posted April 23, 2004 07:36 PM              

As I said, I was only trying to INVESTIGATE a subject so that I could try to UNDERSTAND it much better than I did at first when I started to ask my questions.

I realize that a lot of people don't like to have their personal decisions about things and / or their motivations for making whatever those decisions are be probed in such a manner as I can tend to probe them in, because to them, after awhile anyway, it might somehow feel that I am asking them to JUSTIFY their lifestyle to me, which in my intents, I am really not doing.

I was only asking for them to try to deeply DESCRIBE how and why their lifestyles worked out in their lives, and I also wanted to know about what they felt their own deep personal motivations were for pursuing those lifestyles.

But, I wasn't asking them for any sort of JUSTIFICATION about all of it though, as if I meant to make them feel that they were doing something wrong at all.

I never meant to make it seem as if I wanted them to DEFEND their motivations for their lifestyles.

I did want to try to get to the ROOT of how this situation was able to work out for them though, and I think that it was just all very misunderstood somehow, since it's hard to communicate correct intents on a message board sometimes.

In my posts, I was just ruminating, just musing, and I really wasn't trying to like hammer my points as if my points were the only ones that had value, but I guess it just came across all wrong this time.

It was sort of meant to be like a 'point/counterpoint' type of discussion, but in this particular case, I guess the only person here who wanted to participate in such a discussion like that one was me though, lol.

I am so sorry that I caused such terrible offense to anyone, but until a Moderator themselves speaks to me and tells me that I am somehow out of line, or rude, or disrespectful in my tone and language, I guess that I will continue to post here anyway.

As I tried to explain more than once in this thread, I might have a slightly different style than other people here have because I spend a great deal of time analyzing information and then writing about it as a practice in my daily life at this time right now.

lioneye,

Personally, ( sorry if that word seems to offend people, ),
I am right there with you in your take on this too.

I don't consider myself a prude in the least either, and interestingly enough, for ALL of the same reasons which you listed yourself as well.

If other people are happy with what they want to do, then fine, but it seems that it's just not for us, I guess.

However, I hope you don't mind being linked with me on this topic since it seems I am considered 'the offensive one.' Lol

But yes, I am right there with you on this, although, of course, I have no idea if that makes you feel better or worse in this case, lol.

posted April 23, 2004 07:49 PM            

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I am so sorry that I caused such terrible offense to anyone, but until a Moderator themselves speaks to me and tells me that I am somehow out of line, or rude, or disrespectful in my tone and language, I guess that I will continue to post here anyway

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posted April 23, 2004 08:43 PM              

* CRACK OF THE WHIP *

You say never mind cuz you got it? Read once again or forever hold your peace...

* More CRACKING OF WHIP *

posted April 23, 2004 11:55 PM            

Hello....yeah Carlo, I am talking about you...so Lioneye is now a prude because you have deemed so..and AJ is a queen of being open-minded...because once again..you have deemed so?

People...why in the hell do you all pander to him? Because he is a male and there are so few of them here? Geez, let's look at his track record, if you do not fall in line with his useless diatribes then you are considered useless, stupid, unattractive physically...$hit ladies..I am happy to be deemed as such by the royal wannabe king himself - yet people fall on his words as though he is just the $hit....please...the Emperor has no clothes.

Don't apologize for how you feel or what you believe in Lioneye, you are no more a prude that AJ is a $lut. To each their own and no one should be ashamed for either being open to multiple partners or chosing to be faithful to only one. We all take chances with our choices.

PPFM - Lady I do admire you and I do not find what you have said to be offensive in the least. It is your opinion and you have found a man that loves you the way a woman should be loved - all encompassing...I think that you opened yourself up honestly, just as others did with their way of life and relationships. I no more look down on you than I do myself or anyone else here.

I like what Lioneye said, as long as you feel good at the end of the day.

Maybe it is as simple as this: Some of us are satisfied with the love of one good mate while others need the love of a village. I would rather be single..alone forever than have to share or spread myself thin - but that is just ME...

Carlo, can you once just offer your own opinion without having to degrade another human being or has Wicca taught you nothing?

posted April 24, 2004 12:09 AM              

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posted April 24, 2004 01:19 AM              

You have to understand that your views are not the views of the majority. If you're going to shout them out from the roof-tops, you better be prepared for some opposition. Otherwise, don't share. You're certainly not going to get an unanimous nod. You've got be used to that by now.

*edited* No matter.

posted April 24, 2004 03:51 AM              

Not worried about losing dead weight. My principals are more valueable to me than any dude is, especially one who expects me to comprimise them for his gratification.

posted April 24, 2004 05:54 AM              

threesomes, foursomes, ten-somes?
since when is that an open mind!

maybe the claim of it being open-minded is your ID for admission to behave as you please?
living your life in any manner you see fit to make you happy is fine and dandy!
but claiming open-mindedness like some high and mighty title is ridiculous.
alow me to define open mind..............TOLERANCE!

an open mind is not a thousand sexual encounters or
twenty people in your bed!

posted April 24, 2004 11:24 AM              

http://virginlion.com/GW1.html

I rededicate it today to those here who have their corsets on a little too tight...you know who you are...now please, loosen it up, it's the weekend, after all...

Love,
Carlo

posted April 24, 2004 11:46 AM              

Honey dear, please CHECK YOUR FACTS next time. I am an AQUA SUN, NOT a Libra Sun.

I don't care what you think, since you don't even show up on the radar screen of what I consider to be serious things in this world, lol.

But I swear, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that I read in another thread that you are a lawyer or something like that?

I don't think I'd hire you if you can't even keep a simple fact like what Sun sign I actually am straight that way though, lol.

Bye, bye, bye!

posted April 24, 2004 12:09 PM              

Don't mind Carlo, everyone...he's only nice to women when they're being slutty and agreeing with everything he says. If you really feed his ego, he'll patronize you with compliments about what a good little worthless $lut you are. He's a closet homo, afterall, and has some serious repressed anger toward women in general.

Thanks for demonstating your true colors once again Carlo...

posted April 24, 2004 12:46 PM              

awesome quote by grandma.
its probably true. men need a woman to lead them gently just like Linda Goodman said. all men and women are looking for an honest man and woman. its the man that becomes lost and distorted in the worst ways when he cant find an honest woman.

the head of a man becomes so rock solid with many dark things that it cant focus on feelings.
beer contributes. violence in his mind. he wants to kick everyones butt for no reason. a man doesnt no why he wants to set the world on fire! if he doesnt kill anything in the flesh he will in the spirit.
he is damn lost indeed.

its womans job to fix this, sad but true everyone.

so fix it ladies!
isnt this what every woman wants? the chance to write themselves in the books of history for having stopped all madness on this planet.

all the credibilty to man for every sacrifice in history. its no wonder. men have died in many battles throughtout time. they have set forth governments and established schools and hospitals.

for woman to lead man back to the basics of life
is a job that will boost women to the place where she has always long to be. in history, next to man, equal to him!

when have women really felt equal? never!
men are lost ladies!
its your time to step up into history!

hey Carlo, the bashing of lioneye is not cool!
the bashing of anyone here is not cool!
you owe everyone an apology!
i suggest you do so or risk your identity being one people despise for lack compassion. which is likely to occur!

posted April 24, 2004 02:11 PM            

You make it sound as if men have done it all and women have sat around doing nothing but drink tea. Some women unfortunately had to spend time fighting for the simple right to vote from those same men you mentioned, when their energy could have been used elsewhere. Last year I read about a woman named Corrie Ten Boom, whose family helped out a lot of jewish people in the war.. she worked extremely hard for those people, saved a lot of lives, risking her own life in the process (and losing some family members in concentration camps). She also helped both jewish and german people after the war come to grips with what they had been through, and start to live as normal a life as they could again. That's pretty damn good in my book, but I had never heard of her until I happened upon a little book on women in history.

My sister and mother are honest women, and they've had men get "lost" anyway. The same thing has happened with men whose girlfriends/wives have strayed.

I honestly don't want to get into an argument, I have nothing against you drummer, but I just had to point that out.

Oh, and as I walked away from the computer, I realized stating it as the "simple" right to vote might offend, when I didn't mean it that way at all, just that it's taken for granted now, they shouldn't have had to fight for that right in the first place.

yeesh, talk about a post diverging from the original topic. Sorry about that..

posted April 24, 2004 03:38 PM              

its true that women have done somethings in history. its true that women have fought and won the right to vote.
However, these contributions wether obscure or in the light of day, are not enouph to make womens equality in the world solid as gold!

the hardest man. the most extreme killer, violator, raper of women must be won over.
he is walking amongst blue collar men.
amongst white collar men.
and in the highest office of every government in the world.

the war in Iraq, caused by Men!
the killing is being done by Men!
Men will claim victory or loss!

the war is wrong and so is President Bush.
dont ask a man to show him he is wrong cause man will just attempt to take his life!

Man kills everthing!

What does woman do to contribute?

women have first say dont they?

posted April 24, 2004 03:41 PM              

no hard feelings at all! ill walk with you into hot water. no problem.