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Ami Ann
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posted August 16, 2010 08:16 AM
 
I am feeling more Pluto/core strength.
I submitted to my mother and stayed submitted.
Why?
I was afraid to SEE.
It is bad but I can see ,now.
I have a strong faith in God(or try lol)
I can face things.
Pluto things are ugly to the other parts of our human nature such as Venus/Neptune/moon.
However,maybe it is the Yin/Yang which you talked about earlier.
Pluto/Mars is the Yang . Venus/moon /Neptune is the Yin.
They both exist in the Universe.
Maybe, THAT was what you were trying to tell me when I thought you were messing with me 
X O Ami
I suspect that guy who tried to beat his wife with the hammer was mild mannered. I heard he was.
He was having an affair(Pluto needs)
His wife spent too much money(Pluto addictions)
They were two perfect people(lies)
Pluto will not take lies. The bigger the lies, the bigger the payment Pluto exacts.
The Bible says "Be as wise as serpents,as gentle as doves"
Serpents are the animals which KNOW all about dark things/Pluto.
PS This is the first time I really beat my mother back.
IQ told me to take my power back. I took that advice as sacred. Ami ------------------
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Mblake81
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posted August 16, 2010 08:39 AM
Your building your own point of view, This is good.Remember the process, It will repeat. Meet people Half Way. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 16, 2010 08:41 AM
Mblake - What do you mean---Meet people half way?
Accept other's frailties? Don't expect humans to be anything but human---myself included ?
Ami
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Mblake81
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posted August 16, 2010 11:47 AM
Its an overly generalized statement,I seem to prefer generalizing. Anyway, It means all those things and anything else you can think of. Keep integrating them. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 16, 2010 11:50 AM
You are right. I won't keep the answers unless I find them myself.
A little guidance is OK but not stealing the teachers book and copying down the answers
Ami
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bonadea33
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posted August 16, 2010 02:12 PM
Hi Mblake81,Here is female singer with 10 planets in 3 houses.
I was wrong: she is 27 years old and has planets in 5th, 6th and 8th house. B. IP: Logged |
Mblake81
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posted August 16, 2010 02:19 PM
I like that point of view ami  cheating does work on a short term basis, its not for the long haul unless you keep cheating. Then the problem of not knowing what the actual subject is pops up. its a tangled web we weave eh IP: Logged |
bonadea33
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posted August 16, 2010 02:20 PM
Here is my ex friend: she had all. Money (from rich family), good job as a manager from very good hotel, expensive car, expensive clouds. I told her, she must be happy as she has all.
She told me: all I need is a family.
I had no idea that she had relationship. I have moved away and in December have heard that she died. She was pregnant 5 months and had complications. Surgeon has rescued her child (with 5 months) but not her. She has died with 28 years and 7 months.
I have heard one month later.Her Natal Chart: http://tinypic.com/r/1zxw9rr/4 As you see, her planets are all over the Chart. IP: Logged |
bonadea33
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posted August 16, 2010 02:23 PM
Here is female singer with 10 planets in 3 houses.
I was wrong: she is 27 years old and has all planets in 5th, 6th and 8th house.Her Natal Chart: http://tinypic.com/r/2lm2pms/4 B. IP: Logged |
Mblake81
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posted August 16, 2010 02:29 PM
IMHOWhen you have achieved all the things the american dream promises you, Loved ones are all you need at that point because you have all the other areas covered. You are free to "Just need Loved Ones" They are all that really matters and its much easier to see that when your vision isnt clouded over with greed and self survival. If you were to take the wealth away, the opinion on life that person had may have changed quick. But it would not change so quick if that is what the person felt honestly. Its why some people are poor as dirt but happy as can be. Perception changes all. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 16, 2010 02:39 PM
Mblake
I really am at that point, now, not to brag lol.
I have tasted the dreams and they went up in smoke.
I want my OWN respect and love,first.
Then, I want to love a man.
Then,a circle of friends/family.
Oh, God is first 
I'm not as good as I thought lol
Ami
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Ami Ann
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posted August 17, 2010 11:24 AM
Been thinking about your questions about Neptune.
I am lacking in astrological knowledge of house rulers .
When I get that, I can be more specific about your question concerning how Neptune functions in your chart.
I am working on that next step but it is slow cuz it is the next jump up, I think.I was just thinking about Pluto vs Neptune.
You seem to have gotten comfortable with Pluto energy.
It is James Bond energy, if you could describe it as a person lol Neptune energy would be like an Impressionistic painting.
Pluto would be a stark black and white that showed all the wrinkles, all the imperfections of the subject.
Say it were a photograph of a building. It would show the cracks in the foundation, the crumbling rock, the chipped wood.
Pluto would be celebrity photo's without make-up. Some are URRGGH lol
Neptune would photo's with complete make-up. In the Pluto ,photo's the light would be stark like a mug shot lighing
In the Neptune , there would be candlelight lol Maybe Pluto /Neptune could be like the yin/yang with which you started our discussion SO many pages back lol Pluto would be a playwright like Eugene O'Neill with Long Day's Journey In to Night.
(I bring that up cuz I saw it 6 times ) Neptune would be Disney's Beauty and the Beast or Little Mermaid lol I guess it is what YOU said in the beginning. The yin and yang are on a continuum. It is like a teeter totter
You are out of balance if you too heavy on one side or the other.
I have my eye on some great Neptune songs cuz they are the proverbial love songs lol x o x Ami ------------------
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Ami Ann
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posted August 17, 2010 11:42 AM
Neptune songs
They have such dreamy words lol
If I could ,I would catch a falling star. Shine on you so I'd know where you are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0KNIKMBUio&feature=PlayList&p=886BB418AD95EF2E&index=7
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Ami Ann
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posted August 17, 2010 12:03 PM
Dear Mbklake
I was thinking about something else. Characters like James Bond would not be interesting if they were ALL Pluto.
Whenever you see a strong Scorpio/Pluto character in the movies, they always have a soft, sweet ,sensitive, aesthetic side. Otherwise, they would be the cold blooded killer type and no one would be interested in them lol Did you see The Soprano's.
Tony stopped being interesting to me, and i have heard others say it ,too) when he killed his nephew.
He did it in a cold blooded, non emotional way.
The Neptune part of him(sweet, sensitive, family loving) was gone and he was all Pluto which is ugly --to us. Micheal Corleone was sensitive, kind and loving to his family/friends. James Bond has a warm human side, too. I think this shows that Pluto has to be balanced by Neptune and vice --versa for us to take a valid place in the human family.
Ami
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Ami Ann
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posted August 17, 2010 04:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJNijQzv8Cs&feature=related Just had to share this. Is she human or some Divine creature? x o Ami ------------------
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Mblake81
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posted August 18, 2010 09:52 AM
Yes ami you are correct.Its good you see that IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 18, 2010 10:47 AM
 X O
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Mblake81
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posted August 19, 2010 11:56 AM
Whatever the tale, a false vision was placed at the heart of the imagination, and enforced by a set of love-rewards and shame-punishments. Letting it go is essential, but that entails facing what appears to be failure, ostracism, and loss of face. This is the descent into the Plutonian dark. Navigated gracefully and faithfully, the underworld tempers the King/Queen's power with wisdom, and creates the two qualities which characterize the highest face of this grand energy: a willingness to risk everything, and faith that all can be re-created.That makes me smile, i feel this. ------------------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzyNWyZhUS0 I find these ideas and energies in alot of places, including this song. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 19, 2010 12:10 PM
Hi Mblake
I will find the words later and put them up.
I can't hear them lol x o x Ami PS I am getting my Mars back. Saspratos( my favorite author) says your Mars makes your boundaries.
Without boundaries, you have a terrible life. Tell me about it 
Ever since I backed my mother down, I realize that I CAN stand up and protect what is mine i.e. the me which God gave me.
I can't control other people ,only my reactions :how *I* want to be.
PPS I have a new saying .Just because my parents threw me under the bus does not mean I have to stay there and let the bus run over me.
I can find a new bus stop
PPPS
When I was 14, I realized I was alone. I was not really abused as much as I was neglected.
We had material things so I thought I had a good life.
At 14, I realized I BETTER figure out how life works cuz my back is gonna be my own(Pluto) Then, I gave up as I say,often.
I yielded, submitted, all the fight out of me.
Pluto went to the attic like a mentally ill relative .
There it stayed so I could be nice, passive ,bland and everyone would like me.
Mainly ,no one would get angry.
I was afraid I would melt like the Wicked Witch of the West.
I would become a puddle, amorphous with no hope of ever coming back.
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Ami Ann
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posted August 19, 2010 01:42 PM
I had a horrible dream ,last night. Talk about Pluto.
The only time you can get rid of Pluto is when you go to Heaven.
Then,it will be Neptune all the way.
I want to tell you some things. I will come back when I get them coalesced in my head.
Ami
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Mblake81
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posted August 19, 2010 02:15 PM
That's a good Self Evaluation/Revelation.Keep balancing things out for yourself ami Think of it like libra scales. * Sometimes the scales will dip low or high depending on whats being balanced.. " Yourself in comparison to others can be placed on the scale for evaluation oasis, "dont look back in anger lyric" Slip inside the eye of your mind
Don't you know you might find
A better place to play
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_eye
http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID12201/images/libra.jpg
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Ami Ann
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posted August 19, 2010 03:06 PM
I have goals--to define myself from the gut and the heart.
To see what is--no rose colored glasses.
To be sweet and loving, but if anyone messes with me----Whack 'em
You know what THAT is --the yin and the yang.
We are back to page one lol
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Ami Ann
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posted August 19, 2010 04:43 PM
What kind of life can you have if you continually throw yourself under the bus like some crazy,religious ritual?
Why?
So, you won't have to face how it really was, the goblins under the bed, behind the door(Pluto)
If YOU were bad, then the old reality fits. You keep the demons inside, however you line them up.
You want the old reality to take you where you need to go but if it doesn't, you will die with it or more likely because of it.
Ami
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Ami Ann
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posted August 19, 2010 04:51 PM
Here is the long and short of it. Never submerge your reality to someone else's.
No matter if you stand alone and you most likely will, you will be able to look in the mirror at the end of the day and someone will be there.
It won't be amorphous air looking back at you.
You can be the prettiest, smartest,most talented but amorphous air is amorphous air any way you cut it. Ami
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Ami Ann
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posted August 19, 2010 07:50 PM
You can't squish your Mars down without depressed.
It reminds me of my breasts.I developed at 9
I was large, 36C . Cancer moon gives large breasts.
I squished them flat with two undershirts. Over that, I wore an old ladies shirt cuz it was big--the same one.
It had hand prints from where I pulled it down,constantly so it would stay flat.
My breasts were squished in to oblivion so you could barely see them just like my Mars.
I was not supposed to grow up.
Ami
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