posted March 05, 2007 03:07 PM         

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Is the English language really so difficult that Randall is now being accused of being biased in handing down his opinion on this matter?

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I don't believe anyone's grasp of the English language is in question to be honest jwhop. Neither is the 'handing down' of one's opinion... curious choice of phrase by the way; in English, the correct phraseology would actually be "offering one's opinion" - it has less overbearing connotations you see, because an opinion is something one ‘presents’ to another rather than ‘imposes’ upon them. However, here endeth the English lesson for today.

posted March 05, 2007 03:54 PM         

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Could also explain why I'm engaging Jwhop lately. (Who incidentally has an unaspected Mars in Aries)...acoustic

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I don't know if you're just a slow learner or perhaps you're a masochist acoustic.

The last time you dropped my name in a thread where I wasn't posting you were engaged in a display of out of control arrogance. There you were acoustic, browbeating other members about "how they are". Not "how they are" based on anything they said or did...but "how they are" based on their Moon nodes.

Imagine the total arrogance of arguing with someone and demanding they accept your opinion of "how they are"..based on their Nodes. Of course acoustic, they were not at all amused.

You carried on and made it even worse by misrepresenting what Jan Spiller had to say about the Nodes of the Moon. It didn't matter that lalalinda 'splained it to you over and over...and over and over and over.

I suppose no one should have been surprised when you carried your arrogance to new heights by suggesting lalalinda wasn't qualified to teach astrology on this site....because she disagreed with your interpretations about the Nodes...and what you were misrepresenting to be Jan Spiller's interpretations.

So acoustic, you're feeling a little aggressive are you?

"Could also explain why I'm engaging Jwhop lately"

Is this where you were pausing for the anticipated applause acoustic?

You are as right about my "unaspected Mars in Aries" as you were with your nonsense about the Moons Nodes.

My Mars in Aries "trines" my Leo Sun and Leo Moon.

posted March 05, 2007 04:01 PM         

I do however remember the entire sordid affair.

Further, I adore liberals. Leftists are an entirely different matter. Leftists, the self appointed champions of free speech are forever attempting to shut people up who disagree with them...like you're attempting now.

No sale BlueRoamer. Kindred Spirits became an issue...again..when Johnny resurrected it...after it had been indecently buried for months.

posted March 05, 2007 04:09 PM         

Should I says thanks Jwhop!!!!

posted March 05, 2007 04:30 PM         

Since you're a reasonable person Cardinalgal we can have a reasonable conversation about why I phrased my comment as I did....the correct way, I might add, considering all the factors.

This from Johnny's missive to Randall:

"It is my feeling that these attacks violate the rules of this site, and that they are harming the sense of community that has developed here. It is a shame when one member is allowed to drive off those who disagree with her, and others are forced to stand by helplessly. Thus, I felt the need to inform you, in the hopes that you will review the matter and intervene if you feel it is appropriate."

Notice Cardinalgal, Johnny wasn't asking for Randall's opinion. Johnny asked Randall to judge this matter and intervene as he found appropriate.

In view of the fact Randall is both judge and jury in matters concerning appropriate LL
behavior, "handing down his opinion" would seem to be most appropriate.

Further, I noticed Randall used "all". Unless I'm misreading what Randall meant, that would include Lotus.

Your concern that Lotus received favorable treatment would seem to be unfounded. She received the very same treatment as everyone else...in my opinion.

posted March 05, 2007 05:31 PM         

A webmaster who claims he doesn't care who, (from this forum) stays or goes, is, in my opinion, shocking. It smacks of bad attitude.

It is also a lie, as I'm sure Randall does have those he is fond of and those he is not fond of also.....

If I don't get chucked off of this forum for voicing my honest opinion, then I hope some of the recent nastiness has cleared up by the time I return (end of merc rx).

posted March 05, 2007 05:47 PM         

Thank you for your tremendously kind appraisal of me as “a reasonable person.” I think I shall have that carved into my headstone! And a heart!! I’m quite breathless you old charmer you!

However I’m afraid you’re still grammatically incorrect in your use of English in this case. If Randall is ‘both judge and jury’ then any response he made to Johnny’s entreaty should have been referred to as his “passing judgement.” But I digress... as usual!

Now then, re Lotus: what I said was “as Randall was critical of those who he felt had insulted Lotus, I hoped that he had also spoken to Lotus about her conduct, so as to be fair. You see if he hasn't, then that could be said to be bias.”

And what Randall said was “When you insult Lotus (in support of Sue), you just do what you accuse her of- making all of you in the wrong.” I have selected the words in the sentence which implied to me that he wasn’t including Lotus in this reproach. He doesn’t acknowledge her bad behaviour himself – he refers to it as something that she’s being 'accused of,' implying that as far as he’s concerned, it’s not yet proven. I’m sorry to labour the point so painstakingly but I felt it important to demonstrate the reason I felt it necessary to ask him if he’d treated Lotus to the same admonition. I do hope you understand Jwhop – I feel certain you will, as you too are a reasonable person.

posted March 05, 2007 05:48 PM         

You seem to be upset at my use of the word ‘bias.’ I do apologise if I’ve upset or offended you and hopefully the above reply to Jwhop will explain my reasons.

You said:
"And AG's harsh remarks against Lalalinda is in the same league as what Lotus is being accused of."

Well if we're naming names and giving examples of harsh remarks, then I’m sure (as we’re old sparring partners,) Jwhop won’t mind me mentioning that his own methods of debate sometimes appear to leave a great deal to be desired in the "courteous and respectful" department. And I'm quoting the words (which I assume are yours?) from the front page of this very site.

It says :
"You are free to speak your Minds about anything, but please, use no profanity or personal insults.
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There will be no censorship here, and freedom of expression and speech rules supreme, but please be courteous and respectful of others while doing so. Linda had a talent for speaking her Mind without offending others. Let's try to do likewise. She was very opinionated, and when we debate with each other in a loving manner, we do her name justice. Peace, Light, and Love to all."

posted March 05, 2007 06:02 PM         

Do I post a rebuttal to quite a bit of dishonesty, or do I just accept a few cheap shots for the sake of the peace?

If I rebut Jwhop, then he'll want to split hairs.

posted March 05, 2007 06:29 PM         

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Do I post a rebuttal to quite a bit of dishonesty, or do I just accept a few cheap shots for the sake of the peace?

If I rebut Jwhop, then he'll want to split hairs.

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You don't need to rebut anything, AG. Your true character continually shines through - as does the character of others, for better or worse. And, in regard to the other thing... like they say, the whole world can believe a foolish thing, but it will still be a foolish thing.

The amount of insidiousness in some of the posts above is astounding to me. I'm starting to believe that my regard for some people on this site that I (highly) respected has been misplaced. I guess, just because a site is named after a person, it doesn't necessarily reflect her teachings. Whatever your position, I don't think there's any doubt Linda would not be proud about having her name attached to this.

I regret bringing up KS now; I wanted to make a point that this issue was long-standing and drastic enough to make people want to leave LL. Guess *that* didn't work. I apologize to those of you who would have liked to see this stay buried. Stupid mistake on my part; I talk too much...

However, I stand by everything else.

posted March 05, 2007 08:11 PM         

TALENTS/ PROFESSION-------10th House, Professional issues not personality traits
"These people excel at being the "boss," so management, public speaking, politics, and entrepreneurship are good choices for them. Others are willing to cooperate with their goals, since they approach people under their authority with sensitivity. To achieve success in any area, these folks need to be "in charge" of their own piece of the puzzle."

10th House issues acoustic, not personality traits
"when they use this ability in a management situation their sensitivity encourages people to assist them with goodwill and enthusiasm. However, if they involve themselves in professions that stress nurturing as the end result, they often become enmeshed in feelings of helplessness, unable to get "on top" of the situation. They are better off in goal-oriented professions or positions that enable them to use their sensitivity to lovingly organize others to work toward a specific goal."

10th House issues acoustic. Not personality traits
"If Capricorn North Node people were to manage their families the way they run businesses, their family life would be extremely successful. In fact, they are expert managers because they have a natural understanding of people and can gently align others to cooperate in reaching the goal in ways that don't hurt anyone's feelings."

Considering the way your were browbeating other members acoustic over something you are clueless about..."how they are", I thought lalalinda showed a lot of patience with you...for a long while anyway

That said, I would tend to think Capricorn North Node people fear professional/business world/employment failure above all others.

posted March 05, 2007 08:22 PM         

turns to say...Randall, I hear ya maaan,

Moonchild- Weird thread? Me thinks that too, lol

Johnny---whoa, what do you mean you talk to much? Just kiddin with ya, couldn't resist, runs back and takes cover, lol

posted March 05, 2007 08:35 PM         

Admit it acoustic, you were wrong and lalalinda was right.

Laid out clearly before you acoustic but still you won't admit it. Laid out from Jan Spilling's own writings...which you quoted.

Bluff and bluster won't work with me. You have 10th house issues acoustic due to your Capricorn North Node. I have Sun, Moon, Mercury and Pluto in my 10th House.

posted March 05, 2007 08:37 PM         

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Randall, if you're going to defend Lotus's right to say and do whatever she feels about Sue G,

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posted March 05, 2007 08:41 PM         

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In view of the fact Randall is both judge and jury in matters concerning appropriate LL
behavior, "handing down his opinion" would seem to be most appropriate.

Further, I noticed Randall used "all". Unless I'm misreading what Randall meant, that would include Lotus.

Your concern that Lotus received favorable treatment would seem to be unfounded. She received the very same treatment as everyone else...in my opinion.

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posted March 05, 2007 08:48 PM         

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Admit it acoustic, you were wrong and lalalinda was right.

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Jan Spiller wasn't wrong, and neither was my characterization of her work.

You are the one posturing here, and it really is rather pathetic. This chapter is 34 pages long in Word, so how much did you post? Even within what you posted lies the truth of what I said:

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"when they use this ability in a management situation their sensitivity encourages people to assist them with goodwill and enthusiasm. However, if they involve themselves in professions that stress nurturing as the end result, they often become enmeshed in feelings of helplessness, unable to get "on top" of the situation. They are better off in goal-oriented professions or positions that enable them to use their sensitivity to lovingly organize others to work toward a specific goal."

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Here's a more specific quote, which will make you look absolutely absurd for pursuing this:

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From past lives, these natives developed tremendous emotional sensitivity. When they take a moment to "tune in" to the emotional states of others, they accurately understand other people's needs and concerns and can speak to them in a way that rallies the necessary mental and emotional support to reach the goal. They do this automatically, although it is a gift that most other people do not possess.

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That isn't an issue. It's an inborn trait. Like I said, anyone that can read can comprehend the futility of your and Lalalinda's arguments.

posted March 05, 2007 09:13 PM         

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And Johnny, when you get tired of kissing AG's butt for public display, then we can move on to more fruitful pursuits.

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Listen, if you want to ban me, go right ahead - I won't sneak back in. But trying to provoke me with infantile little jabs is a little beneath the administrator of Linda-Goodman.com, isn't it? I don't think I've been anything less than respectful to you, as I appreciate what you've done for this site and this community.

Seriously, though. I thought you were bigger than that.

"Kissing AG's butt." That's funny; I see quite a bit of butt-kissing in this thread, and most of it is directed at you.