posted June 29, 2015 09:37 PM              

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Originally posted by angel4845:
i have moon trines with my partner hahaha! I'm the venus =) my venus trines my partner's sun & moon. hehe! =)

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posted June 29, 2015 09:38 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I meant Moon trine Moon

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yeah i know i forgot to include that, i have moon opposite moon 7th and 1st.

posted June 29, 2015 09:39 PM              

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Originally posted by angel4845:
yeah i know i forgot to include that, i have moon opposite moon 7th and 1st.

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That's a great aspect to have and the others you describe as well.

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posted June 29, 2015 09:40 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
That's a great aspect to have and the others you describe as well.

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i hope so I'm sure your right....but i have no venus mars aspects =( LOL!

posted June 29, 2015 10:30 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, the "Moon connection", also called the "compatible Moons" by some astrologers (to describe a trine or sextile) is not the first thing I check, since I haven't found it to be relevant, when it comes to aspects. It's the Sun/Moon connection I check first and the Moon connection as a complex result of sign/house/aspects (Moon type, VERY important to identify someone's emotional and basic needs).
Not many couples have an actual Moon/Moon aspect, but I believe those who have it experience a deep connection; it's generally a very beneficial connection. Even if it shows some contrast, as Neptunian Venus said, in the case of hard aspects, this contrast is soon integrated in a positive way and the attraction is immense, with an actual aspect (if this aspect is according to natal needs).

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posted June 29, 2015 11:11 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Oh, I remember you now we had the same patter on the Mars/Saturn thread: you are one of those who need to have the last word. I will leave you this silly pleasure, I am in a generous mood, the Venus/Jupiter conjunction sits on my Moon now And my "brand of astrology" is contemporary-avant-garde as opposed to Middle Ages astrology.

I just wanted to clarify what I meant, about your contradicting yourself: your best match, based on your geometry, is another mutable Moon. No wonder Pisces is the Moon you say you get along with, it's because of it being mutable.

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You presume to analyse me from a single thread and spew red herring? Very productive for a reply you need not type. I was clarifying myself, what you seem to like to do for me and others. I don't need that service from you. You misinterpret me entirely so you can forward your own agenda. Ex: I said nowhere I get along with pisces moons. Do me the courtesy of understanding my replies or do not reply.

Also, what thread? Cite your source because I certainly don't fuel my ego in those "debates" w/o content.

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For anyone who's misinterpreted my personal thoughts, I am a pisces moon. I attract moon-moon conjunctions but don't really like that aspect, since their moon conjuncts my saturn, usually. Sag moons make OK friends, (aspecting my FGT, square my moon and saturn) but I can't live with them. Gemini moon square my moon could be a deal breaker and I certainly can't live with them.

posted June 30, 2015 05:20 AM              

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
LeeLoo, I agree with you that moon-moon contacts create immense attraction whatever they are. The attraction is still there with the hard aspects. The difference is they turn destructive and very emotionally draining overtime. It's like being thirsty and never being given a drink because the person does not know what you need to satisfy your thirst. They can't understand what you are asking for. The conjunction is the only one I feel that COULD probably become positive overtime. The others are corrosive, with some being worse than others, depending on the signs.

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Have you checked the list I took the trouble to post? Does it show a prevalence of soft aspects? No.

No astrological idea has value unless it is backed by real life experience and statistics. And reality contradicts you. You are wrong in what you say, sorry.

But of course, if someone wants to believe what you believe, I can't change that.

Also, you didn't answer my questions about your synastry with the two squares you had? That would have been interesting, to see the possible source of what you experienced in those synastries; this way, you can hold your argument, by showing these otherwise perfectly "harmonious" synastries with a Moon square.

The fun part here is to discuss astrology with the actual charts.

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posted June 30, 2015 05:31 AM              

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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
You presume to analyse me from a single thread and spew red herring? Very productive for a reply you need not type. I was clarifying myself, what you seem to like to do for me and others. I don't need that service from you. You misinterpret me entirely so you can forward your own agenda. Ex: I said nowhere I get along with pisces moons. Do me the courtesy of understanding my replies or do not reply.

Also, what thread? Cite your source because I certainly don't fuel my ego in those "debates" w/o content.

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For anyone who's misinterpreted my personal thoughts, [b]I am a pisces moon. I attract moon-moon conjunctions but don't really like that aspect, since their moon conjuncts my saturn, usually. Sag moons make OK friends, (aspecting my FGT, square my moon and saturn) but I can't live with them. Gemini moon square my moon could be a deal breaker and I certainly can't live with them.

Thats it. Good-bye. [/B]

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Geez, agendas, red herrings...it's an astrological debate, for god's sake.

I do neither of the things you describe, just expressing a different opinion.

It was unclear from your post, so sorry, I understood you actually like those Pisces Moon.

Usually, we do attract people we need though, so you attracting Pisces Moons is in tune with your chart type.

It would be much more interesting to say which are the Moons you get along with, after taking a look at your circle of closed friends. My suspicion is that many of them have the placements I describe.

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posted June 30, 2015 07:25 AM            

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Originally posted by cchampliss2:
Did somebody already list Pluto square Mars in synastry as the worst aspect?

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posted June 30, 2015 07:34 AM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
i have this in synastry...my natal mars is conjunct my partner's saturn in the 3rd house. how did you feel about being saturn?? how did you see mars? would looooooove to know i feel this aspect is like glue to me. i also have my natal saturn conjunct my partner's DRACO saturn in the 5th.

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Well there's always other things going on. We also had my Venus square her Saturn.

It seemed that she was always withholding her feelings though I pretty much knew. She wrote me goodnight messages EVERY NIGHT FOR MONTHS. Once I didn't get back for a couple of days and she was worried that she had upset me. Yet, she'd never come out direct with how she felt. (Or at least I thought she felt)

She'd sometimes tell me things, like what she did in the shower or how clean and smooth she was now. LOL
Yeah..... Hahaha
But if I tried to take it ANY further then she'd smirk and walk away.
If I got very direct and serious, asking for a forward answer about what she was feeling she'd politely turn me down. Then continue like always.

posted June 30, 2015 09:09 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Have you checked the list I took the trouble to post? Does it show a prevalence of soft aspects? No.

No astrological idea has value unless it is backed by real life experience and statistics. And reality contradicts you. You are wrong in what you say, sorry.

But of course, if someone wants to believe what you believe, I can't change that.

Also, you didn't answer my questions about your synastry with the two squares you had? That would have been interesting, to see the possible source of what you experienced in those synastries; this way, you can hold your argument, by showing these otherwise perfectly "harmonious" synastries with a Moon square.

The fun part here is to discuss astrology with the actual charts.

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Yes, I did look at the list you posted. It is useless because it lacking birthtimes for a lot of them. And who the heck counts "adjacent moons" and semi-sextiles as significant aspects? Using wide orbs and "possible contacts" and insignificant aspects, you're really grasping for straws here! Sorry but, do you even astrology?

The last ex and I had squared moons in squared houses (5th and 8th), his was Sag and mine was Pisces, respectively. Before that it was moon square moon (by sign and not aspect this time) with his moon in the 11th and mine in the 8th. The last ex and I had otherwise all soft aspects to the moon; Venus sextile moon, moon trine ascendant, moon trine Mars, but there was no getting around that square and the problems REALLY only amplified immediately after we moved in together which Ami Anne did advise me not to do (I don't even like her as a human being so you can't really question my objectivity there in admitting she is right on the moon sign issue).

As I said, 75% of the problems could be attributed directly to moon sign differences; the remaining 25% were down to our Mars-Saturn conjunction and his Mars-Pluto conjunction natally. Both exes also had a Mars-Pluto hard aspect and these are not people you want to see mad.

We will have to respectfully disagree. I have also looked at about 30-40 celebrity couples (why do you think I'm always giving you new examples? And I only count the ones where the moon did NOT change signs on that day, such as the moon sign would be about 15° if you put in the generic time of noon) and the moon signs are almost always in compatible signs for long-standing couples. In fact when I can't understand why they're still together because I can't see a discernible Saturn aspect, there are always two things present to compensate; compatible moons, and a sun-Venus aspect (about half the time Pluto is present as well lending to obsession).

posted June 30, 2015 09:21 AM              

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Yes, I did look at the list you posted. It is useless because it lacking birthtimes for a lot of them. And who the heck counts "adjacent moons" and semi-sextiles as significant aspects? Using wide orbs and "possible contacts" and insignificant aspects, you're really grasping for straws here! Sorry but, do you even astrology?

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I highlighted the "Moon situation" in famous long-term couples. As you can see, half of them don't even have an aspect. This is a good sample of Moon contacts in long-term harmonious couples: you can find soft aspects, hard aspects, no aspects, in equal amount.

And you have just been rude to me a second time on this thread. You can't debate without offending, can you? the moment you are out of arguments.
These debates are supposed to help all of us learn more. I am not taking the time and energy to post here to be insulted. Being cheeky cannot cover for what you lack, Aquacheeka.
Have a nice day!

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posted June 30, 2015 09:23 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I highlighted the "Moon situation" in famous long-term couples. As you can see, half of them don't even have an aspect. This is a good sample of Moon contacts in long-term harmonious couples: you can find soft aspects, hard aspects, no aspects, in equal amount.

And you have just been rude to me a second time on this thread. You can't debate without offending, can you? the moment you are out of arguments.
These debates are supposed to help all of us learn more. I am not taking the time and energy to post here to be insulted. Being cheeky cannot cover for what you lack, Aquacheeka.
Have a nice day!

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I edited my post; please read the rest.

I will just reiterate this: "In fact, if you even just Google "moon signs lasting relationship" you will see that there is actual consensus from astrologers on the matter; you are the only one who seems to disagree."

posted June 30, 2015 09:24 AM              

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Yes, I did look at the list you posted. It is useless because it lacking birthtimes for a lot of them. And who the heck counts "adjacent moons" and semi-sextiles as significant aspects? Using wide orbs and "possible contacts" and insignificant aspects, you're really grasping for straws here! Sorry but, do you even astrology?

The last ex and I had squared moons in squared houses (5th and 8th), his was Sag and mine was Pisces, respectively. Before that it was moon square moon (by sign and not aspect this time) with his moon in the 11th and mine in the 8th. The last ex and I had otherwise all soft aspects to the moon; Venus sextile moon, moon trine ascendant, moon trine Mars, but there was no getting around that square and the problems REALLY only amplified immediately after we moved in together which Ami Anne did advise me not to do (I don't even like her as a human being so you can't really question my objectivity there in admitting she is right on the moon sign issue).

As I said, 75% of the problems could be attributed directly to moon sign differences; the remaining 25% were down to our Mars-Saturn conjunction and his Mars-Pluto conjunction natally. Both exes also had a Mars-Pluto hard aspect and these are not people you want to see mad.

We will have to respectfully disagree. I have also looked at about 30-40 celebrity couples (why do you think I'm always giving you new examples? And I only count the ones where the moon did NOT change signs on that day, such as the moon sign would be about 15° if you put in the generic time of noon) and the moon signs are almost always in compatible signs for long-standing couples. In fact when I can't understand why they're still together because I can't see a discernible Saturn aspect, there are always two things present to compensate; compatible moons, and a sun-Venus aspect (about half the time Pluto is present as well lending to obsession).

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posted June 30, 2015 09:31 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You edited. I would love to see at least 20 examples from your list, with the "compatible Moons" and also the rate of soft vs hard in your database. Much more interesting than the beginning of your post.

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posted June 30, 2015 11:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
What if two peopla have Sun conjunct moon as well as moon opposite moon in their synastry?

What a contradiction.

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i have that with my partner ...but the opposition is wide its 5 degrees, and the sun moon conjunction is exact LoL!

posted June 30, 2015 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Well there's always other things going on. We also had my Venus square her Saturn.

It seemed that she was always withholding her feelings though I pretty much knew. She wrote me goodnight messages EVERY NIGHT FOR MONTHS. Once I didn't get back for a couple of days and she was worried that she had upset me. Yet, she'd never come out direct with how she felt. (Or at least I thought she felt)

She'd sometimes tell me things, like what she did in the shower or how clean and smooth she was now. LOL
Yeah..... Hahaha
But if I tried to take it ANY further then she'd smirk and walk away.
If I got very direct and serious, asking for a forward answer about what she was feeling she'd politely turn me down. Then continue like always.

After months of this (and a few other things that I learned about her such as complaining about me to others) I felt played and betrayed.
So then I got nasty and I didn't let up being mean for 6 months exactly.

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oh i see, i dont have venus square saturn so i dont know i dont really feel exactly what you described the placement i have with my girlfriend now, BUT i do feel like saturn wants to control and be head of the household, and control exactly everything i wanna do with them, and sometimes i also feel that when i give saturn what she wants she will pull back when it comes to needs that i want sometimes, but maybe i feel this way cause of venus square pluto that we have in synastry not just mars conjunct saturn, my moon also conjunct her sun in the 7th and we have ASC conjunct ASC etc. and im the venus, she pluto so i definetely feel controlled and sometimes i feel im under her thumb when we get into arguments.

its strange how you the saturn felt that way...versus im the mars and venus and i feel the same way as YOU DO hahahaha maybe not the same but a little similar.

posted June 30, 2015 11:29 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
That's a great aspect to have and the others you describe as well.

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LeeLoo if you have time, what do you think about person a draco mercury conjunct the persons b Natal mercury, and person's b draco mercury squares the person's a natal mercury in synastry?? all exact. would this be a bad aspect?

posted July 02, 2015 05:38 AM              

Btw, MOST of the couples on YOUR list share compatible moons as well And one of the INCOMPATIBLE ones on your list that is supposed to prove that it DOESN'T matter just announced their divorce. So actually, there are now officially more examples proving my point (moon signs should be compatible for it to work long-term) than yours, in this thread.