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Mblake81
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posted August 10, 2010 02:13 AM
 
The door gunner reminds me of the nature of death,It doesnt care, amoral. but it is smart. "How can you kill women and children?" "Easy!, you just dont lead them so much" Lead in terms of gunnery means the distance between you and the target, the target is moving and so are you, You have to intuit the distance and there speed and direction they are going in, in order to hit them. oh yeah and the size of the target compared to your distance away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI im not advocating this is ok or something, its just how i can understand its nature. IP: Logged |
Mblake81
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posted August 10, 2010 03:18 AM
hmm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/7934116/Dr-Dre-to-release-album-based-on-the-sounds-of-planets.html have to wait an see what this will be. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 03:48 AM
Woke up in the middle of the night to these great posts. Will look them up in the morning.
YES, Neptune rules drugs of all sorts--illegal/legal/alcohol etc. Interesting info you have there, Mblake.
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Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 04:08 AM
You know what would be interesting---adding songs and clips for other energies such as the Moon, Venus, Mars etc.
What do you think?
Or we could stick with Neptune/Pluto for a while.
Yes--maybe we should until we get it better.
Yes--I would like to wait.
Ami
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Mblake81
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posted August 10, 2010 08:52 AM
ill see what i can findIP: Logged |
mermaid26
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posted August 10, 2010 09:06 AM
Mblake, I relate to this quote of yours:"Being rooted in reality (feet in the ground) while having your head in the clouds (mind in the stars) is my choice." *** Oasis - as is O
or ... as is (wholeness)***
THANK YOU Ami! I just wanted to tell you that your work on this thread is helping me see things more clearly too. Especially integrating the energies of Pluto/Neptune. I like how you describe them and how they need to work together. You gave me some Bingo/Lightbulb flashes of truth! I am also personally challenged similarily, since my Nept in Scorp opposes my Taur Moon.
My Pis Sun opposes my Vir asc, with many other chart oppositions, requiring that I balance these energies. I am both left/right brain, slightly ambidexterous and such. I have an empty 12th house in Leo, which I think tends to "hide" my creativity and Sun self. My mother who is highly creative herself can easily put down artist types and has often referred mostly to the negative side of Pisces, such as them being irresponsible types, head in the clouds, etc...
Imagine always hearing this as a Neptunian child and yet now her view may finally, ever so slowing, be changing to positive, as I heal and become myself. For instance, all of my siblings are unemployed at the moment. My Pisces niece is the one with the job and stability at right now and my mom says "Can you believe the Pisces is the one working?" I just noticed today my mom's Chiron conjuncts my NN by one degree. Who heals/teaches who I wonder?
Anyways, I'm learning to be more of my Piscean true nature, finally, and to speak my true voice and live my true self expression. I'm learning the tremendous strength of Pluto that I contain and I'm also aware how fortunate I am for my Virgo placements. I'm learning how to ground so that I don't "fly away."
For me, the upside of Neptune is the awareness of transcendent beauty, the ability to put on rose colored glassed because we do clearly SEE so much ugliness. It simply seems to me that everyone should have a pair of rose colored glass handy, for there is most likely to come a time in ALL lives, for a much needed escape. Movies, books, music, myth, fairy tale, art, dance, meditation, etc...are channels of escape that most partake in, without the immediate awareness that this IS their brief escape from reality.
Interesting, the current transit relating to this from the New Moon article thread... The degree of Uranus is Aries 1: A Mermaid Emerging From The Ocean, A Seal Embraces Her. This, as I've mentioned in previous writings, shows the necessity of emerging, finding the place where one is meant to be, and, as with 'The Mermaid' finding your feet and your voice and shedding old skins, somewhat like the Selkie myth (Google it and read up about it, it's very interesting). IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 09:21 AM
Thank you for sharing that ,Mermaid. I have sensed those oppositions in you.
I think you feel stuck in the Pisces like you have to BE that and only that.
Other parts are lesser cuz they are not "spiritual"
x o x Ami
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Mblake81
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posted August 10, 2010 09:39 AM
this is for you, i dont have any specific meaning for it other than i thought you would like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8OipmKFDeM&feature=channel http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Don't-Look-Back-In-Anger-l yrics-Oasis/9F37CCAC2920FB794825686B0011B3B2 but i will note that noel whom is holding the glass over his right eye, Hes singing to your right brain. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 09:50 AM
Sweet, Mblake. I will listen, now.
I was thinking that maybe it would be fun and educational TO add other planets energies cuz you have to integrate them all to be healthy.
Maybe, for you--the moon and Venus are harder than Pluto and Mars.
Well, for me--many of them are hard. The Sun is for sure.
The Sun is healthy ego. Ami
Love the song,Mblake. He is one talented guy!
Wonderwall is my favorite ,so far. It is haunting. Maybe, it shows that we all need other people.
I do Kundalini yoga every morning and I love to put great music to it cuz it makes it easier lol
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Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 09:59 AM
This analogy came to me that might help someone.
Saturn seems like it is a throwing of cold water on something.
So, Ada had her husbands Saturn on her Venus. He was throwing cold water on her love/aestheic nature.
If you have Saturn on aspect to something--what it aspects--is getting cold water/a damper throw on it .
That helps me,anyway lol Ami
PS In synastry--if someone's Saturn is on your Mars--they will throw cold water on your drive etc PPS Mblake--what are YOUR hardest energies?
Is it Neptune, the moon, Venus?
You seem pretty comfortable with Pluto lol
Perhaps, you are somewhat comfortable with the Sun--healthy ego.
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Mblake81
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posted August 10, 2010 10:06 AM
If anyone wishes to use my thread for the pursuit of exploring these areas please do.My chart is one sided as any i have seen. My thoughts are biased and this is how i can warn others of what to look for. I am able to balance it in my own way by knowing that what i know isnt the whole picture at all. Just mine. P.S. No one take this personal but my mind simply doesnt want to look at those things right now, But i know its important for others to heal and balance. Its my messed up way of balancing me. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 10:13 AM
I answered my own question. You don't want to explore the Venus/moon etc in your chart.
Right?
It is good you know where you do and don't want to go.
That is strength.
I was just thinking about some energies are easier for each sex to embrace.
For me, the order of difficulty would be Pluto, Mars and Sun.
I have some ideas for clips for Mars. Mars is drive.
It is amoral like a dog going for a bone as we said earlier. x o Ami
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Mblake81
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posted August 10, 2010 10:18 AM
replace dont with not right now, i dont know what tomorrow holds ami.IP: Logged |
Mblake81
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posted August 10, 2010 10:19 AM
I would have to disagree with you on the gender idea,I dated a female scorpio that was stronger than me, so to speak, from my view IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 10:22 AM
quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBfdl6hNZ9k
Healthy Ego(Sun).
It is a little steamy lol.
NOW--everyone will get in on the discussion 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-FrR-f4ig4&feature=related
This (above),also,shows Healthy Ego(Sun) in Kevin Costner.
Ami
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Mblake81
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posted August 10, 2010 10:23 AM
Virgo MoonExpressed by another scorio who has it too, Gavin Rossdale who is married to no dout singer gwen stefani.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjgdhr5fRUA&feature=av2n
http://www.metrolyrics.com/machine-head-lyrics-bush.html and another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVmOIWiSxSM My personal favorite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7RVp3DvX1o "sharp about everyone but yourself" god dang if that isnt true for me. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 10:44 AM
I listened ,Mblake. I have a hard time feeling Virgo energy .
I don't have any.
Virgo square Gemini. I have lots of Gemini. Maybe, you have a hard time feeling what Gemini energy feels like.
There are certain energies that I can see and even appreciate in other people such as Aries but I do not HAVE them so it is like the difference between sympathy and empathy.
Sympathy --you can appreciate their pain.
Empathy--you can feel it lol Ami
PS I am working on finding one clip where I LOVE the Pluto energy in a woman.
It is strong but dignified and elegant. PPS I am trying to get a sense of the Virgo energy and am a little more ,now.
It seems like a hard energy lol
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Mblake81
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posted August 10, 2010 10:46 AM
My mother is gemini, i know all too well what gemini energy is like<My best friend is gemini as well. Schitzoprenic, its why its called the twins my view only* IP: Logged |
Mblake81
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posted August 10, 2010 10:48 AM
Its a virgo moon, scorpio soulVirgo is being powered by scorpio, what do you get with that? The sun or soul is your motor so to speak swallowed song is making me cry but im not upset  fyi IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 10:55 AM
Gemini energy is one of my easier one.I like how it feels inside like wearing a light summer dress on a warm day lol
YES YES YES
Virgo/ Scorpio would be a very,very hard.
If I think WHAT could be harder, I don't know.
They are so very,very different.
Ami
PS I am Gemini/Scorpio but that does not seem hard like Virgo/Scorpio would.
I think Scorpio would just want to be his intense old self lol
Virgo would say,"No, don't do this. Do it this way. Do it that way"
Scorpio would say"Back off ,man, just FEEL" 
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Mblake81
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posted August 10, 2010 11:01 AM
Hey Bingo! thats my own personal interplay, feel while doing it.IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 11:06 AM
Yes, I just looked back at your chart.
You have a Virgo ASC and a Virgo moon which is in the 12th house.
You have a Scorpio Sun.Yes, Your moon is strong Virgo. Your mars is too I think.
The 12th house forces you to unearth these planets more than if they were in another house.
IOW, you have to struggle--doubly to get them to be themselves.
I see your struggle. It is not JUST Virgo energy but buried Virgo energy that you have to FORCE to go straight.
If you get my drift lol The first step is always facing it and you ARE.
I admire and respect that !
Also, you have the planets at the bottom which makes it hard for you to reach out--I assume.
I have them at the top which is a saving grace for me.
I reached out all my life.
If someone doesn't like me, I get over it 
I believe God(to me) gives us Saving Graces in the chart as IQ told Ada her Mars in Scorpio was her saving grace.
When you--or anyone --finds them--they can be the driver out of the hard energies !
Ami
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Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 11:10 AM
I am gonna meditate on your chart today to see if I can find Saving graces, if that is OK with you. x o Ami
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Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 11:12 AM
You know I had a thought about Virgo/Scorpio.
I am a musician.Some musicians are technically perfect--no mistakes but it is cold.
Other are less perfect but it has soul.
Willie Nelson,for example, does not have a great voice but he has soul. Virgo would be the perfect technician and Scorpio would be the soul
Ami
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Ami Ann
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posted August 10, 2010 11:24 AM
I WISH I could find some clips of Mars energy. I need to make peace with that.
I have Mars in Cancer which is it's Fall. It is like the 12th house Mars.
It like to stay in the quick sand and not express it's potency.
It is really uncomfortable in a wife beater flexing it's muscles
Ami
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