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I'm so cappy
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posted April 03, 2014 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And it really annoys me. Just had to let it out.

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posted April 03, 2014 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost everyone I know IRL is a homophobe. :/

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I'm so cappy
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posted April 03, 2014 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My condolences. My mother seems to think gay men are psychos or something. I suppose she isn't more accepting of lesbians. The funny thing is - she likes my friend and he's gay. She doesn't know that though. I wish I could tell her and see her face...

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posted April 03, 2014 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are not responsible for your mom, as I know you know, my dear Friend

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I'm so cappy
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posted April 03, 2014 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course I'm not. I'm just sick of hearing this BS.

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12muddy
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posted April 03, 2014 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents are. Meh the other day mom said something pretty silly and I told myself to hold my tongue..."No... not another fight". But well we ended up arguing about it anyway lolol

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Kerosene
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posted April 03, 2014 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My aren't but every time my mom watches project runway by dad starts impersonating tim gun and some of the designers and I'm like LoL chillllllllll

but he's a clown sooo.

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posted April 03, 2014 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both my parents used to be homophobes but after fighting endlessly with them about religious topics including that one they actually both are not anymore for some reason. At least my Sag planets are good for something

There's been a major shift in the US lately tho at least with our generation so it always surprises and annoys me to come across someone who still doesn't get what's going on irl... There was a vote a couple years ago trying to make gay marriage unconstitutional permanently in my state and there was huge support from ppl my age not to pass it. Now it's legal here

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Kerosene
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posted April 03, 2014 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but isn't eastern europe primarily like that?
I don't you should feel too bad about your mum.
It's not really her fault but she was just conditioned to think that.

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posted April 03, 2014 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What gets me mad is how people LIKE a whole group without thought or HATE a whole group without thought. Each person should be taken as a unique entity.

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posted April 03, 2014 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
but isn't eastern europe primarily like that?
I don't you should feel too bad about your mum.
It's not really her fault but she was just conditioned to think that.

It's not anyone's fault for being "conditioned" that way but I just feel like ppl should still be able to figure it out right? We're not mindless herd animals... Anyway I agree don't feel bad you can never change other ppls opinions, but the world is changing either way so eventually it will suck to be a homophobe not the other way around

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posted April 03, 2014 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My cousin, one I practically grew up with, thinks that "pedophile" and "gay" are synonyms.
We're close because of our childhood but I have to admit I don't call him anymore when I get back home.
If one of his kids happens to be gay, it's not going to be pretty.
My Mom is progressive, thank God.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 03, 2014 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know how you would classify me, but I clearly straddle the grey area middle ground.

I know a fair number of gay and lesbian people. They are great people, and just people, like everyone else. I like many of them like I like heterosexuals, as in I don't like very many heterosexuals anyway. I don't go out of the way to avoid homosexuals, and I don't go out of the way to socialize with heterosexuals.

I'm not homophobic, as is I'm not afraid of gays and lesbians and bisexuals or whatever. Just do whatever whenever in your own privacy and it doesn't affect me, and I don't really care. I don't care much for that behavior, but it's of no consequence to me.

Just don't preach that lifestyle and I'm cool with that. I must admit I find public transgender displays distasteful.

I nevertheless object to gay marriage but that to me is a taxation issue. I don't like government social engineering and I want the government to stay out of private lives.

I must also admit that I would reverse engineer my kids if they turned out gay, which they aren't.

That's my stance.

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posted April 03, 2014 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I don't know how you would classify me, but I clearly straddle the grey area middle ground.

I know a fair number of gay and lesbian people. They are great people, and just people, like everyone else. I like many of them like I like heterosexuals, as in I don't like very many heterosexuals anyway. I don't go out of the way to avoid homosexuals, and I don't go out of the way to socialize with heterosexuals.

I'm not homophobic, as is I'm not afraid of gays and lesbians and bisexuals or whatever. Just do whatever whenever in your own privacy and it doesn't affect me, and I don't really care. I don't care much for that behavior, but it's of no consequence to me.

Just don't preach that lifestyle and I'm cool with that. I must admit I find public transgender displays distasteful.

I nevertheless object to gay marriage but that to me is a taxation issue. I don't like government social engineering and I want the government to stay out of private lives.

I must also admit that I would reverse engineer my kids if they turned out gay, which they aren't.

That's my stance.



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My parents aren't homophobes, I would say. They're okay with gayness of the sexuality but they think its gross and whenever they see a gay or lesbian couple kissing on tv they shout "Ewww!!" like they have to be turned on by it, which they don't. So you don't have it that bad. Do you know how embarassing that would be for me if I had friends over and they heard that? Extremely.

It just is what it is and they shouldnt even have a reaction, its someone elses life thats happening. not theirs.

For a while I was homophobic and anyone changing their clothes in front of me of the same sex would make me feel uncomfortable. Now I'm actually the opposite. I find myself fascinated by anything homosexual and it irks me because why? I'm a straight asexual...
Maybe somewhere deep down my sexuality is confused but I am almost certain im heterosexual. I just think its cool alright. That could be the way I rebel against my parents wishes, who knows. lol

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posted April 03, 2014 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My cousin, one I practically grew up with, thinks that "pedophile" and "gay" are synonyms.

Ugh, same here.

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I must also admit that I would reverse engineer my kids if they turned out gay, which they aren't.

You mean you'd try to "treat" them? :/

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I'm a straight asexual...

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I am almost certain im heterosexual

No, you're heteroromantic. You're welcome :P
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posted April 03, 2014 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am going to take a stance here that will get me a lot of enemies. I do not think people are born gay. If I had a child who said he was gay, I would try to reverse it. Yes.

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posted April 03, 2014 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Errr...no comment.

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and I want the government to stay out of private lives

Shouldn't you be anti-heteromarriage too then?

I'm not fond of this institution but if it's supposed to keep going, I see no reason why homosexual people shouldn't have the right to participate. They're equal citizens.

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posted April 03, 2014 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Anne & YTA

I agree

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posted April 03, 2014 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You mean you'd try to "treat" them? :/

That's an instinctive comment. I have no idea what I would do. I rather they not be gay but I cannot pre-plan every contingency. Please grant me that.

Just walking into my church would be enough "treatment." Marrying a European was already next to impossible and I survived that. I can't begin to imagine presenting homosexuality.

My wife is far more conservative than I am, so while I may potentially "treat," she would exact the "wrath." My mind says that people are sort of born that way, and then conditioned into acceptance. My wife's mind says that it's out of devious behavior and only the sinful get that way.

I'm here aren't I? That alone is a liberal milestone given my background. You do understand that regardless of any discuission, all this is at odds with who I am and where I come from? I think my dad crapped his pants when he found out that I'm going to marry a White girl.

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posted April 03, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Shouldn't you be anti-heteromarriage too then?

I'm not fond of this institution but if it's supposed to keep going, I see no reason why homosexual people shouldn't have the right to participate. They're equal citizens.



I'm not in any position to promote or discourage this institution. To each individual their own preference. I'm not into social engineering programs.

If you are coming from the position of taxation, then yes, I'm not going to advocate the tax benefits of marriage. Want to marry, don't want to marry, want to self-pleasure forever, I'm totally indifferent and it's none of my business.

Neither would you find me advocating child tax credits or credit for child care expenses. And it's not because I don't qualify for all of that.

Which comes back to my point. Homosexuals want probate rights and tax credits. If anyone wants to pick up a child from any corner of Earth and give loving tender care, then all power to them. Good. Great. It's their freaking choice. Don't expect me to subsidize with my tax dollars.

If a child of a homosexual pair goes to school, then great. Another child getting a proper education. Just don't expect my son to freaking read "Heather Has Two Mommies." I don't have the time nor inclination to psychologically adjust my heterosexual child to that sh1t, just like I won't tell my heterosexual child to go to school and tell Heather that her two mommies are living in f-ing sin.

That's not how I roll. I mind my own business. You mind your own business. Don't like me? Then same sentiments to you and same sentiments to yo mama.

I must also admit that I do dig you very much, even though there are diametrically opposed viewpoints. I respect your position and I can see where you are coming from. Having said that, I'm just a tired married old f4rt with my old ways. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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posted April 03, 2014 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am going to take a stance here that will get me a lot of enemies. I do not think people are born gay. If I had a child who said he was gay, I would try to reverse it. Yes.


Well because you're old and lived in another decade I won't call you stupid.
Just ignorant.. I remember you were inquiring about cross dressing as it's some new age thing... Even though it's been around since well forever.

I would think a parent would want to support your child instead of repressing who they are and feeling ashamed.
Because you can say it is a choice because they choose to be happy lol
So with that thought I question your judgement.

As for being christian, I know christian families that just accept it because they believe they are all sinners in some way.
You did mention you're born again no offense most of the ones I know are batshit insane LOL.

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posted April 03, 2014 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well because you're old and lived in another decade I won't call you stupid.
Just ignorant.. I remember you were inquiring about cross dressing as it's some new age thing... Even though it's been around since well forever.

I would think a parent would want to support your child instead of repressing who they are and feeling ashamed.
Because you can say it is a choice because they choose to be happy lol
So with that thought I question your judgement.

As for being christian, I know christian families that just accept it because they believe they are all sinners in some way.
You did mention you're born again no offense most of the ones I know are batshit insane LOL.


I'm not old and agree with her 1000 percent. Being gay is a choice and if I had a child who were gay you better believe I'll do absolutely whatever I can to push them out of that. That's her belief and you shouldn't be running your mouth at her about it. You're being just as ignorant as you claim she is.

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posted April 03, 2014 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know I already think you're an idiot..

May you have many homosexual children that reject you.
Muahahahahhaa

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 03, 2014 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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most of the ones I know are batshit insane LOL.


And very proud of it LOL

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