posted March 07, 2010 05:53 PM         

My Mars-Pluto guy, with Mars on my Venus tried to burn me alive out of insecurity and fear that I'd be with someone else.

I mentioned my mum having this aspect with her ex husband.. In her case his Mars was afflicted by Saturn (which is more similar to yours, since Pluto is further down - not that I'd discount Pluto's influence over his Mars!). He concocted a weird story and tried to lay criminal charges on my mum. I'm positive he was doing it out of spite, because she had someone new in her life.

I would sue him (as crabby mentioned). But that is up to you. I would completely understand if you wanted to stay far away form him.

We all have free will and he is completely accountable for this mess. You can't be with this guy. You can't trust him. He has shown that he is OK with harming you. People don't do that if they care about you.

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I don't know WHY he did this !?! It's my mistake as well but he KNEW he could harm me.

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All of those planets are traditionally considered malefic.. Mars – Saturn and Pluto.. and your Venus is a benefic.
I know your Moon is Aries so I'm guessing they were also opposite your Moon..

This is not WHY he did it. He did it because he is an imbecile.. but that ^ shows a predisposition to cause you harm in some way.

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And I don't know whether to break up with him or suggest that we use condoms until I'm immune.

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I think you are having a shock reaction and you want to get things back to being normal and pretending this never happened.
I don't think your mind has completely accepted what this person has done, yet.

Please protect yourself! Talk to people close to you who can help.

I really hope with all my heart that you will be OK Swirl I remember seeing your pic - You're such a beautiful girl and you have an awesome personality and you deserve so much better than this complete and utter nut-job (because his actions were clearly intentional.. What a disgusting and low thing to do!).

posted March 07, 2010 07:41 PM         

I would NOT go back to this guy. I know it must be ahrd to tell someone something like this, but he could've at least insisted on a condom. I wonder if he's actually subconsciously hoping you get it so you feel you have to stay with him forever. That would fit with moon/pluto. Not that all moon/plutos would do such a thing.

posted March 07, 2010 11:49 PM         

You learned a big lesson here Sweetie,
maybe this happened now
so that it won't happen in the future.

posted March 07, 2010 11:56 PM         

Second of all - How would you know that taking legal action is not *part* of the action-reaction needed - and required by the cosmos - the universe - God - karma... and everything else?

For example, say a man kidnaps a little kid, buries the kid alive and leaves him to die (There was a story like this about a year or something ago).
And then say - the man is caught and given a life sentence in jail.

Who is to say the sentence was not part of his karma in this life? ^

In SwirlKit's case.. if she did sue him and there were repercussions involved for his behavior... then who is to say the repercussions were not part of this guy's karma?

If you are such a firm believer that everything happens for a reason.. then these people couldn't be "punished" unless it was already part of their own life-script... and their own negative-karma.. (They could be found innocent, for example..)

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Anyway – if you want bring Karma into the picture – There are many ways to look at this..

One possibility is that Karma does not mean anything at all, a concocted and empty concept. That is the sceptical version. It is a VALID perspective and should be acknowledged.

Another possibility is that Karma DOES exist and the karmic chain only ends when there is forgiveness.. So there is no such thing as levelling karma by *causing* further pain. If you inflict further pain you simply acquire more bad karma.

Another thing to look at is that completely regardless of karma (and completely regardless of whether you have forgiven or not).. You may have a certain practical duty - while you are here alive in this body, in this life.. to ensure that this person does not commit the same crime again in the future.

Because this needn’t even be punishment.. as much as prevention from him doing this again to someone else.. (which is very significant).

posted March 08, 2010 12:01 AM         

I got the impression that is what you meant.

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Second of all - How would you know that taking legal action is not *part* of the action-reaction needed - and required by the cosmos - the universe - God - karma... and everything else?

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Exactly! I was going to say the same thing!

posted March 08, 2010 12:05 AM         

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This situation almost mirrors something that I was recently involved in and I was very mad and wanted revenge. Then I took a step back and looked at it objectively. Maybe I was part to blame for an action that I wasn't even physically involved in.

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Well that's very noble of you but justice isn't vengeance. That is one of the reasons that the criminal justice system exists -- to avert vengeance.

posted March 08, 2010 12:13 AM         

it is said that Libras have a strong sense of Justice. After all, they are Libras.

But it is also written that Scorpios can have a sense of justice but tend to be vengeful

well...many people with Scorpio planets have those planets in Libra

the alpha and beta Libra stars,Zuben Algenubi and Zuben Elschamali are located in tropical Scorpio.
My Mercury and Venus are in tropical Scorpio and they are in Libra constellations. My Mercury conjuncts Zuben Elschamali

The Libra constellation used to be viewed as the Scorpion's Claws.
The Scales were about judging the soul after death.

the theme of the Libra Constellation was justice,judgment,death.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 08, 2010 12:16 AM         

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fine line between justice and vengeance when you get into stuff like the death penalty and "I want to be there and watch him get the lethal injection"

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The line may be fine but it is extremely clear to me.

And this is not a debate regarding capital punishment.. which is highly controversial.

posted March 08, 2010 12:18 AM         

Now I am going to relate to you a difficult personal story - this is something that I rarely will discuss EVER. This still bugs me to tears and I still have to heal on this...but here is my story for you!

I was in a similar boat back in the 90s. I knew this guy for 2 years before netering a relationship with him. 2 months after we consumated the relationship I broke out down below and was in a lot of pain. I went to the doctor who called me back and told me that it is Hepres Simplex Virus 2. I was extremely upset and deeply hurt. He told me that one night he noticed a sore on his penis and didn't say anything. He did not think it was important enough. I would have loved to have had the choice - if I KNEW he had it I would not have slept with him.

It has now been a long while since I have been diagonsed with it and it still burns me up within when I do get an outbreak. It has made starting a new relationship to be difficult because it is the first thing that I will say that I have before things get too far.

On an interestingly postive note my OB's are indicators telling me when I need to stop and rest more . I have learned to eat healthier and started taking good care of myself......

I'm sorry you had to go through hearing that this creep has Hep whatever he has. I think you deserve better and need somebody who is honest and upfront with you on things instead of keeping secrets...

posted March 08, 2010 12:20 AM         

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This upset me so much that I have ended my relationship with her. I don't know what to do. I want that guy to be punished but Im respecting her choice to stay out of it and so Im left with well maybe I just need to leave the situation all together. Maybe its karma. See, this is the other side and I know all of you thought this, "Maybe my exgf was asking for it".

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You have to respect her choice, since it's hers to make, although i am sure it's hard.

I didn't think she was "asking for it" I don't think that about any crime victim. No one deserves to be a victim of crime. Since you said that though, I am thinking it must be sexual assault, since they are usually the only victims people think are "asking for it."

posted March 08, 2010 12:20 AM         

I think the difference between justice and revenge are

Justice involves the intellect,detachment,objectivity

Revenge involves the emotions,attachment,and subjectivity

I am just talking about the concepts.

and reflected by the symbolism of how most of tropical Scorpio is in the Libra constellation and how the Libra Constellation was the Scorpion's Claws.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 08, 2010 12:40 AM         

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Justice involves the intellect,detachment,objectivity

Revenge involves the emotions,attachment,and subjectivity

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I completely agree!

posted March 08, 2010 12:46 AM         

S,

Why in the hell did you show your exgirlfriend's naked videos and pictures to a lot of other guys online????

That's intense invasion of her privacy.

WTF?????

Did she know about that?

If she knew, I'd think she'd break up with you long before you would have the chance to break up with her.

I don't think that what happened to her has anything to do with law of attraction whatsoever.

It wasn't about you

it's about what a guy did to her. It was the guy's fault and not hers at all.

It wasn't yours either.

however, your putting her naked videos and pictures online would have left her susceptible to be sexually victimized by sexual predators that see her naked videos and pictures.

I think that she could have pressed charges against you.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"