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Topic: Pluto - Persephone / Proserpine
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MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted January 28, 2009 05:49 AM
Heehee. Spinkini done gone crazy LOL Is there an asteroid called Armageddon? I feel the same way about Clive, Spunky  Too much time arguing and then making up over a mess of breakfast trays in bed  IP: Logged |
yellowmoon Newflake Posts: 0 From: Zagreb, Croatia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 28, 2009 09:01 AM
In synastry with someone I have my Persephone trine his Pluto, his Nessus conjunct my Venus, my Nessus trine his Venus...Where can I find out what all those aspects mean? I really don't know anything about asteroids ( or very little ):-D - what they represent, how they affect synastry between two people - this all is totally new to me. Any help would be great  IP: Logged |
yellowmoon Newflake Posts: 0 From: Zagreb, Croatia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 28, 2009 09:19 AM
I've found this : http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014837.html But still, I'd like to know more about Nessus and Persephone, especially in synastry. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 28, 2009 09:51 AM
Spunky - Spanky, "EVIL WOMAN!!!!!" You got me! I am evil. I am a messenger of Pluto trying to lure you into his underworld. Or was that in that case the messenger of Gerry luring you into his cave, where he hides his disfigured face from the cruel world?
 "YES because DD monkey say & spanky monkey DO!!!!" That`s how I like it.  "Pluto conjunct Prosepine!!!!" Of course. Did you expect anything else?  Who`s the mad woman now? lol
BTW who is Pluto? Him? Oh - and that almost scares me - Rafe`s Pluto conjuncts my Persephone exactly. Eek, this Persephone doesn`t want to be abducted, at least not by this particular Pluto. "f we ever cross paths we are just gonna forget the world around us & "do it" in front of the whole damn crowd." Lol I want to see that. 
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posted January 28, 2009 10:16 AM
Nessus represents a very egoistical form of desire,t hat doesn`t really care for what the desired one wants. This raw lust and desire can lead to posessiveness, jealousy, uncontrolled lust, manipulation, power play, even abuse or rape. Nessus in tense aspect to Venus can mean that the NEssus person wants to posess the Venus-person so much, that he or she will not understand the word "no". I have often read Nessus relates to abusive situations, but I must also say that it seems to appear in passionate relationships. Celebrity example: Johnny Depp and Vanessa Paradis.
I think if there are mitigating factors it might symbolize a strong desire for the other person, mixed with jealousy and posessiveness, that feeling of "You are mine", but without the abusive twist. IP: Logged |
Iqhunk unregistered
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posted January 28, 2009 11:10 AM
It is almost official now. Pluto-Persephone or Pluto-Persephone is the numero uno planetary link confirming a soul mate relationship.I checked 3 sure shot soul mate/twin flame relation ships. It is there, staring at me. Venus-Pluto is not even half as strong.
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meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1141 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 28, 2009 11:11 AM
DD,Keep your Persephone away from my man's Pluto!!!!! Homewrecker!! IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 28, 2009 11:17 AM
IQso pluto-persphone what? double whammy? conjunct? composite/synastry? how do we use it to check please? IP: Logged |
aqua/scorp unregistered
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posted January 28, 2009 11:23 AM
"It is almost official now. Pluto-Persephone or Pluto-Persephone is the numero uno planetary link confirming a soul mate relationship. I checked 3 sure shot soul mate/twin flame relation ships. It is there, staring at me. Venus-Pluto is not even half as strong."wow IQ you really think so?? Like i said earlier in the thread i can really relate to Persephone/Proserpine archtype and this guy to me feels like the Pluto. He views me as "innocent" and "untouched" and well paints himself with the opposite. Not to mention I also have a very close and good relationship with my mum like best friends even like sisters. EDIT:Although me and this guy have quiet alot of aspects which may suggest soulmate potential..i think this one nails it for me. I feel to familiar with the story almost attuned to it. IP: Logged |
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posted January 28, 2009 11:25 AM
Meta,I don`t want this. Believe me, pleaaaase? (But maybe, since it`s Persephone, it`s not so strong?). IQ,
that is SO exciting. I have always had that feeling that Pluto-Proserpine / Persephone might be a clue, but never dared to really believe it. I thought it was just my personal intrigue with the myth. In those twinflame relatioships; what aspects were these? Only conjunctions? Which orb?
Well, basically the same questions as Lara posed. IP: Logged |
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posted January 28, 2009 11:34 AM
Aqua Scorp,yes, me, too. It`s almost "humming" inside me, vibrant and vivid. Almost like something that is alive. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 28, 2009 12:02 PM
l checked my parentsmum.. pluto/sq peres 3 degrees in synastry dad... pluto trine peres 2 degrees in synastry seems to be one-sided aspects  Paul and Linda McCartney have no aspect.
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posted January 28, 2009 12:06 PM
One more comparision with the mythological couples:synastry: Moon sextile Sun Sun exactly novile Moon Jupiter exactly sextile Juno Zeus exactly sextile Juno Inannen square Adonis Adonis quinkunx Inannen Pluto exactly quindecile Persephone (I looked up the quindecile just on a hunch, but thought it was fitting here, as the aspect relates to obsession and Pluto was obsessed with Persephone / Proserpine) Composite:
Sun-Moon-mp conjunct Venus, Siva and True Node Siva square Kaali Adonis quinkunx Inannen Pluto exactly quindecile Proserpine Davison:
Sun-Moon-midpoint exactly conjunct Psyche and True Node (Jupiter exactly semisextile Juno Zeus exactly semisextile Juno) Siva exactly opposes Kaali Pluto exactly conjunct Proserpine IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 28, 2009 12:09 PM
ok DD, im noticing a pattern... not always aspects in synastry or composite BUT in DAVISON, ALWAYS an aspect within 2 degs what do you think? IP: Logged |
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posted January 28, 2009 12:16 PM
Lara,What do you mean? Onesided=? "Paul and Linda McCartney have no aspect." Yes, they have. In the Davison there is an exact sextile between Pluto and Persephone. And in the Draco`s there is something "cooking": his Pluto squares her Draco Proserpine exactly his Draco Pluto sextiles her Proserpine exactly her Pluto opposes his Draco Persephone exactly (there we have a VERY strong aspect) Her Draco Pluto trine his Proserpine Her Draco Pluto exactly quinkunx his Persephone
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posted January 28, 2009 12:19 PM
Lara,you mean ALWAYS in Davison any aspect between Pluto-Persephone / Proserpine within 2°? IP: Logged |
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posted January 28, 2009 12:23 PM
Well, Angelina and Brad have no such aspect in their DAvison. But the Pluto conjuncts Draco Proserpine (DAvison). Can you feel the shivers, too? lol
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Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 28, 2009 12:28 PM
by one-sided l mean no DW's  I have that aspect too! lol my dr proserpina opposes his dr pluto 1' in synastry Dr prosperpina conjunct Dr pluto 1' in davison his natal peresphone trine my Dr pluto 1' my natal pluto opposes his dr proserpina 2' IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 28, 2009 12:30 PM
thats what l mean!!! either in tropical or draco, in DAVISON it's always seemingly there.  I just checked out everyone on my list... IP: Logged |
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posted January 28, 2009 12:31 PM
How long was your list?  I checked Antonio Banderas and Melanie Griffith, but so far I have not yet found anything in Davison for them. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 28, 2009 12:39 PM
Sri/Mira have exact trine of pluto/peres in davison draco  oh, about 8 couples so far IP: Logged |
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posted January 28, 2009 12:42 PM
8 couples already? And every couple had that aspect?1) Well, my parents have it, too; 2) friends of mine, too (quindecile) 3) Angelina and Brad 4) Johnny and June 5) Paul and Linda 6) Johnny and Vanessa 7) Katherine and Spencer (exact semisextile; trine in the Draco) 8) Liz and Richard (exact square) 9) Paul and Joanne - nothing (but they had it in synastry) And their Pluto-Persephone-midpoint exactly opposes Moon! (in Antonio and Melanies Case their Pluto-PRoserpine-midpoint exactly opposes Draco Saturn - mmh, maybe a hint to check for the midpoints, too? Or are we including too much here?) IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 28, 2009 12:55 PM
yupALL have the aspect in draco and davison... very few have in composite and only one way in synastry (no DW) IP: Logged |
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posted January 28, 2009 01:02 PM
Yes, I noticed that, too. No DW`s in tropical synastry. Maybe so the roles become more evident and also the chance for complimenting each other?Have you looked at the midpoints of the Davison Pluto and Persephone / Proserpine in conjunction / Opposition to important points? I don`t know, maybe we are looking at too many possibilities here and clutter the charts. But in the case of Paul Newman and JOanne Woodward it was very interesting.
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Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 28, 2009 01:03 PM
I will look when kids are in bed cos right now they are trashing my house !!!Yeah, weird that no DW's in synastry... be back in about an hour.  IP: Logged |