posted February 01, 2009 08:20 AM              

but it is knowned that we met our Twin in our 1st and in our last encarnation.

Venus is at her last - so its natural to have met her Twin.

I do believe it is the case - but the one who knows best it is of course...Venus

posted February 01, 2009 08:31 AM            

Yes you do meet your twin and split souls or higher selves to be more precise in 1st incarnation and then reunite in the last one.

posted February 01, 2009 08:32 AM              

" am extremely familiar with higher selves and all this kind of topic"
You see, that is the problem I have with that talk among spiritual people.
Everyone claims to know the truth, to know how it feels and know what it is, like you claim to know what a Higher Self is and what it feels like.

The thing is: it could be, it could be true. It could be exactly what you say it is.

Or it could be not. It could be illusion.

It`s truth. Yes, but it`s your truth.

posted February 01, 2009 08:39 AM            

it is the ultimate meaning of life!!! EVERY religion's rod leds to oneness with the highest self. I abhor the word "spiritual"... it implies something that the highest self definitely is NOT!!!

It is not my truth alone; it is the truth of every enlightened soul upon the planet, however you dress it up DD.

Absolute Truth is absolute. It is no illusion.

I can say with almost certainty that Venus in Gemini has met a high level soul mate... not a twin soul.

VenusdeIndia is way more enlightened than she lets on and is probbly with her twin soul...

posted February 01, 2009 08:49 AM            

Personally, I believe the world unfolds differently for everyone so we each experience it uniquely. What works for one doesn't for another and so forth. If we create what we believe, then we each experience that enitrely unqiuely.

As Diandra so brilliantly stated, VIG can be the only one to know/recognise their own twin flame.

I don't believe that connection with twin flame is the ultimate. I think merging with ALL is the ultimate. But it entails releasing the sense of self. And to do that we would have to relinquish the fire in these discussions because they are fuelled by ego.

posted February 01, 2009 08:51 AM              

I don`t want to insult you, but noone KNOWS.

What you can know, 100%, is your personal truth. But it`s not universal.
That is MY truth.

So, if i say someone "claims" something, I don`t want to belittle what they believe, but it really is that, a belief, nothing more, nothing less.
And for you your belief is true, as is mine for me.

But knowing implies to be able to speak for EVERYONE, and noone can do that.
My opinion.

However, I edited something out from my last post, but decided to repost it:

My truth at the moment is like this:
It doesn`t matter. It doesn`t matter if he is Venus in Gemini`s Twinsoul or if anyone of this earth (including myself) meets their twinsouls. It`s just a label after all.

For me, everything I have read here, talked about, read in articles, feel, leads to this conclusion:
We complicate something that is in fact very simple. We analyse this Twinsoul-soulmate-thing to death (even though I LOVE analysing as you know ),
but in the end it`s all about love.
There are many different ways to experience love. But in the end that`s what matters. Love.

When we analyse love, we kinda split it up into tiny little pieces: love for a relative, love for a friend, love for a karma mate, love for a soulmate, love for a twinsoul, when actually love is all encompassing.
Love is the opposite of separation.
When you love someONE, you actually love the whole creation in him.

The thought I have had for some days now is this:
Maybe we shouldn`t just look for the plain answer of YES this is a soulmate or not (or twinsoul or whatever), but see (if we want to analyse it, that is) what KIND of connection there is, which themes will be dominant.
Is there chance for happiness?
Is it more about physical passion? Or spiritual love?

All these different focal-points are shades of love, maybe only illuminating one or two or three facets of the phenomenon "love".
And maybe the more facets of love we experience, the more we come close to this state of UNION and completeness (and I agree, LOVE as the feeling of completeness is already inside everyone`s soul, but maybe we need the ones we love, to remind us that it`s already there?), the more we start thinking in terms of soulmates and twinsouls, cause it seems that spiritual people regard TWINSOULS as the highest possible value.

posted February 01, 2009 08:53 AM            

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I think merging with ALL is the ultimate

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and pray may i ask oh enlightened one, what is the difference?? ALL is the higher self... !

ROFL

Some peace angel you are PA, to start assuming my insecurities.

EGO has nothing to do with this conversation except your ego now dictating and resenting the subject.

posted February 01, 2009 08:57 AM            

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Some peace angel you are PA, to start assuming my insecurities.

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posted February 01, 2009 08:59 AM              

lara

i think that neither of us here can say torwards another "no he is not your twin,or yes he is your SM" - we just are here to exchange our thoughts,our ideas our beliefs but in a personal level.

and being about astrology ,as DD said,even if it is unique for each one of us,we simply like to analyse and try to KNOW what kind of lessons,of Love,we can be experience (or will) when we are with our Soulmates/karmic mates or Twins.

posted February 01, 2009 08:59 AM            

and l agree that LOVE is everything and we, as LOVE are everything

BUT

LOVE can only exist truly in an UNconditional state and when you reach that UNconditional state, the LOVE you find is called your HIGHEST SELF.

So my truth is universal truth... geez, l haven't studied and applied this my entire life to be then told "it's your truth"

posted February 01, 2009 09:02 AM              

are you aware of how arrogant and narrowminded you come across?

Well, if you really think that the truth is absolute and only you have complete access to it, then I think it`s best our ways part here, cause I am not yet ready for YOUR truth, oh enlightened one.

posted February 01, 2009 09:07 AM              

we are not attacking but here are showing our honest opinions.

the fact is that:if you KNOW who you love and WHO that person is to YOU...why do you also ask astrological views about so many diferent guys?

JUst because in the end...you are also trying to find sth isnt it?

posted February 01, 2009 09:07 AM            

I don't need to look at why l pick on your snide remarks. They are your remarks not mine!

DD,
if you look at me as narrow-minded that is your prerogative.
I do not have complete access, which is why i'm alive! lol

I am asking you what you are because when you answer LOVE, you will have found your truth.
If you wish to get defensive then that is your issue.

I am only here to push people to their truths... l am not here to belittle nor be arrogant. I am far from arrogant as l have destroyed my ego over the last 25 years, out of choice.

to trivialize and make petty conversations such as these really shows a lack of awareness to oneself within the Universal realm. It is not necessary to be spiteful and bitchy but maybe l am showing you your next lessons

posted February 01, 2009 09:08 AM            

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and pray may i ask oh enlightened one, what is the difference?? ALL is the higher self... !

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posted February 01, 2009 09:12 AM            

I dissect everything and when l first came on this site DD, Venus and yourself were immersed in the "soul mate" thing... l was interested to see if it showed in astrology. It does.

I can only be a part of this research if l apply my own synastry's too. I find astrology fascinating yet it doesn't complete the picture (for me). It doesn't answer ALL the questions and it doesn't for you either, otherwise you wouldn't have asked me to look at your synastry.

I would never date a man because of synastry though although, it has helped me immensely in figuring out WHY l attract so many soul mates to me in succession and in short periods of time.

Is that fair enough?

posted February 01, 2009 09:14 AM            

I agree with DD here. I must say, I find you inconsistent and very fixed. It's easier for me not to deal with you in any way. I find that you change your argument and values to suit each thread.

This is the last time I wish to interact with you. Know that this is done with love. How you take it is within you. I have learnt a great deal from you, but not as you think. So I'm grateful for that. Thank you.

posted February 01, 2009 09:18 AM              

But my point is:Why do you claim you know VIG´s truth when in fact,we only know OURSELVE´S TRUTH?

there are UNIVERSAL TRUTHS yes - but even those,some or many people havent learned yet - and so we cannot go to them and make them force to believe.we must let them learn for themselves.

And yes - WE are in essence LOVE,and when we are capable of loving uncondicionaly and not letting our Ego´s take the lead,this means we have reached our Hghest Potencial

posted February 01, 2009 09:19 AM              

I am what I am
I don't want praise I don't want pity
I bang my own drum
Some think it's noise I think it's pretty
And so what if I love each sparkle and each bangle
Why not see things from a different angle
Your life is a shame
Till you can shout out I am what I am

I am what I am
And what I am needs no excuses
I deal my own deck
Sometimes the aces sometimes the deuces
It's one life and there's no return and no deposit
One life so it's time to open up your closet
Life's not worth a dam till you can shout out
I am what I am

I am what I am

I am what I am
And what I am needs no excuses
I deal my own deck sometimes the aces sometimes the deuces
It's one life and there's no return and no deposit
One life so it's time to open up your closet
Life's not worth a dam till you can shout out
I am what I am

I am I am I am good
I am I am I am strong
I am I am I am worthy
I am I am I belong

I am

I am

Who whoooo etc.
I am

I am I am I am useful
I am I am I am true
I am I am somebody
I am as good as you

posted February 01, 2009 09:22 AM            

My argument changes as my mind expands... the essence is always the same.
hahaha you see? You are resentful... a little quip "i have learnt a great deal from you, but not as you think"... did you also subconsciously stick your tongue out as you typed that? hahahahaha

I wish you the fruition of your lessons and the rising of your soul energy to love all individuals as if they were yourself and to really mean it when you say to another "i wish you much love and peace and happiness"

posted February 01, 2009 09:26 AM              

you have very valid points.

But if someone believes they know the absolute truth, they won`t see them.

If someone sais: "I know the universal truth", then everyone with a different opinion of course must be wrong. From their point of view that is even right.
And everything anyone else sais will just be interpreted in that light; either you`re right, because you agree, or if you disagree, you´re defensive, having issues, are not evolved enough, unenlightened, need to be pushed to the truth etc.

I personally think that only Venus in Gemini can know if she has met her Twinsoul or not. So I agree with you.