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darkdreamer
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posted January 28, 2009 01:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A little research on the midpoints in Davison.

orb: 2°, only conjunction and opposition.


1) a gay couple (have been together for more than 12 years)

Pluto conjunct Persephone: 2,5°

Pluto - Proserpine-mp conjuncts Sun


2) Angelina Jolie - Brad Pitt:

Pluto - Proserpine - mp exactly conjuncts SN

3) Antonio Banderas - Melanie Griffith:

Pluto-Proserpine-mp exactly conjuncts Draco Saturn

4) Friends of mine:

Pluto-Persephone-mp conjunct True Node

5) Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward:

Pluto - Persephone mp exactly opposes Moon

6) Johnny Cash - June Carter:
Pluto-PRoserpine mp opposes Moon

7) Johnny Depp - Vanessa Paradis:

none
But the Pluto-Proserpine mp conjuncts her SN and opposes his Moon, highlighting their Moon-NN-conjunction in synastry


8) Spencer Tracey - Katherine Hepburtn:
Pluto-Proserpine mp exactly conjuncts Neptune

9) Paul Mc Cartney - Linda Eastman:
Draco Pluto-Persephone mp exactly conjuncts IC

10) Richard Burton - Liz Tayloer
Pluto-Proserpine-mp conjuncts True Node


Hmm, it looks interesting in the least. What do you say?

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ErickaF
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posted January 28, 2009 01:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG I did not want to believe this thread...I was like 'ha, how lame':-(...I know, I know, I am mean LOL.
My parents:
His Pluto is Exactly sextile my mothers Persophone.
My mothers Persophone Exactly sextile his Pluto. I almost teared up.
They have been together total, including marriage 34 years, and still in love :-).
I only checked Pluto, there are probably plenty of other aspects :-).

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Lara
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posted January 28, 2009 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
actually our davison SN exact conjuncts our prosperine LOL

and persphone/pluto midpoint exact trines our moon and prosperine conjunct pluto 1deg

pluto 25' virgo
proserpina 23' virgo
moon 23' capricorn
SN 21' virgo

my natal mars 21' taurus (making a grand trine with above)

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ErickaF
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posted January 28, 2009 01:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh wait...its only opp. and conjunctions. rigbht?

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darkdreamer
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posted January 28, 2009 02:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ericka F.,


so you think this thread is lame?


Well, with midpoints it`s only conjunctions and oppositions, in Davison and synastry it`s all aspects.
A sextile, especially an exact one, is absolutely valid.

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ErickaF
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posted January 28, 2009 02:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol sorry DD, just seemed like a funny thread.
But wow, this thread is absolutely great.
I have to research more.
Oh, is there any bo0oks about this, or websites about love asteroids?

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Lara
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posted January 28, 2009 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm meeting this guy tomorrow DD and i'm so excited!!!!
moon conjunct DC on the meeting chart, venus in 7th and sun in 5th woo hoo!!

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darkdreamer
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posted January 28, 2009 02:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That`s pretty cool, Lara.
#

in the synastry I posted a few posts ago, there is an exact conjunction of Pluto and Proserpine, which falls exactly onto the IC and conjuncts (3°) Valentine.

Looks like this:

Proserpine: 6 Libra
Pluto: 6 Libra
IC: 6 Libra
Valentine: 3 Libra

Of course that also means that the Pluto-Proserpine-mp falls onto our IC.

It also opposes Draco Sun.

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Lara
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posted January 28, 2009 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW that IS cool!

In synastry all l have is a mere pittance of:

my proserpina trine his pluto/osiris/isis and conjunct his juno and square his sun/NN exact.
my persephone conjunct his saturn exact

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posted January 28, 2009 02:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents had a 25 year marriage. 9 years since my mom's death and he has not even able to look at another woman for all these years.

Her Pluto sextiles his Persephone
His Pluto quincunxes her Persephone and quincunxes her Proserpine, making a Yod.

I have made many more checks. This is the real thing.

Ladies, this is it, this is the real thing. This is the celestial pair we all have to look at in a chart for an understanding of a True Love Soul Mate relationship.

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darkdreamer
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posted January 28, 2009 02:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops, I mistyped. That was the Davison.

In the synastry we have an exact quindecile of Pluto and Persephone.

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darkdreamer
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posted January 28, 2009 02:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ericka,

sorry, I don`t know if there are books. I know there are some websites on asteroids, but I haven`t bookmarked the addresses.

I am learning mostly from what I am reading here, especially from IQ, and from mythology itself.

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Lara
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posted January 28, 2009 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ

we are finding it to be a one-way aspect in synastry not a double whammy. Are you saying it only works as a DW???

How about composite or davison please?

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darkdreamer
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posted January 28, 2009 02:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Ladies, this is it, this is the real thing. This is the celestial pair we all have to look at in a chart for an understanding of a True Love Soul Mate relationship."


I don`t really know why, but I feel really good about this. It just feels so right.

So does it have to be in synastry or is it enough, if it is either in synastry or in composite or in Davison?

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Lara
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posted January 28, 2009 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok l found a dw in ours

my proserpina trine his pluto
his pluto sesquiquadrate his proserphina

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aqua/scorp
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posted January 28, 2009 02:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my synastry (tropical and i've included some Kundalini and Egyptian asteroids as they are quiet strong in my natal and this particular synastry already) i also found

My Persephone conjunct his Anubis (1)
My Persephone conjunct his Isis (2) and oppose his Lust (0)

His Proserpine conjunct my Ganesa (0) and conjunct my Valentine/Sappho (2)

I will get to our MP which are interesting.. for me i'm just looking mostly at conjunctions and oppositions for everything.


EDIT:

My Proserpine-Persephone MP=19'Scorpio=Nat Kaali conjuncts his Siva (wide) and opposition his Moon.

My Persephone/Pluto=2' Sag (nothing so far)

My Proserpine/Pluto=27 Libra=Nat DC conjuncts his Osiris (1) oppositon Mars (1) and squares his Sun too (1)

His Proserpine/Persephone =20 Pisces conjunct my Jupiter (1)

His Persephone/Pluto=22 Capricorn nothing here

His Proserpine/Pluto=13 Capricorn conjuncts my MC (2)


OK im going to stop there now because i feel some kind of addiction coming on to this thread lol but i feel this strong compulsion to continue!!!!

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darkdreamer
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posted January 28, 2009 03:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

I don`t think it NEEDS to be a DW. Even though if there is one or if there is an aspect configuration with this aspect, it might be stronger.


Aqua Scorp,

I still feel uncomfortable mixing up different mythologies.

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Lara
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posted January 28, 2009 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't either but it seems like the IQ jury's out

maybe he feels there should be?

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Diandra23
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posted January 28, 2009 03:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ

Is this your intuition talking?Cause i think you are a psysich

What makes you say what you say about all these asteroids?I am always fascinated and this is a lot coming from a Virgo sun,who normally would be very ceptical about all this.

I wonder if i have some crazy neptune aspects with you:that is the only reason to explain why i am mesmerized by your threads hihihi

Im trying to keep focused and not be too much "obssessed" of astrology though...


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I have made many more checks. This is the real thing.

Ladies, this is it, this is the real thing. This is the celestial pair we all have to look at in a chart for an understanding of a True Love Soul Mate relationship.


OK THIS IS IT with me and John:

SINASTRY

His Pluto (like Hades) opose my PERSEPHONE 0
His PROSERPINE semisextiles my Pluto 0
HIS PROSERPINE kikunkx my PERSEPHONE 1

NOTE:His PROSERPINE IS at 27Virgo:with the Sabyan of "Mary and her little Lamb"-so pointing to SoulMates isnt it?So i link it with my Pluto which for its conection also points torwards me as the Pair of his Proserpine?

My PROSERPINA trine his ASC 0

COMPOSITE

C.pLUTO cj C.PROSERPINE 1
C.Pluto cj C.Psyche (also worth of note)

DAVIDSON

Pluto is semiseztile PROSERPINE 1

DRACO

C.Pluto cj C.Proserpine cj his N.ASC 0

D.Persephone cj his D.Karma
D.Persephone kikunks my D.Karma
D.Prosepina/Venus cj my D.Sun

My D.Persephone cj his N.Persephone 1
My D.Proserpina trine his N.Karma 1

My D.PERSEPHONE opose his N.Pluto 3

HIs D.Proserpina cj my N. NN 3
His D.PERSEPHONE cj my PLUTO 3!!!!

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darkdreamer
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posted January 28, 2009 03:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra,

did you notice? I used you as an example again, when I started the thread (without names of course). Hope you didn`t mind. I thought your Pluto-Persephone / Proserpine aspects are outstanding.

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aqua/scorp
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posted January 28, 2009 03:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD

"Aqua Scorp,

I still feel uncomfortable mixing up different mythologies."

oKI

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spunknini
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posted January 28, 2009 03:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD

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BTW who is Pluto? Him?

We have a double whammy!!! widely conjunct but there all the same. oh and another thing, Gerry has persephone conjunct pluto exactly in his natal....oh la la!!

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darkdreamer
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posted January 28, 2009 03:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sizzling....

BTW what do you mean with "wide"?


Hmm, could you check your Davison? If there is an aspect between Pluto and Proserpine / Persephone, too?

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Diandra23
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posted January 28, 2009 04:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

DD

REally?i didnt noticed at all!!Hihi of course i dont mind! oN THE CONtrary:i Love to be a part of your researches.

AFterall you are a close friend and also a teacher...

I also thought we have some crazy conections btw - im still searching for more of the History between this Couple.

OMG!! im blushin now but i feel totally identified with their Story!!Cause it was only JOhn who made me a Woman,he is my 1st Man yup....

And he is A Cancer ASC as you know.so in a way..i hope to free him more of the Electra´s Complex hihihi

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darkdreamer
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posted January 28, 2009 04:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny - even t hough with a tear in my eye or a bit of melancholy, I just had a look on you-tube, and they recommended a video for me. Actually it was one (completely new to me), recorded this summer, when I had seen another singer (the third in my life ). lol, even though this time things were a tad different, as I had actually talked to him. lol

Now the funny melancholic thing - of course we have a DW on Pluto-Proserpine.

His Pluto exactly sextiles my Proserpine.
My Pluto trines his Proserpine with 1,5°.

In the Davison Pluto quinkunx Persephone.

In the composite pluto exactly squares the Proserpine / Venus-conjunction.


We also have other such nice things as (Sun-Moon-conjunction, Isis conjunct SN / DSC, Kaali conjunct ASC, Osiris square Isis, Siva quinkunx Parvati, Psyche conjunct Psyche).

Ah who cares? I really shouldn`t. Ah well, I guess it doesn`t ALWAYS hint towards soulmate-potential, as not only with him, but also with my first musical crush ever I share Pluto-Proserpine / Persephone aspects (opposition, trine).

Actually, funny thing, singer No 1 has his Proserpine exactly conjunct singer No2`s Proserpine (both trine my Pluto exactly).

And you will not believe that. Singer No 2 also has his Proserpine exactly conjunct the other two Proserpine`s (and trine my Pluto).
Singer No 2`s Pluto also squares my Proserpine exactly.


Sometimes it really feels like this is all a bad joke.

What`s up with those singers? Can`t they choose a different placement for their stupid asteroids?

EDIT:

With singer 2 there is actually an interesting pattern.

HIs Pluto exactly squares my Proserpina
My Pluto trines his Proserpina

his Pluto exactly sextiles my Eros
my Pluto squares his Eros

my Pluto squares his Venus

his Eros exactly conjuncts my Venus


It`s like (almost) all participants in that myth are gathered here.

Pluto and Proserpine of course.
Venus, who put this thing in motion, the mother of Eros.
Eros who then shot the arrow on Pluto.

(actually this singer`s Mars is also involved as it is exactly conjunct my Pluto).

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