posted October 20, 2008 08:05 PM         

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you refuse to relate the other person if you don't judge?
ummm... ok.
How about appreciate, admire, respect, high-five, and all of their opposites...

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That involves the formation of a judgment as well - appreciate, admire etc.

You form judgments every day yourself. You assess people's conduct towards you and others, make judgments on people that you have met for the first time and determine if you like them or not. Opinion technically is a small part of judgment, judgment to me indicates a final decision, opinion maybe on a particular point at least. No I have not looked them up in the dictionary yet for an offiical meaning of the words.

Anyway, you were very strong to pass your judgment on some political candidates and if we follow the suggestion of not to judge then let's just let all the paedophiles and murderers, fraudsters and even loose people out now!

Yes Madonna has released some good songs and had some new looks that inspired in her younger days. For me, I have problem with her behaviour and her later stuff. For you to say that I have admire everything about her only and see her as a "dream pop star" instead of her actions as a human being and as a pop star flies in my face and makes feel that I am not entitled to judge.

For your information, your Saturn is sitting right on my JUDGING planet jupiter and my Chiron, is widely conj my ASC and opp Moon in Libra, the sign that weighs up both sides. I have felt your Saturn bear down upon me before. Thought I'd just let you know that, I had to get it off my chest.

We also have Sun/Mercury square Sun/Mercury and I have this with mum which means *** -for-tat arguing.

I can't say anything more.

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judging is so last century haha

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Already addressed that issue a few posts back but I can't find the post. What you are advocating by not judging is the acceptance of an honest opinion or thought. You are eroding honesty. This is political correctness and this is what I feel you are doing here. As far as I'm concerned, political correctness is b*llshit and you are denying me the right to search my OWN truth, opinion and mental solution (judgment) - Your Saturn conj My Jupiter.

posted October 20, 2008 08:09 PM         

haha!
Actually, you are wrong... l never judge in real life, l prefer to dig people

posted October 21, 2008 04:31 AM         

I want to talk about Mads & Guy.

posted October 21, 2008 05:17 AM         

I don't think there's anything bad about marrying someone for the size of their "nose"... ;-) I really mean it. The "nose" is an integral part of the person, unlike money.

posted October 21, 2008 05:44 AM         

Interesting point. The thing is that he had and has his own money. Sure, her wealth is out of the stratosphere but how much money can one person actually use?

posted October 21, 2008 06:08 AM         

But of course, I don't know her, I could be wrong, but it looks like it....

I don't think this is an easy decision, this divorce, well, aside from the fact she is knobbing someone else. Allegedly.

It does seem like she made the compromises. And maybe she got fed up.

I'm guessing.

posted October 21, 2008 06:31 AM         

I'd say she compromised herself a lot to fit in. I think his quasi-aristocratic background really appealed to her and that includes her ego and the regality in which she sees herself or wants herself to be seen too.

Don't know much about him. Hard to tell with him because he hasn't put himself out there for scrutiny the way she has. He seems more private. He comes out with comments that make me laugh.

Apparently she is banging A-Rod. Allegedly. And for some time. There was a report some months ago about a video-tape of the two of them dating back two years ago. No wonder poor Guy didn't get it for 18 months. Allegedly. The story broke and then died the next day after it was issued that legal proceedings were in place to stop it being released/sold. The guy who filmed it tried to sell it and was open to bids. Her lawyers were right onto it. Can't fight with the Madonna machine.

I'd say this marriage has been falling apart for some time. If you look at the early pics of them - they were hanging onto each other - very affectionately. The latest ones their bodies were distant even when they had their arms around each other. And one thing I never got - did you ever notice the way he held her arm in public? I would say that he was rather controlling as well. Two very strong personalities. That just makes him more intriguing.

posted October 21, 2008 07:07 AM         

But music, and feminine sexuality. Well, she's not P.J Harvey.

posted October 21, 2008 07:18 AM         

Good question. Waiting, waiting.........

Fine then. From astrotheme:

posted October 21, 2008 07:27 AM         

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She's a superb businesswoman. Publicity generation is only one of her talents.
But music, and feminine sexuality. Well, she's not P.J Harvey.

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Oh, yes - brilliant businesswoman. No doubts/questions there. A marketing master.

Her music's not very good - and I don't care about sales figures - they are not indicative of good music. Popularity does not make something good or true or right. Just look at religion. Madonna has made some fine dance music - you can move to them - but it's not musical brilliance and there is no soul in it.

Like you said - P J Harvey - music from the soul. Kate Bush - HIGHLY sensual lady. Melissa Etheridge - OMG! Listen to "Come To My Window" - the absolute raw sexuality in that - and she doesn't need to shake and show her snatch. The music and talent stand without need for any embellishment.

posted October 21, 2008 06:42 PM         

Thought this may appeal to you. The Sun referred to Mads as "the world’s most famous alpha female".

posted October 22, 2008 04:58 AM         

That would explain why she is trying to tarnish him as a Lady Mucca type gold-digger.

A miscalculation by her P.R team. Better to say nothing and keep a low profile.

posted October 22, 2008 05:12 AM         

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Better to say nothing and keep a low profile.

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