged |
C1ND3R Knowflake Posts: 1370 From: Dorsia Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 17, 2012 08:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by C1ND3R: I've met plenty of women who do it solely for revenge... To get back at their parents i.e. katy perry with mr.brand.Her parents are ministers... She couldn't evven eat lucky charms while growing up because they believed "luck" was of "the devil". She off and marries a sex and ex-heroin/crack addict out of habit; originally, to prove that her own independence is and was a good thing but she got stuck there. I met a jewish lady who did the same and now, as she approaches her 40's, she's still dating black guys in their 20's (for conversations sake-- her mother would NOT dare allow her daughter be seen with a black man).. Now, she's in abusive relationship after abusive relationship and doesn't seem to care of breaking the pattern and still doesn't understand why it works the way that it does. Once her mother ex-communicated her and took her out of her will, she begun to date black guys but, the new type she was attracting and after, had criminal records. So, she developed an attraction towards unaccomplished black men with criminal records to remind herself of how awesome and competetent she was (everything her mother would not say to her) because since she had been ex-communicated, she was willing to get that confirmation one way or other and if it had have been by her, then so be it. There may always be a reason in the BEGINNING... I think chiron may play a part since chiron was the odd one out of all the centaurs but if the awareness level is beyond TOO LOW; it's just a highway to hell for some of those people. For those that may want to play a role and wake them up to what it is they're doing, do so at your own peril.. If they dwell on that and you're in their life, your role is that of an enabler... Once you shake up their foundation, those individuals will either cut you off almost entirely or then pass onto you what was passed onto them.
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C1ND3R Knowflake Posts: 1370 From: Dorsia Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 17, 2012 08:54 PM
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4486 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 17, 2012 09:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Yeah, but those who are good aren't supposed to act on them save under very restrictive circumstances that a great many would rather avoid.
what do you mean? the only difference i see between a good guy and a bad boy when it comes to sex is the fact that a good guy actually wants more then just sex. we have sexual desires just like the bad boys, but we dont use women as booty calls or get them pregnant and disappear, we man up, thats what seperates a good guy from a bad boy. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 1085 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 17, 2012 09:08 PM
I was talking instinct, not rational thought. Part of instinct is to have sex, but another instinct is to not do something to get you expelled from the tribe/society, which can create a conflict in women (and sometimes men) regarding sex. And women are people, too, just as messed up as men. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4486 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 17, 2012 09:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: I was talking instinct, not rational thought. Part of instinct is to have sex, but another instinct is to not do something to get you expelled from the tribe/society, which can create a conflict in women (and sometimes men) regarding sex. And women are people, too, just as messed up as men.
but promiscuity is encouraged by society now. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 1085 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 17, 2012 09:17 PM
For men. Not for women. We have to put up with something you don't called "**** shaming." To escape **** shaming we have to be very careful of who we mess around with or even reveal our desires to. But this is getting confusing to explain because it's not entirely conscious. Instinct means a desire that's sometimes acted on without lucid thought or awareness. And human nature, male and female, often wants to have its cake and eat it, too, and also has a hard time telling the difference between fantasy & reality. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4486 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 17, 2012 09:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: For men. Not for women. We have to put up with something you don't called "**** shaming." To escape **** shaming we have to be very careful of who we mess around with or even reveal our desires to. But this is getting confusing to explain because it's not entirely conscious. Instinct means a desire that's sometimes acted on without lucid thought or awareness. And human nature, male and female, often wants to have its cake and eat it, too, and also has a hard time telling the difference between fantasy & reality.
sigh* people make zero sense to me. perhaps I'll go back to uranus. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 1085 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 18, 2012 05:05 AM
And another thing, is it worth reflecting on how assholes are generally the well loved and popular heroes in movies? (Example: The Sopranos.) Or real life? (In America at least, our comedy tends to be cruel, and many seem to enjoy the reality shows with scathing critics to contestants as well as other assholes like Trump.) But then it's just one more aspect of our schizo society given that plenty of other popular figures stand up to bullies (such as Harry Potter, Miley Stewart in Hannah Montana, and countless vigilante & martial arts movies). And, of course, school... http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/08/kids-and-aggression-popularity-matters/ quote: The study, appearing in the journal American Sociological Review, also found that kids who are the least popular are also among the least likely to torment others.Researchers used data from nearly 4,000 ninth- and 10th-graders who participated in The Context of Adolescent Substance Use study, which is a long-term project that surveyed students in three counties in North Carolina in public schools. This new study on popularity and aggression followed the kids for the 2004 to 2005 school year. A limitation is that the authors did not interview the participants to get further context about the students' thoughts and feelings. The research looked at physical, verbal and indirect aggression, which includes spreading rumors or ostracizing others. Study authors asked participants to name everyone they had been mean to, and everyone who had picked on them. They also had to state the nature of the unkindness, whether it be physical violence or name-calling or gossiping. It appears that it didn't matter what kind of aggression was involved – the popular (but not most popular) kids are more likely to be perpetrators, and it gets worse as you climb the social ladder (until you hit the highest rung). "We can conclude that rates of aggression generally increase as kids gain status," Faris said.
And as Bowling for Soup says, high school never ends (set to Kim Possible because the official vid actually censored minor words that robbed some of the relevance from the song). ETA: speaking of Kim Possible, here's the ep Bad Boy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TurXGLRMwRA IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 4079 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 18, 2012 08:47 AM
Whatcha talking about? Forgetboutit. Tony Soprano's my hero and Donald Trump is my idol. John Gotti was just a pumbling supply salesman.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37580 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 18, 2012 09:02 AM
I know people are gonna go totally crazy about this, but when you follow the Bible, life gets so much simpler ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 4079 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 18, 2012 09:11 AM
The Bible doesn't condone debauchery? I ask for forgiveness afterwards. Doesn't that count for something?IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 1085 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 18, 2012 09:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: when you follow the Bible, life gets so much simpler
IDK, some people find it a little too complicated... https://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/01/03-3 quote: 1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? 2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? 3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual "uncleanliness" - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. 4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? 5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it? 6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there degrees of abomination? 7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here? 8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die? 9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? 10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37580 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 18, 2012 09:33 AM
You don't have to follow the OT. It is all about grace and forgiveness, now--NOT LAW. That was the reason Jesus came.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Lei_Kuei Moderator Posts: 846 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 18, 2012 11:19 AM
quote: That is to say they're drawn to what they perceive as a bad girl in the hopes of getting laid.
It works every which way, because beneath everyone's poised appearance they are completely and totally out of control (sexually) The Universe was created via orgasm, so really what do you expect It is only the rules of society that constrain the otherwise "fraking in the streets" - The 60's was but a snippet of human sexual behavior! ------------------ ~*~ Did you know that a circle is round? ~*~ - Tautology You can't handle my level of Tinfoil! ~ {;,;}
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37580 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 18, 2012 11:24 AM
quote: beneath everyone's poised appearance they are completely and totally out of control
I am thinking this is true, too. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Xodian Knowflake Posts: 443 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 18, 2012 12:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aquacheeka: Honestly, a guy can be the nicest guy in the world, but if he's whiny, that is so unattractive.
This pretty much has been my observation as well. I find it amusing that the guy who usually whines about rejected for being a nice guy is usually the one who has a lot of personal issues and self-defecating problems. A "Nice" guy is a cliched term for a person who just too bogged down with self-defecating problems to the point where they think that being rejected by a girl on and on is due to the fact that they are "nice" which is usually not the case. A girl usually rejects them for quite a few OTHER reasons rather than them being "nice." Maybe they have mommy issues, maybe they are just way too much of a dork, maybe they are just bad kissers... I think the problem a lot of insecure girls and guys have with being "friend zoned" is the fact that they think that their feelings for the person being so strong as they are should have been reciprocated and returned in kind; As if the person who friend zoned them OWE them a relationship type deal for their efforts; Usually on a romantic level. Ah... No? They don't owe you anything romantic or the sorts. A friendship is a mutually binding PLATONIC relationship where your input for the person in question does not goes beyond the platonic zone. IMO there is a difference between a Kind/Good/Sincere guy and a "Nice" guy. I'll let Jenna Marbles explain the rest: http://youtu.be/3VXXXX9iVPI
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4486 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 18, 2012 12:40 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Xodian: This pretty much has been my observation as well. I find it amusing that the guy who usually whines about rejected for being a nice guy is usually the one who has a lot of personal issues and self-defecating problems.A "Nice" guy is a cliched term for a person who just too bogged down with self-defecating problems to the point where they think that being rejected by a girl on and on is due to the fact that they are "nice" which is usually not the case. A girl usually rejects them for quite a few OTHER reasons rather than them being "nice." Maybe they have mommy issues, maybe they are just way too much of a dork, maybe they are just bad kissers... I think the problem a lot of insecure girls and guys have with being "friend zoned" is the fact that they think that their feelings for the person being so strong as they are should have been reciprocated and returned in kind; As if the person who friend zoned them OWE them a relationship type deal for their efforts; Usually on a romantic level. Ah... No? They don't owe you anything romantic or the sorts. A friendship is a mutually binding PLATONIC relationship where your input for the person in question does not goes beyond the platonic zone. IMO there is a difference between a Kind/Good/Sincere guy and a "Nice" gu I'll let Jenna Marbles explain the rest: http:/ /youtu.be/3VXXXX9iVPI [/ QUOTE] oh here we go again .... first of all I don't think most guys are being whiny at all when they bring up this issue, they are simply stating their experiences,and their experience is that women seem to go for guys who are blatant douchebags while ignoring the decent guys. the reason us "nice guys" get ****** off is because just about every woman claims to want a guy who is like us but yet they always end up friendzoning us or ignoring us completely and go for the exact opposite(cheaters, liars, violent/angry guys) and then complain when they get burned. can you not see ow this would be pretty f*cking frustrating for a nice guy? I can't speak for all guys, but I can speak for myself and I'm not manipulative(I'm genuinely kind ) and I don't feel entitled to a relationship at all, I just figure since women claim to want a nice guy I ought to be having some measure of success.in short none of the typical nice guy shaming language applies to me, I'm not spineless(I'll stand up for myself and others),and I'm not passive( I'm direct with my intentions and feelings for a woman).
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4486 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 18, 2012 12:48 PM
the argument that nice guys issues cripple them in the dating game really ticks me off. because women gladly date guys who are: violent, liars, drug addicts,alcoholics,and guys who have commitment issues, are those not issues? I personally think those are worse then the alleged issues people claim nice guys have ,but that's just me.
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