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Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3427 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009	posted August 05, 2010 08:14 PM I think what you were saying with the yin/yang is that there is ONE energy source and the yin(feminine) is in the Yang(Masculine) and vice--versa. HOWEVER, I know all this(or enough) and I am still screwed up Ami ------------------ Shake your Pluto. IP: Logged
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted August 05, 2010 08:17 PM In a simple word, no. its not comfortable, in any way shape or form. "You stare into the void, It stares back" Thats the begining. You are exposed, naked, no where to run or hide. But those rules apply to it as well. thats second. whos will is stronger. Ultimatly you are crushed, smashed to the smallest atom. You are a spec compared to mass power. far far too much for humans. Thats an ego death. yes pluto.. hostile IP: Logged
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3427 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009	posted August 05, 2010 08:20 PM OK--Are you talking about Pluto ,now,with the "staring in the void"? Please --God--let you be talking about Pluto Ami ------------------ Shake your Pluto. IP: Logged
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3427 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009	posted August 05, 2010 08:28 PM NOW--we are talking Ami ------------------ Shake your Pluto. IP: Logged
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3427 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009	posted August 05, 2010 08:30 PM It was worth it to get to this point Ami ------------------ Shake your Pluto. IP: Logged
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted August 05, 2010 08:30 PM thats what i said IP: Logged
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3427 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009	posted August 05, 2010 08:33 PM I am afraid of ego death, ego anniliation, BEING ALONE Maybe THAT is what it takes to shake hands with Pluto. Ami PS Aloneness is the scariest thing in the world-ALL alone----you do anything not to face it--any thing and all sorts of crazy things. PPS I will be back tomorrow--if you want to talk more IP: Logged
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted August 05, 2010 08:47 PM No you could not, We are alone all ways *ego death does mean to be alone, on the contrary. IP: Logged
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3427 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009	posted August 05, 2010 08:48 PM OK I want to ask you a question. Have YOU made peace with that Alone-ness? Ami PS If we don't talk now--then tomorrow--if you want IP: Logged
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted August 05, 2010 08:55 PM No but it's due to my perception, It's not something you make peace with It's hostile IP: Logged
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3427 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009	posted August 05, 2010 09:51 PM Pluto is the Id ,according to my book. It is there inside us--impulses like a dog going after a bone---not good or bad--just part of the human being. It is the animal part of the human being. Ami ------------------ Shake your Pluto. IP: Logged
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted August 05, 2010 10:20 PM Yea IP: Logged
FrozenQueen Knowflake Posts: 133 From: The boundary where 'reality' ends and Dreams begin Registered: May 2010	posted August 05, 2010 11:49 PM Ami, MBlake is not trying to confuse you MBlake, I understand what you mean...not the words but the meaning behind those words. All the Neptune aspects in your chart and your Sun conjunct Uranus causes you to have all the experiences that you are describing here. However, your Virgo Ascendant's need to rationalize and 'put in words' is what causes this confusion (aka Neptune). I believe you are 'awakening', taking the first step towards reclaiming your Self. The crux of this experience centers on blurring the boundary between the 'visible' and the 'invisible' which basically translates to a shut down of the senses: the same 5 senses that you relied upon ever since you were a child no longer function. The rational mind (Virgo Ascendant) tries to make sense of this but the mind can only quantify a new experience by comparing it to its previous ones and see where it finds a match. But an awakening is not something that happens everyday. You are right. There is nothing in the void but nothingness. You mentioned quicksand...if you want to escape from quicksand then you need to stop struggling. There you go... The answer that I have is one you already know. But knowing is not the same as understanding. This is my perspective. By all means leave it if it does not satisfy your reality. This is what I could tell you and you can choose to ignore it as your indisputable Free Will right. And Ami can help you understand your aspects better than me ------------------ Wounds are meant to heal even if they leave scars. - Yours Truly IP: Logged
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3427 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009	posted August 06, 2010 01:18 AM ((((Frozen Queen))) Thanks for your input I agree with you that I was wrong that Mblake was trying to mess with me. I just got in to quick sand and thought "WHAT is this?" Please, keep sharing, Frozen Queen. As I learn more about Astrology and am able to give , I try to do that. It is NEVER a closed discussion for anyone who wants to join!! x o x Ami PS Frozen Queen What did you go through that you were able to understand that? Did you have a Near Death Experience/meditation experience or some similar spiritual experience? Is it just your own ability to think as Mblake does--a similar perception of the world? ------------------ Shake your Pluto. IP: Logged
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3427 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009	posted August 06, 2010 08:51 AM Dear Mblake I am sorry if I hurt you by thinking you were messing with me. I just was sitting here trying to offer something(my help/care) to you and I started to feel like I was a fool that maybe you were just trying to play with me. Please forgive me for that! Ami IP: Logged
mermaid26 Knowflake Posts: 676 From: just visiting you know Registered: Jun 2009	posted August 06, 2010 09:04 AM Ami - I get where Frozenqueen and Mblake are coming from. The process is also symbolically described in Christianity...the transfiguration...to resurrection. The experience need not be defined or achieved via a religious experience per say. (i.e. Consciousness raising activities) We die unto ourselves and aloneness becomes Oneness. There is no longer a sense of separateness because polarities are unified. Not unlike the mystic's experience of divine union. The experience is quite unique and difficult to put into words. One is put in the crucible (Pluto) into the fire, to transmute the dirt (dark matter in the subconscious) to gold to rebirth (of water and spirit) we shed our old skin so to speak and the process is ever going/cyclic as refining the soul/psyche requires tending the fire so to speak. We are all works in progress, to work in cooperation with one another, in the collective whole, to achieve wholeness. Ami - about your previous question...you know more about the aspects than I ... so I can't define a clear answer yet. You are a good healer Ami and I simply believe that at the microcosm, when you heal yourself, you heal the Universe at the macrocosm. IP: Logged
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted August 06, 2010 09:07 AM im aware of my synapses firing and making connections, i follow them. its one way i understand the physical in order to understand the not-so-physical. about 10 years ago zen philosphy helped me understand what is "duality" or "Dualism" I had to understand the physical first, then interpret energy. Then i learned they are the same. Im more existential these days. Its phases i go through. IP: Logged
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3427 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009	posted August 06, 2010 09:14 AM Mblake I am cool with everything! Ami ------------------ Shake your Pluto. IP: Logged
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted August 06, 2010 09:16 AM Mermaid has the closest answer that can really be said. Its a tireless wheel. I think frozenqueen understands it too. From my view you heal the universe on a macro level for yourself, its your doorway. When you look around you see people still screaming and running around aimless, They have to heal it for themselves. You cant do it for them from my view. Because when you go through that doorway you leave all else behind. Its a commitment due to the only way i can understand. Regardless how lofty my head gets i remain rooted in this plane, And so the vision is filtered through a lens. IP: Logged
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3427 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009	posted August 06, 2010 09:28 AM IQ said you were a brilliant thinker. Perhaps, I can't keep up with you lol That is OK. I am sure most people could not keep up with Einstein, you know ? Ami PS I will look up the Neptune aspects later. ------------------ Shake your Pluto. IP: Logged
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted August 06, 2010 10:15 AM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakras Ajna, Third eye, is where my sight comes from. I was born with it open, later i closed it, now its back. This is active in me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalamus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland The pineal gland produces this naturally http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine Upon death the gland floods the brain, causing a massive Vision. *edit, I am not promoting drug use, People found a way to make it. I have no need to use it. IP: Logged
Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 3427 From: Pluto Registered: Dec 2009	posted August 06, 2010 10:30 AM I will look them up later and be back. Ami ------------------ Shake your Pluto. IP: Logged
DD Knowflake Posts: 5582 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 06, 2010 10:43 AM Alone - or - al(l) one? IP: Logged
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted August 06, 2010 11:16 AM its one in the same. IP: Logged
mermaid26 Knowflake Posts: 676 From: just visiting you know Registered: Jun 2009	posted August 06, 2010 11:18 AM More fun word play - the answer lies within - hostile ... changes to ... holiest DD IP: Logged

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