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future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 264 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 10, 2011 12:46 AM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 3116 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2011 01:48 PM
It makes sense; I've felt like that over the past couple of years. You have a better attitude than I do, though!I'm reading this book called, "I'm Spiritual, Dammit!" that I was reading parts of in the bookstore, earlier this year, (and late last year, when I wasn't distracted by anything else). They then moved it on me, so I only just found one copy on Saturday night, when I ended up buying it (they're going out of business). At times throughout the book, the author repeats you are right where you're supposed to be. I don't necessarily believe that - I think I got way off track somewhere - but I keep repeating it to myself, anyhow. Of course, nobody said that being right where I was supposed to be, meant that I had to continue maintaining bad habits, amongst other things.  For making it to page nine, and away from 2009:  IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 264 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 11, 2011 12:08 AM
Teasel, I really don't have a good attitude about it. Not in "real life," anyway. I'm kind of more "dead" now in some ways, or maybe not dead, just not here? In limbo? I'm sure you know what I mean. On one hand, it's a sort of giving up, and in another way it's just a matter of not wasting my energy swimming upstream and waiting for opportunities to get out of "this," even if just in small ways.Almost all of my issues revolve around my husband. *Sigh* I don't even know where to begin with this. I've been wanting to go into it for a while, but I don't even know what to say. Everything is really good. At the same time, everything really sucks. I've come to realize that although he and I have a great friendship (of sorts) he is not really "there." As in, I suspect he may be a narcissist or have some other sociopathic sort of issue. I'm still trying to sort this out and make sense of it. Mostly, nothing feels "real." I think he means well. I know he really cares about me and our family, but there's something missing. Additionally, he's very ambitious-- two years ago we started our own business (against my wishes) and things are going well, but my problem is that he's not at all conscientious and I feel like a lot of things get dropped in my lap. It's just exhausting. It's...complicated. It's so easy to get swept up in his whims, simply because there's really no other choice. Long story short, I've digressed from my own path and if I don't get involved in his aspirations, we're screwed because he's not great with details and those details will make or break us. Ultimately, I don't really love him anymore, even though I have a great deal of affection for him. On paper, I love my life-- we have a family, we own a business and two (very modest) homes. But he's kind of a trainwreck of a person. So easy to live with (not demanding, easygoing) and yet impossible (not realistic, always taking on new things that get dumped in my lap.) It's quite hellish, but hard to talk about because on the surface it doesn't look like anything is wrong. Mostly, it just feels very Alice in Wonderlandish, where I'm going down the rabbit hole and nothing makes sense. Sucks, sucks, sucks, especially when, to the best of his abilities, he adores me and wants our family to stay together. :/ So there's a guilt factor thrown in on top of everything else. More on this when I actually have something to say. I could ramble on forever and not seem to make sense! In a nutshell, I feel like I should just cut my losses and leave, but if I do, I'll never be able to do the things I want to do because I'll be struggling to take care of myself and the kids. Of course he would help, but we don't make enough at the store to support both of us separately. I go to counseling monthly which has been so helpful as I try to sort through this. Most of the things I read about narcissists and the like are really horrendous, and he's not like that, but it's still horrendous in its own way. Over the last few years we had some really dark times. Things only began to improve when I stopped expecting the things from him that I would require for a meaningful relationship. It's really kind of win/lose. And my heart goes out to him because he really wants things to be different but he doesn't know how and I'm tired of playing guru games, especially when they all lead back to square one. So! That was a lot of muck.  I just need to start getting it out there because it's too much to carry around anymore.  IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 381 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 11, 2011 11:01 PM
I can offer a hug and a listening ear.I understand you when you say that it looks great on paper. And theoretically it's 'fine' ( Who wants a fine life, anyway? I want Juicy!) I believe in you. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Moderator Posts: 5473 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted August 11, 2011 11:28 PM
I can SO relate with this. Since you left, I left my husband and moved out on my own, but it didn't last very long.I was gone from feb to july. All the things I thought I hated, I missed terribly. All the things I wanted to break free from, I wanted back. It's heartbreaking and awful, and nobody can TELL you what to do, but here I am if you should need an ear.  IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 264 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 12, 2011 01:06 AM
Thank you both! I do need to talk about it and sort some things out. It's a tough decision-- stay with someone you love and who loves you, but who you can't be in love with, or throw it away and start fresh? More info later. It's a bit more complicated, but, circumstances aside, that's the gist. Gypsee, how long have you been together? And how are things now? Pix, I remember you going through some trying times in your relationship a few years back. It seems things are much better for you now. Without prying too much into your personal life, what would you say was the "aha" factor? Like, was it you or him or both? Did you just find a new way to work through things? As long as I'm here, I'm open to the possibility that today may be the day that things turn around. (Again, things are really pretty good. I'm just missing some very important things in life!) People grow and change all the time, and sometimes the smallest shift can make room for huge results. Who knows. I care for him deeply and we're quite attached. But I also can't help longing for a very different sort of life with a very different sort of guy. I've learned that there's a huge difference between loyalty and commitment. I'm still trying to figure out what that means for me... IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 381 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2011 02:53 AM
Hmmmm... It was me.. I was disloyal. In my quest to find out why I wasn't happy in my relationship, and inside, I really trampled on him, and I realized when I hurt him, it made me hurt so much more because of it. Rather than accepting that no one is absolutely perfect, I had built up this Neptune/Venus conjunct mythology to protect me, a romance inside that wasn't truly realistic. It couldn't possibly be. I wasn't honest with myself, and I started speaking up. I couldn't sublimate myself anymore and had to ask and demand for the things I needed to create a more whole me. No one can do that for me- I wouldn't have been happy with anyone.I guess for me, it was in the losing, I realized what I WAS losing. My children's sense of safety, sense of family, my own sense of love, all my securities- and I don't mean money... all those things you don't think are important.. they came flooding out and I was left bereft. It was not a change i wanted. But I know it had to happen so I would recognize that noone can read my mind, complaints would overwhelm me if they weren't spoken in any real way and attempted to become fixed. Everything must be nurtured. So we crumbled away and broke our hearts, and wow- it was a big heartbreak. Disentangling from my expectations hurt too.. I didn't want my convictions to be wrong. We camped out under the covers and remembered that we were the couple who was magical. We just had to stop looking at the practicalities and fill our lives with some more pixie dust. We just made our relationship important again. Everything else followed. That's MY story.... yours might be different. It's ever evolving... But I can honestly say I love him so much, and we are true partners. If I couldn't say that, then I think my story would be different.. and it takes courage to face either possibility. Constant doubts need to be answered.... please keep talking it out. The ebb and flow of life has to contain enrichment for only YOU, as well as for your family as a whole. I suggest you pursue your degree again.. can you do it part time? That's for you.... and you need to identify you before you can grasp the hole and sew it up with your fabulous rainbow patches. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Moderator Posts: 5473 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted August 13, 2011 03:05 AM
Future, we met when were both 19. Well, I did see him once in high school and I remember being transfixed by his umm, Tush, walking in front of me, and I told my friend that I thought he was cute, and she said, "Oh, forget it, he has a girlfriend, and she'll kick your butt!." LOL. I swear at that second, (and this was a LOUD school hallway, so he didn't hear me talking or anything) he turned around and stared straight into my face. Very weird. Anyway, so yeah, met for real and started dating when we were 19. It will be 25 years in September. This has always been rocky, on both sides. Alot of angsty, midlife crisis crap, and what's it all for, and I coulda been a contender, and all that. But three awesome kids, and a darling grandson.. so, guess we did something right.  We made alooooooot of mistakes, but we had a fast lifestyle for a long time. Anyway, what I just want to say, and I took it that pixie was saying something similiar, is that these long term things are like roller coasters, but TWO different coasters. Like you are on one, and your mate is on the other one,, and you can see one another, and sometimes you are both up, but alot of times one is up and the other is down. And down doesn't really mean, depressed, it can just mean 'not into it' IDK, this is hard stuff to analyze let alone type, but you know, my idea of marriage is a contract and a vow before God, and yes, I may have not been an angel, but I still kept in my heart that he was 'above all others' which is what I vowed to do. Sometimes you gotta carry the load for them, and then in turn, other times they will carry the load for you. That would be the emotional load, I mean. But, anyway, things are trying to get settled back down now, but with improvements. I know where I was being lax, and I figure that if I model the behavior I would like to have, it will manifest. That's my hope anyway...  IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 381 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 13, 2011 12:28 PM
quote: "and I figure that if I model the behavior I would like to have, it will manifest. That's my hope anyway... "
Awesome! And yes indeed.
Marriage is freaking tough. But then, so is life, and so is anything worthwhile....and...so are YOU. And You, And you, And Me. I'm glad that we have an outlet, and Gypsee has such wisdom from reality... remember many years ago, I was pretty public here about my journey.. yet I am glad I had it. Keep talking. IP: Logged |
Emeraldopal Knowflake Posts: 56 From: U Registered: Apr 2011
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posted August 13, 2011 12:34 PM
I LOve ALL the sharing you are ALL doing, It's Truly Healing, and everyOne is Learning and Growing from it!------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone IP: Logged |
Scorpionic_Web Knowflake Posts: 55 From: Registered: Feb 2011
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posted August 21, 2011 12:22 AM
Hey, Future.You've always been one of my favorites. I believe you understood me better than anyone else in this community. I guess we both took an absence around the same time. In August of 2009 I moved to Virginia with a pisces woman, began a whole new life, and completely fell out of touch around here. The pisces and I split after a year and a half. I've tried to renew my interest in astrology. I've made a few posts earlier this year, but I feel after numerous years of intense study, the last two years of neglect has caused me to lose some bit of intuition for the art. I've realized astrology must be exercised to stay sharp, and I guess I've become distracted. Amyway, maybe some day I'll find the inspiration to post my own thoughts here again. But it's great to see you back here. IP: Logged | |