posted November 11, 2004 10:50 PM            

Are you kidding about baptism?

I don't want to be considered following a cult by undergoing a baptism? Why did Jesus encourage it ? Beats me. Only reason I thought was (in the early days, when I do it people would follow me and it would catch on. Now external things really do not matter as everyone knows God is within, so why the External exhibition. Wonder if Yeshua would forgive me if I die with out being baptised? In the old days, anxious parents would baptize small kids within months of being born. Thinking their soul would go in Limbo if they were not baptised before death. Hmm, indeed humanity has gone thru so many changes. Isn't God patient?

Waiting for Gia's response to Dean.

posted November 11, 2004 11:42 PM            

Yes, still waiting for Gia. She'll be coming around the mountain when she comes.

posted December 06, 2004 05:11 PM            

As always,

posted December 06, 2004 10:35 PM            

Gia

posted October 04, 2005 09:59 PM            

Why would you bump this thread? Well it was a refresher. My own understanding has jumped heaps and bounds. I hope

Also I noticed you asked
"What did the ass/donkey represent to the Mystical Jesus?"

Ass/Donkey are the lower Nafs? It sure got answered looks like? Can't remember by whom

How I miss Magidivision? The man sure knew a lot of things. I am not absolutely sure if he knew Jesus so well.

I think I am beginning to understand Jesus/Mary much better in my own way.

And Jesus is not a reincarnation, his body is indeed made of special light as told my Magidivision. And he was born thru a woman too for a reason.

Heaps of love.

posted October 04, 2005 10:38 PM            

quote:

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Isn't it funny how things turn out?
No matter good or bad, politics always wins?
This law now seems to be universal everywhere.
So if one wants to win, play good politics.

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posted October 05, 2005 12:52 AM            

I have also left for you a poem here. Hope you like it. :
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum17/HTML/001040.html

posted October 05, 2005 10:16 PM            

You are certainly on the right path with the donkey / nafs. Ride or be ridden , the choice is ours.

If I may take the liberty to infer, Magidivision knows Jesus in a Way I can only aspire to.

The poem is revealing and your journey appears fruitful. We plod on Thank you for sharing.

Do you believe Jesus was lacking fire in his composition to indicate trancendance?

Blessings

posted October 06, 2005 04:10 PM            

The Qu`ran (sura 7:11 & 12) says Iblis (satan) was created from fire, adam from clay. Quite the difference to contemplate !

Blessings,

posted October 06, 2005 09:03 PM            

Some say He was born of both water and fire.
Hence he reenacted his baptism and then chrism by the holy spirit.

Some even say he comes from the land of Saviors. A place of true Sons of God. These were created by the first Light that ever appeared and they are always perfect. I think Magidivision desribed this as "needlessness".

posted October 06, 2005 11:01 PM            

Did he break the shackles (trancend) before he entered the material world or after?

The mysterious Angel has a name

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Some even say he comes from the land of Saviors. A place of true Sons of God

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I am unfamiliar with this Teaching. Would you please elaborate on it?

All Masters tell of Jesus`s Needlesness.A State/Station that all Creation aspires too?

Blessings,

posted October 06, 2005 11:59 PM            

Some say it was written in the first century AD some 4-5century AD. So I edited my original post. I have also added an example for more clarification by adding a reference to the X-men movie, when time stops.

I don't maintain a notebook/diary and then cut-paste. May be I should do that hehehehe...

You asked was he unbound before or after he entered birth. Well thats where reality meets myth. I honestly do not know, everyone philosophises (hope I said that right) based on their realities. For example Linda seems to suggest that he didn't have a special status, and he mastered each sign blah...blah....blah....
Catholics says, he went on to get crucified. Then some old texts do believe in his crucifixion and even mentions about him going to hades to take Adam and other souls , to heaven. There is no limit on the philosophies.

If you ask me what I believe in? I do believe he was crucified. Well someone has to pay a price to set you free correct? May be he desired that he fill us with his light so that we become perfect as him. Now did he feel pain on the cross? He may be needless but he was also born from Mary and therefore had a humanity side to him. And therefore he would have felt the pain.
But then I read else where about how the it was prohibited to lash more than 40 times or somthing like that. Forty blows is still a lot on naked skin.

Plus most of it also came from Oral tradition. Quite later, some saints even had graphic dreams of his crucifixion, and they quite match.

You also asked what is the land of Saviors, the answer is in that URL provided. It talks about creation and all those confusing at first, "Son of Man" "Son of God" ,"Lord" etc....
An important thing emerges in that link, that is this matter world is because of the incest of father and daughter. Well I could speak some more, but refraining because the people at LL must not consider me to be profane

You also asked "Who was this mysterious angel?" One of the thousand year old books had a story where Mary is prevented in revealing to world about this mysterious angel. Where fire would come and consume whoever speaks. So I better zipup before its time to speak, than become SHC spontaneous human combustion.

posted October 07, 2005 03:17 PM            

For the sake of Clarity, I did not ASK who the Angel was, I stated the Angel HAS a name ( adding now that it has been given in Holy Text) . On that premise, you have no need to zip up or combust

X-men? Never heard of them.

I am quite familiar with the Nag Hammadi Texts. For me, it is the text which ties all the Holy Texts together.

I Didn`t read the Sons of God links; it was your insights I wished to hear.

Blessings,

posted October 07, 2005 05:33 PM            

I know what name you have. But no that is not the name I came across when I read the texts. Keep seeking,

posted October 07, 2005 06:04 PM            

I will send you by email the scriptural texts referring to similar scene if you are interested.

posted October 07, 2005 10:29 PM            

I am not a psychic, so I do not profess to know what you know regarding Angel Names. They( Angels) are part of my studies so, if you deem it worthy, I would be receptive to you e mailing me the Tractate you are refering to for contemplation. I do enjoy a good hunt

Blessings

posted October 10, 2005 12:47 PM            

Does anyone have a way that I can get in touch with magidivision? I've just recently come across this link and it seems that i've come a little too late? I will be reading through his responses to this link again this evening but if someone can/will - i would like to get in touch with magidivision.

thanks!