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iQ
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posted September 13, 2011 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mochai,
The Cortisol produced from unreleased stress and the excess adrenaline from repressed bitter anger/hatred, their combination attracts immense pain. Forgiveness and Love reverse their effect by producing harmonious neuropeptides. Thus, the Law of Karma stands supreme for all in 3D Reality. It will work whether anyone believes in its existence or not. Just as virtue itself is its own reward for realized beings, disbelief in the existence of karmic laws itself is its own punishment. It will lead to cyclical failures every 7-8 years [Saturn Square Transit] and big setbacks every 19 years [North Node return] and monumental setbacks every 29.5 years [Saturn return to point of original negativity wave]. Simple check, hardly any sports person today is deeply spiritual yet nearly every athlete suffers a major injury or performance setback between age 29.5-30.5 , the full effect of Saturn Return.
Simple examples: Tyson's ultimate descent came after he lost to Evander Holyfield at age 30. John Lennon was assassinated 19 years after he allegedly hit Stu Sutcliffe in 1961, causing the aneurisms that led to his death a few months later.

Mahatma Gandhi proved the right way to tackle karmic debts. Non reactive non violent protests. The British just did not know what to do, they provoked and provoked and provoked. They wanted angry and violent outbursts so that they could unleash retribution. The Gandhians just did not give them any reason for retaliation.

Hermetically speaking, they destroyed the energy of the Pendulum and polarized to the goal of freedom. Once the pendulum switched to begin punishment of the British for not leaving India, the enlightened Freemasons and Occultists in charge of Britain forced the Elite Windsor Reptilians to give in for they knew the consequences would be harsh for the Nation. The British Nation gained points by saving the world from Hitler and their good karmas would have been utterly wasted had they continued earning negative karma by brutal colonialism of a now non-violent population.

I must remind that the British gained supremacy initially in the late 18th century thanks to the efforts of William Wilberforce and his team of anti-Slavery activists. The French used the energy of newly discovered Uranus for their own independence from Elitists but the British and the American gnostics spread the spirit of individual freedom to more people. Which is why Britain and USA edged France, Russia, Germany and Japan in global supremacy.

Karma is also related to blessings and curses of 100% Kundalini Realized Beings, those who are above Karmic Debts. Like Swami Vivekananda. The United States received a powerful blessing from from Swami Vivekananda when he went to Chicago.

I really think we can put all the karmic posts in a different thread.

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mochai
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posted September 14, 2011 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a good point iq.

I wanted to put this up here for voix considering suffering etc. A compilation of near death experience accounts concerning the nature of suffering and love. http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research01.html#g01

Also.. cortisol kills neurons

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posted September 15, 2011 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Mochai,

thank you for the link, I will check it out today.


Incidentally, back to the subject of Freemasonry and women.
I found a freemason in my work, and I picked his brain a bit.
He is the master of a lodge and also a Knight's Templar.
He completely evaded every question I had regarding the segregation of the sexes and kept advising me to read the book "The Second Messiah", he also kept saying that the Da Vinci Code holds many truths about the whole thing. I don't believe him.

If he had answered my original question he may have garnered some credibility from me, but he very obviously avoided it each time I asked.
I explicitly told him that my only interest was in discovering what is the basis for the separation of men and women.

I discovered another person who comes into my work who is also a mason, I may ask him, but it seems to be a dead end asking the members, even though in the next breath they will tell you they are 'transparent'.

When I asked him what his interest in them was he said 'we just get together and play cards, it's just like a social club'

- phew, I never knew you had to be 'initiated, related to a previous or current member, and believe in a higher being to join a social club!

So, I then said, so was your father a mason, he said yes.

He also kept telling me that I was heading for bricks walls and that I was asking the wrong questions, and that there was nothing to investigate - same old, same old.

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posted January 20, 2012 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raya_of_light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's a load of horsesh*t. You're wrong. The end. Masculinity and Femininity are cultural constructs. Whether you were born with a d*ck or a vag*na doesn't mean you are AUTOMATICALLY going to act masculine or feminine. My vag*na has no bearing on whether I'm good at driving or math. Men don't have to feel pressure to be ultra masculine, just as women don't have to feel pressure to be ultra feminine. Gender inequality hurts us all and if you believe otherwise, you're part of the problem.

I wholeheartedly agree! Although if a guy wants to be a guy only club I think a man is entitle to have as a woman is entitle to have a woman only club. The dynamic changes when there's males and females together so it is fine to keep certain dynamic the same if one wants to unload issues without having to be on guard against the other gender and tip-toeing because the other gender/race is in the room. My feeling on this is that a lot of these secret groups are exclusionary and very male focus.

I read an article recently http://www.kryon.com/k_channel11_Lima-11.html that helps to explain why a lot of various groups may it be organized religions such as Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, are very male center and it said that the Kundalini of the Earth was located in India/Tibet--the hub of spirituality and it is located in the North hemisphere which is very male dominated energy. That's why there an imbalanced of male energy dominance and warfare happening in the North a lot. The feminine mother energy has always been in the south located in Machu Picchu, Peru and the Kundalini is moving to the south because of the consciousness change in humanity. Love love the article. I'm ready for the change to be inclusive than divide like these exclusionary groups.

Secret knowledge should never be kept away from someone because of their gender if they are ready to learn and be open. That is why I have a hard time with such groups as the freemason. Manly P. Hall was a high ordered freemason and didn't believe in excluding females. Shared his knowledge freely through writing books about "secret knowledge."

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posted January 21, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Manly P Hall knew more about Masonic Secrets even though he was not an initiate. The brotherhood directly made him a 33rd degree Master without Initiation, perhaps to save themselves the embarrassment of knowing less than one they consider Profane

It is thus 100% bullsh*t by Freemasonry, Rosicrucians, Shriners, Templars etc that one needs to be an initiate to attain Spiritual Success. A Good Human Being's Will Power is greater than the lies of all Master Masons in human history.

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posted January 21, 2012 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raya_of_light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Manly P Hall knew more about Masonic Secrets even though he was not an initiate. The brotherhood directly made him a 33rd degree Master without Initiation, perhaps to save themselves the embarrassment of knowing less than one they consider Profane

It is thus 100% bullsh*t by Freemasonry, Rosicrucians, Shriners, Templars etc that one needs to be an initiate to attain Spiritual Success. A Good Human Being's Will Power is greater than the lies of all Master Masons in human history.


Right on!

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posted January 23, 2012 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Couldn't have said IT better IQ~

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posted March 12, 2012 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good info!

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posted March 28, 2012 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great info!

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posted March 29, 2012 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Manly P Hall knew more about Masonic Secrets even though he was not an initiate. The brotherhood directly made him a 33rd degree Master without Initiation, perhaps to save themselves the embarrassment of knowing less than one they consider Profane

It is thus 100% bullsh*t by Freemasonry, Rosicrucians, Shriners, Templars etc that one needs to be an initiate to attain Spiritual Success. A Good Human Being's Will Power is greater than the lies of all Master Masons in human history.



While on a tech basis you are right, most people bouncing around have no notion of spirit. Manly P Hall, like others were naturally driven to do it and that is the difference here.

I do not think they lied, Its just a simple fact that trying to share great knowledge in one stroke is hard to do, so a level system is there with different layers of knowledge.

(You could tell me the secret of running a fortune 500 company, but unless I am inclined and have a background of knowledge to apply the secret, It would simply fall on deaf ears and not be useful at all.)

Masons are builders, so why would they waste time building a crane that could only lift 5 pounds?

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