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pidaua
Knowflake

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posted August 25, 2006 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again L Moon, you sure seem to post as though you know the history when you just said today was your first day here.

DayDreamer did not simply say she was against war and then people attacked her. She has been sympathetic to terrorists and she continously bashes on the United States. When she is asked about the fact that there are Muslim extremists she calls people liars, stupid ignorant fools etc...

You should know that... you're her.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you L Moon,

It doesn't matter how many times I say this they have shutters over their eyes.

I hope that thread I am looking for was not deleted...it's taking me a long time to find it.

Listen.

I am not L Moon, and I do not know who L Moon is. Does it completely phase you that people can see through this bs??

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jwhop
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posted August 25, 2006 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My my, well GU is a rough and tumble forum. That's the reason we attempt to confine threads like this one to GU.

If someone intends to attack and slander the United States or defend terrorists who deliberately target, attack and kill civilians..including those of their own religious faith, then expect to take some lumps.

That's not racism and I haven't seen racism on the GU forum. I sure as hell haven't seen Juni make any comment which could be remotely construed as racist.

It seems entirely normal and appropriate that when Islamic terrorists are deliberately attacking and killing civilians that the subject would come up on GU and the religious authority from which they claim they are authorized to do so.

Again, that's not racism. That's a logical and reasonable reaction to what's going on in certain parts of the world.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This coming from someone who posts articles (by Ann Coulter...if that's how you spell it and others) about either converting or exterminating Muslims.

I call it racism. What other name do you call such hateful and abusive behaviour and insults?

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pidaua
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posted August 25, 2006 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the thread you little slanderous person. You do know your childish antics will backfire on you and now that I am posting the thread where VL got banned- you will be exposed for being the lying mean-spirited person that you are....
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/002526.html

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pidaua
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posted August 25, 2006 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And here is where VL decided to make her comment - I will post what Isis said and VL's response..

Keep in mind... DayDreamer is equating this exchange with us stating that we want to see all Islamic TERRORISTS brought to justice and that they are evil...

Isis
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posted August 11, 2006 03:53 PM
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You know Mirandee, I feel sympathy for you. It must be horrible to live in a world where everything is a conspiracy. On the flip side it must be empowering to be one of the handful of people who are "in the know" and "clued in" to what is "really" going on, however to the same degree, extremely frustrating that everyone else "just won't get it."
It's kinda like a loss of innocence. I mean, I know you're an older woman and therefore you've been around the block (and I don't mean that in an insulting Pid vs "Stainblow" kinda way), so it's not like you're 19 and have this massive amount of innocence to lose. But all the same, when you constantly see your own goverment as out to get you/dupe you/screw you over/take something from you/deceive you/etc, it must make the world you live in a sinister, dark place.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone should blindly believe in their government, nor do I believe that any government is above conspiratorial BS, but when an individual sees everything that happens by their government as a conspiracy to deceive people...what a dark world with little hope.

I know some older people can tend to be more pessimistic and/or have a "sky is falling" attitude about the state of the nation (I hear it all the time, I volunteer for Meals on Wheels and visit with several elderly people on a regular basis), and it saddens me that people who have so much to share become so negative just through what appears to be sheer aging.

I hope I don't become a cynnical, negative pessimist in my twilight years. It doesn't seem like a really happy space to be in.

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Venusian Love
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posted August 11, 2006 03:58 PM
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Don't feel sympathy for Mirandee Isis.

Feel sympathy for yourself for being a dirty wh*re who likes one night stands


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Eleanore
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posted August 25, 2006 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The following was said by DayDreamer in a thread she started named, "Take Hezbollah off list".

quote:
I agree with everything George Galloway said.

Israel is the original terrorist state ... and continues to terrorize Palestinians and Arabs like the Lebanese in the war that just happened.

Hezbollah formed as a resistance group, in response to Israel's terrorism.



Here is the link to that thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/002619.html

Now, I'm sorry L Moon, but it certainly seems, at least from that thread, that someone suggesting that Hezbollah, a known terrorist group, is not a bunch of terrorists after all and that Israel is the real terrorist ... well, doesn't it at least seem, even a teeny tiny bit, that the person saying that sympathizes with terrorists?

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jwhop
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posted August 25, 2006 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I call Ann Coulter's comments political discourse and totally in line with what the opposition on the left have been and still are doing.

The fact that Coulter skewers leftists and makes light of their hypocrisy makes it all the more difficult for them to take.

That's not racism.

As for Coulter's remarks about those who think they are authorized by or demanded by their religion to either kill us infidels, convert us to Islam or collect tribute from us, she just turned the tables around on them. That two edged sword cuts both directions.

Again, that's not racism, that's reciprocity.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im sorry I misinterpreted what you said juniperb. You did not out right call for VL in that thread to be banned.

Maybe I was referring to another started by BerrySweet and LeylaLeFaye. I shouldnt make assumptions before re-checking it out for myself.

But to me and Im sure other Muslims out there (seems like Im the only one at Lindaland) what happens in GU is racism...and is no different from what happened in that attack on pidaua.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How come only this type of behaviour gets a person banned? But if it has anything to do with Muslims it's fine? As if all Muslims and their beliefs are to blame and are terrorists??

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009897.html

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jwhop
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posted August 25, 2006 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has been stressed to you over and over that it's not your race and not your religious beliefs which are being attacked. It's your comments.

**Edit

What's under attack is the brand of Islam which sanctions terrorism...defined as deliberate attacks on a civilian population to achieve a political or religious goal.

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TINK
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posted August 25, 2006 07:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear God, is that really how you see Juni? You won't find a more staunch defender of your faith here in LL ... or one more well-versed in it, for that matter.

Just when you thought things couldn't possibly get anymore irrational.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry jwhop,

quote:
As for Coulter's remarks about those who think they are authorized by or demanded by their religion to either kill us infidels, convert us to Islam or collect tribute from us, she just turned the tables around on them. That two edged sword cuts both directions.

Again, that's not racism, that's reciprocity.



Both are wrong, hateful and racist!!

I don't know who you're referring to on here that posts things like this that are in opposition to what your are reciprocating?

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L Moon
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posted August 25, 2006 07:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tink. I read alot of your little remarks also. U're a racist in disguise.


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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me make this clear I do not think or have I thought Juniperb as racist.

The problem I have is people's boundaries are too blurred and can't tell what is acceptable for discourse and what is hateful.


edit: I hope Im not being suckered

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jwhop
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posted August 25, 2006 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you suggesting Islamic terrorists and Islamic regimes can suggest their goal is to kill all the infidels, convert them to Islam or collect tribute from US but when Coulter suggests we should kill all the terrorists and convert Muslims to Christianity the one is pure as the driven snow but Coulter's comment is racist?

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pidaua
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posted August 25, 2006 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You did notice DayDreamer ONE MAJOR THING.... the thread was about being p1ssed off at Christians... ALOT of disparaging things were said about Christians and you KNOW WHAT???????

No one asked for anyone voicing their distaste for Christians to be banned.....


LeylaFey was banned because she is a racist. She was using stereotypes, vulger language and basically stating that if one is light skinned they cannot be American Indian.

No one here has questioned your faith in Islam

No one here as asked you to prove you are Muslim

No one here questions if you are of Pakistani descent

No one here has said DayDreamer is "you insult here" because she is Mulsim.

You have started a major battle by accusing people of being racist when no one has made a racist comment to you.

You tried to get Lioneye banned because she questioned Islam. Yet you never made a peep when we explained to you that questioning a religion is not grounds for dismissal. YOU even had Juni explain that there were times she was hurt when Christianity was bashed. When you asked her how she dealt with it, she said it doesn't shake her faith.

You couldn't accept that... and now you've done this. You tried your racism theory in Astrology, you tried it in GU and now you are trying it here.

I feel sorry for you.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a Double Standard.

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LeylaFey was banned because she is a racist. She was using stereotypes, vulger language and basically stating that if one is light skinned they cannot be American Indian.

Wow but you don't see the stereotypes adn vulgar language directed towards Muslims adn Islam by certain someones, like lioneye for instance??

Boggles my mind!

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TINK
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posted August 25, 2006 07:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to see evidence of that. L Moon, I don't generally enjoy being so very blunt, nevertheless, it's clear that either your reading comprehension skills leave something to be desired or you are here for no other reason than to start trouble.

Let's hope DD is wise enough to know who her friends are.

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pidaua
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posted August 25, 2006 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again you are on the border of lying.. you definitely deceive yourself, but you can bet 99% of the Knowflakes here see that you are full of something that smells quite raunchy and is normally found on cattle ranches.


I asked you to prove where I said something racist... You couldn't even in your "who's the racist" post.

You have no evidence, no proof and you are basically lying and slandering people here.

You are making a HUGE fool out of yourself daydreamer and it is like watching someone that is drug and drugged up spiral into a dark hole. Pathetic is what it is....


You really need to grow up...

Maybe we should all just ignore you.. ignore every thread you start and every single one of your posts.... kind of hard to carry on your slander if no one responds to you.. soon enough you will cross the lines and get your own self banned.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop said:
quote:
Are you suggesting Islamic terrorists and Islamic regimes can suggest their goal is to kill all the infidels, convert them to Islam or collect tribute from US but when Coulter suggests we should kill all the terrorists and convert Muslims to Christianity the one is pure as the driven snow but Coulter's comment is racist?

Be practical for once.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
L Moon thank you for bringing this up.

This has been bothering me for a while

You are a Godsend

Tink you've also been supportive, and I thank you for that

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Dulce Luna
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posted August 25, 2006 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh dear. L Moon, I don't know why you quoted me but I can assure you that I am not against Islam. My post was a response to someone (and people in general) who was quick to condemn Islam as an "opressive concept" and even went so far as to compare it to communism. I simply pointed out that a religion should not persecuted because of what a few people from that religion claimed to have done "In the name of God".

I also want to say that in agreement with MamaMia I think that religion is something that should never be debated because whether we mean to or not, we may end up offending someone and this is exactly what happened.

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Isis
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posted August 25, 2006 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you LMoon are VL. If you're not Venusian Love, I'm an alpaca shawl. (at least if I'm wrong I'll still be soft, warm and comfy...LOL).

You're VL back to stir up more drama between people. What's wrong? Can't you find another site to keep creating user names on and harass?

I think some here need to take out a dictionary and look up what words mean before they try to use them incorrectly in a sentence. Nobody on GU is racist, and recognizing that a fringe group of Christians, Buddhist or yes, even MUSLIMS who use their religion to justify murder of innocent people are bad is not racism nor bigotry.

This needs to be in GU. We already have half a dozen threads on the subject over there, what's one more...

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dulce Luna,

thank you for making this statement

quote:
I simply pointed out that a religion should not persecuted because of what a few people from that religion claimed to have done "In the name of God".

Mama Mia,

I agree religion should never be debated...and in this case vilified and abused either. I get enough of it from religious extremists.

edit: well I take that back...religion can be debated, as long as the people want to debate them...it should not be forced upon a person. The problem I contend with from others is religion-bashing...that's not a debate!

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