posted October 18, 2005 01:19 PM            

iamthat - i went there and got sidetracked, detoured or realigned - thanks for pointing in that direction though. it turned out to be a very interesting trip. i am still confused to what you meant by proxy and stuff - but then, i guess it's something like this new format on this radiostation in town that use to be an oldies station but is now converted to some sort of multimixback in the day stuff but not quite oldies and there isn't a "person" behind the mic but some sort of recorded thingamagig. that's kind of what you meant by proxy, right?

dafreman -
"“In the fifth valley, the lover requires you to seek unity. You must no longer be scattered and forgive everything along the way. You are in Mars. The Scorpion loves this. It is a battle with oneself.’"

guess you figured, i needed to read that yesterday and i certainly did. I really really did.

posted October 18, 2005 11:57 PM            

Scratching my head and wondering how did I get involved again in this? Saw that Juniperb had bumped the post.

(Everyone there was no judgement made so to speak. No compulsions either. People took their own decisions and left LL on their own accord some decided to stay. I think for new comers, like Amisha, they must really read GU and make their own decisions rather than reading this thread. )

posted October 19, 2005 12:13 AM            

release illusion'

Seeds not to be sown!

Magidivision is Magidivision

Daf forgives the I

No more no less

Why?

posted October 19, 2005 01:39 AM            

-IAT

posted October 19, 2005 01:33 PM            

it's funny - i read the words posted by magidivision and i didn't think to wonder who magidivision was but i just wanted to read more of it.

as for daf - it was just a really good thing for me personally - i didn't get to the point of incorporating it in a much broader sense yet.

posted October 19, 2005 02:03 PM              

There is nothing for me to forgive other than the I in me and the I's in all of you. For the WE of us has never done anything that requests or requires forgiving.

It is when I comandeers the energy that we are endowed with for selfish or misguided purposes that I may feel the need to be forgiven. Forgive..and all is forgiven.

Love,

daf

posted October 19, 2005 03:44 PM            

Again those last statements were my beliefs. There are people here in LL who thinks Magidivision and his proxy is one and same. Even that He is actually a She..Just so that you know.

Any of Magidivisions disciples here please note that I do not like to be dragged in this. I had enough of it already. I for one believe in honesty right from the beginning no matter how ugly it is.

Daf,

You said "Although "I" does not enjoy people speaking for "me", that is really "my" problem and not another's. "

I think you are selfish in a way by ignoring what I said earlier "It is a problem if someone begins a post addressing someone and then calls a different name." I purposefuly chose, not to call it a sarcastic remark. I was actually waiting for Juni to explain where she was coming from. I have tons of questions for her like "Why the bump?" , "Who is Daf to forgive I?"

All,

I am not responding to any topics addressed to me on Magidivision again.
I think I said enough already.

posted October 19, 2005 04:07 PM            

the selfish and misguided part is what i most shun but quickly use as an excuse to satisfy that which i cannot forgive in myself.

posted October 19, 2005 06:35 PM              

Hopefully, knowing that this response adresses you will make it easier for you to overlook any selfishness I might have exhibited earlier.

Who would have guessed that by writing, I could so easily have set myself up to be judged by another? (Particularly by you, brother.)

Is it perhaps that when we speak our name, others hear their own? Could it be that the words you read merely brought out some as-yet-unknown reaction?

Is there something any of us could do to help?

Please don't ask that we stop going through the motions of our own existence in order to cater specifically to the needs of your conditioning. That would be a difficult world to exist in, indeed. (As you can no doubt attest, having lived it..)

When the wind blows against us, then moves on, we don't lament its moving on, nor do we suffer for the attention it gives to others.

When we are given a moment of another's attention, has that other then chained themselves to us, from then on?

Your need for respect is known now. Your feeling that you are often misunderstood and ignored has been revealed to us. Some will adjust our interactions with you accordingly, lovingly.

Others of us will be unable to comply with the demands of your reaction's wanting. Will you forgive then? Lovingly?

It is my understanding that what Juniperb wrote above was a poem. It is a poem that happens to contain a line about daf (that's me most of the time..) I'm flattered that she chose to share...and I'm glad you did too.

Be well. Help me, by example, to be gentle and purposeful with my energy and my anger. You are my mirror after all. I look to you for answers...

Love,

posted October 19, 2005 06:41 PM              

quote:

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Well Magidivision exists but does not exists. Let me explain, there was a scandal where we found out that Magidivision had a proxy. More you can find in the Global Unity forum.

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I wholeheartedly agree with you that Amisha should judge for herself, as I'm sure she will.

Hopefully her jury will not tarry as does mine.

posted October 19, 2005 08:11 PM            

>>>>>Hopefully, knowing that this response adresses you will make it easier for you to overlook any selfishness I might have exhibited earlier.

Certainly it does. I believe that each human is important and must be treated with dignity. For instance, even some one addressing you with daf and not Daf I believe is an insult. Well I have my own reasons to believe what I believe. I know
that you would respond by saying ego and all that. But heh you and your neighbors
are here to learn the lessons. If someone is cause of my grief or I if have grieved
anyone, I always believe in approaching the neighbor directly and asking him Why?

>>>>>Is there something any of us could do to help?
Thanks much. I am set out to find my own truth.

>>>Please don't ask that we stop going through the motions of our own existence in order to cater specifically to the needs of your conditioning
What you consider as my conditioning, I consider it as your ignorance. Ignorance of not acknowledging your neighbors. Never commit the sin of addressing your neighbor indirectly. And I will never hesitate to speak out what I feel.

>>>>When the wind blows against us, then moves on, we don't lament its moving on, nor do we suffer for the attention it gives to others.
Neither do we bump in to each other when the force of the wind is strong. Our feets are also grounded in reality when we eat, work, type, etc. And although we are enjoying the breeze we are also aware of the neighbor next to us.
Am I in his way? As long as one lives he dare not cause grief to his neighbor for
the wrong reasons.

>>>When we are given a moment of another's attention, has that other then chained themselves to us, from then on?
I believe Yes. And honestly I didn't wanted to chain you. With all due respect. Everyone must pay attention to detail. When the protocol breaks, someone should always speak up and someone always does. Its all from God, Dear Daf. God is also a balancer.

>>>Your need for respect is known now. Your feeling that you are often misunderstood and ignored has been revealed to us.

I do not care at all for respect of me. I think I told you earlier what I objected to. If this happened to anyone else, and he would have raised a voice, I would have supported him. I believe that you have not understood me nor do I expect you to.
There is no glove made in the world that fits all hands. Likewise each human is different on their own stage in their Journey perceiving things differently.

>>>>Some will adjust our interactions with you accordingly, lovingly.
I honestly have no expectations, call me a joker, a sinner, a dark soul or praise me. But theres a protocol we all must adhere to in dealing with Humans. When that is violated, I somehow notice it instantly.

>>It is my understanding that what Juniperb wrote above was a poem. It is a poem that happens to contain a line about daf (that's me most of the time..) I'm flattered that she chose to share...and I'm glad you did too.

Thanks for sharing. I am still waiting to hear from the Horse's mouth.

>>>Be well. Help me, by example, to be gentle and purposeful with my energy and my anger.
I appreciate your time on me as well and hope that you have learned from me as much as I did from you.

>>>You are my mirror after all. I look to you for answers...
Well every soul is also made of water and hence we all serve as mirrors for each other.

posted October 19, 2005 08:14 PM            

IAT

posted October 20, 2005 03:38 PM              

If everyone knew this, embraced it and lived it, the number of misunderstandings between human beings would be greatly reduced.

Now that you've made it known to us that you have no expectations, and that you do not require anything of others...

For the sake of clarity, would you please state specifically what caused this unpleasant misunderstanding?

It might be helpful in avoiding future miscommunications if we knew.

Love,

posted October 20, 2005 04:48 PM            

Never mind. Where there are belief based systems there will be misunderstandings. Its not serious and not worth the energy we must all spend. I will communicate clearly in future posts some of the misunderstandings.

Looking forward to be with you all in LL.
And a big Hello Daf once more.

posted March 28, 2019 01:34 AM            

They had a brotherly fight.
They are both Annunakis.

Somewhere down the road when one of their clan detonated the bomb. Anyone remember story from the bible when Lot approaches one of them and asks will they destroy the city if they find one good man of honor?

Apparently, they all vanished from the face of the earth. The temples were empty since then.
no one took offerings to them.
Do read Sitchins books for good insights.

posted March 28, 2019 01:34 AM            

They had a brotherly fight.
They are both Annunakis.

Somewhere down the road when one of their clan detonated the bomb. Anyone remember story from the bible when Lot approaches one of them and asks will they destroy the city if they find one good man of honor?

Apparently, they all vanished from the face of the earth. The temples were empty since then.
no one took offerings to them.
Do read Sitchins books for good insights.

posted March 28, 2019 01:34 AM            

They had a brotherly fight.
They are both Annunakis.

Somewhere down the road when one of their clan detonated the bomb. Anyone remember story from the bible when Lot approaches one of them and asks will they destroy the city if they find one good man of honor?

Apparently, they all vanished from the face of the earth. The temples were empty since then.
no one took offerings to them.
Do read Sitchins books for good insights.