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DD
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posted June 13, 2009 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this has nothing to do with the thread,

but isn`t that a beautiful day?
The sky is so blue, and the air so clear and warm, and everything is just vibrating with life.

A wonderful day to go and pick some flowers. Maybe even a narcissus.


Oh and the pomegranate, my mum has bought, is winking at me, too.

TR Saturn conjuncts my Persephone. (and squares Kaali and Karma).
TR Karma conjuncts my Pluto.

Tr Kaali squares Saturn and trines Moon and Karma (and opposes Draco Sun exactly).


PR Proserpina conjuncts pr ASC and natal venus and squraes natal Pluto.

Pr Kaali conjuncts ASC and SN (and Draco Moon) and opposes pr Valentine and NN and Neptune and trines natal Pluto and transit Karma.

Oh and Transiting Valentine hovers over my Saturn-Eros-Vertex-Destinn conjunction opposing my Sun-Moon-mp.

Yes, I think I`m going to go outside picking some flowers.

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venus in gemini
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posted June 13, 2009 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VenusDeLionesse,

Sending much love to you....for everything we've been through. (((hugs))

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posted June 13, 2009 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
with this guy I met a couple years ago we have:

my persephone quincunx his pluto
my pluto opposed his moon
my pluto opposed his venus
my moon square his pluto (3 degrees)
my mars and venus in his 8th house

I just don't think he's ready for this yet

I know he has feelings for me as we've met in dreams, and by the way he looks at me and whenever we are in the same place he is magnetized to my side. He is with someone else at the moment and I am respectful of that bond. But I've also been in the same room with him and his girlfriend and I haven't seen him look at her the way he looks at me. Sigh... Someday...

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Lara
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posted June 13, 2009 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VenusdeLionesse

It's ok.. l have some freaky past lives too... very dark and lots of karma.

I know you are very very enlightened - it's just an intuit thing. I always felt that even before i first spoke to you.

Hope you are enjoying your last life and it's not too much hard work

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Yrone
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posted July 07, 2011 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nevermind

ttfn ll

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posted July 04, 2012 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexyr14     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone
opposite Moon 10 cn 56' 2"

Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone opposite Mercury 10 cn 54'15"

Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone sextile Cyllarus 11 pi 48'19" Rx

Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone trine Rhadamanthus 12 vi 54'53"

Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone trine Sedna 2003 VB12 10 ta 2'49"

Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone square Apollon 11 li 57'56"

Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone conjunct Hidalgo 9 cp 52'46" Rx

Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone trine Atlantis 10 vi 48' 2"

Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone opposite Panacea 11 cn 30'48"

Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone opposite Askalaphus 9 cn 31'57"

Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone conjunct ASCENDANT 12 cp 37'11"

Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone conjunct HOUSE 1 12 cp 37'11"

Persephone 10 cp 59'35" Rx Persephone opposite HOUSE 7 12 cn 37'11"

Any Ideas?

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posted June 14, 2014 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to keep bringing up old threads, but I have a few questions. I checked in a synastry with someone and we do have a 2 degree quincunx between Persephone and Pluto, but its not showing up on the Astro.com grid. Does this still count though? We also have an exact square in Davison and that's it.
Do aspects between Persephone/Proserpina and Pluto have to be in synastry?

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posted June 14, 2014 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex has venus/pluto conjunct Perserphone and this conjunction opposes proserpina..

My Perserphone opposes his venus/pluto/perserphone and conjuncts his proserpina.

My Perserphone opposes his Pluto exact!

He is someone I would never cheat on and he makes me feel like a women more than anyone else and turned me into one.

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posted August 01, 2014 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump.

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I have a man's Pluto conjunct my Persephone 1 orb and his Pluto squares my Moon too! Boy, does he really want to capture me and steal my innocence.

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posted July 20, 2016 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*This ancient thread buuuuubbles up from the underworld*.. just for lil ol me to chime in that I finally discovered the Pluto-Proserpina conjunction on the South Node of our composite chart, in Scorpio, square our Sun Venus Mercury.

This conjunction is two degrees wide of my ascendant, conjunct his Saturn and vertex, opposite his mars, quite tight, all. Yeesh!! Makes so much sense though. Gonna ponder a bunch.

It comes of our Proserpinas being conjunct in synastry right around his Vertex and my Asc, and our Plutos straddling them.

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posted July 20, 2016 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also this one could stand to be in Interpersonal Astrology... :-)

I am loving reading over what folks were saying about them. I love how it changes my read of Pluto-South Node in our composite... wild...

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posted July 31, 2017 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Pluto is basically the same as Hades?

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posted July 31, 2017 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Creepy how this story of Persephone and Hades seemed to play out in a real life crime series I watched.

A 16/17 year old girl's innocent embrace of a convict who is on parrole, spirals into a bizzarre obsession involving a foiled kidnap plan and evnetual re-arrest.

The sheltered teen from a strongly religious family stoked all sorts of desires from this ex-convict so deep, he dug a hole in his house and created a sound proof bedroom decorated with dolls identical to the ones in the teens bedroom

He watched her for many months/even years before his plan was thwarted by a visit from the police: Apparently he had violated a restraining order from the father of the daughter he was stalking.

His plan was to kidnap her and lock her into the make shift bedroom that he dug up for months. No one would hear her screams as the room would be soundproof.

In his mind,she was "his queen"and he would assure that they are together by getting her away from her so called overprotective family.

You can never make this stuff up. Wow!!!

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posted July 31, 2017 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Creepy how this story of Persephone and Hades seemed to play out in a real life crime series I watched.

A 16/17 year old girl's innocent embrace of a convict who is on parrole, spirals into a bizzarre obsession involving a foiled kidnap plan and evnetual re-arrest.

The sheltered teen from a strongly religious family stoked all sorts of desires from this ex-convict so deep, he dug a hole in his house and created a sound proof bedroom decorated with dolls identical to the ones in the teens bedroom

He watched her for many months/even years before his plan was thwarted by a visit from the police: Apparently he had violated a restraining order from the father of the daughter he was stalking.

His plan was to kidnap her and lock her into the make shift bedroom that he dug up for months. No one would hear her screams as the room would be soundproof.

In his mind,she was "his queen"and he would assure that they are together by getting her away from her so called overprotective family.

You can never make this stuff up. Wow!!!


Wow what was the name of the show you were watching?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 31, 2017 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The show was called Obsession : Dark Desires. The man in question was/is Frank Elmer.

I tried to find more information on him i.e date of birth. Would it not be chilling if he is a Pluto/Sun, Pluto/Moon individual? Yikes

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posted February 15, 2019 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Digging old thread.

Are we talking about Persephone (399) and Proserpina (26)?

In synastry:
His Pluto trine my Proserpina
My Pluto sextile his Proserpina
His Pluto parallel my Persephone.
My Pluto contra-parallel his Persephone.

In Davison:
Pluto sextile Persephone

I didn't abduct him. He didn't abduct me.
Is this like Venus-Pluto? What's the wow factor?

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posted June 09, 2019 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Add asteroid Hades(h41).

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posted June 10, 2019 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Add asteroid Hades(h41).

h41 is NOT an asteroid. It is an hypothetical planet, totally different game.

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posted June 10, 2019 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sunnya:
h41 is NOT an asteroid. It is an hypothetical planet, totally different game.


Should still be tested though, shouldn't it be?

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posted June 10, 2019 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
zombie threads!!!

ADDING
asteroid 949 Hel .. hell/hades?
asteroid 1865 Cerberus .. portal's guard dog

949 Hel and h41 Hades are in orb of 2 degrees in my chart.
So, the asteroid and hypothetical made a mix.

Forum-- This is Astrology 2.0.
Also fits Interpersonal Astrology,
(and/or Asteroid Astrology)

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posted June 10, 2019 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Should still be tested though, shouldn't it be?

You can't really test it with asteroids.

I think there used to be a good thread about hypotheticals, but the search function is not working for me...

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posted June 10, 2019 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
zombie threads!!! )

Totally!

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posted June 14, 2019 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by darkdreamer:
My Conclusion on the last post:

The aspect to the ASC (or DW) seems to be a MUST, before you can check for other aspects.

(Yes, I know, IQ, you always said that )


Looking at some celebrity-relationships:

Brad - Angelina:

his DSC conjunct her Sun
his ASC trine her Moon

Antonio - Melanie:

his ASC squares her Saturn
her ASC squares his Sun
her ASC trines his True Node


Friends of mine:
her DSC Conjuncts his Sun
her ASC conjuncts his DSC
his ASC squares her Venus
his ASC squares her Mars


Diandra and her boyfriend:
her ASC Conjuncts his Sun
her ASC sextiles his Mars
his ASC squares her Saturn


Friends of mine, who believe themselves to be soulmates:
her ASC conjuncts his Venus
his ASC quinkunx her Moon


my parents:
my Dad`s ASC exactly conjuncts my Mum`s Venus
(her exact time is unknown)


Paul McCartney - linda Eastman:
his ASC trine her Saturn
his ASC conjunct her True Node
her ASC sextiles his True Node

Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward:
his ASC sextile her Venus
his ASC conjunct her ASC
her ASC conjunct her Venus
her ASC sextile his Saturn

Johnny Cash - June Carter:
his ASC quinkunx her Mars
his ASC squares her Saturn
his ASC squares her Karma

Johnny Depp - Vanessa Paradis:
her ASC quinkunx his Sun
her ASC trines his True Node


'Spencer Tracey - Katherine Hepburn:
her DSC Conjuncts his Karma
his ASC trines her Sun
his ASC Squares her Venus


Richard Burton - Liz Taylor:
her ASC squares his Moon
his ASC trines her Moon

Hmm, interesting, all those couples have that ASC-aspect within 3°. And except for Johnny Cash and June Carter those aspects always included either a conjunction or a trine, at least a strong aspect. And In the case of Johnny and June her birtime is not known, so that could change it.

So, I definitely come to the same conclusion as IQ (not that I ever doubted it, but I like to see these things for myself to be completely amazed by the accuracy ), there should be a tight conjunction or trine to the ASC.
And only after that we should proceed to look for other aspects (at least if we are looking for soulmate-synastries. ).


What about an osiris/isis DW trine? Why do none of these people post here anymore? So sad.

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