posted October 26, 2008 07:18 PM         

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posted October 26, 2008 07:23 PM         

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NN conjunct Saturn please tell me, I did not see, what I see.

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posted October 26, 2008 07:25 PM         

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your aspects with Christian are really outstanding. Wow.

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Yeah, I know. Not sure what to make of that. The synastry with RDJ shows kinship - two people alike. The synastry with Christian reflects a more partner feel. Which basically supports how I feel towards them. I can't see RDJ as my other half. I mean, I don't.

posted October 26, 2008 07:28 PM         

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I nearly fell of my chair when I first read that earlier this morning. Because..... THAT is precisely how I have seen this play out. Meta was in a place of privelige with him. I assumed wife - chosen wife - as in arranged, perhaps. Maybe she really loved him and had that feeling that she could never quite get close enough to him - he wouldn't let her in - and it spills over to this lifetime where she still wants to probe him (and heal him).

Sorry meta - we'll just talk about you like you're not here for a moment. Sheesh! Feel free to join in and help us work out your past. What do you get? But, quite honestly, I don't know if you have the detachment necessary to see what's there when it comes to Rafe.

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I don't know what to say. I don't know if i cn be objective.

I don't feel that our relationship was father/daughter or relative-like. I think that my romantic attraction is too evident to think it could have been.

DD, you did say Venus/Karma indicates past romance, right?

I don't know how to think of what our past may have been like. I don't want to think he wasn't in love with me, which is how i will take it if he took advantage of the two of you. Any action physically, or sexually towards someone else would ruin me. As would it end me if there was no action but there were feelings and desires to act.

Plus there is that matter that i get along with you two. How would that be possible if i was the misses and you were the servants? The servants who he had sex with, for that matter?

Maybe i found out what he did with you two and offed myself. I can see that. I think, in all seriousness, that would have been likely.

posted October 26, 2008 07:34 PM         

I look at Ralph and I in a very (this will sound stupid, but..) Wuthering Heights way. I am Heathcliff and he is Cathy.

Now, i don't see our story playing out the way theirs did (she married someone else for selfish status reasons instead of marrying the man she loved). I see it as i was/am the aggressor wanting to attain this spiritual, soul-fusing connection and he wants it too, but is very frightened. Taken aback almost.

So maybe the issue is that in the past life he DIDN'T bind himself to me in this way, and now THIS life i'm looking for him to do it.

posted October 26, 2008 09:32 PM         

Here's Rafe Spall, with his dad, Timothy

posted October 26, 2008 10:21 PM         

Koi - excellent choice. Jennifer Garner is very attractive. I think Ben Affleck is too. Both her Mars and Venus are conj my Venus, trine my Moon/Pluto, opp Neptune, Sextile my ASC/Jupiter. No wonder I like her.

I've often wondered about natal Venus conj Mars. From what I can gather, it's a bit of an attractive aspect.

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Meta - you have Aqu Moon, Tau Moon - probably leads to gender bending and "odd" looking chicks.

I went to the cinema on Friday night with a friend that came to stay with me. She chose a film and the film was...

The Duchess.

Why I have to watch *another* Rafe film I don't know.

Well the film was OK, a bit plotless. Best kept as its original book, very psychological.

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Rafe played his character well, a cold Duke who had affairs with other women (more interested in his pet dogs) and would not let his wife (Keira Knightley) get involved with one she loved. His character raped her to bear a son. He also made her live with his lover, which was her best friend. They had this relationship until they died. True story.

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So, I read some of PA's stuff and difficulties with him and I don't have a direct/personal feeling like him. However, he yet again played a cold, soulless character. I'm yet to experience "The Three Words" and I'd say that he didn't do too well in that? Please let me know what you think.

I really don't know if his selection of these roles has to do with what is within and he simply plays himself. Or has he just pegged himself as a character actor. The one time that I did see him in that interview a few weeks back, he was warmer and nicer. I have to watch more footage of him. Maybe it's just the cold master Saturn coming through.

By the way, my friend agreed on the sentiments of the film and Rafe in general.

As for ASC, still think he is Virgo ASC. Seeing him in the film just supported that. Still working on the dwad, maybe Sco dwad ---> 5-7.5 deg. Try that.

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Sean Bean - thinking he's more Cap rising, the jaw is very cap. The eyes can be slightly upturned like other Caps but they are too thin which kind of points to Aries (which I don't think he is notwithstanding his sexy ability to wear military), Sco (nah, not frowny enough) or Cancer ( hmmm, maybe? )

Could be Tau as suggested. I have to think about it more and watch him. I'm not too goo with Tau risings I noticed, haven't seen enough of them.

posted October 26, 2008 10:27 PM         

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Dogma is such a smart movie. I love it. Brilliant and hilarious. And so on the mark.

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posted October 26, 2008 10:44 PM         

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I`ve never seen you that way. Actually I thought I was pestering YOU with my questions about Eros, remember?

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Really?? you don't pester me at all I'm always pestering you!

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t`s just sometimes, that it gets a bit much. Not you, but recently I`ve looked at quite some synastries, and don`t get me wrong I LOVE doing this, or otherwise I wouldn`T do it, but there is always so little time. That is the only reason my answer may take some time. But hey, I am learning with every new synastry I can look at and if it is helping someone else, well all the better.

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Yes I feel it too, not as extreme as you but feel that there is so much stuff going up on the boards and in Godzala that I can't keep up especially since I haven't been on here the last week.

posted October 26, 2008 10:45 PM         

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"don't think I'll do much with my appearance and no I'm not his type physically"
How do you know that?

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The reason why I said that is that his Saturn squares my Jupiter and ASC (my Jup conj ASC, his Saturn also squares my Moon). He might at least feel intimidated by my projection/appearance, maybe he feels that he has to tone down the very hot and inflated projection that I might put out out. Unfortunately astro x-files has gone on holiday and can't see what they wrote about this aspect. Cafe Astrology rates it as a -2.

I had a boss once of JT's vintage and checked his ephemerides and his Saturn was square all these things. We got along reasonably well with the moments of occasional frustration. I don't think my appearance was an issue (but his Sun was on my ASC) but I do remember that he said that I was moody. Everyone else there just thought I was angry, maybe he did as well

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"Otherwise, we have his kite where my unaspected Venus sits at the "arrow" point with his Jupiter which is the positive thing."
That is pretty awesome. This Venus / Jupiter-occultion becomes the point everything is pointing to, it will be very much in the focus, and how nice that it is such a great great aspect.

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posted October 26, 2008 10:47 PM         

Interesting about the Part of Reincarnation. I must check that up. My reincarnation has minimal contact with things in his chart except opp his BML and my second name. His is conj my Chiron. Oh and my Nessus is 3 deg from his Sun/my name in his chart, 4 from Venus/BML, 3 opp his Jupiter. Yes I'm a freak?

posted October 27, 2008 03:49 AM         

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I don't know what to say. I don't know if i cn be objective.

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Yeah, I don't know. I guess we'll just have to see how we go. I'm not knocking you, just saying that you very definitely see him in a particular way and you're very passionate and fixed on that. And that's just where you need to be with him for whatever reason.

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I don't feel that our relationship was father/daughter or relative-like. I think that my romantic attraction is too evident to think it could have been.

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Yeah, I agree with that. Otherwise, if he was your father of father figure then he'd have some serious explaining to do and no amount of explaining can be held on that one. But, you know, maybe you were his much younger wife and that's what we're getting there - that there was a very large age gap. I think that you were arranged for him.

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Plus there is that matter that i get along with you two. How would that be possible if i was the misses and you were the servants? The servants who he had sex with, for that matter?

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Yes we get along - quite easily actually. So I'm thinking maybe you were emphatic to us because you understood that he was abusing his power. It wasn't consensual by any means - it was very forceful. He was very wilful.

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Maybe i found out what he did with you two and offed myself. I can see that. I think, in all seriousness, that would have been likely.

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Yes, I think any woman would empathise with another no matter her relation or feelings to the man. That's inexcusable and dispicable behaviour.

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What do you think? I don't know if i answered your question...

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posted October 27, 2008 03:49 AM         

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I've had some difficult things to deal with the last week and I couldn't get JT out of my mind.

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posted October 27, 2008 03:59 AM         

I want to ask you a question. There's a thread in the astro forum relating to a job interview. I'm wondering your opinion on job interviews/success and astrology - and predicting beforehand. What's your take on this?

I guess I'm not sure about it. I mean if we want to use pure astrology, we don't know the charts of the other candidates and we also would need a chart for the place of work, I take it. But, to me - I can't relate to that at all, because, all it takes is for you to say one wrong word in those things to @rse it up and I can't see how astrology fits that. There's astrology the guide (as in the area we are most inclined to work/career, etc) and then there's free will. I can't see how something like that can be or is pre-determined - because, from my interpret - that's basically what that question suggests. I'm open to understanding - but can't see how that's possible when your own actions in the present determine the future.

posted October 27, 2008 04:23 AM         

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...stunning CINDY CRAWFORD dressed as AMY WINEHOUSE for a fancy dress party in Hollywood.
She even smeared a white substance on her top lip for the real Wino look.

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posted October 27, 2008 04:26 AM         

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PA:
Draco Destinn on 09° Gemini

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posted October 27, 2008 04:30 AM         

Oh-bee-have!!! LOL!

How b1tchy of Cindy!

posted October 27, 2008 04:38 AM         

Could it possibly be! A nice, harmonious past life. Sun, Merc & Venus conjunct my SN (and his). NN & Amor conjunct NN & Amor! LOL! Isis conjunct Osiris.

posted October 27, 2008 04:38 AM         

Mmm.

If astrologers struggle to predict successfully who will win elections, how is a job interview going to be any easier?

If someone comes online and says, "no chance", that would put me off and somewhere in my subconscious I will have given up a little. It will rub away at that sense of optimism that will fire me up for the occasion.

On the other hand, if I told, "you'll get it", that might instill a little bit of complacency, and it might take the edge of my adrenelin, so I don't get fired up enough to answer the questions well.

How do people get picked anyway?

I think quite often it is how well the person interviewing thinks you will get along. I've had that a couple of times when I've got jobs. They've told me after. And one time I joined in the process. One person came across as an easier person to have in a small office space. It's so terribly subjective, isn't it? But ultimately between two qualified people that can do the job ~ how do you get picked?

A long-winded way of saying, yes, you are right, we are missing out on some crucial information that could help us decide. The other candidates and the interviewees.

posted October 27, 2008 05:00 AM         

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If astrologers struggle to predict successfully who will win elections, how is a job interview going to be any easier?

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I suppose if we're going to be consitent and have to factor in the natal charts of each job candidate, then you have to do the same to each voter. That's one almighty task. Although, made easier in the United States by the fact that voting is not compulsory (as it is here).

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If someone comes online and says, "no chance", that would put me off and somewhere in my subconscious I will have given up a little. It will rub away at that sense of optimism that will fire me up for the occasion.

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Possibly too, if the person has somewhat of a rebelliou personality then they could easily perk up and become more determined just to show the nay-sayers. But personally, if a job is not right for me I don't want to force it. I'd prefer the position that's right for me and me for it.

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On the other hand, if I told, "you'll get it", that might instill a little bit of complacency, and it might take the edge of my adrenelin, so I don't get fired up enough to answer the questions well.

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Very true - arrogance and complacency. But also, there' alway the risk on-site that people are subjective because ultimately we're friends and we want to support each other. It's no different to this thread in that we'll go where we can to prove soulmateship, etc. There are so many branches of astrology and so many interpretations that eventually if you research enough you'll find at least one to support whatever theory you want.

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Precisely. What are they looking for. You just don't know.

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I think quite often it is how well the person interviewing thinks you will get along. I've had that a couple of times when I've got jobs. They've told me after. And one time I joined in the process. One person came across as an easier person to have in a small office space. It's so terribly subjective, isn't it? But ultimately between two qualified people that can do the job ~ how do you get picked?

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posted October 27, 2008 05:07 AM         

I'll just have to be Madonna. I was having a dilemma over the leotard or the cone bras. But settled for this. I'm thinking as it's hard for me to keep my legs together that Sean (no, not Sean Penn) may come in handy (no pun). Umm, I think I'd like his lollypop or is it a snake. I promise if this results in a jelly baby that we'll call it John.

posted October 27, 2008 05:09 AM         

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But also, there' alway the risk on-site that people are subjective because ultimately we're friends and we want to support each other. It's no different to this thread in that we'll go where we can to prove soulmateship, etc. There are so many branches of astrology and so many interpretations that eventually if you research enough you'll find at least one to support whatever theory you want.

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There's some questions ~ like will my father die? Will I ever have children? Where I think it is immoral to give a negative answer. If there's a doubt, saying 'maybe', or saying we can't say for sure is the best way to put it.

Telling people what they want to hear in the 'it will be alright' sense seems reasonable in this context.

What do you hope to gain from this information? I've seen that said, I like that one.