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MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 4931 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted September 17, 2007 11:58 AM
Oh, you missed it, it was SO GOOD. Well, I loved it anyway. They re-played all of the most sensational parts, so that was fun, but they also replayed the parts from the beginning interaction with Dick and Danielle. It was actually a little heart-warming. And I saw a few things that I missed when I missed some episodes. I loved it. I have to remember to watch Tuesday now to see the Eric reactions!!! 
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 18, 2007 01:33 AM
Yeah. I've got an improv class Tuesday nights, so I'm gonna have to watch it on the internet. I might be able to catch half of it on tv.IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 4931 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted September 18, 2007 11:41 PM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATCH IT AG!!!!!!!!! HURRY UP AND WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATCH IT!!!!!!!!!Set already California sun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 19, 2007 02:16 AM
You can comment. I missed it due to my class. I know Dick won, and I know they made Eric campaign for him.  I just want to see the reaction to Eric's news. Totally messed up the game having an America's Player. Lord, I'm watching. I've gotta stop. It's 11:16. I've gotta get to bed. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 19, 2007 09:38 PM
I'm gonna watch the final episode now, but first I stopped at this article. Thought you might be interested:Donato Mess With Us! Dick and Daniele, the father-daughter duo who claim to be the best ''Big Brother'' team ever, talk about Dick's victory, their strategy for making the final two, why they're not sorry about messing with Jen, and more By Josh Wolk 'Thirty-six gallons of spit and 18,000 cigarettes after entering the house, bartender ''Evel'' Dick Donato took home Big Brother 8's $500,000 prize, with his estranged daughter Daniele nabbing second place ($50,000). We talked to the father/daughter team, and found out that no matter what the opinions of the seven jury members, still smarting from the verbal abuse tossed their way by Dick all summer, this duo is confident they have nothing to apologize for. ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: When you first discovered each other in the house, how long until you decided that was a good thing? DANIELE: Never. I'm being honest. It was definitely a disadvantage. A lot of people said, ''Oh, if I had my dad in the house I could have made it to the end too,'' which is a load of crap, because we had it the hardest. We were the biggest targets from day one. How long until you started working together? DICK: We started playing together within an hour of me walking down the stairs, if that. We went into the bathroom and aligned at that time to play together until the end. We knew we could trust each other, and neither one of us was gonna turn on the other. I was a finalist [to be on BB] in season 5, and Daniele was going to be my supposed secret partner in season 6, and we didn't get on the show either year. And so this year I said, Let's go back to our season 6 strategy, which is play together and go with the flow, see what happens, and make moves together. When you were up for season 6, I assume you were talking to each other. DANIELE: Yeah, that was over two years ago. [Laughs] We were actually friends. Was it difficult to slip into a team plan now that you had so much personal tension? DANIELE: In the bathroom, when we did decide to align, I told him, I don't know what's gonna happen with our personal life, but let's focus on the game. If you have my back, I'll have yours. Period, end of story. When we took the personal out of the game, it was game, and it was on. Dick, was it your strategy to be ruthlessly confrontational, or is that just your personality? DANIELE: Personality — I'll answer that for him right now. DICK: It was a combination of both. In week 3, when I won the HOH, Kail flipped on her whole alliance and gave up everything to me: I can't stand the he-said/she-said private conversations that Kail did to me twice, where she lied to me, and turned around and lied about what was said when I laid it out to the [Late-Night Crew alliance]. So number one, when you [confront people] in front of everyone, it kills that, because everyone hears exactly what's going on. Number two, most of those people in there didn't deal with confrontation very well, including Eric. When I confronted him when he was in the Jacuzzi, the guy was shaking like a leaf. It worked for me, but I would not recommend it for people playing this game in the future. [Laughs] I should have been gone quite a number of times. But through everything I said, there were no lies. And very, very little embellishment. Most of it was straight up the truth, and most of the people in the house knew that. I would keep saying, ''I haven't lied to you,'' and no one could dispute that fact. Even when Eric tried to [say] that I was a liar, I asked him repeatedly to tell everyone one lie that I have told in the house, and what the heck did he say? That he wasn't gonna get into it and he wasn't going to go into details and blah blah blah. The fact of the matter was, there was nothing he could grab on to. He was the one who was full of s--- at that time, not me. So just bringing everything to the forefront in front of everyone, I don't know, it worked. Did you ever think you were going too far? You said some pretty brutal things to people. DICK: During hell week? Hell week (when he taunted everyone in the hopes that they'd evict him in place of Daniele) only seemed marginally more hellish than other weeks. DICK: Really!? You were unrelentingly cruel to Jen, calling her all sorts of horrible names, not to mention pouring iced tea on her head. The Sacramento chapter of the National Organization of Women protested CBS about you. DICK: I can't stand Jen. I look at her as just a horrible person, and I had no problem calling her out on all of her bulls---. I've never met anyone so self-absorbed in my life, and who treats everyone like they're not just below her but they're not even worth her time. The fact of the matter was, she's a friggin' nanny. Give me a break. DANIELE: Here's a comment she made. Jessica had been talking about moving to L.A. to become a model or an actress or something. Then, when Jessica was debating putting Jen up as a replacement nominee, the comment Jen made was, ''I don't understand why Jessica would want to make an enemy out of me. If you were my friend, you'd make more out of your life than anything you ever tried to do on your own.'' That's the epitome of Jen, that's who she is. DICK: I don't know what they showed on the show, but it was nonstop with that girl. Every single conversation, she would turn around to herself. She wouldn't be included in conversations, and she would answer people's questions that were posed to other people. There was one point where we were talking about what we wanted to eat, and BB was getting us In-N-Out burgers. Jameka's from D.C., and I guess there's no In-N-Outs over there. So I asked Jameka something, and Jen answers, and I turn around and say, ''I'm not talking to you.'' And she says, ''Well, I'm speaking for Jameka.'' And I look at her and just shake my head, and Jameka starts yelling that she can speak for herself. It was nonstop with her. ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Daniele, how did you feel watching your dad being so brutal to people? DANIELE: Honestly, it was really hard. I had to play two games: my own game, and I had to play a game of damage control for my dad. I went around that house apologizing absolutely a million times to everybody because of the things he'd say and do. There were points where no one in the house would even look at me, because they'd be upset with him and I'd be guilty by association. How is that supposed to make me feel? I didn't do anything and I'm sorry but I'm not his parent, I'm not his mother, I'm not gonna step in. It's not my duty, it had nothing to do with me, take care of it yourself. I got to the point when I went upstairs and went off on everybody, because I was so sick of being blamed for everything he did. It wasn't me, it was him. After you did that, you confessed in the Diary Room that that outburst was partly strategy to take the glare off yourself. DANIELE: They didn't show the whole thing. Yes, it was strategy, but it's also your real emotions just at the right time with the right people. I'd been feeling it for absolute weeks, and I just wanted to get it out. It was perfect timing, every single person in the house was upstairs, and it was about doing it in front of everybody so everyone knew how I felt and just getting it off my chest. Dick used the Power of Veto to save you over himself, and often said how much he wanted you to win. But in the final two, though you didn't campaign against each other, he didn't seem to be handing it over to you. Did you expect him to take a dive? DANIELE: No. DICK: It didn't matter who won. We both won everything. We won the whole game. It was just like, answer the questions, however the chips fall is how they fall. Am I gonna cry if my daughter wins half a million dollars? Hell no. Is she gonna cry if I win? Hell no. What's the difference? We won the game. We did something that two players aligned from the beginning have never been able to do before. And we're the best team that's played that game.... Well, you say, ''What's the difference?'' but there's a big, $450,000 difference. DICK: But who cares? DANIELE: Of course it's about the money, you come in wanting the money. I honestly believe nobody believes this, but the 100 percent truth is that we wanted to make the final two. We did that, we accomplished what we wanted, and at that point it didn't matter. I don't care that he won. We won, and that's all that matters. Dick said you guys are the greatest team to ever play this game. Is that claim affected by the revelation that as America's Player, Eric only voted out Dustin instead of Dick because America ordered him to, and if it were up to him, Dick would have gone? DICK: Am I still digesting that whole thing? Absolutely. Would I have been able to work it otherwise? Who's to say yes or no? What Eric went through the week before, he couldn't trust Dustin, no one could trust Dustin. So if it was played straight up, no one could have said if I'd have gone or wouldn't have gone. There was leverage that was played: I told Eric that he would be gone the week after I left or the week after that at the latest. Had I gone that week, and with Daniele winning the HOH as soon as I left, there was a strategy in place that would have split the votes, putting Dustin and Eric up, having Amber vote for Dustin, Jessica vote for Eric, leaving Daniele with Jen and Zach's votes controlling who stayed and who went. So if Eric did not win the POV, or someone else didn't win the POV and take him off, he would have been going home the following week. I explained that to him, and his first comment was, ''I don't respond well to threats.'' I told him it's not a threat, it's leverage; I would be a better ally than an enemy. So who's to say how the thing would have played out had the game been played straight up? The producers clearly were hoping for a big reconciliation between you two by the end of the show, but while Daniele seemed slightly optimistic, she definitely never committed to bygones remaining bygones. What do you think your future holds now that you're out of that goldfish bowl and going back to your real lives? DANIELE: I'm a very private person. This whole experience of being filmed 24/7 was really hard for me. There's obviously many, many things we need to discuss that happened in the past that I wasn't remotely about to bring up on national television, and have everybody know about things that have gone on between us. It's just a really hard situation, and we have been on really good terms before, and on really bad terms, and you just never know what's going to happen. With both of us trying and putting the effort in, it's definitely something, and definitely going in the right direction. One last question for Daniele: Was your boyfriend at the finale party with Nick? Because I imagine that would have been the most awkward finale party ever. DANIELE: [After a steely moment of silence] I'm not gonna respond to that comment.  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 19, 2007 10:36 PM
Ok, I've seen the whole thing now. They didn't announce that Eric won anything for his service? I wonder if they thought people would be mad at him, and decided not to reveal that for that reason.I think Danielle thought she was set being up against her dad. She probably thought herself a shoe-in to win it all. I wonder if her dad's always hogging the spotlight is what p!sses her off the most. Why didn't they address Nick's airplane flyover after outing Eric? I would have liked to have heard about that. After reading the article above, and thinking about Dick's apparently long association with the show I wonder how fair and objective the producers made the competition. Do you think there could have been a conspiracy? Dick brought them all the drama the show could take with his abrasive personality coupled with his familial crisis. Was America really obsessed with Dick, or was it just the show's producers (and not America) making Eric save him? Dick now thinks they're the best BB team ever, and I couldn't agree less. Maybe if Danielle wins an All-Star game I'll reconsider, but I don't see that happening (not by herself, and not with her dad). If Eric were left to his own devices the whole game probably would have ended differently. He would have been free to agree with Jessica then, and she would have taken them farther. IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 4931 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted September 20, 2007 12:01 AM
I didn't know they had tried out before, so that was interesting. I think the America's player thing just worked out to the producer's advantage, which is why they did it in the first place. I hated it when hot blondie with the girly voice and stud muffin with the spikey hair went home that one season. I really liked those too. OH HOLLY was her name and .... uhh... dunno, anyway, I hated it when they got voted out and annoying people stayed. So I think the producers finally decided to figure something out to stop favorites from going home. America loves Dick, that is why they picked him to win it all Well, it did occur to me that Dilana had all of Hollywood's rock scene dialing cell phones for Dick every week though... hehe
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 21, 2007 12:17 AM
I wonder if astrocartography could play a part at Big Brother. Where have all the winners lived?IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 4931 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted September 21, 2007 10:04 PM
hehe I haven't got a clue on that one. I don't remember that sort of thing... other than Donatto's in Hollywood it seems. Now, my shows are Survivor and Kid Nation.
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 22, 2007 01:49 AM
Dr. Will and Mike Boogie also live in the L.A. area. Maybe winners of Big Brother do well astrologically in LA?I like Kid Nation. I watched the first Survivor show, but it might be like previous seasons where I watch the first few, but then end up interested in something else... like Pam and Jim's relationship on The Office. Sad, I know.  IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 4931 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted September 22, 2007 02:11 PM
hehe I love The Office. I got to watch all of the re-runs. But maybe I missed the new one on Thursday because I was watching Survivor? I really need to finally learn how to use that VCR, now that it is obsolete... hehe I figure it out but then I forget before I decide to use it again. Well, did we miss the first episode then? I saw the preview where he asked her to go on a date. Office comes on after Survivor though, I think, or it did for a while because when I was going to veg in front of the tv, I always turned it to The Office after Survivor on Thursday. Thursday was my veg night, I watch E.R. when it is not re-runs too. The only thing I have been watching during re-run season was Big Brother, which was enough since it is on constantly, and a game show thing when I needed something to watch when I am feeling too lazy to function. But I often watched Frasier re-runs at night because my mind is so tired from reading and typing homework all day, it is a welcome brain nap and keeps me company a bit. Before this semester started I watched Scrubs too on late night. I'm a tv junkie.  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 22, 2007 09:17 PM
The Office hasn't started back up yet. Maybe this week. It was on after Survivor this week. It does seem to me like something always inevitably drags me away from Survivor, though. If nothing does this year, then maybe I'll watch it. Isn't it starting very late? Isn't it normally a summer show?I love Scrubs. I watch reruns of that between 7 & 8 on Comedy Central when I'm home. I stopped watching ER a long time ago. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 26, 2007 07:01 PM
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MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 4931 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted September 26, 2007 09:45 PM
That's a sale? I'm too uhhh too thrifty for that. Just kidding though... I have come to appreciate why everyone thinks so highly of Liz Greene. I loved the groupovenus reports though! Thank you!!! Mine was interesting... I haven't read yours yet and I haven't entered my daughter's info and read hers yet, so I haven't formed a full opinion on the child charts yet. I finally looked at her sample report by Liz a couple days ago. Reading her chart can disturb and exhaust me because it is hard to look at the challenging aspects etc... then I have to come up with a plan to channel them in the best possible way etc... I really appreciate it though... I want to look at it eventually and that site is REALLY helpful. It makes it hard to focus on my other studies when there is such a wealth of astrological information coming my way lately. Thanks!!! Watched Kid Nation tonight, you probably haven't seen it yet... they had to decide whether they should just keep eating beans or kill a chicken or two (that they had been hugging and loving and taking care of for a few days or week or something). I would say more but it is more interesting to see how it plays out. I came to tell you how cool it was though and to not miss it if you plan on watching this show!  Ick, I'm coming down with my daughter's cold and this is all the excitement I can muster. hehe It was a very interesting episode to me though, and to my daughter. We talk about what is happening. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 26, 2007 10:45 PM
Yeah, I didn't think it was much of a sale either, but since you had expressed interest in it I thought I'd tell you. Now I'm going to have to examine what I'm going to watch tonight. Oh! Kid Nation is undisputed in it's time slot. I guess that answers it. The little boy that went home last week, Jimmy, what do you think his sign was? I thought he might be a crab.
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 26, 2007 11:20 PM
I love the dark-haired kid with the glasses in the red (Jared) that they get commentary from on nearly everything. I'm guessing he's a Pisces for some reason. He's so entertaining.The girl who staged the chicken coop lock-in I'd guess to be a Cancer again. IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 4931 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted September 27, 2007 03:36 PM
Is Jared the troubled teen who acted out and created trouble the whole first episode and then began to work super hard when he saw that the gold star was out there? (He is the one who cut the heads off of the chickens) Since they didn't pick him right away because they thought he might stop trying if he got the $20,000 star right away, he thinks now that he never has a chance at the star, that they will never give it to him, that it is just unfair. The previews for next week show him trashing everything. That brief glimmer of faith was so beautiful in him though. He said he would have money for college. I believed him with all of my heart in that moment, but I'm uncertain of how he is thinking now. He really thinks everyone is against him and he thought it about all of them from the minute he got there before he even gave them a chance. The little one who went home is Jimmy? Rosie kept saying Jimmy this week and I didn't know which person she was talking about. Now I see. She remembers Jimmy. I was going to talk about the young man who did receive the star, who kept saying the inspiring and visionary things that kept reminding them why they were there in the first place... so I checked your post to see if you said his name and then it came to me that Jared is not who I thought he was. Yes, I remember the boy in the red with dark glasses. He kept smiling and almost falling off his log or barrel or whatever he was sitting on. I didn't consider his sign. The plump sensitive farm girl who breaks horses... it is hard to tell... she loves the animals so much and feels for them and even said, "Animals are friends" and something about someday people realizing it. I think she has a lot of Pisces. I'll have to remember that older troubled boy's name for next time. I pay attention to him the most. Can they get rid of only one council member or does it have to be all of them? That one little beauty queen is something else, especially for motivating her team. She acts helpless a lot, but I guess she also almost went home that first week. I love how adults always want to get rid of each other (like on Survivor and BB) and these children always beg and encourage each other to stay. Rosie and I went through a vegan crisis journey that episode. Wonder what she will be thinking next time she has chicken noodle soup. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted September 27, 2007 04:38 PM
Yeah, Jared's the constant commentator. He's the one who said, "As Shakespeare would say, 'To kill or not to kill...that is the question.'" I find him infinitely amusing. He's also Red Team Mike's biggest fan it seems. I think he was also the one walking over the barrels in the last shot of the show.I'm not sure what the name of the troubled teen is, maybe James? Who won this week? That was Michael, right? I don't know. Pouty animal girl didn't seem like the signs associated with animals and pets (which for me are Virgo, Sag, Aries, and maybe Taurus). I agree she could be a different water sign, though. I wonder if the other teams would have been allowed to help the lagging green team complete their assignment within the hour. I'm sure they would if they could. I also think that particular shade of green is not very inspiring for that team to have to wear. I could be proud in any of the other colors, but that green just seems like it would dampen your spirit. It's not bold enough. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted October 03, 2007 11:13 PM
So much for Greg's gold star.  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted October 03, 2007 11:36 PM
That yellow kid was cool wrangling those sheep. It was interesting watching him do that dance with the bull, too.I don't know what to think about the microwave vs. pizza decision. I'm not sure how practical a microwave would be for what they're having to cook. IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 4931 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted October 06, 2007 09:45 PM
I wonder how many adults are on the camera crew and who else supervises etc. I was thinking that if I was a parent and watching my kid about to get gored by a bull, I wouldn't be too happy. But they probably know his farming/ranching talents on the show so they knew he could do it or they cut some parts.  And the religious parents whose daughters had never heard anyone swear (who may have been somewhat pacified by the $20,000 payoff hehe... uh, I mean the littlest girl getting the gold star on her birthday) I think this is a really good learning experience with Greg. I'm sure he has problems with adult authority and he is beginning to see that certain rules are for certain reasons etc. I like the show a lot. Survivor is a trip this year.
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted October 07, 2007 02:59 PM
Yeah, I missed Survivor this week I was watching our hockey team's season opener. We tied in regulation, and then lost in the shoot out.Oh, I just saw Hung win Top Chef. I missed the last few of those. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 14540 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted January 10, 2008 09:43 PM
Hello my Reality Television chat homey!First, I have to ask if you saw last week's Extreme Home Makeover? That lady's eyes were a trip. Every time she was doing one of those interview sound bites her eyes were as wide open as they could possibly be. She was a school teacher, and my gf and I couldn't help but wonder if she looked so scary while teaching. Also, I wanted to let you know that HGTV's Dream Home contest is on: http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/dream_home_2008/text/0,,HGTV_30596_65584,00.html They give away one newly built, and totally decked out house every year. They're usually pretty amazing. IP: Logged |
juniperb Knowflake Posts: 7234 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Mar 2002
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posted January 10, 2008 09:56 PM
I heard a rumor Big Brother will be back this Feb. A closet Big Brother watcher  ------------------ ~ What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~ - George Eliot IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 4931 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted January 11, 2008 12:39 PM
I've already decided the Universe doesn't want me to leave the house this winter what with Idol, Big Brother AND Survivor all being on this season. I'll have to blow the dust off of the VCR probably. This might be the only thread I visit once school starts  Juni, come gossip with us about BB! I'm a closet Apprentice watcher. But I have to come out of the closet to discuss Gene Simmons before they boot him off! Oh, I don't watch those shows, AG. Just uh *cough* Apprentice and I like a little game show from time to time depending on how lazy or mentally tired I feel. The suitcase open one uh... Howie Mandell. DEAL OR NO DEAL Yeah, I've watched three lately because there is more than one Million dollar case. And I never enter contests because I hate calls/junk mail etc but I entered that one, AG. Thanks to you, I'm going to win a house! 
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