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Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I dance to this in my kitchen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHj5_zMz-bo&feature=related

So many roads.All I want is one to lead me home.


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posted August 10, 2010 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
Yes ami that lyric

and for me

" i must be strong, and carry on"

"Ill find my way, through night and day"

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posted August 10, 2010 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
Ami, my Jupiter conjuncts your Mercury same degree. This was my first Album purchase back in the day and I think it's kind of Gemini like, kind of mercurial, and describes well you know whatever heartache ... I'm curious your take. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9C2kpeN6Us&feature=related

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Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I can hear why it hits you, I think, Mermaid. It is wanting to be YOU as you expressed on the other thread--not a person you were supposed to be for anyone :your family/society.
Where is your NN---sign and house?

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Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You know what might help, Mblake. Put a synastry of you and your mother.
I found the root of my Mars/Pluto problems from doing that.
I SAW my childhood in black and white from s few placement : if it feels comfortable ,only, of course.

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posted August 10, 2010 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
keep that in mind but not at this time please

i think its a good suggestion, its just a messy place to go into.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You know, I need to trust myself, Mblake. I knew I should not have asked as I did but then I didn't listen.
Of course, I respect that, totally !


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posted August 10, 2010 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
thanks ami

Mars in the Twelfth House 12th hs
Mars in Virgo
Mars Conjunct Ascendant
Mars Square Midheaven
Mars Square Neptune
Venus Trine Mars
Mercury Sextile Mars

Mars Square Midheaven
You will tend to work against yourself until you really understand who you are and what you are doing.

Midheaven supposed to be your path in life?

Neptune Opposition Midheaven
Mars Square Midheaven
Jupiter Trine Midheaven
Saturn Trine Midheaven
Pluto Trine Midheaven

trines mean harmony, natural artistic talent correct?

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Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
If there is a prize for a long thread ,Mblake, We--the two Mercury ruled signs----Gemini and Virgo--would get it

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posted August 10, 2010 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You have Venus trine ASC. You may have those hard energies but at least you are cute

Ami
PS Trines are when the energy harmonizes. In Neptune trines ,you can take that energy and go in to the creative dimension. Hence, you can be a good artist/musician

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posted August 10, 2010 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
Ami, my NN is Taur 28/29? in the 9th


Mblake - I can put up Lewi's Sun/Moon descrip sometime if you like. It does say Scorp Sun with Virgo Moon does suit a career with creative/artistic expression.

This is the book I have, yet haven't read yet: http://www.amazon.com/Twelfth-House-Hidden-Power-Horoscope/dp/0877287279

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posted August 10, 2010 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
So you, Mermaid,aspire to Taurus energy i.e. grounded in the world.
The 9th house is philosophy/religion.
You need to find the 9th house things.

A merging of these would be where you need to go.
Does that fit?

Ami

PS It would mean you were comfortable with SN--Scorpio energy and the 3rd house which is communication.
Does that fit?


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posted August 10, 2010 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah Ami, that's the challenge, the merging. You have prompted me to get a better understanding now of the 3rd house placement. I feel I'm getting closer to discovering that answer.

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posted August 10, 2010 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
I should add that self knowledge rules in this area, You may only need a merging if there is a need for it.

Some energies may not need it and can be ok already.

You are the one that will know.

Dis-harmonic energies are why i needed it, Ideas, feelings etc are things i rooted and am still rooting out and understanding there place.

Again i have to place the idea, You will know through self discovery.

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posted August 10, 2010 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Life would be just too hard with no Neptune in it.
I just can't go there no matter HOW much Pluto I accept lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n_5xo9YpmQ&feature=related

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posted August 10, 2010 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
Thats your individuality ami, Speak it wisely

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Ami Ann
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posted August 11, 2010 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You know, when you say individuality,Mblake, it makes me think THAT is the answer.

I have all those parts, the sweet Neptune, the drill sargeant Pluto, the beauty/grace loving Venus, the Ego Sun.

Health and living life at it's BEST is having access to all of them .


I think you and I are trying to do that here, with Mermaid and anyone else who wants to join

x o x Ami

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posted August 11, 2010 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I am doing Yoga to Wonderwall. It is a great Yoga song for some reason lol.

Anyway, I was thinking what may be SO hard about your chart and why you are struggling.
Scorpio is water. Virgo is earth. Water does not go well with earth.
They are not compatible elements, I am quite sure.
Therefore, you have to try to put together two things which are not natural allies,friends, so to speak.
I have Water(Scorpio) and Air(Gemini). They go together more easily.
Then, I have a little fire, no earth.
It is easier to reconcile,I think.

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posted August 11, 2010 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBHzFb0toqc

This reminds me of a Healthy Sun.


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posted August 11, 2010 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
Ami, well stated. It's all about pulling out the splinters, putting back the scattered pieces, and being made new again. Much like the journey to Emerald City/Oz, to meet the wizard face to face, the ONE who reveals that which we ALLready and will ALLways contain.
Dorothy did not journey alone. She had some misfit traveling buddies.
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Traveller, there is no path.
The path is made by walking – Antonio Machado

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posted August 11, 2010 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
This is in honor of you ,Mermaid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ztDwyEuiBY&feature=related


Yes, I think if we can just pull together the scattered pieces ,we will be whole, authentic people.

x o Ami

PS This song reminds me of Sag energy.

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posted August 11, 2010 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
Earth/Water - Feminine/introverts
Air/Fire - Masculine/extroverts

To me it's more about the harmonious blending of the interplay between ALL the elements. The wheel, cyclic in motion is dependent upon the collective whole/ALL signs. Envision, a fifth element so to speak, as in the Five Perfections, as 5 in numerology is the number of balance. (My lifepath is a 5 in numerology and this is linked to Mercury's rulership of Gemini/Virgo.)

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posted August 11, 2010 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtghght9ILs&feature=related


This is Leo


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posted August 11, 2010 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
I have water and earth, Its needed to make the banks and bottom of my river

Its hand in hand, for me**

guidelines.

Mermaid, Sure post anything you would like to, I do

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posted August 11, 2010 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You know what I am thinking? When I am healthy, I can operate in all the different energies when needed.
I can open my fragile Cancer moon( heart) to someone. If they step on it, I can get all "You are not gonna step on THIS Sista" with my Gemini Venus
I can be Scorpio like if someone messes with me.
I can be Neptune when I want to be the princess in the fairy tale with the handsome prince.

I think this is health--this adaptability
I don't have it ,yet ,BUT I think this is it.

What do you think?

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