posted October 22, 2008 12:23 PM         

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Destined to become great friends?

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posted October 23, 2008 06:47 AM         

i think her opinion is valid and i understand at a gut/soul level the idea that any negative opinion one harbours ultimately hurts onesself. i think this is the difference between the piscean and virgoian ideologies. the macro and the micro, oneness and discernment. my nodes stradle this dichotomy and so really, i'm feeling both sides of this.

my sag ascendant strives for the ultimate truth, while my aqua sun is pretty darn sure it is relative. my taurus moon wants to bundle madonna in my arms and soothe her and chubby her up. just a bit. but as i was saying, my sag ascendant wants truth and believes there might be an ultimate one, that isn't relative. and my virgo NN craves discernment. so i will say this..

women's sexuality is probably the most relevant and frequent subject of media and entertainment, next to money. men think about it all the time, and women do too. it is a worthy topic that is always THERE but rarely discussed. i just saw the most ridiculous article for women on msn news or whatever called 'what you should and should not wear to work' and it made me laugh, in a disturbed way. how utterly insulting! why do we women eat this up, this ever-shifting totally subjective and paradoxical assault on our full autonomy? don't wear skirts above the knee. okay... but wear a bikini in every music video? we have not come very far at all, us women. we are still obeying men's spoken and unspoken desires and are recycling it back and also controlling one another. we have given, as a whole, power over to men for so long and are so oblivious to it it is not even funny. now, there is a very subtle distinction to be made, in my opinion. when we women do it willingly to ourselves and one another, we think we are doing it in the name of empowerment and liberation, when really we are not. quite the opposite. another paradox, or so it would seem, is to consider that asking a woman to be more modest is to play into the sexist paradigm that we so need to shake off. but the only actual difference between how women are viewed today vs. before our supposed liberation is that we have embraced the male fantasy on a new level. whereas before we were submissive at home and modest in dress, we have now simply substituted our submission with another form; that of catering to an impulse in men that is no longer considered taboo. but it's still a man's world and we are still playing into men's hands. cattiness and competitiveness between women abounds. jealousy, cheating and more and more broken marriages are a result, because women are now liberated. men can change the channel and any new woman can be his new fantasy; firmer, younger, and more silicone than his wife. and this is empowerment?

posted October 23, 2008 06:58 AM         

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why do we women eat this up, this ever-shifting totally subjective and paradoxical assault on our full autonomy?

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posted October 23, 2008 07:03 AM         

I think it is very insulting to ALL women (and to everybody, really) when some say that Madonna should NOT wear leotards because of her age.

I hope women of any age, be they in their 30' or 70's or 80's, would feel free to behave just the way they want. There's nothing pathetic about wanting to FEEL alive and young. *Young* is not about years. Wearing leotards is not denying your years, it's just about wanting to wear leotards.

And why wouldn't a "menopausal woman" not be able to dance with a young man?????? When is the age to stop doing what we want?

Those who judge just make that up in their own head filled with prejudice.

And even if LOOKS ridiculous to some people, so what? All limits from the outside (such as you are too old or fat to wear a bikini etc.) are UNJUST AND UNFAIR, they are limitations that on-lookers place on other people to suit their world view. Get rid of those thoughts and feel free to enjoy life.

posted October 23, 2008 08:50 AM         

In one ear, right out the other one.

The choice is down to the individual. That's what matters. Jump in with the kids at the swimming party? Or sit on the sidelines talking about diets and secretly worrying about cellulite?

If you're 21, it won't matter yet. Fast forward 30 years, that's when it does, and what you do will make a difference.

posted October 23, 2008 09:26 AM         

I have nothing against Madonna wearing what she wants but whereas Tina Turner doing her thing looked spontaneous and joyous because it was just a woman enjoying her body, there is something desperate about Madonna.

Tina was just having fun. Madonna is silently screaming "Look at me, I can't bear getting old.
Like one of those aunties at a wedding you forgive for falling all over the "young 'uns" because she has had a few!

No one is saying she should put on a cardi, have a perm and take up knitting.
Her Ray of Light phase was probably more fitting for now.

And why shouldn't a menopausal women in a leotard thrust at a 24 yr old man?

For the same reason a 50 yr old man shouldn't dance in a posing pouch in front of a 20 yr old girl.

Nothing to do with morality, age,or anything other than aesthetics.

posted October 23, 2008 09:33 AM         

~ in a governmental U.F.O report the lights from her Wembley concert was given as the explanation of one of the sightings.

posted October 23, 2008 10:16 AM         

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it is good and fine and wonderful for madonna to embrace her sexuality and live the way she wants, even shake her stuff. but this discussion, i think, involves a much larger context, about womens' roles and sexuality. i don't think there is anything inherently gross about a 50 year old who can dance. if i get the urge to throw on some leather boustier when i'm 50 and prance around my neighbourhood with i probably will! but only cuz i believe we should all do whatever the hell we want. and, cuz i think it would be kinda funny.

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something that feels "off" with our culture; a consumerist attitude toward women, a cut and paste heirarchy of invalid standards of beauty and sexuality and femininity. a liberation movement that went awry and did a u-turn that few of us noticed.

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A lot of things feel "off" to be honest.. but I have to pick between the - chastising/criticising female sexuality "off" and consumerism - I can't say I mind the latter option. It might be my Venus/Pluto opposition.

posted October 26, 2008 05:46 PM         

Please allow me to take this opportunity to divulge an important piece of info about me. I am Deuxantares, and I work for Madonna. Stress on the 1st syllable -- Mad-unna. Yes, the Material Girl. I'm using this milestone in my LL stint to post a statement from my boss. ______________________________

"To everyone who trash-talked me in this thread all I can say is "I don't care what you say! And listen to this: I'm rich, very rich, very very rich that I can buy whatever rising sign I want. I can even have my own house system created just for me."

It's not true that I married Guy only for his ****. It's not just that. I'm not that shallow.

There's another reason, and it's his ******." <<<<<<<<-------- (Anyone who can guess what this is gets a prize! - Deux)

Signed,
Madonna
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posted October 26, 2008 06:06 PM         

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Anyone who can guess what this is gets a prize! -

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posted October 27, 2008 12:17 PM         

It's not his **** it's his....it's his......SNATCH????
Do I get the prize??
What is it?

Madonna's tea stained coloured, seriously weird leotard from the 4 mins video?

A Malawian, Malwian, Malwain....a baby from Malawi??

The American Tan coloured leg warmers from the Time goes by vid?

A Kabbalah string bracelet and some miracle water?