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Glaucus
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posted January 09, 2010 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

I am telling you that my answer is:

I don't know.

I gave the reason for my answer.


That is all.


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the truth is it only matters relatively"

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Polo C
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posted January 09, 2010 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
But you're answering a question that I am not asking. Where do you Think you fall on the scale? What do you Feel? What do you Believe?

Of course you don't Know. How could you? No one does.

My new question specifically to you Glaucus is why are you too afraid to commit to an answer? There is no Right or Wrong so, what is it that you fear?

Lara answered... Diandra answered... You even anawered now that I check _

quote:
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I once wrote a poem called "I Know Nothing" back in 2001.

interestingly 0 has no end and no beginning.


So, why have you changed your position to you don't know? There is your answer. It's a very good answer as you will soon see. I suggest you stick with it.

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Glaucus
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posted January 09, 2010 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

because I honestly don't know

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Polo C
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posted January 09, 2010 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
Okay

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venus in gemini
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posted January 09, 2010 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Polo,
I refuse to enter into an egoistic verbal sparring battle with you.

I should have plainly stated that I received this guidance from my highest self. But I didn't think it was necessary with the group of people responding on this thread, because most of them do understand that.

I do have one last parting thought for you. Hopefully you will take it to heart in the purest sense, and that it does help you calm down the ever present chaos you seem to generate on every thread.

"Release the Ego, and the need for conflict almost completely disappears."

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Polo C
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posted January 09, 2010 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
I am not in conflict with anyone... Check the thread

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Glaucus
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posted January 09, 2010 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I don't see how asking people questions about others's beliefs and views is being chaotic or egotistical sparring battle.I see that Polo C is questioning stuff and asking people for some proof about what they say. That's just what being a skeptic is about. Skeptic means "to question". There is no rule against skepticism in this forum. There is no rule against debate either.

according to this link: http://www.linda-goodman.com/

Linda loved debate, so in her memory we do encourage debates. You are free to speak your Minds about anything, but please, use no profanity or personal insults. Linda was adamantly opposed to the medical theocracy and, in some cases, organized religion, and here in Lindaland we shall continue her legacy in those regards. As a Ram, Linda had a fiery passion for her beliefs, and we do encourage others here to do likewise. There will be no censorship here, and freedom of expression and speech rules supreme, but please be courteous and respectful of others while doing so. Linda had a talent for speaking her Mind without offending others. Let's try to do likewise. She was very opinionated, and when we debate with each other in a loving manner, we do her name justice. Peace, Light, and Love to all.


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Polo C
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posted January 09, 2010 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
If I make a generalized statement about some unfavorable condition in the world, but then someone takes personal offense, as if I have spoken directly to them or about them, it is only because of the awareness they have of their own guilt, which I myself may have no knowledge of.

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posted January 09, 2010 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystique     Edit/Delete Message
"On a scale from 0 - 10 with 0 representing a point of no knowledge, as in death or unconsciousness, and 10 representing the eternal knowledge of God's all knowingness, where would you place yourself on this scale. What number would you give to yourself and why?"


Polo, you are quite the analyst

On an impulse I will say a 4 and my reason is really very lighthearted

I know a little bit about me and how I do things (1st house) I know a little bit about me and what my needs are (4th house) I know a little bit about me and how I relate with another being (7th house) and I know a little bit about what I want to offer the world (10th house)

Honestly, the only thing I know for sure is that what I think I know now for sure will change tomorrow when I learn something new to add to what I know today...that has been the one constant I've noticed ...so I keep an open mind and heart and ask for guidance from God...and that's all we can do really

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Polo C
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posted January 10, 2010 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
Okay so far we have _

  • 0 - Glaucus

  • 5 - Diandra

  • 9 - Lara

  • 8 - Vaporlash

  • 4 - Mystique

Is this right? Did I leave anybody out? I don't think VIG wanted to answer. So is everyone happy with the number they have selected or do you wish to change it before I explain it all?

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posted January 10, 2010 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystique     Edit/Delete Message
[i]I think that an actual twin flame relationship would be about two people with mutual awareness,understanding. It would seem like there would be no fear,attachment, posessiveness,jealousy,nor a need to run away. If anything, a twin flame relationship could be about courage,discipline,awareness,and commitment in all its totality. Of course,detachment and liberation would seem a big part of it too. The relationship would seem to be about letting go instead of holding on. The couple encourage them to be themselves and not change each other[i]

Good points Glaucus because you have nothing to prove to each other...you meld together, mutually coming together for a purpose beyond what you may think it is at that time

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posted January 10, 2010 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks,
Mystique

I liked your reason about the answer for your rate of knowledge.

BTW this morning I ended up picking Mystique card out of the Messages from Angels deck along with the Twin Flame card out of the Angel Therapy deck and All Is Well card out of the Archangel deck.

This is what it says for the Mystique card:

"Keep charging ahead, and don't take no for an answer. Expect miraculous solutions to appear."

Additional message: You are on the right path! Although it might seem to take a lot of time and effort, keep up the good work. You are definitely making progress toward your intended outcome. Sometimes flexibility is called for when you're working toward an aim. But in this instance, you need to stay firm in your conviction. Compromise will only water down the Divine plan that you're manifesting.

"Resist the urge to bend, or to please others. In the end, these individuals will be pleased by the outcome. You're following a Divine course, and others may not be privy to the same vision that you're following. Do your best to explain the vision to the others involved, but don't feel the need to defend your actions. Look at my picture. I am coming out of the darkness and into the light. So are you. You know what you're doing, and we in Heaven are here to back you up fully!"


Raymond

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Polo C
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posted January 10, 2010 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
I agree! The running stage in the beginning is sort of a spiritual conditioning I would say. It seems that if two individuals have made the necessary sacrifices and done their own personal work independently, it raises their awareness enough that on a deeper spiritual level they would recognize their complement.

Now, although they recognize the other person deep within themselves, they still may not be living their own lives in accordance with their true nature. This is where the chaos and conflict begin because instinctively they know what must be done, but to get to the next level they may be required to give up much of what they have attained up to this point.

This is a difficult decision for anyone and one may be afraid to make it unless they are absolutely certain they are correct in their assessment of the situation. This is a calling, but not all answer the call and try to escape it by running. They do so because they underestimate the enormous significance of it all. What do they have to compare it to? What can they reference? Who can they ask to advise them?

The running is a time for introspection and contemplation. A time for one to wrap their minds around this, what seems to be, madness. The beginning stage of Twin Flames, when the running occurs, is merely an opportunity earned due to one's own personal growth, but there is no guarantee that the relationship itself will actually materialize. Only the strong will persevere and endure the suffering, making the necessary sacrifices to finally achieve a Twin Flame relationship.

I wish all those who receive an opportunity the very best because it is hard and most may not make it sadly. Remember, it is a calling, so do what you can within yourself before hand and when they call comes, you may be ready.

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Diana
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posted January 10, 2010 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
People only run if they don't like you enough. People always lie to themselves and say it's because the other person is afraid, but that is total BS. If you really like someone a lot, you can't run, because the intense feeling to be with the person is stronger than the fear. I have been a runner, so I know...


PS -- why isn't this in soul unions? There is no astrology whatsoever in it.

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posted January 10, 2010 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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People only run if they don't like you enough. People always lie to themselves and say it's because the other person is afraid, but that is total BS. If you really like someone a lot, you can't run, because the intense feeling to be with the person is stronger than the fear. I have been a runner, so I know...

Yes, you make a good point if the runner is single and available. Say they are married with children. Then the circumstances would be their cause for running and it will take a lot more for them to sacrifice all of that for the Soul Union. Like I mentioned before, Twin Flames are also a trinity with God so neither party is going to be willing to hurt their significant other, that would be selfish and immature. The confusion from all of this will cause running, so to speak, as they figure it all out for themselves.

I agree with your point if both parties are single and available. I also agree if both parties are immature and selfish while they are committed, but there are other circumstances that will cause running besides they don't like you enough.

Tell me more of your situation when you were a runner Diana? Maybe I am wrong.

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posted January 10, 2010 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
Sigh.

After going through this entire thread, I am beginning to believe that most people's idea of soul mates and twin flames are wishful thinking. It seems to be another way to elevate your relationship while looking down at the "regular" relationships that other human beings have.

I am sorry, but some of y'all who are claiming to be evolved are not exhibiting this high state in the way you reply to people who challenge you. Taking offense of what someone is saying about you on a message board is not exactly a sign of spiritual maturity or of having an ego free life.

I wonder if this new trend of relationship obsession has to do with Pluto in Cap, squaring Libra the sign of partnership.

Before anyone can solidly claim to be in a soul mate or twin flame relationship, I would like to see them waiting until quite a few years have past and see if life has dampened or altered the feelings they are currently experiencing. Every new relationship is exciting, and people tend to wax eloquent about the wonderfulness of it, like it's the best thing that has ever happened to them. Then a couple of years later, you hear a different story.

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posted January 10, 2010 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
I thought I was the only one who noticed that...

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posted January 10, 2010 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Polo,

You weren't. I also said similar things in the thread.

posted January 09, 2010 05:31 PM


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posted January 10, 2010 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message

If Glaucus thinks he is a 0 (and he seems to know alot) then I'm a -5. lol.

Can I be a minus?

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posted January 10, 2010 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry Glaucus. I do remember, you did. In fact you said quite a bit about it. It is so difficult to discuss these deeply meaningful things with that kind of pettiness going on. Thanx for moving to correct it.

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posted January 10, 2010 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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If Glaucus thinks he is a 0 (and he seems to know alot) then I'm a -5. lol.
Can I be a minus?

You can't be -5 because ewe are only dealing with whole numbers, but to say that shows that you get the point. Okay, this is why I asked the question.

The question is based on the idea that someone who truly knows something knows that he really knows nothing at all. Or, the more you learn, the more you see there is to know. In the years that I have asked this question of people the results remain consistent and accurate. The theory goes, the more someone actually knows, the lower the number they choose will be. Glaucus picked the number zero. Lara picked the number nine She is gonna be steaming mad after she reads this, but the results are clear. LOL!!!

I said that 10 represented the all knowing, eternal wisdom of God... And she picked the number nine. Really? The number nine Lara? Is that your final answer? So her knowledge is closer to God than it is to the dead. I guess she should be able to tell me how to "Blow the Sun out" and light it back up then, huh? Tell me how to jump inside of a black-hole and jump back out. I bet she can tell me too then how to conquer light-speed and where Atlantis actually is. Who built the Pyramids Lara, do ya know? Can you tell me that? Okay, maybe she can. I haven't actually asked her, but I doubt it if she can't even tell me anything about what she already claims to know. LMAO!!! She set herself up for this one, I'm sorry!

Poor Lara... When will she ever learn? 0 Zero, or some infinite fraction between Zero and One, is the best answer one could choose in comparing their own knowledge with the knowledge of God. It shows both reasonability and humility. Those who know how much they do not know are the most open and willing to learn, but those who think they know it all don't feel they need to learn anything. I think a review of this thread will prove, beyond the shadow of any doubt, that this theory is correct and the numbers don't lie. LMmfao!!!! Sorry Lara. Buh-bye now

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posted January 10, 2010 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Soulmates 94, Astrology 1. Moving to Soul Unions.

Opinions don't make truth. It's possible for everyone to express their opinions (or their truth) without resorting to the rudness. Thanks.

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posted January 10, 2010 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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Polo C
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posted January 10, 2010 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry... Did you think I was being rude PeaceAngel? Really, it was all in good fun.

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posted January 10, 2010 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, Polo, just looking at it from Lara's point - I think it may be seen as rude. I thought it was.

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