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Ami Ann
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posted August 07, 2010 09:33 AM
 
Pluto is strength but it has to be used with integrity and character.
Integrity and character are other parts ,though, like Jupiter(ethics) or the moon(heart)
Pluto is amoral.
My problem is ACCESS to Pluto/ id. That is where my life broke down like china smashing against a hard floor
I am seeing that,Mblake.
Keep writing,please. Ami ------------------
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Mblake81
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posted August 07, 2010 09:42 AM
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mermaid26
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posted August 07, 2010 10:00 AM
Mblake - I like how you present your insights.Ami - you are well on the path to awareness and acceptance of duality, and I have the feeling that ONE day your signature line will change to something like - Love your Pluto, the Phoenix has risen. (rise/fall ... fall/rise) IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 07, 2010 10:00 AM
Today, I will study them.
Thank you (((Mblake))) x o x Ami ------------------
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Ami Ann
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posted August 07, 2010 10:06 AM
Thank you , Mermaid
When that day comes, I will change it 
x o
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Mblake81
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posted August 07, 2010 10:36 AM
You could think it this way,Pluto is lacking in your chart the same as its not interacting in some peoples lives. it may not need to be there. you could already have what you need, Thats why i keep saying humans are forgetfull and never seem to remember. Bill Hicks, sagitarius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q95kX_EP2Nk&feature=related wonderwall lyric
And all the roads we have to walk along are winding
And all the lights that lead us there are blinding Hicks:
The roller coaster goes round and round up and down, Its loud and brightly colored.
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Mblake81
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posted August 07, 2010 11:13 AM
From my view the human race taken at the sum of its total, is by largly schizophrenic.our race has a break down in unison, fall before you get back up. Humanity has a brighter future but it must go through the crucible first. crucible:
1. A vessel made of a refractory substance such as graphite or porcelain, used for melting and calcining materials at high temperatures.
2. A severe test, as of patience or belief; a trial. See Synonyms at trial.
3. A place, time, or situation characterized by the confluence of powerful intellectual, social, economic, or political forces: " Tool 46 and 2 lyric. See my shadow changing,
Stretching up and over me.
Soften this old armor.
Hoping I can clear the way
By stepping through my shadow,
Coming out the other side.
Step into the shadow. in humanities case, See Humanities Crucible changing
affecting everyone at once.
Optimistic we will survive.
Humans Going through the crucible.
Coming out the other side changed.
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Ami Ann
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posted August 07, 2010 02:14 PM
Guess what, Mblake?
I'm getting it X
Ami
PS You know what is funny about life? I tried to reach out to you--just to help and YOU ended up helping me.
Today, someone in my family was a jerk to me . I gave him a Clint Eastwood look and he backed off and apologized
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FrozenQueen
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From: The boundary where 'reality' ends and Dreams begin
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posted August 07, 2010 03:06 PM
Pluto salutes YOU.
I can tell one thing about Pluto...he loves it when we stand up for ourselves.
Keep up the Good Work. I can see the ice over your Pluto breaking.
Yay! All hail Ami.
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Ami Ann
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posted August 07, 2010 08:53 PM
Love You, Girlfriend
x o Ami
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Mblake81
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posted August 07, 2010 11:50 PM
Another example of plutos influence in a life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JXmg2G5-Bc&feature=related on a different side,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhtg7A9BckA amoral nature. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-rkpgchJOA&feature=related Notice he would have left the man on the ground alone, had he not said something to begin with. I should note he was mortally wounded, gunshot. What i see here is a man who is dieing and asking for mercy, kill me quickly..even though its clearly not what the man is saying. An example of one type of action and reaction. The man could have removed that pipe bomb from his mouth, what it means is his actions sealed his fate. In short careful what you ask for, you may not know what it is you are really asking, and as such the answer you are givin confuses you. Did you see the mans expression when the joker answered? that.
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Ami Ann
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posted August 08, 2010 07:59 AM
I am STILL working on my homework Mblake 
Halfway through--taking it slowly.
Powerful stuff. I pushed it all down these years so I could be "nice".
x o x o
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Ami Ann
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posted August 08, 2010 10:08 AM
WOW ----Tool Vicarious.
That is id isn't it? Id is amoral.It does not make us bad to have an id. It just IS.
I am seeing ,from my reading, that certain planetary energies are amoral.
They are just energy. Mercury is reason. Mars is drive. Venus goes after beauty in an amoral way.
It just IS.
Jupiter is ethics, I think.
The moon is feeling, prolly pure feeling, no ethics, just heart like when you love someone and you feel it.
We have ALL the parts. I guess you become emotionally ill when you label one or the other "bad"
You throw it away but does it stay down????
NOOOO
I used to be able to touch my Pluto,so to speak. I thought ,"Well, if *I* feel some ungodly, ghastly impulse lol--it must be human.
Then, my mother, who is a therapist ,by the way, got in to my psyche and told me that my feelings and perceptions were bad.
I thought it was bad to have a separate identity.
I thought I was killing her--really.
Ami
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Ami Ann
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posted August 08, 2010 10:38 AM
This is interesting, Mblake.
Your NN--where you need to go--is Cancer 25 degree.
My Uranus is on it --no jokes  I know it means something to why we are teaching each other but what-- eludes me--in words.
Ami
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Mblake81
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posted August 08, 2010 11:29 AM
Its difficult at best to find these topics on american tv, adult tv.Watching the whole series i appreciated things differently. I watched the entire series in a two day period. Try to get yourself through the first season, it was still by largly for children. I still hold it in high regard, but ive never seen the new movie and dont plan on it. Aang holds a special place in my heart. season 3 deals with the chakras and how they interact in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar:_The_Last_Airbender
And something else,
http://www.freewebs.com/oneultramind/ IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 08, 2010 12:08 PM
I am sitting on my porch watching the rain.I repressed so many feelings and memories but they come back as I heal.
I flipped back to when I was 14 taking a walk with a boy near a beach.
He really liked me. He was crying telling me.
Why do I feel that now?
It is what you are talking about. Ami
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Mblake81
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posted August 08, 2010 05:19 PM
Here Ami, Listen to this as loud as you can tolerate it. Female singer. I love her insight and courage to say it, plus the artistic ability to make it sound correct. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaTuheM8oTU To me that songs causes an orgasm of the spirit. her video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1caCh-dRiS0&feature=related This is where reading whats behind the message or in this case Visual can help.
in the video any time she talks of facing your adversity its started by laying,falling down. Notice she falls and bounces back quick, except when she beat the machine in her head, it layed her out... at first. IP: Logged |
Mblake81
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posted August 08, 2010 05:43 PM
But i also want you to notice the scenes where she is in a glass box, well there is two of them.This is her view of her own mind. One side is trying to break free, the other isnt. While her vision and dream are real its only half complete. "lyric: there is no way out of my land" there would be only one of her in the mind, unified and shed notice she put the box on herself, THAT IS THE WAY OUT by the way the energy in the sound you hear at 2:54 when she bounces back. I summon that energy at will now, nothing stops me unless its much stronger.. thats the point its completely subtle but damn its powerfull, Its a form of forced physics. the lyrics at the time is "Trapped in yourself" the energy is pulling her out. Thats the point IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 08, 2010 06:04 PM
I'm hatching out of my egg,Mblake.
Keep them coming 
x o Ami
My problem ,in a word, if you can put a whole life's misery in a word, is I suppressed my Pluto.
Other people's Pluto's took over and gave mine a few more kicks down.
I felt guilty if I fought back.
My mother trained me with "Who do you think YOU are?"
It is always in my head. It is really in my cells ,by now.
Ami
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Ami Ann
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posted August 08, 2010 06:10 PM
Had to make another reply so you could see my new signature .
Ami
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Mblake81
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posted August 08, 2010 06:23 PM
I like it, may iRock your Pluto Cause Hes Gonna Rock You Anyway, You only go through ~(this)~ life once.
Rock your Pluto, He'll rock you back
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Ami Ann
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posted August 08, 2010 06:28 PM
Thank you Mblake, Rock On with your bad self
Ami
PS I REALLY like the music and the message.
PPS I have been trying to have a relationship BEFORE I had my Pluto solid.
I wanted someone to tell me *I* was OK but *I* was not telling myself that.
*I* was telling myself I was horrible, actually.
There are SO many songs where your Pluto meets someone else's.
However, if you don't have yours-what happens??
Problems.
I will share my favorite Pluto in synastry(two people in a relationship) chart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhRuIqIy7Iw
This is Neptune in Synastry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzFuL_RteXc
I just love this song lol IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 08, 2010 08:21 PM
I feel comfortable with Neptune energy.
I am a natural medical intuitive.
The realm of Neptune--the psychic dimension has opened itself to me in a comfortable way.
I feel comfortable with Venus energy--making things beautiful , graceful.
I feel comfortable with the moon energy--feelings, the heart
I feel comfortable with Mercury--the rational mind.
It is really Pluto AND Mars, too, that make me less of a person i.e. shut down.
Those drives just feel wrong,somehow, and I feel guilty
Ami
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Mblake81
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posted August 08, 2010 09:34 PM
Let me use your words,use the mercury to understand where mars and pluto peices fit in the puzzle, because they do belong there no matter how much they make you squirm. Sorry such is life. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 08, 2010 09:56 PM
I suppose I can't throw away Pluto and Mars.
You got a point .
Just cuz they got shut down doesn't mean I can bemoan that fact all day long--right?
Just cuz it is not an easy energy for me --right now--doesn't mean I have to throw up my hands---Poor me  .
x o x Ami
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