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Still_Hopeful
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posted January 03, 2011 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Moon addicted to pluto. I think 4 degree could work,with luminaries anything is possible. "
I would rather not, lol
I do not want to be addicted to anybody.

What about Pluto Conjunct North Node(NN)?

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posted January 03, 2011 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Glaucus
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Don't you think Pluto has a harder time to let go? To give up control, rather than moon?

I think that it depends on the aspects to the Pluto person's Pluto

There are other factors too like the level of one's security,self esteem

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posted January 03, 2011 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 03, 2011 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
"Moon addicted to pluto. I think 4 degree could work,with luminaries anything is possible. "
I would rather not, lol
I do not want to be addicted to anybody.

What about Pluto Conjunct North Node(NN)?


Pluto conjunct NN? I don't think i am eloquent and experienced enough to try to explain it.
It sounds attractive and tenebrous at the same time.

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posted January 03, 2011 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus, LOL
Well... now I am a PLUTO! background: Still_Hopeful sinister laugh

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staborgi
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posted January 03, 2011 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious what it's like for a man to feel his Moon aspecting significant others' Pluto. I have a feeling I know what it's like...I've had this in synastry a few times being the Pluto. I've also had it in a composite, and I've read women tend to tune into the energy of the Moon so maybe I do know what it's like...still though, I wonder if there's a difference in how we handle these energies based on gender and relationships to our parents. In any case, the relationship where Moon/Pluto were conjunct in the composite was amazing sexually. I was seriously addicted. All I wanted was to hold him/be held by him all the time. I didn't even need sexual gratification it was more about intimacy. I felt like he got to the very bottom of me somehow and I felt renewed. I started to act really irrationally just out of wanting to be in his presence. When we stopped seeing each other I felt hysterical and crazed, couldn't get a handle on myself at all and felt really out of control.

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posted January 03, 2011 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

"The tragedy of sexual intercourse is the perpetual virginity of the soul" Yeats
Moon/Pluto is about intimacy.

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posted January 03, 2011 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also- can anyone shed any light on the possibilities of this--

in a romantic relationship- my Scorp Pluto exactly square his Aqua Moon, but in the Draco- his Moon shifts into Scorpio and his conjunct my Pluto.

My Moon also ends up opposite his Saturn/Pluto in the Draconic so it goes both ways. The aforementioned is what I'm super curious about though...

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posted January 03, 2011 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami- SUCH a beautiful quote. Thanks for sharing

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mir
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posted January 03, 2011 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto can't let go ..
Pluto is always the one coming back, after a fight or break up.
Pluto has no control about this moment of return.
Pluto in a way KNOWS that it isn't weakness to go back and make the first move.
Pluto understands the words of the Moon when she's admitting that she's too proud for making this move but for Pluto 'proudness' is a complete waste of time..
Etc.


Well, this was me and *I* was Pluto TRINE his Moon... (orb 1)

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posted January 03, 2011 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Pluto can't let go ..
Pluto is always the one coming back, after a fight or break up.
Pluto has no control about this moment of return.
Pluto in a way KNOWS that it isn't weakness to go back and make the first move.
Pluto understands the words of the Moon when she's admitting that she's too proud for making this move but for Pluto 'proudness' is a complete waste of time..
Etc.


Well, this was me and *I* was Pluto TRINE his Moon... (orb 1)



hmmmm

What natal Pluto aspects do you have?

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posted January 03, 2011 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we can feel the Pluto differently.. But also the same... I have been paying alot more attention to what me and pisces do..

Pluto for me, has made be obsessed about him..
(its true.. lol) I do also feel like he could totally change my life.. In ways he has, Im not the same person I was a year ago..

For him (from my observations) Its's made him very paranoid about me.. Always making accusations towards me... I think he also feels the power struggle.. Its like he's saying Im in control, Im controlling this.. I have the say.. I think he feels like he would loose his power with me. So he's doing everything he can to stay in control..
I think he's freaking out inside just as much as me... lol....

What both of us fear is the lost of the other one, but only when the other person seems to pull away..
It takes him 3 days to come to me, when I pull away... But this is if I dont give any eye contact, dont say hi.. Totally ignore him...

I did this last week, I was feeling the need to escape.... By Wed he was passing by my desk at least 3x and he brought me my mail (which he rarely does) he also brought me a package I recieved, 2 different times on the same day.. Even though the packages come together...
Each time I said thanks, took the stuff and went back to working...
By Thursday.. I was walking in from lunch, he saw me, I didnt make eye contact, I didnt aknowledge him.. He was talking to the guys.. (this is common, but it was going on all week, so idk I guess he felt it...
He made a HUGE scene to get my attention..
He YELLED HIIIIII LIONESSSSSSS (it echoed nesssss nessss nessss)(my name though..lol) I barely looked and waived my hand up...

After that I started to feel really really bad, so I texted him... Have a happy new year.. He replied back u too be safe xoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxo.... Then bammmm eveythings fine again... lol

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posted January 03, 2011 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto is within 1* on my Sun/Moon midpoint,
sextile Venus
sextile Jupiter
sextile Neptune.

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posted January 03, 2011 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this..

Composite Moon Conjunct Pluto:

The fate of this relationship will hinge upon how well the two of you can handle the depths of feeling
and the level of emotional intensity that you will evoke in one another. Powerful feelings of
attachment and neediness and dependency on one or both of your parts will arise, and you could
become incredibly close... or overwhelmed by such feelings. A strong desire for children (whether or
not such desires can be fulfilled in the context of your relationship and/or other life plans) is also a
significant issue.
This will not be a superficial encounter! A certain intensity, which at times may feel impulsive or
irresistible, infuses your bond. Along with this there is prone to be a lot of probing, soul searching,
and deep analysis going on. Many irrational, childish emotions and needs are stimulated between you,
which you'll have to delve deeply into in order to understand!
One of the purposes of your coming together is to dredge up unresolved emotional business and
psychic blockages, in order to understand, heal, and ultimately be free of them.

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posted January 03, 2011 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Venus, LOL
Well... now I am a PLUTO! background: Still_Hopeful sinister laugh

Play NICE

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posted January 03, 2011 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natally I have Moon conjunct Pluto less than a degree and that is conjunct the Scorpio woman's Moon conjunct Pluto (both in Libra). I've loved her since childhood from the first moment I met her. The quote about the tragedy of intercourse and it the conjunction being more about intamacy and it being about soulful love is VERY true. It transcends sex. You feel the other person IS you. You feel you two are one and when holding each other its like a literal bonding of the souls.

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Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

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Lioness
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posted January 03, 2011 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Got Gemini??:
Natally I have Moon conjunct Pluto less than a degree and that is conjunct the Scorpio woman's Moon conjunct Pluto (both in Libra). I've loved her since childhood from the first moment I met her. The quote about the tragedy of intercourse and it the conjunction being more about intamacy and it being about soulful love is VERY true. It transcends sex. You feel the other person IS you. You feel you two are one and when holding each other its like a literal bonding of the souls.


Ahhh.. That was beautiful!
Yes I do feel that way also.. I do feel he is me.. I feel we are the same
Which is part of the reason I just cant get mad at him, its as if I would be mad at myself...

I also think its EXTREMELY karmic.. There is a lesson here, I have yet to figured it out, but I know there's a lesson...

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posted January 03, 2011 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a question for everyone that has a Moon/Pluto relationship with someone..

Does it seem like your lives are similar or some how intertwined..

Or is this someone you have know for years and years, then one day it just happen.. The bond the closeness.?

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posted January 03, 2011 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lioness:
I have a question for everyone that has a Moon/Pluto relationship with someone..

Does it seem like your lives are similar or some how intertwined..

Or is this someone you have know for years and years, then one day it just happen.. The bond the closeness.?


We met out of blue. I felt the urge to talk to him. Think i could recognize him even with millions of people around me. Corny movie situations:he'd finish my sentences. Leo in me wasn't pleased

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posted January 04, 2011 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Moon conjunct Pluto in Scorpio in the synastry with my boyfriend, with me being the Pluto.

It's definitely how everyone describes- intense, otherworldly, intoxicating, bonding... I feel that he is a part of me. Quite literally I feel that he is my "other half," as if we were divided within each other and made to be parts of the same whole. It's difficult to explain this sensation, but it does feel as if we complete one another (at least to me). Like yin and yang, if you will...

Our fights are intense. We're not a very peaceful couple, and it doesn't help that we both have pretty bad tempers, but our reunions are just as intense. Everything we experience together seems magnified, whether good or bad. When we're happy together, we are just absolutely, deliriously happy!! Nothing could tear us apart!... It's a bit of a roller coaster at times but I don't mind it too much. I require an intense, binding connection like that to keep me interested and happy. It's the most intense relationship I've ever experienced.

Lioness,

We met a few years ago, and I swear I was in love with him from the beginning. Something about him drew me like a moth to a flame. For the longest time, I couldn't quite pinpoint it... it wasn't just his looks, or his personality/demeanor... it was something much deeper... his soul.

I pursued him, but to no avail. It wasn't until just under a year ago, that we finally realized that we have to be together, and yes, it was VERY out of the blue. He contacted me one day on facebook, quite suddenly... we talked for a few months, and then he asked me to move in with him. BAM!

We also have in synastry:

Pluto Opposition Venus
Pluto Sextile Venus
Venus trine Sun
Venus conjunct AC
Moon conjunct DC

in composite:

Pluto trine Sun, Moon, Venus, Mercury
Venus conjunct Sun

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posted January 04, 2011 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Add me on FB ,Lioness
Thank you ,Sweetie

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posted January 04, 2011 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for squirrel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did anyone experience Moon quincunx Pluto in synastry?

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posted January 04, 2011 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok LL peeps.. I need your opinion's.

Here is the sabian symobls for the moon/Pluto in our composite.. Please tell me what you think it means

Composite
moon at 08Lib07
Pluto at 09Lib37

The Moon Sabian 9Lib

PHASE 189 (LIBRA 9): THREE "OLD MASTERS" HANGING ON THE WALL OF A SPECIAL ROOM IN AN ART GALLERY.

KEYNOTE: The need to return to source during a confused search for new value in a chaotic society.

There are always moments which focus in our minds the longing to re-ground ourselves in the great achievements of the past. The number 3 suggests completeness; esoteric traditions speak of the three-fold Soul, or of three fundamental "Rays" of Power, of Love-Wisdom, and of Intelligence-in-action. Meditation, in its deepest sense, is a return to Source an attempt to re-identify oneself with one's archetypal essence of being, which is triune in manifestation, and now) after confused but challenging wanderings, to identify oneself consciously with this "essence." The finer forms of one's culture provide the means to do this. The great moments of the collective past become an inspiration for new, yet sound, beginnings. The seed of tomorrow salutes the seed of yesteryear.

At this fourth stage of the thirty-eighth sequence it is suggested that in the process of "Transfiguration" the presence of the greatest moments of the past is called upon, as Moses and Elijah were invoked in Jesus' Transfiguration. The seed of the new day depends upon the seed of yesteryear for an experience of the cyclic continuity of spirit. This is the basis for the institutionalized ideal of APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION, the guruampara (an uninterrupted chain of gurus) of Indian tradition.

Pluto Sabian 10Lib

HAVING PASSED SAFELY THROUGH NARROW RAPIDS, A CANOE REACHES CALM WATERS.

KEYNOTE: The self-control and poise necessary to reach a steady state of inner stability.

This symbol hardly needs to be commented upon. It could be related to the fifth symbol of the preceding five-fold sequence referring to guru-chela relationship at the actional level. Here we are dealing essentially with the emotional life and its crises. At the next mental and individual level, the concluding symbol will suggest the perfect and smooth working of the intellect ruled by logic and simplicity of means.

This is the fifth stage of the thirty-eighth sequence; it concludes what was begun at the first stage. The inner "revelation" which brought about dramatic confrontations can now be meditated upon as it is reflected on the calm waters of the mind. As a Keyword one may use the term RELIEF.
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Also in the Composite Venus is Opposite Moon/Pluto
Venus is at 9Aries26

PHASE 10 (ARIES 10): A TEACHER GIVES NEW SYMBOLIC FORMS TO TRADITIONAL IMAGES.

KEYNOTE: Revision of attitude at the beginning of a new cycle of experience.

This phase is the fifth of the second five-fold sequence, and in it we find expressed the capacity to restate the problem inherent in the first phase, i.e. the problem of focusing one's energies upon emotional drives and cultural values which exclude far more than they include. The subsequent stages of development taken together have added considerably to this attitude; as a result, there arises in the consciousness a desire to reformulate at a new level much that had been taken for granted because it indeed originally had been an evolutionary necessity. The very concrete emotion-arousing images of the past can now be reinterpreted as "symbols" with a wider scope of meaning.

At this fifth stage a new dimension of consciousness is discovered, revealing higher possibilities of experience and mental development. This is a phase of ABSTRACTION and of emotional allegiance.

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posted January 04, 2011 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well,lioness,u r story with pisces became sooo epic and cuz gods know how to party,they put another man in ur way... The Great Triangle!!! U three inspired many painters... So,there u r,hangin on the wall in gallery

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posted January 04, 2011 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Well,lioness,u r story with pisces became sooo epic and cuz gods know how to party,they put another man in ur way... The Great Triangle!!! U three inspired many painters... So,there u r,hangin on the wall in gallery

WAIT!!! Hey can you explain this more...
Actually that is what "sort of happen"
At the same time I started to talk with Pisces, I also started to talk to a Leo.. Only we are very good friends, he's like a brother to me, BUT Pisces wont believe it, he thinks I with him, when I wasnt...
I did start talking to both of them 1 day apart...

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