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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Venus trine Mars

Venus trine Mars in the natal chart indicates harmony between the active and passive aspects of the self. We will generally appear pleasant to others and attract friends easily, unless the rising sign or descendant present conflicting energies. We are friendly and warm, and project sexual charisma that is very attractive to others. In love, we are passionate and devoted and may not be happy outside of a romantic relationship. We are sexually motivated and a bit forward, but this should not necessarily indicate promiscuity unless Venus or Mars are afflicted. However, our lack of sexual inhibitions may create false expectations in others, and we may need to be definite about what we want from a relationship to avoid heartache. Creativity is high and if Mars is strong, we should be able to be productive. If Mars is in fall or badly aspected our energies might be dissipated easily. If Venus is in fall or badly aspected we may be too susceptible to the opposite sex and have difficulty establishing good values in life.

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Dreamy_AriesGirl
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posted August 05, 2010 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamy_AriesGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Its really not important who is ahead.
What matters is to find out how can you
progress with your life.

"And perhaps the foresight is a simple illusion, to some people how would you really know unless your in my shoes afterall babe?"

I know this from my own experience.
And because i also have Virgo ASC, Virgo Moon and Pluto influenced Sun, like you

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
From what I can see, Mblake, you have good Mars and Venus aspects.
The Mars has the 12 house difficulty in easy expression but no other hard things, as far as I can see, so the description of Mars trine Venus would apply to you in the best possible way.
In common words, you are a cutie .


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posted August 05, 2010 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Jupiter conjunct Pluto
A conjunction of Jupiter and Pluto confers the determination to achieve goals that will bring about improvements for both you and others. You have a very strong and penetrating insight, and a good deal of leadership ability. You are determined to enjoy life to its fullest. Dedicated to your ideals, you have a bit of the zealot in you.

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posted August 05, 2010 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
Hello MBlake81. I'm thinking the 12th house reveals your hidden "gold", hence the alchemical process requiring purification. So, I'm curious, do you express your imagination artistically ever, as a healthy release for your pent up energies?

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Mermaid
Do you see the 12th house planets as similar to a planet in it's Fall.
I have Mars in Cancer in it's Fall. I have to double my efforts to get to my drives(aggression/sexuality), to feel comfortable with them and then to express them directly.
Is this how a 12th house planet "feels"
I am doing it so it can be done.
First, you have to understand what you are dealing with i.e.energies that are not forward oriented.
Then, you can point them in the right direction.
What do you think? Please, critique honestly

Ami

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posted August 05, 2010 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
This isnt meant to be personal.*

The statement about how the planet feels is interpreted by a brain and the limits of its understanding.

You could see it as a guide, a reminder that everything human will fade and die, this covers the entire subject but its half the story.

I feel no sadness or happiness about knowing this, it simply is.

The fall is necessary to get back up.

push and pull,
give and take.
how you understand that is only limited by the individual.

~tao

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Yes

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Neptune in the Fourth House 4th hs
Neptune in Sagittarius
Neptune Opposition Midheaven
Mars Square Neptune
Neptune Square Ascendant
Jupiter Sextile Neptune
Saturn Sextile Neptune
Neptune Sextile Plut

Whats all this neptune, and what is the neptunian higher mind?

Neptune rules the right brain correct? and mercury the left? Mine is in scorpio.

Mercury in the Second House 2nd hs
Mercury in Scorpio
Mercury Sextile Mars
Mercury Sextile Venus

So if you were to combine these two energies and how they interact,what would the outcome look like?

my goal in this is to see a mental picture (abstract) of my brains workings from another persons point of view.

then compare.


Since this was your original question. I will see if I can put it in my thinking cap in the next few days


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posted August 05, 2010 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
hey ami,

I will respond to the other two questions you asked after i finish eating, I just happen to see that topic and had to jump in on it.

your questions are interesting

about the neptune subject, yes please.
i found a subject called "iron fist in a velvet glove"

yea

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
OK Mblake
Yes, respond later is great.
When I ask how a planet "feels" ,it is just my way of understanding Astrology.
I am psychic. I feel energies so my way of learning Astrology is to try to feel the different placements, aspects etc.


Ami
PS --If you have an article "Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove"--put it up.

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posted August 05, 2010 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
if you think about it, how you are describing it is also another way of saying what i did.

This is how you understand the subject and are expressing a need for me to recognize it.

i do and have since the start, how can i do that you might wonder.

its a broad based general viewpoint, i see this as part of the neptune mind idea. If you have ever had an experience of "being one" this is what it does to you.

ive heard the same about people who trip mushrooms, " i feel at one with everything" but then its hard for them to explain that, to do it in a non "generalized" way is difficult at best.

Its because the Universal Energy does not pick and choose. Like death in the sense of fairness,

young or old
rich or poor
happy or sad
in love or in misery.

death greats you all, because it does not and is incapable of the act of picking and choosing.

picking and choosing is what humans do, because its all we have to do.

Imagine being half part of an energy system that sustains what we know as life,energy, the universe or whatever you want.

Could you really stop to eyeball this one thing?

and what would happen if you did?

they knew

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Well,Mblake, I feel more comfortable with Neptune energy(right brain /we are all one in the universal soup lol ) than Pluto energy even though I have strong Pluto in my chart.

I was brought up to be "nice" and that does not go with Pluto lol.

Ami

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posted August 05, 2010 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
pluto can help you root out problems that keep you from understanding what universal soup means.

its everything.

no seperation in that sense is possible

neptune can become a very sturdy place if one can see and ride the current.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Please go on about Pluto. I am Pluto deficient lol in the sense that Pluto is squished down like some unacceptable relative who will blurt out something at a family dinner lol.
They say Pluto is the id. I pushed that energy down cuz I was taught it was "bad" and I was bad if I even had it, let alone express it.
Probably Pluto energy is harder for a female than a male.
Some energies are easy for me like the moon and Venus but Pluto and Mars are hard---VERY hard!

Ami
PS Are those your wrists?


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posted August 05, 2010 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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posted August 05, 2010 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
relate the push and pull, male female, good bad is indeed part of the same wheel.

here is a start http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J98dVFVWBuk

If matter yang and energy is yin, The space we see is matter/yang and we see it with our human body (yang) eyes.

Yin is energy and we see this with our minds, or the yin.

Even the brain has a motor, left brain yang and right brain yin.

Notice that in each half there is part of the other.

its a action and reaction, vision the movement of atoms.

astronomy yang.
astrology yin.

both has planets, both deal with space. so they do have parts of each inside the other.

bingo bango folks

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I studied Accupuncture so I know what you mean ,a little, about the yin/yang.


Ami

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posted August 05, 2010 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
if you watch the second part of that video, right at the begining, it shows how the milky way may have been formed.

Maybe its me but it looks like a spinning swirl, a ying and yang.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Are you high,now ?

Ami

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posted August 05, 2010 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
would it make me sound more credible if i was? probably not.

i person must be high to think such things.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 05, 2010 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
No--I just don't know if you are being serious with me or trying to mess with me ? IF you are seriously trying to talk , that is fine and I want to but if you are just trying to throw out concepts for the fun of messing with someone , then I am not interested.

Ami

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posted August 05, 2010 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
listen its just how i see things, im not asking anyone to beleive it.

however it has been nice expressing it to others for a change.

you and aries are the only ones conversing
anyway.

*edit sorry mermaid i got caught up writing and missed you.

artistic.. its usually expressed in one blinding burst of creation in a practical matter, apply that to whatever i happen to be doing at the time.

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posted August 05, 2010 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I guess for me, I understand the yin/yang enough for my current purposes.
I need to learn to integrate Pluto/Mars and other such things in my life.
I offer myself(with my limited skills lol) to someone who wants to share and talk about ways we can heal/grow. become more whole /better etc.
If you are interested in that--I am available but further philosophical talk is not something I am really interested in.


Ami

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posted August 05, 2010 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
Im sorry

i understand these things through the means which you dont want to discuss.

But do you have a question about pluto or mars that you think i can answer based off the ways i have displayed so far?

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posted August 05, 2010 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for saying that and being sweet about it.
I have a hard time standing up for myself

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