posted July 30, 2010 03:12 AM            

Hi Soulful,
I experience the other way round of Nessus everyday, my wife's Nessus squares my Venus exact

posted July 30, 2010 06:49 AM            

I was also researching Andrea Yates, a the killer mom who drowned her five kids. Higher Self is guiding me in researching this matter because the doctor whose instructions were disobeyed and hence allowed the depressed psycho to commit the crime shares the exact same name as mine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates

Andrea has exact Nessus square retrograde Saturn. Saturn in 4.48 Pisces and Nessus 4.42 Gemini. She also Sun conjunct NEMESIS exact, Jupiter square LILITH exact and retrograde Venus. The other aspects may have helped with the execution of crime but the basic susceptibility for all sociopaths or psychopaths I have ever studied is always a Nessus or Neptune affliction.

Is it not time to ensure that schools make natal charts of kids and start positive counselling before the kids grow up to become psychopaths? How much more proof is needed to warrant using Astrology?

Interestingly, during the day of the murder, Retro Mercury conjunct her retro Venus. Her crime commenced approximately when Ascendant conjunct Kaali on the morning of 20th June 2001. The crime took around 45 minutes and ended when Ascendant touched Lucifer. She acted like a demon possessed her....

We will learn a lot more from this case from the multi-composite chart of the 5 innocent victims.

Astrology CAN prevent such things from happening again.

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posted July 30, 2010 07:02 AM              

that research will be excellent.

i also dont understand the motives that lead a mother to kill her child.

to me that seems so evil.so demoniac,....

Do you think that somehow the souls of the children made that "soul contract" with the mother´+s soul between reincarnating?

posted July 30, 2010 07:43 AM            

Hi Diandra,
It is possible that she was possessed at that moment. My fellow researchers into the works of the illuminati say that many mind control sequences are capable of being passed on genetically. Andrea had European ancestry, and many wicked projects occured in Germany during Nazi rule. So a mind control alter can allow a lower astral entity to carry out the crime during dark astrological aspects, if the Natal Chart has the basic negative harmony aspects [Nessus exact sq Saturn, Mars, Venus or Dejanira for instance].

Anyway, it will be quite a while before such research is used beneficially because many in the ruling establishments need psychopaths in their armies, and they need them on the streets to keep the fear mindset in the gullible public. Public wont wake up till something bad happens to 10% of their known circle. And after that they will panic and they still wont solve the problem. The rulers know the masses very well and wont act for any good cause, as most of the top rulers are psychopaths in human clothing.

posted July 30, 2010 07:44 AM              

we are born in specific days,months,years and time,we have each our unique chart.

i have a twin that was born only 15 minutes before me,and we couldn't be more different.

posted July 30, 2010 07:49 AM            

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Is it not time to ensure that schools make natal charts of kids and start positive counselling before the kids grow up to become psychopaths? How much more proof is needed to warrant using Astrology?
Astrology CAN prevent such things from happening again.

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Andrea has exact Nessus square retrograde Saturn. Saturn in 4.48 Pisces and Nessus 4.42 Gemini. She also Sun conjunct NEMESIS exact, Jupiter square LILITH exact and retrograde Venus. The other aspects may have helped with the execution of crime but the basic susceptibility for all sociopaths or psychopaths I have ever studied is always a Nessus or Neptune affliction.

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posted July 30, 2010 08:00 AM            

We have different opinions you and me. For me it's terrible when people end up in misery. Maybe it's becuse I work with tragedy I see it on another way. I meet the tragedy in many peoples life all the time.

I see when I meeting people direct if they are healthy or not. For me the feelings are more important than a chart between people.

posted July 30, 2010 09:10 AM            

<<If astrology would ever be used as a screening tool for sociopaths, I'd probably be a candidate for the death penalty>>
It should be used as a screening tool for counseling potential sociopaths and psychopaths into taking more constructive roles. Nobody can predict the next action of anybody using astrology. Yet we can predict with 100% accuracy the nature of the energy that a person is feeling at any given moment.

posted July 30, 2010 10:10 AM              

i also have nessus afflictions,What do you think about it,please?

Nessus cj mars cj valentine in Leo between 10th and 11th house

trine Uranus ruler of my 5th, and Heracles in my 7th

semisquare my NN

Sqaure Osiris/8th, kaali/anubis/2nd,

i discovered something more...:

JOhny is cj Heracles in my 7th ( it only receives soft aspects of the chart)

JohnPaul is cj Dejanira close to MC.this sq mercury,and kikx Lucifer/Jupiter

posted July 30, 2010 04:48 PM              

source page:
The Astronomy and Astrology of the Centaurs .. Chiron, Pholus & Nessus
~ http://www.lunarplanner.com/asteroids-centaurs/index.html ~

posted July 30, 2010 05:10 PM            

My Trop. Nessus squares his Drac. Moon
His Trop. Nessus conjuncts my Drac. Moon
His Drac. Nessus squares my Trop. Venus
My Trop. Nessus conjuncts his Drac. Venus (wide, by 3°)

I'm guessing it's not as strong as you & your wife's since Tropical to Tropical is in the here and now?

posted July 30, 2010 07:19 PM            

I have Apophis square Venus. How would you interpret that?

posted July 31, 2010 04:35 AM            

Hi Diandra,
Your aspect means: Be careful of those who profess love to you suddenly just because of physical attraction, their intention is not good.

@AquarianScorpio,
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What does it mean to have a mans nessus on a womans S.Node?
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He sexually or emotionally abused her in a past lifeline, or was a witness to such abuse and did nothing to help.

posted July 31, 2010 05:43 AM            

they can do those things with their own free will

also people can have mental illnesses including schizophrenia,bipolar without being subjected to some alien programming as well as other conspiracy stuff

all over the world, people do mean things to others because of their different sex, sexual orientation, race/ethnic group, nationality,political,ideology, etc. I don't think that these things have to do with alien programming and conspiracy stuff.

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President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted July 31, 2010 06:31 AM            

Cold blooded and meticulously planned, remorseless acts of continual evil are NOT of human origin, even though the actions are ultimately from a human vessel. The entities act from the 4th dimension. They utilize the dark components of reptilian DNA in the vessel.

Anyway, that is beside the point. Such things wont be believed unless and until scientists working for US and UK governments tell the masses that this is true, and it comes on CNN and BBC.

posted July 31, 2010 07:25 AM              

fortunately till today i never let anyone get into my heart(besides of JOhhny).i ve never believed when other men started saying they loved me,just in a few time after meeting them.

maybe it was my intuition that told me to run away,cause deep inside,i always had the feeling they only wanted to conquer me for sex.

times before i met Johhn,i met a guy online a Scorpio.i was not aware of astrology yet,but i felt how intense they can be.we even met one night,but i didnt liked the way he looked at me,i even thought i liked the guy,and started fantasizing,how he could be really interesting ( he was into the Occult,and several times told me how he and his friends did things,,,not bad ones,but things like levitating etc...).

posted July 31, 2010 08:25 AM            

If exact NESSUS squares, especially to Pluto, Saturn, Deijanira, Venus, Sun, ASC, Moon, Nemesis or Lucifer indicate a possible threat to ones physical or emotional health, I feel it is right to point this out.

I don`t think the desastrous outcome will occur in ANY case. I still think it is up to us how we deal with the energies.
I think astrology gives a clear picture of the energies at work in us or influencing us, but it doesn`t tell us (or we cannot read it properly so far) HOW we deal with these energies.

In my case, Tr Nessus has been conjunct my Moon and quinkunx natal Saturn and trine Karma for quite some time now.

I didn`t experience any kind of abuse (but I msut confess, so I always said I wouldn`t do something like that, that I had been paying extra attention to my gut feelings when meeting new or even familiar people).
I did get confronted with abuse-themes though in the last months, mostly on "memory-lane".

But I think to even have the option of making a decision of how to deal with certain energies in us, we have to know about them first.

Maybe Nessus can also give great insights in the mechanisms of victimizations and can use it for the purposing of assisting others in understanding, who are going to this process.

In my case the abuse I suffered, especially from larger groups of people, made me very sensitive towards crowds, yes, also fearful, which is of course not a good thing.
But what is good about it, is that I somehow must radiate this sensitivity and understanding, and this makes many of my pupils trust me with their experiences and their fears, and so I can help them with it, and can create an environment for an open communication with the "feared leaders of these groups", and often things can be prevented BEFORE it escalates.
But most important I think is the feeling I obviously give them, that I do NOT look away, I do NOT ignore, I do NOT underestimate the impact, even just feared (and never really manifested) attempts of abuse can have, I never tell anyone: Do not overdramatize! Nothing happened. You didn`t even have to be treated in hospital.
And I think that gives many of my pupils a feeling of trust and security.

But I can only do that (or I am only that senstivie) because I experienced similiar things on some level.

Many may have been "victimized" in some way, in some area of their lives, in different degrees of course, but then it is their choice how to deal with it. They could become perprators themselves, or they could use their knowledge and experience to assist others in similiar situations. Or they could pretend nothing happened (which probably will lead them to blow up later on).

But no matter what they decide to do, their natal Nessus aspects will stay the same, the energy is still being experienced in their lives, just maybe in a total different way.