posted January 25, 2011 01:17 AM            

I believe that people strong in Sedna energy have Indigo,Crystal traits too

Sedna is a transneptunian dwarf planet named after the Inuit Ocean Goddess who was also ruler of Adlivun,the Underworld located at the bottom of the Arctic Ocean. It has an orbit of over 11,000 years. It has the greatest average distance of all the transneptunian objects. It's the most outer of the outer objects in our solar system.

Sedna was believed to provide the animals of the ocean to the Inuit people

any ways.....

Alison Chester-Lambert wrote some insightful things about Sedna.

pages 172 - 173
From her new book:
THE FUTURE IN THE STARS

Those individuals with prominent Sedna energy will have experience of never really feeling completely at home in the sphere of personal relationships. This might range from feeling a little awkward as though something is perhaps 'missing', to an intangible fear of impending annihilation. The ability to feel completely safe might seem strangely elusive for some unknown reason.

It has been suggested that people whose whole lives are influenced by Sedna's energy will demonstrate these themes. In the first part of their lives they may start attract aggressive, angry and destructive people to them, then later they may comprehensively spurn and dismiss them.

Sedna types might attract damaged lonely souls who themselves abuse and attack as a wounded animal will. Their task is to move out of this pattern, toughen up and get firm with this damaged cycle.

There are better, more fulfilling things lined up for them than this. They should embrace global issues instead. Sedna types march to a different drum beat. The lonely arctic waves of an unsatisfactory relationship will eventually present them with no choice. The howling gales will echo round their soul with the voices of a thousand screaming seagulls. They can shrivel up inside from the loneliness and cold around them, or they can spiritually surge into a no-nonsense awareness of their own strength and authority. I'm not saying that one-to-one relationships are impossible for them, but they will struggle in the same way as Sedna, until they find a channel for all that cosmic and spiritual power. Then one-to-one relationships can be less stressed and laden with energies that shouldn't be played out in this area. Trying to extract or play out Sedna's powerful authority and familiarity with universal suffering in relationship doesn't work. If you resonate to an energy that loves and feels for millions of lives, then how do you live this out within the limits of a tiny personal relationship? You can't. The compassion is too immense, the victimisation needs to be too immense, the pain needs to be too immense.

Sedna feels at one with, and has authority over, the whole of creation. As a planet, she travels nearly to the next Solar System and back. She feels the pain and loneliness of nearly 11,000 years on her own, and responsibility for the essence or soul of creation. If you have the capacity for that much awareness, it's hard to feel content with the mundane aspects of day to day life.

People who resonate with this should try channeling into animal charities. Become concerned about arctic matters. If you choose to eat animals, which Sedna is not oppose to in the myth, try to eat only those animals that you feel were more properly respected.

Become aware that everything is one and you are part of it. Feel your connectedness. Become a caretaker of the planet. The Pagans, Druids, and Wiccans have understood this all along. Sedna has come to give the message a focus, and raise awareness globally. The stakes are too high for any one of us to ignore them.

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posted January 25, 2011 07:42 AM            

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Originally posted by lucie:
@Glaucus thanks for this post about sedna!i never heared of this planet before so its some surprise ))!i resonate with the dark energies in early life and now those e3nergies with my 30years do not come into my life as they used to.thumbs up for this!why is traditional western astrology neglect sedna?is it an asteroid?

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No...It's a transneptunian(orbits beyond Neptune) dwarf planet candidate that was discovered in 2004.
It has an orbit of over 11,000 years. Asteroids typically have orbits of up to around 5 years.

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posted January 25, 2011 10:43 AM            

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Originally posted by blonderiverkat:
If and when we do eat meet, we bless it first...my kids are Native American, as a matter of fact, of Mayan descent, as well as Apache, Navajo and Cherokee...my youngest told me a few weeks ago what they did was apologize after killing the animal, then blessing it...he says he has a sense of remembering...that he believes he was an indian warrior of some sort...I wouldn't be surprised...

Kat

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Wow cool! I was an iroquois woman shortly after the colonists arrived I think. The next life I spent as a white settler in Texas. It's funny how those changes happen.

When I was in 4rth grade I said I wanted a kayak for christmas, and I've already been told I have past lives as a shaman (I don't think it was the iroquois life).

posted January 25, 2011 10:45 AM            

I found this one very interesting:

HOW TO HEAL TINNITUS AND EAR PROBLEMS HOLISTICALLY
By Javier Ramon Brito

Tinnitus is a condition characterized by a continuous buzzing or ringing in the ears. In this article, I will point out some natural, Ayurvedic recipes as well as some homeopathic remedies that might be helpful to alleviate your tinnitus. I will also share some important information regarding food intolerances that could be responsible for this physical condition. I will explain the basics of the fifth chakra and give you some hints as to the possible emotional cause of tinnitus and ear problems, in order to enable you to address this problem from a holistic perspective. Finally, I will give you some music therapy advice on this matter.

Ayurvedic remedies and recipes.

One simple Ayurvedic cure for earache in general is to put three drops of garlic oil into the ear. This is not some kind of commercial garlic oil that you buy in the supermarket for cooking purposes. This garlic oil is to be prepared naturally by crushing two cloves of garlic and adding them to one tablespoonful of sesame oil (or pure olive oil). Boil the mixture. After a while, you may apply the warm oil into the ear, with a clean dropper.

In Ayurveda, a general recommendation for tinnitus is to place two drops of pure almond oil in each ear, with a clean dropper, once a week. Dr.Vasant Lad advises more specifically to put three drops of clove oil into the ear. The clove oil recipe is similar to the garlic oil recipe: just boil five whole cloves in one tablespoonful of sesame oil and leave the cloves in the oil. After a while, the warm oil can be applied, with a clean dropper.

Homeopathic remedies

Homeopathy also provides specific remedies that -taken three times daily for up to two weeks- can help to alleviate the symptoms of tinnitus. Dr. Andrew Lockie specifically recommends the following remedies:

*Kali Iod. 6c for longstanding ringing in the ears, with no additional symptoms.
*China Sulph. 6c for singing, buzzing, or hissing in ears.
*Carbon Sulph. 6c for tingling, roaring, blocked feelings in ears.
*Salicylic ac. 6c for roaring in ears, accompanied by giddiness.

Food intolerances

Food intolerances and allergies cause diverse symptoms. Tinnitus might be one of them. Having a good food sensitivity test is wise to clearly determine the offenders to your personal metabolism.

Dr. Donald Lepore, a pioneer in nutritional healing, discovered that tinnitus in the left ear is usually caused by an intolerance to rice or some specific ingredients in the same nutritional group (which includes cinnamon, blueberries, grapes, strawberry, watermelon, wine, or pumpkin). He also discovered that this intolerance can be corrected with the mineral Manganese, vitamin B-6 and the amino acid Arginine. The herb Yucca is also good for these purposes, since it is an excellent source of Manganese.

By contrast, Dr. Lepore’s research demonstrated that tinnitus in the right ear is usually caused by an intolerance to wheat. This includes of course wheat bread (or any bread or pancake that has wheat in it), pasta, and the wheat flour that is used for cooking. So people who experience tinnitus in the right ear would be wise to refrain from eating wheat products for a while, while they correct this intolerance with vitamin F (which can be found in olive oil, safflower oil, sunflower oil), the mineral Magnesium and the amino acid Histidine.

Sometimes these food intolerances are triggered by an external factor. For instance, extended sunburn at the beach can decrease the vitamin F in the body, which at that point becomes intolerant to wheat products. So in those cases it is wise to put some olive oil (or safflower, peanut or almond oil) on your skin, after you get sunburn. This is why, pursuant to Dr. Lepore’s research, the so called “swimmer’s ear” is not an infection from the water, but a wheat allergy caused by sunburn.

The fifth chakra

So far, we have addressed tinnitus and ear problems from the physical or nutritional healing point of view only. Let us now examine the bigger, holistic picture, for those cases that are rooted on emotional patterns.

From a holistic point of view, ear problems can be malfunctions associated with your fifth chakra. Disorders of the throat, voice and neck are other possible malfunctions of this chakra, as is tightness of the jaw.

The fifth chakra is the chakra that governs communication. It is related to your ability to express your deepest feelings with honesty and clarity, to yourself and others. It is also related to your ability to hear and speak the truth. It is also the chakra that allows creativity to flow in and through you.

Healing this chakra entails working with your inner child, the little voice inside yourself that asks you to pay some attention to your emotions. This is important because psychological studies have demonstrated that all negative emotional states hide an unfulfilled need of our inner child.

The possible emotional cause of ear problems

From a metaphysical standpoint, ear problems –in general- mean that there is something happening that you do not want to listen to. If there is pain, it is an indication that there is some anger involved. Thus, there might be an angry refusal to hear something (as in the typical case of children not willing to hear their parents’ arguing).

If this happens to be the case, work on dissolving your anger around that particular thing that you dislike listening to. Work on changing your perception about it. Focus instead on listening with love to something you like; to something harmonious, good and pleasurable.

Music therapy

Music is a powerful healing tool when it is used scientifically, as I have explained in my article about the healing power of music.

Generally speaking, harpsichord music is recommended as sound therapy for ear problems. Some music therapists -like Ted Andrews- also recommend symphonies, big band music and reggae as beneficial forms of music for the nervous system and sense organs of the body.

Music played in the keys of G and G sharp is also usually recommended, because those keys are generally helpful for conditions associated with the fifth chakra. A session with a skilled music therapist can go even deeper, in order to determine your own personal music scale and provide you with the sounds and frequencies that resonate with your personal fifth chakra more closely.
http://www.personal-growth-can-be-fun.com/tinnitus.html

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posted January 25, 2011 10:56 AM            

by Djehuty Ma'at-Ra

"Okay, what about the very health-conscious people who eat and live healthy and experience tinnitus, Djehuty? Well, I experienced that a few years ago! For awhile, I thought the U.S. government got in my head and did something to me. My ears were ringing for damn near a whole week. It was irritating as hell. At first, I thought the consistent ringing sound was coming from wires (telephone poles) or something so I shut all the windows but the ringing was still there. I then noticed the ringing was coming from the inside out - from my head. I didn't panic, but I was sorely concerned. I must admit I was going through a lot back then, things of a very profound spiritual nature, a metamorphosis if you will. This was back in November 2003.

One day while experiencing the acute ringing in my ears, I went to lunch for a salad and while standing in line ordering my food, I noticed no ringing in my ears! I was elated! But upon my return to the apartment, lo and behold, the ringing was back. I deduced that it was something around the apartment complex (like a gigantic invisible bubble or force field) that was causing the consistent ringing, but for what, I didn't know.

Now I must admit that I was a little paranoid back then because I was under government (F.B.I.) surveillance for my work in law and fighting the U.S. governmental (political and legal) system back then.

I had discovered sovereignty and the fraud of how government (state and federal) via politicians sold us into voluntary tyranny and servitude by tricking us into exchanging our constitutionally protected unalienable rights for statutory privileges which in all due honesty infuriated me. I learned this is why we have to apply for licenses, permits, and certification for nearly everything we want to do from traveling (converted into a regulated commercial activity called "driving" i.e. "driver's license), getting married (another regulated activity, i.e. "marriage license"), voting (i.e. "voter registration"), conducting business (i.e. "business license"), education (i.e. school/college "registration").

I even found out why females are having babies in hospitals despite hospitals being institutions for SICK people (and the last time I checked, pregnancy was not a disease but a natural phenomenon) - so that the newborns could be converted into "artificial entities" and thus rendered the property of the state and federal government (via the birth "certificate").

I learned this is how and why the State can break down your door and take "your" children. Thanks to the birth certificate (and the subsequent SSN: Social Security Number) the child has been converted into state and federal government property under the legal doctrine of Parens Patriae.

Okay, enough about all that sovereignty talk which can get you into a world of trouble if you don't fully understand it and have the necessary legal arguments to challenge these tyrants you unwisely put in positions (office) of power through your profound ignorance. Now personally, I mastered sovereignty and prevailed but came to realize how collectively stupid, dumb, cowardly, lazy, apathetic, irresponsible, immature, and financially broke we are, collectively, to ever attempt to return this nation back into a Republic from the despotic Democracy we now have. The U.S. Constitution guaranteed the people a republic form of government (U.S. Constitution 4:4), not a Democracy. But because most people don't own a Constitution nor read it, they don't know this legal and political fact.

Back to the gist of the article, I then consciously began experimenting. I could hear the ringing immediately outside the front door of the apartment, in the back of the apartment, and in the front of the apartment a few feet away from the front steps. I could take a step forward and would hear absolutely no ringing. Then I would take a step backwards and could hear ringing. Now I knew what was going, well, at least more than I did before. Something was most definitely serving as a shield around my environs, but who was responsible for it and was it good or bad?

I finally got the answer from my good friend, Brother Obe Bey Moore, a Moorish brother, a real life Oracle (like what was seen in "The Matrix" trilogy) named T. Ana Snaer, and singer Stevie Wonder.

The first day Stevie (who came with his brother) ever visited me, he and his brother (out of the blue) spoke to me about walking into an energy at the front of the apartment by the front steps. They both told me they knew they were coming into a spiritual presence. They didn't have a clue of what was going on with myself at the time. But I knew that the F.B.I. (who were surveillancing me) seeing all the celebrities who were coming to visit me, had to be a good thing for myself.

I knew Stevie was a heavy spiritual cat, especially being blind and all, because were you lack in one area, you gain in another and for Stevie I knew that was in the area of spirituality and intuition.

Stevie and his brother had no clue of what they had done for me personally. Then a week a later talking to Brother Obe about what had transpired (as the ringing had disappeared a few days after Stevie' visit), Obe told me that I was a highly spiritual cat and the higher realms (esp. the Sentinels of Light) were conveying a message to me.

I then met T. Ana and she told me about the significance of ringing in the ears (for spiritually conscious people) and what both right and left ears meant (when you heard ringing in them). She taught me the left ear meant the past and the right ear meant the future and that the ringing sound (noise) were messages (or reminders) about my past and/or my future based upon my present situation.

I learned from Doreen Virtue in 2005 that ringing in the ear was most definitely a sign that the higher realms (angelic) were attempting to download information (a message) for higher purpose.

And now today, I know what all of the past occurrences pertaining to my ears ringing meant and today I am free and doing me, my life purpose. I give thanks all the time to the higher realms (and the invisible entities now here on Earth) who are here to assist those of us whose mission involves accelerating the conscious on the planet."
http://www.dherbs.com/articles/ear-problems-101.html

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posted January 25, 2011 11:03 AM            

here we go,someone with no kundalin experience will rty to find sympotms that make sense in the realm of *normal*

then please read this quote:
Kundalites hear other sounds, particularly ear ringing, but sometimes the sound of wind, water, birds or music. The best explanation for the ringing ears that I have come across is by Itzak Bentov, author of "Stalking the wild pendulum." His book is a must-read for all awakened people. He sees many of the side effects of Kundalini, including the vibrations and ringing ears, to be a side effect of a standing wave set up by the resonance of the heartbeat, vibrating the bones of the inner ear. It may be heard in one ear or both.

from the site: http://www.kundalini-teacher.com/symptoms/voices.php

another site:
quote:
KUNDALINI SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS

by El Collie

Many individuals whose Kundalini has been unexpectedly unleashed DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING, and the prevailing social ignorance about this multidimensional transformative process makes it hard to find medical or alternative health practitioners or spiritual advisors who recognize the symptoms, particularly when they are strongly physical. Many people know that the risen Kundalini flings open gates to all sorts of mystical, paranormal and magical vistas but few realize it can also dramatically impact the body. A large percentage of our old Shared Transformation newsletter subscribers reported long bouts of strange illness as well as radical mental, emotional, interpersonal, psychic, spiritual and lifestyle changes. Over and again we hear stories of frustrating, sometimes desperate visits to doctors, healers, counselors, etc. who neither understood nor were able to help with the myriad pains and problems catalyzed by raging Kundalini.
http://www.elcollie.com/st/symptoms.html

@mochai

posted January 25, 2011 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by lucie:
@ glaucius

here we go,someone with no kundalin experience will rty to find sympotms that make sense in the realm of *normal*

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shrugs

I don't what you meant by that comment.

I actually posted both sides of the ringing in the ears matter -=
the physical view and the metaphysical view

I consider both physical and metaphysical views of things

That's reflected by my T-Square of Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of
my Saturn in Gemini R in 9th and Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd

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posted January 25, 2011 11:37 AM            

I hear bizarre frequencies that are not in a song but go along with a song frequently in either ear, as well as hearing frequencies in running water etc.

Lucie,
Thanks. I get visions too, but my brain has been scattered and/or paranoid. I had two shamanic dismemberments last year so I'm just lucky I'm not schizophrenic. I know there are things out there looking out for me.

posted January 25, 2011 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by mochai:
When I get in the hypnagogic state before sleep, I sometimes hear voices, but they usually sound demonic and want me to convert to satanism so I just ignore it.

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shrugs

that could be a metaphysical experience

but it also seems like that could be sleep paralysis

I am also no stranger to ringing in the ears,and I was not diagnosed as having any tinnitus.
However,I was diagnosed as having a cerebellar-vestibular dysfunction (inner ear problems) by Dr. Harold N. Levinson who believes that cerebellar-vestibular dysfunction is root of neurodivergent conditions.
I have a form of auditory dyslexia which used to include auditory reversals/scrambling (I turned around stuff when listening to speech) and overall auditory discrimination/recognition, and I had auditory therapy (was trained to listen better,brain rewiring. Auditory input speech lags (time delay between listening to speech and understanding speech) are part of my auditory irregularities. I tend to have auditory overload (too much information to my ears for my brain to process). Memory for what is being spoken is also a problem, and that's also connected to auditory-sequential processing difficulties.
I have very sensitive hearing.
I have above average hearing acuity. I was even asked if I have to wear ear plugs while sleeping after taking a hearing test because they told me that I hear very well.

I tend to focus on my left ear when processing speech. Left ear is connected to the right hemisphere of the brain. Therefore, I tend to process speech with my right hemisphere.

Here is a post that I wrote.

Fine Line Between Neurological Disorders,Neurodivergence and Mystical Perceptions,Schizophrenia

I am interested in the fine line between neurological disorders and mystical perceptions. It's found that temporal lobe seizures could lead to mystical experiences. Scientists say that could be a mystical part of the brain. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6664802

I am a believer that mystical experiences do exist. I also believe that they can be in synchronicity with temporal lobe seizures.

I think that there can be fine line between synchronicity and cause/effect when it comes to physiological activity and perceptual experiences.

Some scientists dismiss out of body experiences because they find that brain activity can be monitored during out of body experiences. Out of body experiences can be in synchronicity with brain activity. Who is to say that people aren't coming out of their bodies? What if there is like some type of energy cord that connects their minds to their bodies?
It could also be that a person focuses their mind's eye at different focal points and be so vivid in their visual thinking that it can seem like they are having out of body experiences. I know that I am such a visual thinker, I visualize everything while I am doing it like I am seeing myself in the mirror. It could be my focusing my minds eye on myself. Whenever I focus my eyes on a side of an object, my mind's eye seems to automatically focus on other sides of the object. When I give people massages,I tend to visualize the muscle I am massaging. When I go to a dentist, even though my eyes are closed, I would visualize the instrument in my mouth and the actions that it's doing at the time as well as where its at the time, even visualizing stuff the inside of my mouth,blood,nerves,etc. That's how visual that I am in my thinking. It's just automatic. For a long time,I couldn't understand why books were written about advising how to visualize and imagine things. I thought everybody could visualize and imagine things easily. I thought everybody thinks in pictures like I do. Well...I turned out to be wrong.

I do wonder if the more visual a person is in his/her thought processes, the more likely he/she could experience out of body experiences.

I also wonder if the more visual a person is in his/her thought processes, the more likely he/she could be disoriented and confused.

Ronald D. Davis talks about how disorientation/confusion can lead to distorted perceptual experiences that neurodivergents have. He believes that the highly visual,picture thinking of neurodivergents makes them use their disorientation to automatically distort their peceptions but also can be used to see things from other perspectives. He believes those things are strongly connected to each other. They are highly imaginative. They could actually have an overactive imagination that leads to the perceptual distortions.
http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album03&
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This could even apply to people with schizophrenia. Disorientation/confusion is commonly viewed as a symptom of schizophrenia. Schizophrenics have distorted perceptions. Schizophrenics are highly imaginative too. Their schizophrenia can be connected to having an overactive imagination leading to perceptual distortions.

Antipsychotics seemed to be used to harness the imagination of schizophrenics. Maybe the antipsychotics are actually be used to harness their visual thinking.

People that believe in the Indigo,Crystal concept believe that psychiatric medications suppresses the psychic,mystical gifts of Indigoes,Crystals. Maybe the psychiatric medications are harnessing their right hemisphere strengths that include being highly imaginative,visual,nonlinear thought processes.

Maybe psychiatric medications..especially antipsychotics can make right-brained types of people be more left-brained. The psychiatric medications lead to schizophrenics to be more organized and linear in their thinking.

lower doses of antipsychotics could actually be used to make right-brained people in general to be more organized and linear in their thought processes.
This can be an ethical problem.....especially if many children are having problems in school because they have strong right hemisphere processes that make it hard for them to learn left hemisphere type ways of teachings as in auditory sequential teaching methods including lecturing. If they are daydreaming a lot in school,and that interferes with their school work, that could be a problem too. What if they are actually doing a lot creativity,art,and other things associated with strong right hemisphere activity? How would the medication impact those activities? That is something to consider. Not everybody is cut out for academics. We could forcing naturally right-brained children to be left-brained. Why not incorporate Montessori,Waldorf teaching methods in education institutions including preschool,elementary,jr high,high school,and college? Teaching should reach all learning styles.

Ronald D. Davis, talks about focusing mind's eye....He talks about it from his experience as a neurodivergent...He talks about the shifting of the mind's eye and move it to optimum viewpoint for real-world perception can help with disorientation of neurodivergents.......who knows....maybe that could help with schizophrenic's symptoms too
http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album03&id=Gift_O f_Dyslexia_018_gif
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Disorientation/confusion also are symptoms of cerebellar-vestibular dysfunction which Dr. Harold N. Levinson believes is root of neurodivergent conditions.
http://astynaz.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=al bum03&id=Smart_But_Feeling_Dumb_Dyslexia_018_gif

Dr. Harold N. Levinson and Ronald D. Davis seemed to agree on some things about neurodivergent conditions. They both believe that neurodivergent conditions have highly significant overlapping symptoms and are co-morbid. That's why Dr Levinson refers to the whole neurodivergence as Dyslexic Syndrome, and Ronald D. Davis believes that root of neurodivergent conditions is Dyslexia which he views as a perceptual talent. That's why his first book was called GIFT OF DYSLEXIA.
They both believe that the neurodivergent conditions and disorientation/confusion are strongly connected. The only difference is that Dr. Levinson believes that it stems from cerebellar vestibular dysfunction,and should be treated with anti-motion sickness medication. Ronald D. Davis believes that it stems from being a highly visual,picture thinker, and that it can be resolved with mind's eye focus therapy.

I believe that cerebellar-vestibular dysfunction can be in synchronicity with neurodivergent conditions and not just cause and effect. It could be one of those " what came first....the chicken or the egg" I believe that it's possible that the neurodivergent person can be ultrasensitive to sensory input to the point that the cerebellar vestibular system is overwhelmed which results in disorientation/confusion. Therefore, cerebellar vestibular problems could actually be the symptoms of hypersensitivity. I am just coming at it from a neurodivergent perspective.

Things like Omega 3 fatty acids not only found to decrease the symptoms of neurodivergents, but also decrease hypersensitivity too. Neurodivergents tend to be hypersensitive any way. Certain vitamins and minerals help with cerebellar vestibular functioning too,and they also can decrease hypersensitivity...especially Vitamin B complex which is known as the stress vitamin. Motion sickness medications are used to treat cerebellar vestibular dysfunction. They could actually decrease hypersensitivity. Motion sickness could stem from hypersensitivity to movements.

In psychology text books, I have read that schizophrenics can be hypersensitive and so they can retreat inside themselves for protection. However, this also be said for people with autism.

Studies show that Omega 3 fatty acids can help with schizophrenia,bipolar too. Hypersensitivity is very common in people with those psychiatric disorders. Also Vitamin B6 and zinc deficiencies can lead to schizophrenia and bipolar issues. Pyroluria is a condition that pulls Vitamin B6 and zinc out of the system which can lead to schizophrenic,bipolar symptoms.

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posted January 25, 2011 12:09 PM            

@mochai

i am sorry to hear that you have to deal with negative entities,i have heared this story from others and i have to say,i am so blessed that i didnt have this sort of negativity around me in my extreme phase.would have made me extra nuts i think...i found the bodysymptoms the most challenging,my visions were full of nature and lovely.maybe it would help you to build a shiel around your body around your home.dont know if you are familiar with lisa renee,she is so awesome,take a lookk for yourself she has lots of helpful material how to shield yourself from negativity,just watched it yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5soLfw9yFRA

posted January 25, 2011 12:11 PM            

Websites and Links

Part One - The Connection between Ultra-sensitivity and LD/ADD

By Elizabeth Bogod

Do you sometimes feel that you unusually overreact to everyday situations? For instance, do you find yourself easily frustrated, moved to tears, overwhelmed while others in the same situation seem to be unaffected? Do you think of yourself as a sensitive person? Well, you may have good reason to think so. There is some evidence to back up the fact that people with learning disabilities and/or Attention Deficit Disorder are typically more prone to sensitivity and, for sure, the topic of oversensitivity comes up frequently In IADA support groups.

Being ultra-sensitive is not necessarily a bad thing. Most of us like to think of ourselves as being caring, thoughtful, sensitive folk and LD/ADD hyper-sensitivity may even be a strength, but I will talk about this in a later newsletter.

To start, I want to clarify exactly what is meant by the term “Highly Sensitive Person”. The term “highly sensitive person” was first introduced into pop psychology by Dr. Elaine Aron, author of ““The Highly Sensitive Person - How to Thrive When the World Overwhelms You”. Dr. Aron describing persons with this characteristic as having an extremely sensitive nervous system. In other words, she contends highly sensitive people are biologically more sensitive to external stimuli such as glaring lights, strong odors, and clutter, not just emotional stimuli (Aron, 1999). Most of us only think of the academic difficulties associated with LD and ADD, but if Dr. Aron’s theory holds good, then ultra-sensitivity will likely affect every aspect of our lives including all aspects of daily living, family, and work and school.

It is important to note that being highly sensitive does not mean you have a disorder. It is rather a characteristic or personality trait. Unfortunately, no research exists to link this particular theory to LD or ADD. However, Dr. Jean Ayres, Ph.D., with her concept of sensory integration, does present significant evidence of a link between ultra-sensitivity and LD/ADD (Sensory Integration International: FAQ). This theory describes dysfunction in processing information through the senses (touch, movement, smell, taste, vision, and hearing). Some signs of this sensory integration dysfunction include:

Oversensitivity to touch movement, sights, or sounds

Distractibility
Hypo or Hyperactivity
Complaints about how clothes feel - especially tags, socks, and shoes
Difficulty making transitions from one situation to another
Inability to unwind or calm self
Impulsivity
Delays in speech, language, or motor skills
Delays in academic achievement
Frequent Mood Changes

Does any of the above sound familiar to you? Research indicates that up to 70% of children with learning problems experience characteristics of this sort (Sensory Integration International: FAQ). So it is conceivable that LD/ADD adults are more neurologically susceptible to being highly sensitive individuals.

So what does this research mean for you? It means that you can take comfort in knowing that high sensitivity is NOT a personality flaw. It means that it may help you come to terms accuse you of being "too sensitive", "overly emotional", "weak", or "thin-skinned". Comments like these may make you feel bad about yourself or shamed into change but knowing the reasons for the source of your hyper-sensitivity - that it is the result of the way your central nervous system copes with stimuli - may help you to cope with people who criticize you because they do not understand your sensitivities.

More importantly, though, you are beginning to understand a new side of your LD/ADD. In the next News Letter, you will find out about the gifts of being highly sensitive and more…!

Do you have any thoughts or experiences to share on the topic of ultra-sensitivity and LD/ADD? Send your comments to our mailing address or email us at iada-victoria@shaw.ca

Resources

Aron, Elaine. The Highly Sensitive Person: How To Thrive When The World Overwhelms You . Broadway Books, 1999.

Sensory Integration International, “Frequently Asked Questions”. Available at: http://www.sensoryint.com/faq.html

Part Two - The Affects of Ultra-sensitivity on Our Lives

by Liz Bogod

The previous newsletter discussed the connection between ultra-sensitivity and LD/ADD. We now explore this connection further and take a deeper look at the affects of ultra-sensitivity on our lives.

Having LD/ADD may mean you are more sensitive than the average individual. In fact, many definitions of LD and ADD include “emotional instability” as a defining characteristic. Throughout history, gifted people such as artists, writers and musicians have demonstrated ultra-sensitive characteristics. Given the fact that so many people with LD and/or ADD are, in fact, creatively and intellectually gifted, it follows that they, too, are likely to be highly sensitive individuals.

Dabrowski, a psychiatrist who specializes in giftedness, proposes five areas of extreme sensitivity in gifted individuals which he terms as “over-excitabilities”. You may recognize some of the following areas in yourself:

Psychomotor - Need for extreme physical activity, movement, and sports activity

Hyperactivity, restlessness; inability to quell non-stop inner thought processes (often cause of sleeping problems); highly pronounced gesturing, fast talking

Sensual - Heightened sensory awareness

Over-reaction to sensory input (bad smells, bright lights, loud noises, etc); heightened tactile sensitivity (e.g. to textured fabrics); finds some sensory input intolerable and may need to leave location of stimuli

Imaginational - Thinks and lives in fantasy worlds

The poets, the fantasizers, the “space cadets” of this world; uses metaphorical speech; day dreams; remembers and reacts strongly to night dreams

Intellectual - A heightened response to intellectual questions and problems

Intense focus on particular topic, difficulty diverting away from topic (which may interfere with development of social relationships); often a highly ethical, moral topic requiring sustained analytical thinking abilities; difficulty letting go of the world’s problems without continual questioning

Emotional - Heightened emotional reactions and attachments to people

Emotions experienced in extremes; need to develop strong emotional attachments; self-examination; natural ability for empathy and compassion; often perceives others as not caring enough; susceptibility to depression and anxiety
http://www.ldpride.net/sensitivity.htm

3. Environmental and Emotional Sensitivity

Environmental Sensitivities

Adults are often overwhelmed by too much environmental stimuli (e.g. background noise, more than one person talking at a time, side conversations, reading and listening at the same time). Many people with LD and ADD have specific sensitivities to their environment such as certain fabrics they cannot wear, foods they cannot tolerate, etc.

Emotional Sensitivity

Many adults with learning disabilities see themselves as more emotionally sensitive than other people In its most extreme form, high levels of emotional sensitivity are both a blessing and a weakness. The positive features of this trait helps adults with learning disabilities build meaningful relationships with others. For example, they are often very intuitive and in-tune with both their own and other people's emotions. Sometimes they are actually able to perceive other's thoughts and feelings. However, this strength also serves as weakness due to its propensity to overwhelm the individuals. Emotional difficulties occur when they are unable to cope with the onslaught of emotions they are feeling. Highly sensitive adults with LD may be moved to tears more easily or feel their own and other people’s pain more deeply. For example, Thomas West, writer of "The Minds Eye", not only gives a thorough explanation of Winston Churchill's learning disability, but also describes his sensitive nature. West details Churchill's tendency to break into tears quite easily" (West, 1997) even out in the public eye. He notes one incident in which Churchill was moved to tears after witnessing the devastating effects of a bomb.

This description of Churchill also serves to highlight the strong sense of justice that many adults with learning disabilities possess. Unfortunately, this sense of justice often serves as a double edged sword. On one hand, it is refreshing to behold the passion of many of these individuals in their fight to overcome injustice. While on the other hand, this very passion, when it crosses the line into aggression, can cause social rejection and/or emotional overload. Often the individual may be unaware that their behavior has turned aggressive. They only wish make their point known and have others understand it. This type of over reaction is not a purposeful attempt to hurt anybody. It is more likely to be caused by a difficulty with monitoring their emotions and consequent behavior.
http://ldpride.net/emotions.htm

I am both a neurodivergent (Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,ADHDer)and ultrasensitive which seem strongly connected. Both neurodivergence and ultrasensitivity runs strong on both sides of my family. I also have both a strong outerplanet influence influence (mainly Neptune) and a strong transneptunian influence (mainly Ixion,Sedna,Quaoar,Varuna,Eris,and Haumea).

I also wonder if autistics, who are at the extreme end of neurodivergence, are also the most psychically sensitive. Maybe the nonverbal autistics are ones that psychic,metaphysical experiences but cannot verbalize what they experience. I have been wondering that a lot.

Autistics were once thought to have a type of schizophrenia too. Even now, antipsychotics are being used to treat autism.

If autistics talked about psychic,metaphysical experiences, then they would be more likely to be diagnosed as schizophrenic and be put on antipsychotics.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 25, 2011 12:27 PM            

Sleep paralysis is a condition that occurs in the state just before fully awakening from sleep. The condition is characterized by being unable to move or speak. It is often associated with a feeling that there is some sort of presence, a feeling which often arouses fear but is also accompanied by an inability to cry out. The paralysis may last only a few seconds. The experience may involve visual, auditory, or tactile hallucinations.

Sleep paralysis is a symptom of narcolepsy, it is also common in healthy people. Surveys from different countries show a estimated: 20 to 60 percent of the normal adult population has experienced sleep paralysis at least once. Around 5 percent of the population has experienced one or more of other disturbing symptoms associated with the disorder. The most common effects include visual hallucinations, such as shadows and light or a human or animal figure in the room, and auditory hallucinations, such as hearing voices or footsteps.

Sleep paralysis is thought to be due to mechanisms in the brain stem, particularly the vestibular, reticular, and oculomotor neurons, which prevent bodily movements, block sensory input and provide the forebrain with the internally generated activity that characterizes brain activity during REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep. This is thought to be normal part of dreaming and necessary to prevent the body from movements caused by dreams. Eyes however are not paralyzed by this system. Sleep paralysis is due to an ill-timed disconnection between the brain and the body.

Sleep paralysis occurs when the brain is awakened from a REM state into essentially a normal fully awake state, but with the bodily paralysis still occurring. This causes the person to be fully aware, but unable to move. If we were not in a state of paralysis while dreaming, we would attempt to act out our dreams.

The original definition of sleep paralysis was codified by Dr Johnson as “nightmare,” a term that evolved into our modern definition. Such sleep paralysis was widely considered to be the work of demons and more specifically incubi, who were thought to sit on the chests of sleepers. In Old English the name for these beings was mare hence comes the mare part in nightmare.

You can find references to sleep paralysis in the folklore of just about every culture. Folklore in Newfoundland, South Carolina and Georgia describe the negative figure of the Hag who leaves her physical body at night, and sits on the chest of her victim. The victim usually wakes with a feeling of terror, has difficulty breathing because of a perceived heavy invisible weight on his or her chest, and is unable to move i.e., experiences sleep paralysis. This nightmare experience is described as being “hag-ridden” in the Gullah lore. The “Old Hag” was a nightmare spirit in British and also North American folklore.

Many new age religions have the theory that sleep paralysis has more metaphysical explanations. Some people believe that when we sleep we are actually involved in ‘astral travel’ or we are having OBE (Out of Body Experiences). The basic premise here is that while we are asleep, our souls leave our bodies and travel to other realms or dimensions. While our soul is out of the body it is possible for something in waking life to bring the body to consciousness but without our soul there to man the ship.

Hallucinations, such as shadows and light or a human or animal figure in the room, and auditory hallucinations, such as hearing voices or footsteps and the feel of pressure on their chest making breathing difficult during sleep paralysis may explain tales of ghosts and aliens. The strong sense of a presence, usually harmful, that victims commonly feel during an attack. They also report unusual kinesthetic sensations, such as feelings of being dragged out of bed, vibrating, flying or falling.

Many dream therapists believe that sleep paralysis is ideal for lucid dreams because it puts you in a subconscious focus without using visualizations. This is because it lowers your dominant brain wave from your usual alpha range (around 12 to 30 Hz) to a theta range (around 3 to 7 Hz). This puts you in a subconscious focus which is exactly what you need to have lots and lots of lucid dreams and OBEs.

Sleep paralysis is a common sleep disorder, yet often one of the most frightening. Sleep paralysis occurs when we wake up mentally-only to discover that our bodies are still sleeping and we can’t move. To make matters even more confusing, our awakening from REM sleep typically is only partial. This means we tend to have long and confusing dreams about being paralyzed, and, because we feel vulnerable, we often dream of being attacked. But we can’t move, nor can we cry out for help.

Sleep paralysis is harmless, it can be terrifying, especially if you don’t know what’s happening to you. Someone experiencing an episode may have hallucinations, or have the feeling that someone is in the room or sitting on his/her chest. Hearing and smell can also be involved, as can the feeling of floating or flying.

Irregular sleep habits, fatigue and sleep deprivation are all considered to be predisposing factors to sleep paralysis; this may be because such events disrupt the sleep-wake cycle, which can then cause sleep-onset REM periods. In other words, you experience just a piece of REM sleep.

Sleep paralysis is five times more likely to happen to people sleeping on their backs, facing up. Drugs such as prozac have been found effective in controlling sleep paralysis attacks. Although most sleep paralysis episodes do not include the visual apparition, more than enough do include it to account for all reported nocturnal assaults. Sleep paralysis is well understood, well documented, and is an accepted psychological phenomenon among almost all medical professionals.

Stopping sleep paralysis is about avoiding things that are likely to affect your sleep pattern. Try avoiding smoking; drinking alcohol or taking in caffeine just before you sleep. Do sleep in a room that is able to keep light and sound out. These are just a few things that you can do to alleviate the condition. If you are interested in stopping sleep paralysis then you must combine these methods and techniques into a comprehensive program and routine that you can follow. http://yourdreaminterpretations.com/2009/12/29/sleep-paralysis-medical-spiritual/

I am definitely not a stranger to this phenomena,and I even experienced this just a few days ago. Maybe it's sleep paralysis or maybe it's metaphysical experiences. Maybe it's both. Sleep paralysis and metaphysical experiences could be in synchronicity with each other.

I believe that physical experiences and metaphysical experiences can be strongly connected to each other through synchronicity.

It doesn't have to be cause and effect.

I am also a frequent lucid dreamer. I even had lucid dreams 2 nights ago. I fly in over 90 percent of my lucid dreams, and I flew in my most recent lucid dream too.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 25, 2011 01:37 PM            

My Personal planet,angle aspects to the Outer Planets and Nodes

Outer Planets : Uranus,Neptune

conjunction,opposition,square,trine - 5'00
sextile - 3'00
quincunx,semisextile,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quintile,biquintile - 1'00
for both ecliptic longitude and Right Ascension (RA) which is equatorial longitude
parallel,contraparallel - 1'00

geocentric nodes:
conjunction,opposition,trine,square - 2'00
sextile - 1'30

heliocentric nodes:
conjunction,opposition,trine,square,sextile - 2'00

strong theme that shouldn't be ignored:
Sun,Moon,Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli in conjunction,opposition,square,trine aspecting an outerplanet within 3 degrees
Sun,Moon,Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli in conjunction,opposition,square,trine aspecting an outerplanet node within 1 degree
Sun,Moon,Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli in parallel,contraparallel an outerplanet within 30 minutes of arc

Moon
square Neptune - 1'23 - strong theme that shouldn't be ignored

Ascendant/Descendant
square Heliocentric Uranus Nodes - '25

Midheaven/Imum Coeli
oppose/conjunct Geocentric South Uranus Node - '50 - strong theme that shouldn't be ignored
trine/sextile Uranus - 4'04
sextile/trine Heliocentric Neptune Nodes - '14 - strong theme that shouldn't be ignored

Mercury
parallel Neptune - '33

Venus
parallel Neptune - '46

Mars
square Neptune - 1'01 in RA
sesquiquadrate Uranus - '18 in RA

My Personal planet,angle aspects to Transneptunian Dwarf Planets,Dwarf Planet Candidates and Nodes

Transneptunian Dwarf Planets:Pluto,Eris, Makemake, Haumea
Transneptunian Dwarf Planet Candidates: Sedna, Orcus, Quaoar, Varuna, Ixion
(listed largest to smallest)

conjunction,opposition,trine,square - 3'00
sextile - 2'00
quincunx,semisextile,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quintile ,biquintile - 1'00
for both ecliptic longitude and Right Ascension (RA) which is equatorial longitude
parallel,contraparallel - '30

geocentric nodes:
conjunction,opposition,trine,square - 1'30
sextile - 1'00

heliocentric nodes:
conjunction,opposition,trine,square,sextile - 1'30

Strong theme that shouldn't be ignored:
Sun,Moon,Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli in conjunction,opposition,square,trine aspecting a transneptunian within 1 degree
Sun,Moon,Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli in conjunction,opposition,square,trine aspecting a transneptunian node within 30 minutes of arc
Sun,Moon,Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli in parallel,contraparallel a transneptunian within 15 minutes of arc

Sun conjunct Ixion - '05 - strong theme that shouldn't be ignored
Sun conjunct Quaoar - 2'58 (1'46 in RA)
Sun conjunct Geocentric South Eris Node - '09 - strong theme that shouldn't be ignored
Sun oppose Geocentric North Eris Node - '10 - strong theme that shouldn't be ignored
Sun oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Eris Nodes - '10 - strong theme that shouldn't be ignored
Sun oppose Sedna - 0'44 in RA - strong theme that shouldn't be ignored
Sun quincunx Varuna - '05 in RA
Sun contraparallel Orcus - '01 in Declinations - strong theme that shouldn't be ignored

Moon trine Quaoar - '50 - strong theme that shouldn't be ignored
Moon trine Ixion - 2'15
Moon square Varuna - '10 - strong theme that shouldn't be ignored
Moon sextile Sedna - 1'05 (0'39 in RA)
Moon semisquare Eris - '08 in RA

Ascendant/Descendant
conjunct/oppose Haumea - 2'11

Midheaven/Imum Coeli
conjunct Geocentric North Ixion Node - '31
conjunct Heliocentric Ixion Nodes - '31
square Haumea - '03 - strong theme that shouldn't be ignored
sextile/trine Eris - 1'01
trine/sextile Pluto - 2'31 in RA
biquintile Ixion - '10

Mercury square Makemake - 2'01
Mercury sextile Geocentric South Pluto Node - '03
Mercury biquintile Eris - '06

Venus trine Orcus - '41
Venus trine Geocentric North Pluto Node - '31
Venus sextile Haumea - '52 in RA
Venus quincunx Eris - '10 in RA

Mars oppose Makemake - 1'00 in RA
Mars trine Quaoar - 2'16 in RA
Mars biquintile Orcus - '10 in RA.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 25, 2011 02:21 PM            

The description below fits me almost exactly except I wasn't diagnosed with ADD/HD...I was diagnosed with dyscalclia,but it's entirely possible given how my attention span varies,:-) I have Jupiter Rx in Taurus and Sun in Scorpio and my aura is Red,Lavender and Yellow with some shifts in color, of course.

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Originally posted by Glaucus:
The Birth Charts of Indigo Children
By Mary English DSH

AS A HOMEOPATH AND ASTROLOGER I see a lot of Indigo Children that are brought to me, not because they are Indigo, but because of physical or behavioural problems. Since most of the parents I meet have not heard of Indigo Children I will describe the generally accepted principles for identifying Indigos, as well as how to recognize and identify them from their Birth charts.

The first Indigo that I met in my practice, was a nine-year-old boy who came to see me in 2002. His Mum brought him along, partly because she was having difficulty with the various labels her child had been given, but also because he was suffering from sleeplessness, was argumentative, aggressive and 'angry with the world'. On further questioning it transpired that a younger brother had been born blind with part of his brain missing. He also had terrible acid reflux and was awake for 20 hours in every 24. Sadly, this little boy didn't live long and eventually died. My patient, though, had shown a natural affinity for his suffering and used to touch his head before communicating with his brother, even though no-one had told him to do this. His mother said her nine-year old had had an 'understanding' of his brother’s needs.

Without revealing too many details of this boy’s case, I prescribed a remedy and arranged to see him again in a month’s time. I met the boy’s mother a while later at the school and she told me how, a few days after taking the remedy, he had been at his grandmother’s and had fallen asleep on the sofa. Because he was so quiet and seemed so ‘dead to the world’, Nan had got worried that he'd actually died... Apparently, he had never done anything like this before, but I knew this meant the remedy was starting to heal him.

As this boy had been brought to me for Homeopathic treatment, I didn't automatically draw up his Birthchart, but after his second follow-up appointment something made me ask his birth-time and I looked at his chart. During this particular month, I visited a Healing Fair in Bath where I live and was drawn to buy a book called The Indigo Children by Lee Carroll and Jan Tober. The book came home with me, and stayed there. I now don't lend it out, I advise people to buy their own copy!

The book described so accurately this particular boy and his problems, that I then bought The Care and Feeding of Indigo Children by Doreen Virtue, so I could offer his Mum some hope and explain that this boy isn't a challenge, the system looking after him is... Then I compared his chart to others in my collection and noticed a striking similarity with certain children's charts I had treated recently and some I had treated quite a few years before. Then another boy from the first boy's class was brought to me and his chart had the same configuration, as did my son's, who is also in the same class. In fact, over ten children in this grade all had similar charts. This set me on a mission that still intrigues me to this day.

Now things were beginning to make some sense, and, not being an Indigo myself, I found it exciting to be able to offer some hope to ADD and ADHD children, as well as those with the characteristics that Doreen Virtue had identified as being:

* Strong-willed
* Born in 1978 or later
* Headstrong
* Creative, with an artistic flair for music, jewellery making, poetry etc.
* Prone to addictions
* An 'old soul', as if they're 13 going on 43
* Intuitive or psychic, possibly with a history of seeing angels or deceased people
* An isolationist, either through aggressive acting-out, or through fragile introversion
* Independent and proud, even if they're constantly asking for money
* Possesses a deep desire to help the world in a big way
* Wavers between low self-esteem and grandiosity
* Bores easily
* Has probably been diagnosed as having ADD or ADHD
* Prone to insomnia, restless sleep, nightmares, or difficulty/fear of falling asleep
* Has a history of depression, or even suicidal thoughts or attempts
* Looks for real, deep and lasting friendships
* Easily bonds with plants or animals

I then contacted Sarah Wood, the President of The Indigo Network* to see if this was just a local phenomena or whether it was worldwide? Sarah advised me to post my questions on her website so that people could reply to me. They have been sending me their Birth-data for over a year now and I was not surprised to see that every person who knew they were an Indigo, had this same planetary shape to their chart.

So what planetary patterns were happening while these Indigos were being born?

I took my computer on a lengthy journey from 1977-1998 and discovered the following.

In September 1977 the major planets had moved into the following signs:

First indigo date

* Nep-13 degrees Sag,
* Uranus-9 degrees Scorpio
* Pluto-14 degrees Libra
* Sun-21 degrees Virgo
* Saturn-24 degrees Leo
* Jupiter-3 degrees Cancer

As you will notice, all the signs follow each other. This was when the first Indigos began to be born. These are the early Indigos and the heavy planets are close, but in separate signs. By 1981 the first conjunction occurs, with Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter in Libra. By 1983 Jupiter has caught up with Uranus in Sagittarius. In 1989 Uranus, Saturn and Neptune are all in the signs of Capricorn.

Now - what if you were born at this time and all your personal planets were in these same signs? What would make you different (or the same) as others?

First of all, you would be very focused in certain areas. You'd know how to operate the Playstation, but you might have problems tying your shoelaces or remembering to wipe your feet... Your chart shape would be called a 'Bundle', or a 'Bowl', and you would have interests that would definitely need to be expressed otherwise problems would occur.

In my practice I have noticed that Indigo Children have birth charts that are rather unique. All their planets are located on one side of the chart, i.e. six houses or less (out of twelve) are occupied and six (or more) are empty, meaning that their energies are strong in certain areas, and non-existent in others.

In 'The Bowl' shape, all the planets are concentrated within one half of the chart. Reflecting the shape of this pattern, 'Bowl' types are said to be immensely self-contained and resourceful, but they also tend to be 'one-sided', so their life's challenge is to integrate the empty half of the chart.

The 'Bundle' shape is rare, and reflects a narrowness of vision and experience. 'Bundle' types tend to channel their energies into issues related to the occupied section at the expense of the rest of their chart. This shape describes the specialist in his or her field, or, negatively, the obsessive personality. And because a 'Bundle' chart has no oppositions, the person whose chart it is, will have more difficulty seeing things from others’ perspectives, unless those 'other's’ are fellow Indigos.

A 'Bundle', or 'Cluster',' is not an especially rare shape; 30% of my clients have this configuration. What is rare, however, is having Neptune and Uranus conjunct (in the same sign). This only ever happens in the sign of Capricorn and last happened in 1827 (before that in 1657) and will next occur in 2157.

From 1978-1989 the bundle of planets stayed together, various outer planets moved a little and at certain times of each year, personal planets clustered with the biggies.

So, what does a cluster feel like? What does it look like from the outside? And what do cluster charts have that Splays or Grand Trines do not?

From my observations, clusters have an intensity as well as a complete and natural understanding of their peer group and their generation. We all know what it feels like to be out on a limb and not recognised by others. The child born at the wrong time, in the wrong place, and the wrong era really. Well, Indigos don't suffer that. They were born in exactly the right year/month/day location. We all choose our parents in the planning stage before we were born (see Judy Hall's Hands Across Time), and maybe Indigos are a little more astute at doing this.

Indigos understand fashion, latest gadgets, popular music, popular TV soaps/programmes. They know what is 'cool' and what is not. Why? Because their outer planets are all together with their personal planets. They're not usually interested in history or old out-dated ideas. (God forbid that they should like folk music!)

Now let’s look at some charts of Indigos that I have treated. To accurately display the full implications of an Indigo Chart, you need to use Equal-House System.

Male, Born Oct 26, 1993, 3.15am, Bath, UK.

Here we have the typical one-sided chart. All the planets are below the horizon, indicating someone who understands themselves well, but isn't so good at socialising and mixing with others. Take Chiron out of the picture for the minute, because for this analysis I won't be using him to determine if the child is Indigo. (however it's useful to keep Chiron in mind as the point of healing) All the planets are in five houses. Neptune and Uranus are conjunct in Capricorn, and there are no oppositions.

Because all the planets in an Indigo Chart are so near together, you have to look to see which planet is nearest the Sun, as this will be the one that has the most influence. In this chart, Jupiter is on one side of the Sun and Mars is on the other, making a child who is expansive on one hand, and a little fearless/aggressive on the other... but he has Moon in Pisces, which makes him emotional, empathetic and sensitive. Plus, he's a Scorpio, so don't try telling him what to do. What a combination! This child also has two planets in the 4th house, making him unsettled at home and dreamy. Because Mars is so near the Sun this child would do best at physical, active, sporty pursuits, rather than at totally desk-bound activities. And, with Venus on the Ascendant, he has charm!

Female, 10th December 1985, 5.30pm , Dublin, Ireland.

Next we have the chart of a young lady who contacted me via the Indigo website. As you can see she, too, is very clustered with all her planets squashed into three houses with only Jupiter on his own.

Female, 5th Feb 1997 , 8.02 pm, London

This child was brought to me with eczema and her mother had a whole host of problems when we started treatment. As you can see , she has seven planets in the 5th house, Mars on the Ascendant, Saturn in the 7th and Pluto in the 3rd. This young lady needed to be guided, not instructed. In fact, even when she was in nursery school, she was telling the other kids what to do!

Male, 23rd March 1998, 7.39am, Kent

This young lad was born on 23rd March, 1998 in Maidstone Kent at 7:39am. His mother told me: "Recently I went to see a spiritualist as I was fed up with school accusing him of having ADHD and suggesting Ritalin use. The lady said G was an Indigo child, looked after by my father his own angel who died 2 years ago." This boy has all his planets above the horizon, with Uranus conjunct Neptune and, again, Mars and Jupiter positioned either side of his Sun.

So, if you possess the twelve characteristics that Doreen Virtue lists and a Bundle or Cluster chart, then in my humble opinion, you are an Indigo.

Now, what makes living with/teaching /parenting an Indigo difficult is their concentration of energies in one place. So my advice is, provide them with an outlet for them. Look at Flower Essences or Homeopathy. Let them take exercise, eat well, play, mix with friends, write poetry, play music, create. To get the best from a child with a cluster chart shape, allow them autonomy. They're wiser than you anyway, so you might as well let them make some decisions themselves. Allow them to choose certain actions in their lives and to be guided by their own feelings. After all, none of these children that were brought to me ever suffered from a lack of self-esteem. On the contrary, it's generally been the other way around, with them being almost too confident and too self-assured.
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posted January 25, 2011 02:43 PM            

Kat

posted January 25, 2011 04:05 PM            

Mochai I quickly visited the indigo website...it's scary stuff...so scary that I am now nearly convinced in other entities. I feel liek soemthing is closing over the Earth at the moment like a giant leech, draining our energy, welll that's how I imagine it, ofcourse I could simply personalise it and say that I'm feeling run down....saturn is in Libra after all ....my most significant sign!

These starseeds don't sound too hot...they don't sound like the positive influence we would all associate with starseeds...

posted January 25, 2011 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by joyrjw:
Wow! Thank you for this...

The description below fits me almost exactly except I wasn't diagnosed with ADD/HD...I was diagnosed with dyscalclia,but it's entirely possible given how my attention span varies,:-) I have Jupiter Rx in Taurus and Sun in Scorpio and my aura is Red,Lavender and Yellow with some shifts in color, of course.

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Dyscalculia is one of the 6 main neurodivergent conditions (Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD,Autistic Spectrum,and Tourette Syndrome are the others) mentioned by Developmental Adult Neurodiversity Association (DANDA) included in diagram. http://www.danda.org.uk/media/General/Neuro-diversity%20diagram.pdf

In USA, Dyscalculia is considered a learning disability. I actually prefer the term, learning difference.
In UK, learning disability is a term reserved for only intellectual handicaps.
In USA, learning disability is a term reserved for people with learning differences and have at least average intelligence.

ADHD overlaps a bit with other neurodivergent conditions.
Dyslexia and Dyspraxia overlaps the most with ADHD.

Founder of DANDA, the late Mary Colley had Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD like myself.

Developmental Neurodiversity Association (DNA) is patterned after DANDA.

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No..I am not a Virgo.