posted August 02, 2010 06:35 PM            

he himself was abused as a child (which he has told no one. i just say because it's an anonymous forum here). his retrograde Nessus is square his Uranus (3 deg.) and Moon (4 deg.), which are both in his heavy stellium 8th house. it's also inconjunct Mars in Scorpio. it's also trine his Mercury/Karma (4 deg.) and i get the feeling that's what's saving him from becoming a victim.

besides a very few nice aspects and pretty strong asteroid connections, all i see in our Synastry is pretty much just squares! our "relationship" has been filled with turmoils and trials. we have not settled for one week to have a normal "couple time" together. but through difficulties, i am starting to understand this strange feeling that we are beyond a "couple", i cannot articulate it. we've never considered nor told anyone that we are "attached" either. i don't know how fated is "fated" supposed to be, but there's something that transcends the restrictions of this life time in the quality of our perceptions of each other. we are not "madly in love" with each other. yet it's making me feel quite strange, the other day the idea came to me that this is a person i am going to live and die with. we sacrifice so much for each other and we abuse so much of each other. we make the other suffer incredibly, like we are poison to each other, but at the same time it's neutralising it (because of DW). and actually we grow stronger each time. so many times i seriously tried to leave him, but i don't, not because i feel trapped or weak, but because i realize that leaving him is actually an unwise decision. because my existence would be only half without him.

posted August 02, 2010 07:33 PM            

quote:

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BTW, I am not considering any astrological view as an attack, we have to consider every type of case to get better in astrology. Would like to analyze your brother's chartr as well.

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posted August 02, 2010 07:43 PM            

Nessus at 24 LEO
Moon at 24 TAURUS
Saturn at 25 SCORPIO

????

posted August 02, 2010 07:59 PM            

I was assaulted by a man, as a child, and mentally/emotionally abused by my grandmother, and others outside of my family later on.

At times, it can be easy for me to fall into a victim mentality, but I can't stand for anyone to see me that way - I never could. I usually keep things surrounding that, to myself, because I know that whilst the feelings are a big deal for me, they aren't to almost everyone else - it's for me to deal with, to sort the reality about myself or others, from the type of internal emotional responses that can come from things of that nature. I worry that when I talk about how something affected me, and for how long (my self-esteem being just fine , in some ways, and just awful in others), that they will only see that about me - either as a victim, or victimizing myself. I find it really difficult to ask for help, so it bugs the hell out of me when I see people referring to others (or myself) who do open up in that way, or finally start to talk about things, as drama queens. (I'm not talking about here, although that has happened.) *edit. I do like DD's talking about not over-dramatizing particular incidents - had I continued to keep things in perspective when I was younger, I would have been fine.

I find it interesting that my Nessus squares the Venus of a certain someone.. I've never wanted to hurt someone else as much as they've hurt me, in the past, but with this one person, I really laid into them verbally. I made no bones about how I felt, how disgusted I was - they hadn't taken any responsibility for the way they'd made me feel, but they wanted me to take responsibility for the way I was making them feel with my words.

*edit. I have Nessus squaring one of my Lilith's, as well... Lilith being in my 5th house.

posted August 02, 2010 08:58 PM            

raspberri,

I was born on the 29th too
of October. My maternal grandmother was born on the 29th of March, and so it seemed like I inherited some of my traits from her. My mother's lifepath is 29/11. It seems that I also inherited some of my traits from her too. You could say that I share similar karma with those matrilineal ancestors of mine.

This is what Decoz wrote about people born on the 29th:

You are highly intuitive and creative.

Your mind thinks in pictures. You seem to draw information and ideas from out of the sky.
Your intuition is your gift, along with a powerful drive to know the Oneness of all things. You are so driven by spiritual pursuits that no matter what you do in life, the world of spirit and philosophy will be central to your daily behavior. You feel linked with the larger universal forces, and nothing will change that.
You have a fine mind and keen insights, but these do not come as a result of logic or rational thought. You are more likely to direct your life by inspiration, rather than by calculated reflections.
On some level, you know that you are in the hands of destiny, and that you must surrender to the higher powers that shape your life. You are usually a late bloomer. Your early and middle 30s tend to be years spent in apprenticeship and slow development. During this period, you can become frustrated with your progress, or the apparent lack of it.
You need to develop faith. You are a highly charged person with much to do, but you must develop character and sound judgment before you begin to tap your true potential. Just as a tree needs roots to grow tall, so, too, do you need to develop depth of character in order to begin to expand in the ways you desire and ultimately envision.
Your highly developed intuition makes you a wonderful counselor, healer, or health practitioner. You have a gift for inspiring people. Many people admire you without your knowing it. You are a visionary, and others sense your wisdom.
You are acutely sensitive and easily influenced by your surroundings. You love beauty and harmony. You crave social interaction and much attention. You can be very emotional, often experiencing extremes of happiness and sadness. You are usually too easily hurt.
You get depressed easily and feel the lack of confidence during times you are in a dark mood.
Despite your sensitivity, you possess leadership abilities. You are modest, diplomatic and polite. You have the ability to persuade, and can be quite forceful.
Your high sensitivity to others makes you compassionate, kind, and gentle. You have an opportunity for fame and success as long as you do not pursue either as your gods. Look for ways to help others and convey a larger message, with which you were blessed. This will bring you the material and social fruits you desire. http://www.decoz.com/BdCard29.htm

This is from Michael McClain:

29
Your birthday on the 29th adds a tone of idealism to your nature. You are imaginative and creative, but rather uncomfortable in the business world. You are very aware and sensitive, with outstanding intuitive skills and analytical abilities. The 29 reduces to 11, one of the master numbers which often produces much nervous tension. This is the birthday of the dreamer rather than the doer. You do, however, work very well with people. http://astrology-numerology.com/num-birthdays.html

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posted August 02, 2010 09:29 PM            

The intepretation of the chart is more of an art and language. There are many ways to interpret a chart. There are many ways to interpret an aspect. Heavenly bodies are assigned certain traits,characteristics,and rulerships which provide numerous variations of interpreting aspects. If you look in a Rex E. Bill's rulership book, rulerships of a planet covers over 5 pages. It's the interpretation of the chart that critics of astrology might even argue could be so general that it can apply to anybody. The Barnum/Forer Effect.

I believe that Astrology can be form of psychology as it helps study personality and human behavior. In that way, I believe that Astrology can be a social science. I wouldn't use it as form of psychiatry to help diagnosed people as having psychiatric disorders. I don't see it as form of neurology to understand how the brain works. Of course, psychiatric disorders and neurodivergence greatly overlap in symptoms/traits, and so it's very difficult to distinguish those things from looking at a chart. Even the "afflicted" Neptune aspects don't necessarily mean a psychiatric disorder. Those aspects are common in people that are misdiagnosed including having misdiagnoses of psychiatric disorders. Besides, psychiatry doesn't even recognize the metaphysical. Even people that are actual mystics,psychics can be viewed as psychotics,schizophrenics and get diagnosed as such.

I believe that Astrology can be a form of religion. A lot of astrologers cling onto to ideas that are contrary to what scientists say. There is so much disagreement about what even works in Astrology. Some types of Astrology is based on religion. Evolutionary Astrology is based on the beliefs of reincarnation,pastlives,and karma. The stuff that I have read from Jeffrey Wolf Green and Maurice Fernandez seems even a bit dogmatic. Vedic Astrology is based on religions the scriptures called the Vedas. There are astrological systems that even use hypothetical planets that astronomers haven't even discovered yet and aren't likely to exist, but they believe that it works. Some people have written books about Transpluto which is planet based on the mistakes of astronomers and has now been proven not to exist. Of course, many people that belief in Astrology is a delusion because they believe that Astrology is a pseudoscience that is based on outdated "knowledge" about our solar system. Old systems based on old knowledge tends to be replaced by new systems based on new knowledge. Even now, majority of Astrologers are using a system that is now updated based on the new discoveries of astronomers. Since 1992, astronomers have been discovering other transneptunian objects, but a vast majority of astrologers showed little interest in them. Even after the turn of the 21st century, more transneptunian objects were discovered including big ones, astronomers still weren't interested in. Even after 2006, there are professional astrologers that didn't even know about Eris
which made great news as an object larger than Pluto and got Pluto demoted as dwarf planet. Astrologers can be hypocritical, saying that Astronomers' findings don't change their system. Well...Ceres,Pallas,Juno,and Vesta were classed as planets for 40 years. Well.....most astrologers don't include those objects as planets in their solar system. Astronomers discovered Uranus,Neptune,and Pluto, and vast majority of Western astrologers use those objects in their systems. Therefore, astrologers have adapted to the discoveries of astronomers. It's just that they have been selective. It's like them choosing what's convenient for them to use and doesn't complicate their system. Western Astrologers are not much different from Vedic Astrologers in that way.

I believe it's a combination of physical science, social science,philosophy,religion, art,and language.

I don't believe that it's just a science.

There are forms of Astrology that I haven't seem much in this forum. Those are Political Astrology and Sociological Astrology.

The latter tends to be very controversial, especially if you discuss about race relations matters. As a person who is part African American, I wonder if Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s t-square of Moon in Pisces in 12th square the opposition of Mars in Gemini in 3rd and Saturn in Sagittarius in 9th was about his emotional idealism in the face of fighting against the racist segregation laws as well as as the anger that he probably felt from being restricted in society because of his race. I wonder if the American Slavery's Eris in 11'14 Gemini (the same as my Midheaven) with the Sabian Symbol: The Negro Girl Fights for Independence in the City in strong aspect to a person's chart has to do with not only the pastlife karma of African American slavery but also be connected to the present African American community. Is it any coincidence that I have an Africano-Africa-Chiron-Eris conjunction that sextiles my Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini? What if my t-square of Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd is not only about my being a neurodivergent (very rightbrained) that has problems neurotypical society, but also a multiracial person and part black that has experiences with racism and yet is very emotionally idealistic but is pessimistic about race relations. What if the Moon square Saturn-Neptune opposition is more about my emotional conflict of identifying myself as Black (Saturn according to Rex E Bill's rulership book) or identifying myself as Mulatto (Neptune according to Rex E Bill's rulership book). It's no coincidence that I have Moon conjunct the asteroid, White within half a degree orb,and it's involved in my t-square, reflecting the emotional conflicts of being part white from having a white mother and the challenges of embracing both my white heritage as people try to fit me into a racial box in the name of the "one drop rule".

Wouldn't a Sun trine Jupiter-Uranus manifest differently for a white person and a black person if born in 1840 during the slavery days. The white person born with that aspect might becomes an entrepreneur, rich,famous,and travel to another country. What about the black person? He has no freedom to go any where. Maybe he travels far to a different state because he is being sold and then later on it's gets a job, driving a wagon which leads him to travel. Maybe he is lucky in that he becomes a supervisor of his fellow slaves and gets to eat his Master's food. Maybe later, he runs away to actual freedom.

In the early 1960's, wouldn't a black person with Sun in Aquarius be rebellious any way without the Sun in Aquarius, fed up with the laws of Jim Crow segregation laws.
Rosa Parks who got arrested for refusing to give her seat to a white man had Sun in Aquarius. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had Mercury in Aquarius, and he did spoke out against segregation. I have Mars in Aquarius would my activism be mistaken for "angry black man" syndrome.

Some astrologers focus on retrograde Saturn as having to do with father not being absent. This is true for me. I never knew my African American father. I am no different many others that are part African American that had African American fathers that are out of the picture. It's a common problem in American society.

Would it be racist for me to say that my being part African American has factored into my struggling to accept a lot of New Age views. I don't think so. When I go to New Age functions, I hardly see any black people.

The 1960's was time of the Hippy Movement , but it was also a time when blacks were fighting for civil rights.

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posted August 02, 2010 11:05 PM            

in the book, it says

The square aspects represent the conditions which are seemingly thrust in our path as we live life. These conditions can be mapped and their severity calculated, but they are by no means instruments of fate or bad luck. In Cosmobiology, the degree of difficulty presented by hard aspects is determined by the definitions of the planets involved. But the means by which the influences are manifested depends upon several factors, including the environment, genetic makeup, sociologicoal-political conditions and the reaction of the individual in a positive or negative manner.

So it can be seen that a square aspect is not intrinsically bad; it is only the reaction of the individual to the influences that cause so much turmoil in the interpretation. The continuing improvement of a traditional methods also has led to this line of thinking, so it should not be difficult for the student to see how all angular relationships between the planets are interpreted. For those of you who severely question this proposition, recall an obstacle in your life or a difficult situation or time and ask yourself whether it was the aspect alone that made it so.

While many available textbooks emphasize the type of aspect, cosmobiology does not. For instance, in traditional astrology Mars square Uranus is unfortunate, while Mars trine Uranus is fortunate. This type of classifcation can be misleading because it disregards four important properties of aspects which are taken into consideration in cosmobiology:

The combination of the unique characteristic of each planet involved.

The role a particular aspect plays in relation to the entire chart as a unit.

How the individual choses to react in given circumstances (positively or negatively).

Environmental conditions.

in short:
Cosmobiologists don't view squares as being bad. They definitely don't refer to them as being "afflictions". They view them as conditions that are thrown in our path which we have no choice to confront and face.

Just because they and other astrologers view aspects that way doesn't mean that they have "perverse ignorance"

They just use a different astrological system that includes a different ideology.

as for the
environment, genetic makeup, sociologicoal-political conditions and the reaction of the individual in a positive or negative manner,

Racial relations easily fit the bill. Race involves not only genetic makeup. It involves society. Many say that race is a social construct. Racism is a society issue. It also involves politics. For example: African American population have the greatest amount of Democrats when it comes to proportion. 90 percent of them voted for Barack Obama. There are people that unfairly view Blacks as primarily welfare recipients. Some are afraid of socialism because they believe that it means hand-outs to blacks and other racial minorities. There are differences in how a black and white responds and how they are treated. This not based on genetics, but based on societal conditions. They are sentenced differently. For instance, a black man got sentenced 75 years in prison for a rape in Texas. It turned out that he was innocent. White men don't get harsh sentences like that

as a person who is part Black, I would like to see Black astrologers writing astrology books, addressing issues pertaining to Blacks.

There is a black astrologer named Thelma Balfour that wrote

Black Sun Signs: An African-American Guide to the Zodiac by Thelma Balfour
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Sun-Signs-African-Amer ican-Zodiac/dp/B001PO64T6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1280805238&sr=8-1

Mu'Min Bey is a black astrologer that has written about sociological,race relations matters pertaining to blacks too. He is the one that I found out about the African Slavery chart.
http://muminbey.tripod.com/
http://muminspeaks.blogspot.com/

July 2, 1964 was the date of the Civil Rights Act

on the day of that event:

Nessus in 4'42 Gemini
square Saturn in 4'47 Pisces R

The Civil Right's Act's Nessus conjuncts my retrograde Saturn in 5'08 Gemini in 9th. Its Saturn squares my Saturn.

As a person that is part black, I benefited from the Civil Right's Act of course. I don't have to deal with Jim Crow segregation laws which my Black father had to deal with when he lived in his native Louisiana.

posted August 02, 2010 11:58 PM            

using noon
Washington DC

Nessus in 3'59 Gemini
square Sun in 4'14 Virgo
square Venus in 4'37 Virgo
square Uranus in 5'35 Virgo

Thank God for Dr. Martin Luther King Jr's I HAVE A DREAM speech that was held on that day. That was a highly inspirational event that helped changed USA and very pivotal in the Civil Rights movement. Of course, it was a very bad day for white supremacists.

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posted August 03, 2010 12:20 AM            

Susan B. Anthony born on Feb 15, 1820 had dwarf planet Ceres square Nessus.

Mother Teresa born on August 26, 1910 had a t-square of Pluto square Mercury-Nessus opposition.

United States Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776
Uranus square Ceres-Nessus conjunction

NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) was founded on Feb 12, 1909.
The NAACP chart has a t-square of Nessus square Mars-Pluto opposition. Nessus also squares the Lunar Nodes.

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posted August 03, 2010 05:02 AM            

Glaucus on August 2nd 2010
<<I believe Astrology is a science...>>

This is a classical effect of very strong Neptune in charts. You will have the talent to justify any philosophy but will not be able to take a firm decision. This will help in collecting and assimilating information but will be an obstacle in the decisive utilization of that very information. You will be able to identify problems with aplomb but fail in giving practical solutions.

To overcome the weakness of these aspects, one has to look into the Cardinal Signs, and identify with the positive traits of those planets.

If you send me 20 charts of non psychopathic, non sociopathic, Neurodivergents diagnosed as such by non psychiatrists [because you distrust psychiatry], then in a month's time I can give you a near perfect astrological formula to identify pure Neurodivergents. You need not struggle for years with your organization, you can make it a winning organization in 2-3 months and quickly raise awareness in official corridors.

edit: Nothing like a bit of controversy to get into the limelight. Imagine this headline: "Californian Astrologer pins down the causes of Autism"... then you say that it is not autism but it is Neurodivergence etc etc. Then you get to be on TV

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posted August 03, 2010 06:21 AM            

In the dark world of programming/mind control, the Barbara Bushes and Hillary Clintons fall in the category known as "Mother of Darkness" Programming.

Aleister Crowley DOES NOT HAVE Nessus afflictions , he just has Sun conj Asteroid LILITH. Of course his sexual appetite is explicable by IXION and EROS-Mars opposition Grand Crossing the Venus and Chiron opposition exactly. What a chart! Chiron conj BABYLON and he started the "Babalon Working" of chaos magick.

Our chaotic financial system designed to impoverish the masses using fraudulent interest rates, was agreed to in Bretton Woods on 20th July 1944.
NESSUS, Pluto and TRANSYLVANIA were in exact T-Square. Sapping of financial energy by vampire bankers is the theme.

The stalwart of theosophy, Charles Leadbeater has been accused of abusing boys.
He has Sun conj LUST in Aquarius trine NESSUS exact, plus exact Mars opposition Neptune. Venus retrograde in Pisces exact square IXION.

Illuminati Grand Dame Doris Duke has Sun exact quincunx PLuro, Sun exact trine Nessus and Nessus exact square Pluto. All 3 objects in Anaretic Water Signs.

Rasputin: Nessus sq IXION exact, Neptune opp Nessus, 2 degree orb. He also has Saturn conj LUST conj SIVA exact and LILITH conj South Node exact, LUCIFER quincunx Neptune exact. Fitting.

Jack Parsons, the man who performed the greatest black magic ritual of the 20th century on the Mojave Desert, has Pluto conj Saturn exact, and exacty squaring NESSUS. 0.15 degree orb. He also has Mars quincunx Nessus 0.30 degree orb and Sun conj Asteroid LILITH. Just like his mentor Aleister Crowley. Law of Attraction/Vibrational Matching that brought these two Sun conj LILITHS born decades apart together. They never even knew that Asteroid LILITH existed. The odds are millions to one.

posted August 03, 2010 10:34 AM            

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posted August 03, 2010 12:06 PM            

Black Entertainment Television is an American cable network based in Washington D.C., and targets young African-American audiences. The network launched on January 25, 1980 by its founder Robert L. Johnson. Most programming of the network comprises mainstream rap and R&B music videos and urban-oriented movies and series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Entertainment_Television

using a noon chart
Washington, DC

Nessus in 16'27 Cancer
square Ceres in 15'13 Aries
square Eris in 13'54 Aries

In Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude) which is the coordinate that astronomers use to locate objects in the sky:

Nessus in 20'18 Cancer
square Eris in 20'17 Aries

BET is very controversial. Some people say that BET is racist because it's a television network mainly for black people.

But BET was created during a time when very blacks had opportunities in entertainment

just like Miss Black America was created during a time when only white women were allowed to compete in the pageant.

I don't think the Nessus is necessarily bad. It was bad for people who thought black entertainment network was a bad thing. It was good for people who thought "thank god....a lot more choices for black people"

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posted August 03, 2010 12:16 PM            

J. Morris Anderson created and produced the Miss Black America Pageant on August 17, 1968. It was originally a local Philadelphia area pageant to protest the lack of black women in the Miss America pageant. With support from Phillip H. Savage, Tri-State Director of the NAACP, the pageant received nationwide press coverage as a protest against the Miss America Pageant, an event that Mr. Savage and other NAACP leaders had long condemned for exclusion of black women contestants.

Aug 17, 1968
using noon
Philadelphia,PA

Nessus in 13'48 Gemini
square Venus in 10'46 Virgo
square Jupiter in 11'38 Virgo

In Right Ascension:
Nessus in 10'49 Gemini
square Venus in 12'48 Virgo
square Jupiter in 13'23 Virgo

This could be about judging the beauty of minorities

The Nessus squares doesn't necessarily mean that this was a bad day. This was a very good day for black women who had a chance to showcase their beauty in a pageant made for them.

Of course, this pageant was looked down upon by many white people as something racist.

even today, there are white people who will bring up Black America pageant as evidence that Blacks are racist. Yes...I have seen these arguments a lot. BET is also used as as evidence that Blacks are racist.

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posted August 03, 2010 12:41 PM            

Nessus in 7'41 Gemini R
conjunct/oppose Lunar Nodes in 6'55 Gemini/Sagittarius

it wasn't necessarily bad day. It was a great day for blacks. It was a bad day for people that didn't want blacks to have equal treatnment

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posted August 03, 2010 12:53 PM            

using noon
Raleigh,Virginia

Nessus in 1'52 Libra
square Venus in 2'19 Capricorn
square Uranus in 2'44 Capricorn

in Right Ascension:
Nessus in 4'56 Libra
Venus in 2'35 Capricorn
Uranus in 2'59 Capricorn

In the Right Ascension, the Venus square Nessus is an applying and Nessus square Uranus is separating

in the regular chart, Venus square Nessus separating and Nessus square Uranus applying

the Nessus squares don't necessarily mean that it was a bad. It was actually a good day for many blacks with the first black governor being elected. It was a bad day for people who don't believe nor wants blacks to go far in politics

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posted August 03, 2010 01:02 PM            

The three examples mentioned are

1. Group Situations. The challenges of Nessus are more dangerous in individual charts.

2. These 3 do not have exact Nessus harsh aspects towards Dejanira, Saturn, Neptune or Mars. Only Venus, and in this context, Nessus sq Venus for a beauty pageant is very much a context of allowing group exploitation. There could have been other positives in the chart too, related to pageants such as Asteroid Aphrodite.
And Jupiter squares have rarely proven to be harsh. In sport, Many champions and underdogs have clicked on Jupiter square Sun days.

3. Based on your logic, a Nessus square Dejanira for a Psychopath is not necessarily bad for him, he does get to satisfy his macabre desire by assaulting/killing a victim.
In your view, is that also right thing?
Must you continue to defend Nessus square aspects?

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posted August 03, 2010 01:13 PM            

ASALH's official mission is "to promote, research, preserve, interpret, and disseminate information about Black life, history, and culture to the global community." American Historical Association

ASALH's official vision is " to be the premier Black Heritage and learned society with a diverse and inclusive membership supported by a strong network of national and international branches to continue the Woodson legacy." American Historical Association

ASALH created Negro History Week in 1926. Woodson selected the week to coincide with the birthdays of Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln. Each year, Woodson established a national theme for the celebration. Since 1976, ASALH extended the celebration for the entire month of February.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_for_the_Study_of_African_American_Life_and_History

founding date
Sept 9, 1915
Chicago IL
noon

Nessus in 4'29 Aries
oppose Mercury in 6'39 Libra
square Pluto in 3'12 Cancer

Right Ascension:
Nessus in 6'59 Aries
oppose Mercury in 5'55 Libra

in Right Ascension, The Mercury oppose Nessus is applying. In the regular chart, Mercury oppose Nessus is separating

incorporation date
October 2, 1915
Washington DC
noon

Nessus in 3'55 Aries R
square Pluto in 3'19 Cancer
quincunx Mercury in 3'43 Scorpio

These days weren't necessarily bad days. They were great days for blacks. They were bad days for people that didn't believe in equality for blacks.

This organization is responsible for Black History month which is very controversial because some people see it as evidence of racism and the lack of color blind society.

But most History in USA focus only on white people's accomplishments. It usually overlook the accomplishments of Blacks in American history.

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posted August 03, 2010 01:47 PM            

She is a person who has a history of abuse (abused in fosterhomes, was in abusive relationships), and she never knew her biological mother that left her. She was shot by a schizophrenic black man when she was 19,and I was with her at the time. The shooting led to loss of blood that led to a blood transfusion that gave her Hepatitis C. She also tends to be emotionally unstable. She mentally and physically abused me.

She is also a neurodivergent too. She told me that she has a lot of the symptoms/traits of neurodivergence. She is ultrasensitive,extremely emotionally reactive to situations/surroundings, susceptible to being stressed out/emotional meltdowns,and she is very rightbrained,thinks mainly in pictures. She also believes in metaphysical things. She can relate to the Indigo stuff.

so Nessus being "bad blood" worked both literally and figuratively" in my mom's life.

In regards to minorities, she is mainly attracted to blacks. She had a child (me) with a black man. Most of her friends have been blacks. Many of her friends have been nonconformists. She has been known to lend a helping hand which can be one of the positives of Nessus.

Her Nessus in 18'54 Taurus in 11th
oppose her chart ruler Moon in 18'51 Scorpio in 5th
oppose/conjunct Vertex/Antivertex in 19'02 Scorpio/Taurus in 5th/11th
semisquare Jupiter in 4'29 Cancer R in 1st - '35
sesquiquadrate Ceres in 2'58 Libra in 4th
oppose Moon in 18'51 Scorpio in 5th

Her Nessus
oppose my chart ruler Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio

there definitely has been "bad blood" between us without a doubt, but I also think that our very similar natures also factor into us not getting along with each other as we are both neurodivergents that are hypersensitive and getting upset easily, and so it's no wonder that she and I can get on each other's nerves easily.

Her Nessus in connection to 5th house could also be me as her child as a minority and nonconformist. I have my own Sun sesquiquadrate Nessus under 1 degree orb which reflects experiencing my father as minority,nonconformist. My father was a neurodivergent and had similar traits as both my mother and me. It was their similarities that drew them together and led to creating me who is both my mother and father. My Sun trine Moon represents the similar personalities of both my mother and father. They even both had watersign moons - My mom has Moon in Scorpio, and my father had Moon in Pisces just like myself and my maternal grandfather.

also
She has the following in Right Ascension:

Nessus in 15'05 Taurus
sextile Mercury in 16'49 Cancer
trine/sextile Lunar Nodes in 16'10 Capricorn/Cancer
semisquare/sesquiquadrate Ascendant/Descendant - '07
quintile Venus - '18

but yeah

my mother is very strong in Nessus energy
especially with Moon oppose Nessus with only 2 minutes of arc.

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted August 03, 2010 02:07 PM            

Miss Black America pageant and BET aren't racist.

They were created as alternatives for black people because there were very few opportunities for black people during the days that Miss Black America pageant and BET were created.

I know that this thread is about Nessus and not about race

I am not stupid.

That's why my posts in regards to racial matters included listing of Nessus aspects.

My point was that Nessus can be an object associated with minorities. It is even well-founded.

Nessus is a centaur which is nonconformist object. It's orbit is highly elliptical, making it a nonconformist object.

There are over 60 centaurs, but that doesn't come close to the thousands of main belt asteroids that have been discovered in our solar system.

These centaurs originated from the kuiper belt. They are visitors from the outer regions of the solar system.

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement