posted April 15, 2018 05:21 PM            

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Originally posted by StillTippin:
I know this isn't an aspect but I've had this a few times and both were HORRIBLE.

4th house Uranus. Prevents you from ever staying close to that person and it can be psychologically damaging

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posted April 15, 2018 09:29 PM            

Tbh, I am okay being around Aries moons, even admiring them at times bc of their very independent personalities. But I find that I cannot get comfortable enough around them because when I do, they tend to attack me (or maybe I just feel attacked? whichever one it is, it doesn’t feel good).

Libra moons are just plain indifferent. It’s like talking to a brick wall when having deep talks with them. To them, there’s always a logical reason for everything. That’s not always a good thing.

For friendships, I can handle moon square moon. They’re great as friends. One of my closest buddies has his Libra moon exactly square mine. But I know for sure, I’m bound to flip sh*t if I was to be in a relationship with an Aries moon or Libra moon.

posted April 16, 2018 01:30 AM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Hard Mercury/Mars aspects are really bad. Someone’s always being offended.

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posted April 16, 2018 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I think it depends on the sign with that aspect. I've that in opposition with a friend and we don't really have that problem. I am Mars in pisces she is Mercury in Virgo. We get frustrated speaking to each other sometimes but it never escalates into full on offense bc we are soft people who don't really like conflict in these types of situations. We resolve things faster than it can become a problem. I guess bc her Mercury is home in Virgo?

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I’ve noticed the more “intellectual” signs have an easier time with this aspect. And the opposition waxes and wanes.

posted April 16, 2018 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by starrynight:
Maybe it's not a popular theory, but I think Moon-Sun-Venus related squares are pretty bad. When it's Mars or Saturn or even Jupiter being afflicted, you fight but you can make up, or you can fight and yet feel emotionally fine.

But a Moon-Venus square, for example: the Venus person gets annoyed when the Moon person demonstrates their feelings. It's near impossible to open up.

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I agree Starrynight. I think people put too much weight on the "hard planets" - Pluto, Mars and Saturn definitely can be intense and uncomfortable, but we often work out and learn to adjust to their energy through experiences with our parents, authority figures or other dominant individuals in our lives. By the time we're ready for a relationship, we expect to have clashes or disagreements and are usually semi-equipped to handle them - but if there are no supportive love aspects then there really isn't anything worth fighting for. Just a note - Neptune in hard aspect can lead to a lack of closure or difficulties letting go, which isn't really a deal breaker but can be a pain none the less.

posted April 17, 2018 09:28 PM            

Could you tell me about Mars square Moon.
I am the Mars Leo he is Moon in Scorpio.
How did it play out?
Anyone else with Moon square Mars experience?

The worst for me are Saturn square/opposite Mars/Moon. Me being Saturn in both cases not only once. The other person feels stupid/immature/childish

posted December 26, 2018 09:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
OMG I'm so glad you said that. Just in the nick of time. Because Odette was just saying on another thread that Cancer and Pisces moons are so clingy we won't let people go to the bathroom! !!!!!

We need some good PR work done, .

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posted December 26, 2018 11:16 PM            

Saturn square Venus
Saturn square Moon
Saturn square Mercury

Chiron square Venus

Uranus square/opposite Moon
Uranus square Mercury

Venus is more superficial than the Moon - which is your raw, core self (and being a woman, a reflection of your maternal-based feminine identity), but if afflicted by Saturn... you feel and think you're not good enough. It doesn't matter what other people see and say - you don't feel worthy. The lesson is to work toward self love - but I'm 31 and I still am not sure how I can master this.

My Uranus squares my Moon at 0 degrees.... as I've gotten older, I do sense how I react like an Aquarius Moon. I do crave closeness and to be included. I love the concept of socializing. But I don't want to see or talk or be around others all the time.

I feel closer to my friends than my own family.

I don't enjoy large crowds - especially for an extensive stretch of time. It's draining. I remember in my 20s, I lived in LA and my roommates always threw the wildest parties. Mid-way through, I would disappear.... I would simply slink off to my room and just relish being alone... as if I was recharging. I never realized other people noticed (Sun in the 5th - I can't ever hide.... people always notice when I'm late or when I'm gone lol)... but they did.

posted December 26, 2018 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
I agree Starrynight. I think people put too much weight on the "hard planets" - Pluto, Mars and Saturn definitely can be intense and uncomfortable, but we often work out and learn to adjust to their energy through experiences with our parents, authority figures or other dominant individuals in our lives. By the time we're ready for a relationship, we expect to have clashes or disagreements and are usually semi-equipped to handle them - but if there are no supportive love aspects then there really isn't anything worth fighting for. Just a note - Neptune in hard aspect can lead to a lack of closure or difficulties letting go, which isn't really a deal breaker but can be a pain none the less.

That said, I am going to contradict myself a bit here and say that imho the real killer aspects are the ones that trigger natal configurations. I think we forget that we are all unique and what poisons my tea might not poison yours so to speak. Sensitive points in the natal chart triggered by synastry can make even the coveted Sun/Moon conj an unhealthy and challenging relationship.

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This is the truth. Trigger-points "inflamed" by synastry are not a joke.

I finally ended a toxic situationship two weeks ago, after 3 years of infatuation and 1 year of gut-wrenching clarity.

I think even overlays do this... My Venus and Mercury fall into his fifth house (Pisces). We don't have a Venus/Neptune square or opposition, nor does he have a Venus/Moon affliction in his natal.... but he has heavy Neptune and escapism habits/believes what he wants to believe/is a naracist. In his progressed chart, He had Venus opposite Moon when we began to bond. And Transit Neptune is touring his 5th house.

He's my Moon. His moon conjuncts my Sun in Aries at 0 degrees. And I believed he was my twin flame.... but he is delusional. He is the text-book case of a Venus/Neptune relationships that you avoid and/or run from. Has thinks he's a victim when he made decisions and complicated his own life.

posted December 28, 2018 05:19 PM            

Blissfully painful is how I'd describe it. And, as someone said earlier, definitely "woulda, shoulda, coulda..."

The thing is being with each felt incredibly therapeutic - from pretty much first sight, it was like being smothered in a healing balm. Being with them felt cosy, nurturing, luscious.

But for one reason or another we always unintentionally ended up wounding each other at the same time. A bit like having a nurse who will tend you, and tuck you in and kiss your forehead then turn around and accidentally rip out the drip feed from your arm. We did it to each other. We never even got to the point of seriously dating because we got close when we were both in low, stressful situations, would bring relief but then make said situations ten times more unbearable. Unintentionally.

In the end she was the better person and acknowledged how toxic her situation was and handed in her notice (we were work colleagues). We had a very tender, emotive phonecall then said our goodbyes with her promising once she'd sorted herself out she'd come back (I know the company would be glad to have her again) when an appropriate vacancy appeared.

posted January 04, 2019 10:02 AM            

Most of my best female friends throughout my life have had their Moon squaring mine, always in Aquarius too which is funny.

I can't say any of these friendships were ever totally easy. I went through rough patches with most of them - usually a period of crises where we had a major clash in opinion. The friendship always recovered though, because instead of throwing it away there was always the pull to resolve things and make it better.

With men, I am only exclusively attracted to earth Moons it seems (I have been in relationships with all 3). My current and strongest love is with a Taurus Moon (opposite mine). I definitely agree the pull is still there even with the opposition, as the fixed Moon affinity is very much present, and we find a lot of same things emotionally comforting (security, stability...).

I can't say this is totally easy either, as sometimes I find him a little dry where he might find me overly emotional. Still though he is my rock and he is ALWAYS there to comfort me when I am down.

posted January 08, 2019 10:21 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
My Scorpio Moon is part of a kite in my chart and only well-aspected, yet I only seem to attract hard aspects to my Moon in synastry.

Most of my best female friends throughout my life have had their Moon squaring mine, always in Aquarius too which is funny.

I can't say any of these friendships were ever totally easy. I went through rough patches with most of them - usually a period of crises where we had a major clash in opinion. The friendship always recovered though, because instead of throwing it away there was always the pull to resolve things and make it better.

With men, I am only exclusively attracted to earth Moons it seems (I have been in relationships with all 3). My current and strongest love is with a Taurus Moon (opposite mine). I definitely agree the pull is still there even with the opposition, as the fixed Moon affinity is very much present, and we find a lot of same things emotionally comforting (security, stability...).

I can't say this is totally easy either, as sometimes I find him a little dry where he might find me overly emotional. Still though he is my rock and he is ALWAYS there to comfort me when I am down.

Long story short...I have no idea why I am drawn to "hard" Moon aspects in my relationships (sucker for punishment maybe?) but I would definitely describe them as growth-oriented, and not necessarily "impossible." It depends on what you want.

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when it comes to relationships though you arrn't drawn to squares.
Oppositions are not like squares.

I have a friend too that our Moons square each other I wouldn't want to live with someone like her by any means.. When she is in my home she drives me crazy.. Moon shows how someone is in his home.

I wonder if you like other water Moons and about the rest of your chart.

I think someone must have difficult moon aspects natally in order to be able to handle hard moon aspects in synastry.
Or.. if you have lets say Scorpio Moon and the rest of your planets are in air signs I could see how you can be attracted to an air Moon.. still it wouldn't be that fullfilling for your Scorpio Moon though.

posted January 09, 2019 11:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
when it comes to relationships though you arrn't drawn to squares.
Oppositions are not like squares.

I have a friend too that our Moons square each other I wouldn't want to live with someone like her by any means.. When she is in my home she drives me crazy.. Moon shows how someone is in his home.

I wonder if you like other water Moons and about the rest of your chart.

I think someone must have difficult moon aspects natally in order to be able to handle hard moon aspects in synastry.
Or.. if you have lets say Scorpio Moon and the rest of your planets are in air signs I could see how you can be attracted to an air Moon.. still it wouldn't be that fullfilling for your Scorpio Moon though.

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This is true. Living with them might be a different story...like I said, even friendship with them can be challenging at times.

I definitely do feel a sense of ease around water Moons I aspect. I just haven't felt drawn to one enough to enter into a romantic relationship with I guess.

posted June 01, 2019 11:27 AM            

My views toward “hard aspects” and “soft aspects” are now along the line of LeeLoo’s. I don’t agree with the premise of this thread. Astrology is not black and white, nothing in life is black and white. There are no “bad aspects” only aspects that don’t work well for your chart at that moment in time. The power of the natal should never be discounted.

I cannot name any aspects I find “bad” or “hard.” I can give you a list of people, but I can’t attribute our difficulty to an aspect(s).

My relationships have shown me that synastry aspects are not the end-all, not even close. I find I am comptabile with those that mirror my natal (similar natal planetary aspects between planets regardless of aspect) and who resemble an energy that I like.

I am a Pisces moon that has a propensity for attracting (both relationships and friendships) quincunx (Leo), square or opposite moons (Virgo). I know no one that has a comptabile moon with my Pisces moon. I have no “hard” aspects to my moon in natal. What have I found?

posted June 02, 2019 07:41 PM            

MERCURY SQUARE MERCURY

SATURN SQUARE MOON

SATURN SQUARE MARS

SATURN SQUARE VENUS

There are many negative synastry aspects, but these are so powerfully bad they can have the power to destroy a relationship even if all the other aspects between you are great!

posted March 26, 2022 09:56 PM            

I chalk it up to Vertex, Chiron, and IC aspects mostly, plus Mercury.

Hard aspects:
We have DW Jupiter opposite Mercury, which I would not have guessed was bad, but I loathe his communication style and I'm sure he hates mine.
My Mercury/Juno, conjunct his Venus/IC, forms a T-square with his Mars opp our generational Neptune/Uranus conjunction.
My Saturn opp his Chiron
My Pluto opp his moon
My MC/IC square his Nodes
His Saturn square my Vertex
Each of our suns is squared by an asteroid of the other's (my Pallas, his Vesta)
His Jupiter also squares my Ascendant (but my ascendant conjuncts his Juno?)
My Vesta opp his Mercury
His Nessus squares my Ceres

Conjunctions:
His Vesta / my Lilith
His Mercury / my MC
His Ceres / my Mars
His Venus/IC / my Mercury/Juno
His Juno / my Ascendant
His Vertex / my Chiron - I feel that one strongly!
His Pluto / my Vertex