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blonderiverkat
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posted January 25, 2011 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quinnie...if it's not positive, then I don't associate it with true 'starseeds'...my opinion anyway...true 'starseeds' are here to help raise the positive vibration of the planet..not lower it..it's low enough already!lol If it's not about love, honesty, kindness, compassion, and helping others to raise their positive vibrations, my bf, myself, and my children, will have no part of it...I realize there is good and bad in everything(Libra sun), but I don't compare myself with those with the lower vibrations...

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posted January 25, 2011 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lindaGreg:
Glaucus,

Where do you get so much information at finger tips? Are you a professional researcher in any specific field? Just curious


I have been reading a lot of stuff over the years.
A lot of it had to do with understanding myself and others like myself and advocating for myself and others.
After psychiatric misdiagnoses and overall mental health professionals not having a clue, I have problems trusting mental health professionals.

I can strongly relate to the Indigo,Crystal,Starseed,lightworker,Earth Angel stuff.

I definitely have become very interested in Doreen Virtue's stuff. I have 4 of her decks which I use regularly for insight. I have 9 of her books.

A lot of her stuff makes sense to me.
The only thing that I disagree with is the Indigo,Crystal generational stuff. I don't think that it applies to certain generations nor a whole mass of people in a certain generation. I believe that there have been Indigo,Crystal types in every generation.

It seems to be hereditary,genetic too. It's definitely that way in my family.

There is a lot of good information on the world wide web.

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posted January 25, 2011 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am very convinced that lightworkers are very strong in the transneptunian energies.

I finally admit that I am a lightworker. I just didn't care for any New Age labels. My mission on Earth as a lightworker is to help change the perceptions of how gifted,ultrasensitive,rightbrained,nonconformist types that don't fit the neurological norms of society (often referred to as dual exceptional/twice expectional) are viewed and to help make the world a better place for them. That includes pushing for education reform and psychiatric reform.

There was a reason that I made Metatron Cube Brain as the logo of Developmental Neurodiversity Association (DNA). Metatron Cube is said to be the archangel that helps the Indigo/Crystal Children. The non profit organization was made for only the developmental,genetic neurodivergents. It wasn't made for people whose neurodivergence connected to brain damage through toxins,vaccines,and other harmful things. I wrote a post about genetic neurodivergence and acquired neurodivergence including that they shouldn't be looped together and treated the same. That's why I purposely have DNA as an acronym. It suggests genetic.

I embrace the neurodivergent label as part of the civil/equal rights movement for different minds that aren't deficient. That's the Neurodiversity Movement. Being a neurodiversity advocate and starting a non profit neurodiversity organization are all part of my path as a lightworker.

I also believe that working with the 21st Century transneptunian objects in Astrology and coming up with a multidimensional 21st Century Astrology system is also part of my path as a lightworker. I truly believe that looking at 21st Century transneptunian oriented me through a 20th Century sense makes no sense and it misses out on a lot. That's how I feel when people view me through that system with my own very strong 21st Century transneptunian object influence. Studying the charts of developmental,genetic neurodivergents is part of my path as a lightworker.


The DNA facebook happens to be much stronger in the 21st Century Transneptunian objects than I thought.

I planned to start the non profit organization on June 3rd of 2010. The DNA facebook group was formed on the same date.

I intentionally picked that date
because of Sun conjunct/oppose Geocentric Uranus Nodes and Earth oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Uranus Nodes - A strong Sun-Earth-Uranus Node alignment. I wanted the non profit organization to have a strong connection to collective Uranian energy which would be great for internet,computers, unusual people,change, and reform.


Sun in 13'29 Gemini
conjunct Geocentric North Uranus Node in 14'01 Gemini
oppose Geocentric South Uranus Node in 14'06 Sagittarius
trine Geocentric South Neptune Node in 13'34 Aquarius

Earth in 13'29 Sagittarius
oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Uranus Nodes in 14'03 Gemini/Sagittarius


I was aware of the following 21st Century Astrology transneptunian object aspects:

Sedna in 21'59 Taurus
conjunct Mercury in 20'41 Taurus

Haumea in 15'35 Libra R
trine Sun in 13'29 Gemini

Varuna in 20'33 Cancer
conjunct Venus in 18'02 Cancer
sextile Mercury in 21'59 Taurus
sesquiquadrate Moon - '05

Ixion in 16'05 Sagittarius
oppose Sun in 13'29 Gemini

Quaoar in 20'43 Sagittarius
quincunx Mercury in 20'41 Cancer

Orcus in 0'04 Virgo
conjunct Mars in 28'25 Leo
sextile Midheaven in 28'02 Libra

I even chose 10 pm to get the following

Pluto in 4'38 Capricorn R
conjunct Ascendant in 5'25 Capricorn

I wanted to make the sure the non profit can be highly influential and be an agent for change.

In the Right Ascension chart,
DNA has the following

Haumea in 25'16 Libra
conjunct Midheaven in 26'02 Libra

which goes well with my
Haumea in 11'17 Virgo
square Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini

Eris in 25'25 Aries
oppose Midheaven in 26'02 Libra

which goes well with my
Eris in 12'15 Aries
sextile Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini


I didn't bother to look at Right Ascension when I formed DNA.


DNA is very strong in the 21st Century Transneptunian objects which I feel are very strong in the charts of the people that I formed the non profit organization for. That includes myself. I am very strong in the 21st Century objects. With all that transneptunian energy, DNA will indeed help raise consciousness and it will eventually become more metaphysically oriented as metaphysical subjects get more accepted.


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posted January 25, 2011 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Glaucus:
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The only thing that I disagree with is the Indigo,Crystal generational stuff. I don't think that it applies to certain generations nor a whole mass of people in a certain generation. I believe that there have been Indigo,Crystal types in every generation.

It seems to be hereditary,genetic too. It's definitely that way in my family.

There is a lot of good information on the world wide web.


Right on Glac! I know a minimum of 7 people very close to me born in the 50's and 60's whom it has either been proven that they are starseeds, or I strongly suspect are...one is a lightworker...one a Druid, his wife is Wiccan, another Christian(labels)...we all believe, live our lives, and treat others basically the same...alot of sites that I have come across say that the Indigos started coming in the 80's and 90's...that is when our children came in, but not us older ones...even JFK and RFK, I believe, were Starseeds/Indigos...maybe not as many of them as the 80's and 90's, but definitely here...
You are aware that I am a newbie to Astrology Glac, I'm sure...so in your expert opinion, what other asteroid and trans-neptunian objects do you feel indicate Starseed potential?
I was told that our higher-selves all had a master plan in reuniting in this lifetime, here on earth...it was implied by all of our very close aspects to the Galactic Center...I am trying to help the younger ones to figure out what their 'mission' here is...their true souls 'purpose'...
Many of us have very tight aspects to each others personal planets and such...even the ones not 'related' as far as this incarnation goes...there are definite 'soul' ties in Draconic...we are definitely here for some purpose...
btw...breaking up your posts like that...what a difference! I can read all of it, with no feeling of being overwhelmed! Thanks!

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posted January 25, 2011 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't read so much text.. I really can't.

What I was going to say is that in the hynogogic state you lower your shields and people who are clairaudient first start hearing voices at this point. I do have clairaudience, but it's either blocked or not that developed. It wasn't a night terror or anything. I've never had those. It was just a clairaudience experience. I've heard my higher self in the past and a soul that wanted to eventually incarnate through me so it's really nothing new.

As far as anti-psychotics, they actually shrink your brain with prolonged use and slow your thought process. That's not just the left or right side, the whole thing atrophies. Nobody fully knows how the brain works or how anti-depressants work in the brain. You can't exactly cut open a living human being and still see what's happening between the synapses etc. It's a trial and error process.

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posted January 25, 2011 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mochai...just what exactly is clairaudience? I know I can google it, but I like to hear personal experiences with some things...it makes it easier for me to understand...
I can read that much text when it is broken down into paragraphs...my bf is the same, but not as bad as me...alot of times I show him, or send him something, and say 'you read this, and explain it to me' lol

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posted January 25, 2011 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's alright. Clairvoyance is clear seeing (voyance) and clairaudience is clear hearing (audience).. so hearing spirit chatter or your higher self.

Holly, I just realized no one really answered your question at what we felt they were here for etc. I think most people incarnate to advance, but I would reckon there are a lot of people here, blue aura or not who are trying to help the planet, more so than in other ages. Seeing as things are happening as they are, I could see a lot of spiritually advanced people (blue aura types) incarnating at this time.

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posted January 25, 2011 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lucie...you can add me to FB...blonderiverkat@yahoo...no big deal..I have nothing to hide, and anyone here can add me if they wish...I like surrounding myself with positive people...those I can relate to...
The first time I vibrated lucie..wow...freaked me out! I also believe that my intense vertigo I get is a kundalini, as well as starseed/indigo trait...I have been paying close attention to it lately, and it is happening at the same time each month...this last bout ended with the full moon...crazy stuff...

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posted January 25, 2011 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why we are here is my number one question...that is the purpose of our studies...astrology, numerology, starseeds/indigos, ufo's, meditation, crystals, OBE's...the list goes on, everything we study pertians to spirituality, and that question of 'why'..When we find the answer, we will let you all know! lol
mochai...I have often thought that the voices I have heard were that of my 'higher self', which is our spirit guide as well? I have only heard the voices a few times, but they were pretty loud and clear...just as the 'banging' in my ear, and the 'knocking's' and gunshot...it's funny, my higher self is a male voice(I think I have seen him as well a few times?), and my bf has always heard a feminine voice...
Okay, Glac is trying to be good by incorporating Astrology into this...I am going to look at some aspects that may pertain to all of this kookiness, and post...

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posted January 25, 2011 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mochai:
I can't read so much text.. I really can't.

What I was going to say is that in the hynogogic state you lower your shields and people who are clairaudient first start hearing voices at this point. I do have clairaudience, but it's either blocked or not that developed. It wasn't a night terror or anything. I've never had those. It was just a clairaudience experience.



all of that fits in with sleep paralysis though


maybe the metaphysical experiences (not talking about hallucinations) do occur during sleep paralysis
there can be synchronicity

you said the following:
"I sometimes hear voices, but they usually sound demonic and want me to convert to satanism so I just ignore it."

Your talk about demonic entities could be viewed as night terrors

if they are not, it seems like you have some grounding issues and really need to protect yourself

I also wonder why you're attracting demonic entities

also sleep paralysis doesn't have to involve night terrors
it can involve pleasant experiences

A lot of physical stuff was often viewed as metaphysical stuff in the old times
now today, it's possible that a lot of metaphysical stuff is often viewed as physical stuff

There could be a synchronicity that links the physical and metaphysical stuff together


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posted January 25, 2011 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I said it was my higher self because it sounded just like me only without any tension in her voice. She then preceded to tell my my purpose in life and showed me some past lives including a fae past life that made me think I was going crazy more than hearing the voice. It happened right before I went into a visualization where my head got really heavy.

I know I have guides too, but I don't know what they sound like. I once had a vision of a native american woman who seemed to be acting as my guide during a soul retrieval (she retrieved a bunch of soul fragments). She showed up later in a vision while I was bathing. I'm thinking it's my guide because I kind of expect my higher self to show up in a vision looking like me only more celestial.

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posted January 25, 2011 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I looked up celestial crickets in regards to tinnitus:

I found the following:

What tinnitus noises are experienced with cochlea damage tinnitus?

The sounds normally associated with tinnitus from cochlea damage can include:

* ringing bells
* chirping sounds
* sounds like cicadas or crickets
* roaring
* hissing and fluttering sounds
* a high frequency noise similar to that of a computer monitor.
http://yurhealth.com/?cat=17


The stuff that you described could be easily viewed as tinnitus

it may not be a metaphysical experience


also the tinnitus and the metaphysical experience could be in synchronicity with each other


as I pointed out before

in the old days, physical experiences were often viewed as metaphysical
today, metaphysical experiences often viewed as physical experiences

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posted January 25, 2011 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Glaucus:

all of that fits in with sleep paralysis though


maybe the metaphysical experiences (not talking about hallucinations) do occur during sleep paralysis
there can be synchronicity

you said the following:
"I sometimes hear voices, but they usually sound demonic and want me to convert to satanism so I just ignore it."

Your talk about demonic entities could be viewed as night terrors

if they are not, it seems like you have some grounding issues and really need to protect yourself

I also wonder why you're attracting demonic entities

also sleep paralysis doesn't have to involve night terrors
it can involve pleasant experiences

A lot of physical stuff was often viewed as metaphysical stuff in the old times
now today, it's possible that a lot of metaphysical stuff is often viewed as physical stuff

There could be a synchronicity that links the physical and metaphysical stuff together


Well I'm never paralyzed when it happens and it only happens when I'm more clairaudient/psychic.

I have an entity stuck in my 3rd eye that I've gotten some validation for that it's probably related to. I get bizarre imagery of demons and angels all the time too. Within the last month I did a blind word search in a dictionary to try to see what if anything my guides wanted to communicate and the words seemed to fit a theme of convert to satanism of we'll strong-arm you into it. I've had such a ****** year I was thinking whatever, torture me or I'll die it doesn't matter but I'm not going to fear it. That will only feed it.

I do think a lot of the masonic types on the website I mentioned are into such things. One person I was in touch with briefly was an mk-ultra victim off that site who was trying to break her programming, and I later saw a guy with the same handle of this man from the indigo site try to round her back up on another forum. That guy claims to have a black aura and tried to contact me separately on indigosociety. When I refused to talk to him (his main handle is illuminati for crying out loud, I'm not an imbecile) he became angry/indignant. When I went to indigosociety I got the feeling I should not be there, but posted anyway because I didn't quite believe in illuminati and I was already out of it and on the verge of being shamanically dismembered. Also, the mk-ultra victim I mentioned was gang-stalked on indigosociety pretty severely for saying some of the most basic thing. If you scratch the surface even slightly, there are very weird patterns and happenings at that site. I think a lot of the main posters there are mind control victims or are in satanic families. Some people there will know something and months down the line pretend to be ignorant on a subject. It seems almost theatrical at times.

I have mars sq drakonia and translyvannia in a wide trine to my moon. I don't know why I attract them right now exactly, but I hear it's not an uncommon occurence when people start going towards the light. I've spent most of my life very depressed or suicidal so they have a lot of vibrational hooks they can play with. I used to not want to tell anyone this stuff, but I figure Jesus was tested so may be that's why it's happening. I do have a high percentage of reptilian blood and I've been very angry this last year and I'm still trying to work out why that is. It's not normal for me. Either way I've found a shaman I'll see as soon as he gets back in the country, and maybe that will shed some light on the scenario.

Really I don't want to focus on the entity or negative stuff because it really doesn't matter too much and it only scares the people who read it. I don't think most people on here have anything to be afraid of.

Editing for the reply.
I do like to look at rational reasons for things, but this stuff only happened when I started waking up. At times when I try to listen it gets very loud and when I tell whatever it is to quiet down because I can't hear it it will. When I think I'm getting clairaudience and try to ask something spiritually or when I think about clairaudience or especially being clairaudient.. sometimes the noise gets a lot louder. At one point it was hurting my ears and when I kept saying I couldn't hear anything it quieted down a ton. I have a friend who is clairaudient and he hears the same ringing I do when he's drank too much it'll switch between a voice that will turn to ringing. You hear ringing when you don't hear voices. It's a fact of clairaudience that all experienced clairaudients will attest to.

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posted January 25, 2011 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are aspects that I get 'feelings' about and/or have researched some...most of us here have tight aspects to these as well...some more aspects, some tighter, or wider orbs...these are only aspects that are 1 degree or less...many within hours...some of these are important in the sense that we have connections such as Pleiades/Hermes aka Thoth/Hopi...and Magdalena/Siva being the same 'person'...

Asclepius @24RX SC square Uranus within hours
Atlantis @8 LIB square Mars, opp Spirit in RX
DNA @28RX TA square Chiron RX, conjuncts Nessus RX
Gal. Ctr @26 SAG oppose Isis, conjunct Jupiter, Sext Magdalena RX and Siva, trine Vertex
Great Attractor @13 SAG sextile 1992 QB1 RX, square Mean Node
Hermes @ 8AQ RX square ARMC, trine Apollo and Atlantis, square Hades RX, Merc and Neptune, sext Spirit RX and Karma
Hopi @10 VIR trine Hades RX, square Karma, Sext MC and Orcus
Isis @26GE oppose Gal. Ctr and Jupiter, trine Magdalena and Siva, Sextile Sedna RX and Vertex
Karma @9 SAG sextile Apollo and square Hopi
Orcus @9 CAN square Apollo, Sext Hades and Hopi
Pallas @13 CAP trine Urania and mean Node, Sext Venus
Kaali @20 VIR trine ASC and Moon
Neptune @7 SCORP conjunct MC and Merc, trine Moon, Sext Pluto and square Hermes
Pluto @7VIR sext Mars, Merc and Neptune
Sedna @27RX ARIES oppose Siva, square True BML, trine Jupiter, sextile Isis
Spirit @8RX ARIES square Mars
Urania @14RX TAU square 1992 QB1, trine Pallas and Mean Node, oppose Venus
Magdalena @25RX AQ oppose Vertex

I have noticed with all of us that alot of our asteroids and such, in which we have tight aspects are in RX...I am sure there is something there...
Glac...do you have suggestions on other asteroids and such that are of the spiritual nature? That can insinuate a 'higher calling', 'Indigo/Starseeds', Kundalini, or gifts of the spirit? Mochai? Anyone?

Kat

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posted January 25, 2011 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your family is uber powerful kat. Sorry I can't give any insight.

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posted January 25, 2011 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know exactly what sleep paralysis is, I dealt with it for most of my life...when I had particular OBE's, I could not move, no matter how hard I tried...all of the studies on Sleep Paralysis is what led me to the whole Starseed thing last spring...

Once a friend told me that she suspected I was having OBE's, it triggered something...I had an amazing experience...I gave up alcohol...then the real adventure began...crazy experiences, but not awful...I have not had a sleep paraylsis experience since...

That was a trigger of some sort to my awakening, and a few months after meeting my bf...it's been a crazy adventure since then...that's when these high-pitched tones began, which is common with Starseeds and such who are awakening..my bf first thought it was Tinnitus with him, but after researching, he found it was not the case..

I have not had any experiences with dark entities, even though I have been warned that I could...this is the only forum I am a part of...I am leery of many...it's cool, my bf and I are awakening at the same pace...I am thankful I have him to share it with, and to help guide me at times, and me him...

We try to keep our vibrations high, stay away from negative people, places and situations. We both know we are very susceptible, as are my children...we just laugh, learn and love alot...

Another thing...when I started studying Sleep Paralysis last year, it first led me to an article on 'Abductions', and the RH-Neg factor...I am RH-Neg just like my oldest son, which I guess implies more Reptilian DNA than others...supposedly RH people are 'monitored', and abducted for studies...

All of us have felt as if we have been abducted at some point, a few have seen Aliens looking into windows as children, 2 of my grandsons are experiencing the same, now...a few have unexplained scars since childhood, a couple of us, such as myself have awoken to strange 'spot's' on our arms especially..which of course can be explained as something else...

A couple of months ago, we met an older couple, working with MUFON...they came out to check out UFO footage we had taken...we started talking, he worked as some big wig for the government, and has seen photos of Aliens...and was let go with he couldn't be shushed...this is a 70 year old man mind you..they told me to not disregard the 3 vivid dreams I had over a week period of UFO's as dreams...they said they were probably abductions, and that's how alot take place...I had a lucid dream about this couple a few days before meeting them also..

We are going out to visit this couple the beginning of March, when we go to the Hopi reservation to meet with a Shaman...they have other info for us that pertains to us...not putting anymore here..lol I don't care about myself, I will not fear the Illuminati/Reptilians...but not going to put other people in jeopardy...

So, it all may sound nuts, but if you were to meet us in person, you would see that we are more normal than most...'we are spiritual beings, having a human experience' is all

Ten years ago, even 5, I would have thought I was nuts, we are all insane...not after this past year, and thinking back through experiences...it all adds up, and makes perfect sense...

Kat

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posted January 25, 2011 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's okay mochai...I am hoping Glac perhaps can...we have many other things in common mochai...
I just get really frustrated at times, every single time somebody says they can or will help, they *poof* on me...I am not saying you, you were straight up with me from the beginning...I appreciate that..

I have people offereing to do readings of Tarots, and charts...then *poof*...lol I start to take it personal after awhile...
I study 8 to 12 hours a day...I am trying to help several souls, aside from myself...one thing I am really interested in as well, aside from numerology and Lexigramming, is sabian symbols...I know there are answers there for us, but my brain does not know how to interpret the meanings! uggg I told my bf he is gonna have to take a shot at it for us...
Is it just the way my mind works do you suppose? Or is there some secret to it? My youngest is really starting to 'wake up', and I know he is a powerful soul, but I am frustrated because I don't feel as if I can help him...it's just nice having others to discuss these experiences with...thank you, once again sweetie...

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posted January 25, 2011 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blonderiverkat:
You are aware that I am a newbie to Astrology Glac, I'm sure...so in your expert opinion, what other asteroid and trans-neptunian objects do you feel indicate Starseed potential?
I was told that our higher-selves all had a master plan in reuniting in this lifetime, here on earth...it was implied by all of our very close aspects to the Galactic Center...I am trying to help the younger ones to figure out what their 'mission' here is...their true souls 'purpose'...
Many of us have very tight aspects to each others personal planets and such...even the ones not 'related' as far as this incarnation goes...there are definite 'soul' ties in Draconic...we are definitely here for some purpose...
btw...breaking up your posts like that...what a difference! I can read all of it, with no feeling of being overwhelmed! Thanks!

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This is just my opinion. I don't have any expert opinions on any thing. I don't like to refer to myself as an expert on anything. I view myself as somebody that hyper-focuses and gets obsessive with things that I am interested in. My deeply immersing myself in a subject helps me grasp it well even though it takes me longer than others to remember and understand things. If I am not interested in a subject,I can be completely clueless about it.


any ways...
I'd say the transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates that I already mentioned because they are evolutionary intensified objects and orbit beyond Neptune which means that they go beyond the dissolution (Neptune) and are at the "other side."
Pluto,Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,Ixion
I'd look at Sedna especially because it has the greatest average distance of them all by far. It is so beyond and remote that it makes Neptune look mundane. It is a deeply shamanic energy.

I check not only the regular chart but also Right Ascension and Declination which are the equatorial longitude and latitude coordinates which astronomers use to locate objects.
I use no more than 3 degree orb for the regular chart and Right Ascension which are both longitude. The regular chart is ecliptical longitude, and Right Ascension is equatorial longitude.
I use no more than 1/2 degree orb for parallel,contraparallel in the declinations.

I'd look at their nodes. They are relevant.
Astronomers actually record the nodes of every object.
I use no more than 1 1/2 degree orb.
The nodes are far more slow moving than the transneptunian objects themselves. They have to do with the collective. People with strong connections to these nodes strongly connected to the collective and can be involved with great masses of people in an evolutionary intensified way.
This is especially true with the heliocentric nodes. All heliocentric nodes of all objects move up to 1 1/2 degree per century.

You can calculate them here: http://www.true-node.com/eph1/


As for asteroids and other things, I will have to ponder about that. I have thoughts ideas on that including stuff on deep space astrology.

I'd think that if a person is a starseed and doesn't feel like they fit in at all, they probably are not only strong in transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate energy but also have strong connections to deep space objects. There are other galactic anomalies beside the Galactic Center. The Great Attractor is another.

I really don't see asteroids as being influential in that they are factors. I see asteroids as fine-tuners.

Asteroids typically have orbits of up to around 5 years, and so they are associated with personal-social matters. You have to take the astronomy into account when addressing objects. That's why astrologers focus on outerplanets as metaphysically oriented objects because they orbit beyond Saturn which is the planet associated with physical boundaries. Therefore, objects that orbit beyond Neptune are even more metaphysically oriented than Neptune. They represent evolutionary intensification. It started with Pluto. Now there are other big objects that orbit beyond Neptune, and so they represent evolutionary intensification too.

geocentric asteroid nodes return to their positions every year, and so they relate to the personal-social karmic themes

heliocentric asteroid nodes move up to 1 1/2 degree per century, and so they relate to collective karma
people with strong personal connections to the heliocentric asteroid nodes have a strong connection to collective karma involving the theme of that asteroid


The aspects to centaurs and its nodes (both geocentric,heliocentric) are something to consider. That goes especially for Chiron.

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This is just my opinion. I don't have any expert opinions on any thing. I don't like to refer to myself as an expert on anything. I view myself as somebody that hyper-focuses and gets obsessive with things that I am interested in. My deeply immersing myself in a subject helps me grasp it well even though it takes me longer than others to remember and understand things. If I am not interested in a subject,I can be completely clueless about it.

lol I am the same way...it has to be interesting to me for me to even try to comprehend it, and I can become obsessive with things that really interest me...and I know you don't consider yourself to be an expert, but compared to moi, you are! Give me a year or two to catch up! lol

thanks for the great info, I will see if I can figure all of this out...I do agree with the Chiron thing, I have noticed him popping up alot it our charts...and I have seen very tight aspects to other centaurs...such as Cyllarus and Hylonome in particular, even in Lexigramming...

Thanks for taking the time, I really appreciate it so much....

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What are your feelings on Amycus Glac? I have pretty tight aspects with that centaur and my Angel, Aura and DNA....

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Here is an article on deep space objects/galactic anomalies called Gamma Ray Repeaters.


SOFT GAMMA RAY REPEATERS IN ASTROLOGY


Toward an Astrology of Magnetars
©1998-1999 by Richard Nolle

Earth - or half of it, any rate - got blasted at 10:22 UT on August 27, 1998.1 During the following five minutes, our home planet was on the receiving end of a cosmic ray barrage (of gamma-rays, X-rays and radio waves) so intense that it ionized Earth's upper atmosphere to levels normally seen only during the daytime. Researchers at Stanford University who measured the ionization described it as "the first direct evidence of a physical effect on the Earth's environment by a distant star, or by any star other than our own Sun."2

The blast came from SGR 1900+14, a newly recognized type of star called a magnetar, in the constellation Aquila (the Eagle). At its source, the phenomenal five-minute cosmic ray surge was the energy equivalent of our Sun's entire output for the next 300 years, according to UC Berkeley physicist Kevin Hurley.3 Fortunately for us, SGR 1900+14 is so far away that it took the surge of cosmic radiation over 20,000 years just to reach us. Our distance from the source of the blast was one major protective factor. Another is that Earth's upper atmosphere absorbed the lion's share of the interstellar burst. By the time it reached ground level, the intensity of that flare had been reduced to the point that anyone on the receiving end only got the equivalent of a normal dental X-ray. (Two satellites in Earth orbit, outside the protective blanket of our atmosphere, were overwhelmed by the blast. They went into automatic shutdown to preserve their shielded electronics from destruction by the onslaught of cosmic radiation.)

SGR 1900+14SGR 1900+14 is a telling nomenclature, if you know how to read the astronomical code. SGR stands for Soft Gamma-ray Repeater, and 1900+14 is the magnetar's location on the celestial sphere in Right Ascension (19h 00m) and declination (14 degrees north). In the zodiacal parlance more familiar to astrologers, this equates to 18o12' Capricorn at an ecliptic latitude of 36oN30'. SGR is a bit of a misnomer, according to magnetar co-discoverer Robert Duncan: "In fact, most SGR photons are really high-energy or 'hard' X-rays - not gamma rays at all! A more descriptive name would thus be 'hard X-ray flashers'."4 SGRs also emit radio waves, in addition to gamma- and X-rays.

Epicenter of the AUG 27, 1998 SGR 1900+14 flareMagnetar SGR 1900+14 was over the western North Pacific Ocean when its blast hit Earth. To be more precise, the burst was directly overhead at about 154E10, 14N00 - roughly halfway between Guam and Wake Island. Everyone in the terrestrial hemisphere centered on that point - including East and Southeast Asia, all of Australia and most of Alaska - got the equivalent of a dental X-ray that night, courtesy of SGR 1900+14. That's not much for a human, but it's a lot for a microbe. Given that X-rays are mutagenic, don't be surprised if the 1999-2000 edition of the Asian flu is a real viral blitzkrieg. (Gazing at the Saturn-Mars square in effect as the cosmic ray front hit - part of a Grand Cross involving Uranus, Neptune and the Moon - I rather suspect a new strain of streptococcus will soon rear its ugly head as well.) Had the magnetar been closer to Earth, the X-ray dose could have been lethal to everyone not living in a lead mine at the time. Magnetars may in fact be agents of evolutionary change here on Earth - of mass extinction, even.5

If it seems peculiar that a cosmic ray blast could reach Earth from a star over 20,000 light years away, consider the source. Magnetars are most peculiar stars, according to current astrophysical theory. They're born in a supernova, the explosion of a massive star. (All five currently known magnetars are located in or near what are called SNRs - SuperNova Remnants.) The stellar core that remains after the supernova blows off the bulk of the star is a neutron star, composed mostly of neutrons (with a trace mixture of protons and electrons). This neutron brew is so compressed by the force of gravity that a single cup of the stuff would weigh as much as a mile-high mountain on Earth. The whole neutron star can be more massive than our Sun, yet is less than 20 kilometers (about 12 miles) in diameter. And the surface of the neutron star is peculiar too: it's a half-mile thick crust of iron. The whole strange star glows brightly in the X-ray spectrum, due to the immense heat trapped within it.

All magnetars are neutron stars, but not all neutron stars are magnetars. If a neutron star is born rotating fast enough, it creates a monstrously powerful magnetic dynamo (1014 - 1015 Gauss, a thousand trillion times stronger than Earth's magnetic field). This super-strong magnetic field quickly slows down the star's rotation. Then it goes to work on the body of the star, deforming and cracking the iron crust to create 'starquakes' (analogous to earthquakes on our home planet). These starquakes drive magnetic waves outward, energizing clouds of particles surrounding the magnetar to produce a burst of radiation - thus giving rise to a normal SGR burst, which can produce as much energy in a second as our Sun does in a whole year. Normal SGR bursts, strong as they are, are not at all uncommon. SGR 1900+14 emitted over 50 of them in the last week of May 1998 alone.

Occasionally the magnetar's immensely powerful magnetic field destabilizes, giving rise to a magnetic flare analogous to the solar flares produced by our own Sun. Such a magnetic flare produces a rare super SGR burst of radiation, far stronger than the normal bursts from these peculiar stars. Astronomers now believe that it was just such a super-burst from SGR 1900+14 that hit Earth on August 27, 1998. An even stronger one - "the most intense blast of gamma rays ever detected from outside our solar system"6 - reached our home planet at 15:51 UT on March 5, 1979. It originated in SGR 0526-66, associated with a supernova remnant (SNR N49) in the Large Magellanic Cloud (the LMC, 180,000 light-years from Earth), and it was a blast of truly cosmic proportions. "In the first two-tenths of a second," calculates Duncan, "the burster radiated away as much energy as the Sun radiates in 1000 years . . . at its peak the burster was shining about 10 times brighter than all the stars in our galaxy put together."7

No one knows for sure how many magnetars there are in our galaxy. Most of them are undetectable, because magnetars have a short lifespan. Some 10,000 years after one of these spectacular bursters is born in the aftermath of a supernova, its magnetic energy begins running down. As this happens, it ceases bursting, grows cold and dark, and dies out. Duncan estimates there are at least a million (and perhaps as many as 100 million)8 of these slowly rotating dark iron stars drifting through the Milky Way . . .

There are now five known and several more suspected magnetars, and there are certainly a great many more yet undiscovered. In the suspect category are AXPs - Anomalous X-ray Pulsars - which appear to be magnetars that have yet to be observed emitting the characteristic SGR burst. (The technology to detect such stellar eruptions is now only 30 years old.) These could be magnetars in which the magnetic dynamo has run down, but with enough heat remaining in their cores to generate X-rays. Given their amply demonstrated capacity to affect Earth from truly cosmic distances, these wonderfully weird stars could prove to be a new frontier not only for astrophysics, but for astrology as well. To that end, here's a table with zodiacal coordinates (tropical zodiac, J2000 ecliptic) and a thumbnail sketch of the five currently known SGR magnetars. (Check your charts!


Designation Long. Lat. Notes
SGR 0526-66 05 ARI 24 86 S 32 in LMC, monster flare MAR 5 1979
SGR 1627-41 11 SAG 38 19 S 02 discovered JUN 15 1998, 26 bursts to date
SGR 1806-20 01 CAP 56 43 N 26 1st SGR burst ever detected (JAN 7 1979)
SGR 1815-13 03 CAP 43 10 N 23 discovered 1997, three bursts that year
SGR 1900+14 18 CAP 12 36 N 30 in Aquila, last major flare AUG 27 1998 http://www.astropro.com/features/articles/magnetars/magnetar1.html

The following are astrological insights from Philip Sedgwick:

Also, periodically things in deep space blast us with repeating gamma rays. These bodies called Soft Gamma Ray repeaters (SGR’s not to be confused with the astronomers designation for Sagittarius) shower people with the urge to conjure up transformational events by deriving meaning from the events occurring around us. The essence of understanding occurs when a person realizes how to adjust their energy with what surrounds the body, thus creating a state of alignment. It’s a bit like watching a lizard change color to fit in with its surroundings. The most recent burst lasted 1.8 seconds and reached our sensors on April 6th. Why bother with something so short in length? These bursts can knock out satellites, disrupt cell phones and re-tweak any electromagnetic sensitive device - like a person’s chakra system for instance. http://www.mayanmajix.com/art2425.html

Personally, I believe cell phones and such ought to be banned. I use my cell phone so minimally that if it weren't for things like, "my airbus has been delayed, please reprogram your Mercedes for my pick-up time," I wouldn't use it at all. Plus I wonder... with the increasing dependence upon these devices, the proliferation of the satellites required to support the technology, what will happen when Soft Gamma Ray Repeaters and solar storms of the next solar max regardless how minimal, knock out our satellites as is suggested, will occur and has occurred in the past? Can you image if for two days the entire cell phone/satellite system dropped off line? Could it be Twitter Twilight? http://snoedel.punt.nl/?id=467972&r=1&tbl_archief=&

wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_gamma_repeater


From his The Soul Of The Sky book:

Bearing in mind that Gamma radiation seeks to instigate a transitional situation, a collective surge for transmuting life on Earth results. Those personally connected to the SGR’s zodiacal location have a more difficult job. Somehow, they become unconscious provocateurs for those
not getting the message. This inciting influence, though, is extended at the same time that they undergo the same process.
This effect does not support the “teach what you need to learn,” principle. It does suggest that when everyone simultaneously encounters twists and turns never before experienced by humanity, that someone must take charge. That someone would be the SGR linked individual.
Part of the process of the SGR’s general enlightenment mode is to disrupt known methods of communication. The point becomes that of removing dependencies that may have exceeded their life span. For one with a favorite mobile phone or an emotional attachment to a computer, it
might be time for an upgrade - at least to a foreign, unfamiliar and hopefully superior operating system. Lecturers fret over finding new antidotes replacing heavily labored stories. Speech and
joke writers make a living on this principle. And in interaction between people, new ways of getting the core of what needs to be communicated without preambles, justifications or excuses
come to light. Like the SGR’s imply, these changes are a blast!
A final noteworthy consideration in the SGR is that they are prone to having “starquakes.”
Loosely similar to earthquakes, astrophysicists have described this natural, internal tension releasing mechanism to be “self-organized criticality.”

nature: soul awakening

significance: regular refresh of one's energy field

In my chart:

SGR 1627-41 is in 11'17 Sagittarius
conjunct Imum Coeli in 11'14 Sagittarius


He wrote the following for SGR 1627-41:

This 1998 appearing SGR comes with brief 200 millisecond bursts. Like its bursts, mental
assessments occur in a virtual blink of an eye. In this point, an inherent knowledge never lets the wisdom possessed become too stable. It is well known that when a truth becomes taken for granted, it must evolve. A blast of insight - the Gamma outburst - takes the concept to the next
highest valence level of understanding. So too, those connecting with this SGR must apply the same methods to all the things they think they know.


LIST OF GALACTIC ANOMALIES FROM PHILIP SEDGWICK'S GALACTIC TRILOGY CD

SGR 0525-66 - 5'11 Aries
Soft Gamma Ray Repeater'


GT 2318+620 01'22 Taurus
Anomalistic galaxy, low mass X-Ray binary with radio jets, within our galaxy, relativistic characteristics,
similar to that of SS433.


Super Galactic Ctr 02'03 Libra
ZS, with 3U (4U) 1228+12, NGC 4486, contains 3 trillion stars, 10K globular clusters, holds 30+ galaxies in place,
extremely violent jet, 3 Billion QM


Z/ZS 14'26 Scorpio
Midpoint of Galactic Center and Super-Galactic Center


SGR 1627-41 11'41 Sagittarius
Soft Gamma Ray Repeater, showing up June 15, 1998 w 200 ms bursts.


Abell 3627 14'02 Sagittarius
The “Great Attractor,” Extreme gravitational vortex pulling massive galaxies towards it source. Strong IFR.
Located in Centaurus.


Galactic Center 26'50 Sagittarius
Z, strong IFR and radio, Black Hole within the core.

SGR 1801-23 28'42 Sagittarius
Soft Gamma Ray Repeater


SGR 1806-20 0'28 Capricorn
Soft Gamma Ray Repeater, p = 7.56687 s, bright radio, possibly with neutron star, 40 K Lt yrs


SGR 1900+14 19'34 Capricorn
Soft Gamma Ray Repeater, strong outburst on 8/28/1998 disrupting electronic communications, unusual
impact of galactic radiation on Earth, p = 5.16s


SS433 20'11 Capricorn
Neutron Star in Binary orbit with yellow star, P = 164d, subperiod = 13.1d.

SN1987A 7'28 Aquarius
Super Nova of 1987, near LMC, 1st Neutrino detected from non-solar source @ 7:35:41.37 (UT) 2/23/1987,
with sensors at bottom of Lake Erie, OH, possibly fulfills the Hopi Blue Star prophecy.


You can find your SGR,Galactic Anomaly positions with Riyal software which is a free astrological software http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/riyal.html

Select Tables ,and then select Unusual Deep Space


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The heliocentric chart is said to reflect the higher self/Christ Consciousness. It is said to show the higher purpose.

You can look at the chart by itself.

You can also look at close conjunctions of the heliocentric chart to the geocentric chart. That would indicate the parts of the earthly self (geocentric) in touch with parts of the higher self (heliocentric).


from Soul Of The Sky by Philip Sedgwick:

Heliocentric planets can be applied by longitude and latitude to the tropical reference plane (right ascension and declination are moot). The only distinction to be made remembers that heliocentric
influences innately carry the quality of soul urges and predispose themselves to the most spiritual linkage available. Purpose oriented in a karma-like manner, heliocentric planets provide a look at
one's real work, the reason for incarnation and those pursuits that feed the soul. Bear in mind that heliocentric astrology maintains no angles and the Moon aligns with the Earth in exact opposition to the Geocentric Sun Sign. Additionally, the lunar nodes are not relevant in the heliocentric system, but all the planetary nodes add meaning to one’s involvement in the
collective.

The following is from Philip Sedgwick's book, Sun At The Center:


Shifting to a heliocentric horoscope requires that an individual give up a good deal of tightly tied personality points, namely the ego. Astrologers shifting to the heliocentric method of astrological interpretation must likewise give up a series of items of intimate familiarity. First, the houses disappear, along with the midheaven and rising sign. A quadrant emphasis replaces the houses, based upon the Vernal Equinox (0E Aries). Secondly, retrogrades are relinquished.
The solar observation of true motion of the planets replaces the Earth based apparent motion. The Earth and its Moon become virtually indistinguishable within the zodiac. This merger represents an integration of the Earth and its satellite, the Moon. Lastly, the Sun disappears - or so it seems.
This is not true either; the Sun merely becomes the point of reference (view).
The sacrifices of the shift to heliocentric astrology are uncomfortable indeed, much like
giving up the typical ego reactions employed for entire sequences of lifetimes. The subsequent enlightenment and purity of being to be reclaimed make it all worthwhile. Each of the astrological considerations lost is replaced by a new premise, perhaps of true proportions. Truly, no loss exists.
The movement to heliocentric astrology creates additional space in which the individual or event of consummation obtains more operating room. This diminishes the probability of the individual tripping in the very process of motion. The mundane influences of life begin to evaporate just because there is no room for the influences to occupy. This can create great difficulty for individuals seeing no benefit in a life without inherent difficulties. Life becomes
simpler and it remains imperative that the new space created be filled with issues and evolution outside the individual. This dynamic defines the nature of pursuing life from within to without.
Life without resistance evolves. The essence of the August, 1987 Harmonic Convergence blends awareness and action.

Heliocentric horoscopes initially appear to be suspended in space with very little to stand upon, which of course is not true. In fact the entire mass of the Sun may now be used as a basis.
The Sun contains 99.8% of all the physical matter in the solar system! This creates a large,energized platform for the baseline of one’s existence. More pressure and push results within the heliocentric chart. This pressure is self-generated and self-contained, arising from the agreement
of the soul to truly evolve. The transition to heliocentric astrology symbolically represents a
greater commitment on the part of the soul to utilize its incarnation upon the planet Earth with
maximum application.
The first experience of a heliocentric map may be one of, “So what do I do with it now?!?”
The reader is encouraged to recall the first view ever held of a geocentric nativity. Remember the perplexity of trying to understand all of the astrological dynamics that everybody else except you knew so well? Remember the overwhelming sensation of being mentally overloaded? Remember the sense of never being able to learn it all? Welcome to round two of astrological perceptual disorders.
The disorder of first heliocentric experiences result from insufficient background information. Even some basic theory would dispel much of the discomfort. The initial reaction to the heliocentric chart is much like having the ego defense mechanisms and facades in life stripped away. Everyone understands you at the soul level. This is frightening. This is capable of producing paranoia, fear and over reaction to rejection. Then an interesting phenomenon results.
Those people do not seem to care about your personality. They recognize you at the soul level and view the greatness contained by the soul housed by the organism known as a human body.
Relief results and the negative reactive emotions melt in the heat of the solar mass. Heliocentric astrology is like always running on solar power!

New aspects of the self emerge based upon parts of the soul never considered and
perceptions which require that an individual be removed from physical situations to clearly perceive them. These new considerations result from contingencies offered in heliocentric astrology which do not appear in geocentric systems. Shifts in astrological priorities yield shifts in consciousness describing the essence of the individual. Once one lets go of the astrological premises relevant only in geocentric astrology one encounters the new phenomena: heliocentric planetary nodes, occultations (essentially eclipses) of all planets, aphelion (farthest planetary point from the Sun in orbital revolution) and perihelion (closest solar contact point within the orbital geometry).
Astrologers will also experience relief from individuals not knowing accurate times of birth.
Time is a much less critical consideration since no angles or rapid lunar placements are
calculated. The greatest error in a heliocentric horoscope with an inaccurate birth time will occur for the planet Mercury.

New aspect patterns arise (for instance, Mercury opposed Venus). This offers new insight into traditional methods. Consider the Mercury/Venus opposition: a clear individual recognition of one’s needs through direct communication. The need to communicate is dramatically exposed heliocentrically where in geocentric astrology it would never be noted. It is true that some other geocentric aspect may have suggested this need, but not with the direct perspective of the heliocentric point of view.
There will be growing pains in heliocentric astrology. It is to the advantage of the
heliocentrically inquisitive astrologer to notice the areas of discomfort. Later on in the study of heliocentric astrology, correlate these initial discomforts to the resultant awareness. Chances are
that reduction of ego and development of soul occur in the process.


A heliocentric map stands to facilitate each astrologer in dealing with the power and responsibility which exists in the realm of astrology. It is a journey of the inner
cosmos of the soul.
The concepts of heliocentric astrology require that the astrologer
first give up a series of notions.

These are:

Relinquished Precepts
a. retrograde planets
b. angles and houses
c. Moon signs
d. fictitious model of the solar system
e. loss of relative (apparent) bias

Obtained Concepts
a. true motion of planets
b. quadrant system referenced to 00 Aries
c. integration of Earth and Moon
d. solar basis of activities and views
e. accurate (true) model of the solar system
f. gain of objectivity
g. heliocentric planetary emphasis
h. perihelia interpretation
i. aphelia interpretation
j. new aspect possibilities


The heliocentric horoscope strongly emphasizes the extended purpose in life. The
map reveals roads to take to propel the seeker closer to a sense of meaning and fulfillment within the incarnation. The individual obtains and must utilize the expanded operating room of space in
which one conducts the incarnation. Availability of purpose-related activities increase, enabling strong reinforcement aspects to one’s destiny.

The strong significance of the heliocentric horoscope may lead to the question of how to
know when it is time to look at the heliocentric chart. It could be confusing and overwhelming if the heliocentric chart is examined too early.
True, premature analysis of the heliocentric map holds the potential to demotivate the
individual. Still, the determination of the timing for the initial look into the new world remains ultimately up to the owner of the chart. Any time the questions come up: “Why am I here?”
“What am I doing in/with/through life?” “What good is all of this?”
These are questions which require an initial heliocentric examination.

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From Philip Sedgwick's book, Sun At The Center:


Planetary Nodes

The planetary nodes stimulate an area of influence in the heliocentric horoscope. Early work by John Nelson found that a planet was stronger when within five to ten degrees of either node or bisection of the nodal axis. He was not clear as to whether a planet interacted strongly only with its own nodes. It is submitted that any planet to any other planetary node may be considered
to be an effective aspect - five degree orb maximum.
Planetary nodes in heliocentric astrology advance at a rate of about one degree per 100 years.
This does not represent an effect of precession since precession is a geocentric perceptual phenomenon. The slow motion of the nodes creates a generational influence in which virtually any person born in any given century has the same nodes. What could be the fuss?
The planet in contact to the node represents the personalized connection to a collective issue.
The planet reveals the impetus that the individual possesses to exert an effect in a larger issue of humanity and in context of the planet’s symbolism. North Node connections induce the individual to push for advance, change, reform and progress - worst case: rebellion, malcontent
and antiestablishment attitudes prevail, often polarizing the opposed force into greater manifestation; protest and resistance fail to function at any level. South planetary nodes contain
heritage, tradition and foundation. Contacts to the south node support such historical bases with great chauvinism. Other times, the tailing node contact represents dogma, resistance to progress,fear of advancement and the inability to adjust to technological progress. A point of equilibrium and balance must be maintained.

It remains relatively simple to delineate planetary contacts to nodes. Do realize that
examples presented are out of horoscopic context and could be modified significantly by other aspects in
the chart.
Consider the instance of an individual’s Mercury in Gemini con joining the Venusian North Node. A double Gemini influence prevails from Mercury and its association to Gemini and the sign of the North Node of Venus. This inspires the individual to speak actively regarding social issues, monetary conditions, or the sphere of social relationships. Best case, this person effectively occupies a platform for social and economic reform. Worst case, the individual reduces the self into the realm of idle gossip - misdirected, unapplied, frustrated by the collective conditions at hand. His/her overall morality would feel violated without source to rectification.
Should an individual’s natal Mars in Capricorn fall upon the Saturnian South Node, the individual would be an archeologist. This archeology need not manifest in the physical let’s-godig-a-hole-in Egypt mode. The digging into the past could be mental, philosophical or emotional.
This individual strives to extract the value and benefit of what was done, noting the downfalls in the interest of avoiding future tautology. At best, the person advances great insights into dimensions of development and realizes a variety of ways to transcend past errors. When operating at a less than optimum level, the owner of the map becomes obsessed by tradition,allowing an antiquated heritage to go unchallenged by the motions of progress. Such action merely seals the fate of the collective force to replicate old procedures enabling accurate recycling of the same efforts at evolution - ultimate redundancy.
Nelson’s work pointed out sensitivity of a planet bisecting the nodal axis - the midpoint of the North Node/South Node or South Node/North Node. A moderately different flavor may be applied to each of these nodal midpoints. The direction of the natural zodiac constitutes the from/to direction, these points follow a from/to format, that is, from South Node to North Node or from North Node to South Node.
The motion in the direction of the North Node from the South Node shows a movement out
of the past and into the future. Integration, balance and synthesis of the two worlds of existence becomes paramount. Taking the best of the old and applying it as foundation provides a key as to this necessary integration. Elimination of old for mats which exceed effective application propels the issue forward even further. A moderate approach to progress blending with the firmness of tested effort combines for a successful approach to a planet’s theme.
Moving from the North Node to the South Node requires more emphasis to be placed on
exploration of the past. Previous forms hold many keys to ensure that progressive effects do not fall short of the goal through lack of preparation or expectation of the unforeseen. This nodal moderation calls for a conservative attitude in growth and progress. Examination of the former reveals potential problematic situations. Such avoidances, perceived in advance due to retrospective analysis, save great time and energy in the interest of forward motion and growth.


Perihelia and Aphelia
These solar contact orientations establish another set of fixed configurations to examine in order to understand the pursuit and purpose of the individual with respect to the collective. As with the nodal nuances, these points generate interest in destiny and meaning in life, thereby
inspiring the person to continue forward in life with zest and zeal.
At the perihelion point the Sun occupies one of the foci of the planet’s orbital ellipse. The persuasion of the planet strives to find focus at the perihelion and does so with great urgency.
The urgency is established by the rapid motion of the planet at perihelion and the relative proximity to the Sun.
Consider the implication of John Nelson’s work again. He substantiated that a planetary
connection to either perihelion or aphelion significantly strengthened the influence of the planet.
2 No direct reference was made to perihelion/aphelion bisection, however, the influence is implied.
Suppose that an individual had natal Jupiter in the heliocentric chart in a partile conjunction with the perihelion of Mercury in Gemini. Note that Jupiter would also conjoin the North Node of Venus, and to a lesser degree the North Node of Uranus. To contemplate solely the Jupiter to Mercury integration in this planet/ perihelion configuration, the individual would carry strong teaching abilities into this incarnation. An urgency to guide or instruct would prevail until the individual found manifestation. Idle bossiness or voicing arrogant opinions are good examples of this aspect in an unintegrated form. Still, the prevalent urge carries the need to contact, at close distance, those with whom one can share information of an experiential nature.

Ponder upon a Mars in Scorpio on the perihelion of Pluto. This aspect guarantees a strong interactive influence geared to provoke, push, and persuade a deep level of transformation.
Regardless of how this aspect looks at a distance (even when Pluto is closest it is still some thirty times the distance of the Earth from the Sun) the goal is to produce massive change and possibly painful evolution, even at the risk of complete isolationism (not a purpose to be approached
lightly).
Venus falling upon Jupiter’s aphelion in Libra should stimulate some interesting relationship interactions for the individual. Despite discreetness, this individual’s relationship life would
attract the attention of the collective, especially that part of the collective which thinks it has the right answer. The individual bears the lesson to teach the collective how to relate to others within
one’s own standards. Retreat, as the distant aphelion implies, provides the point of essential refuge and perspective. Retreat from a relationship allows for participation in the same relationship, forming a statement of synthesis.
The midpoint of perihelion/aphelion (q/Q), moving from perihelion to aphelion direction
created by the natural zodiac, demonstrates a braking motion. The planet theoretically reaches a mean speed of revolution about the Sun, striving to obtain a point of normalcy. Some remorse may be felt during slow-down. Otherwise the retreat may be anticipated in a vacation-like atmosphere. Enthusiasm for the plateau results.
Pluto’s q/Q midpoint falls in Aquarius. Should an individual have the Earth in Aquarius aligned with this point, the individual feels an environmental urge to deal with ecology of the planet. This ecological interest can thrive without impeaching the Secretary of the Interior! It may appear in a psychological, mental, philosophical or spiritual sense. These individuals try to manifest the essential resources upon the planet in the interest of the planet’s transformation. The
“putting on the brakes” theme of the midpoint stresses the need to pause and review, ensuring effective and conscious effort of resources before moving forward and using (exploiting) other resources. An earthier analogy is reviewing the refrigerator for potential leftovers prior to cooking a new meal. This investigation requires the jettison of the decayed foodstuffs to prevent
decay of good foodstuffs.
Mars resting upon the midpoint Q/q of Saturn in Aries represents the point of planetary
acceleration as it passes through mean orbital characteristics. This creates the need for renewed thrust and pooling of resources and guarantees that the effort extended has sufficient impetus to
produce the intended structural manifestations implied by Saturn. One demands more individualized energy, great persistence and an overwhelmingly positive attitude toward success.


The seven and a half degree aspect family, familiar to those of the Cosmobiological schools
of thought, stirs some initial puzzlement amongst other astrologers. In many systems of astrology
these angular relationships repeatedly demonstrate their potency and viability. The simplest way
to encounter these contacts is to make a listing of angular separation among all planets and points
in the horoscope. Orbs to the seven and a half degree family should keep to one degree.

A reference table of the seven and a half degree family follows:
07.5E 97.50E 187.5E 277.5E
15.0E 105.0E 195.0E 285.0E
22.5E 112.5E 202.5E 292.5E
30.0E 120.0E 210.0E 300.0E
37.5E 127.5E 217.5E 307.5E
45.0E 135.0E 225.0E 315.0E
52.5E 142.5E 232.5E 322.5E
60.0E 150.0E 240.0E 330.0E
67.5E 157.5E 247.5E 337.5E
75.0E 165.0E 255.0E 345.0E
82.5E 172.5E 262.5E 352.5E
90.0E 180.0E 270.0E 360.0E

These aspects imply efforts towards manifestation. It is worth noting that the seven and a
half degree aspect family contains all of the major aspects within the aspect genealogy.
A final note on aspectual orbs comes again from the works of John Nelson. Nelson’s work
implied that an applying orb of five degrees and a four degree departing (separating) seemed highly effective.3 For mundane analysis wherein timing is foremost, tighter aspects of 15’ applying and 30’ separating function accurately.

My Mercury in 17'01 Sagittarius is conjunct Mercury Aphelion in 16'50 Sagittarius.
Therefore, my Mercury is strengthened and is connected to Mercury collective. This could be dealing with the collective in regards to communication,mental activity which would fit with my neurodiversity advocacy and running nonprofit organization.

with Mercury conjunct its aphelion, it's also around its slowest period


According to Philip Sedgwick in regards to Aphelion:
Aphelion for Mercury comes in the usually “go-for-it” sign of Sagittarius. The motion of the fleet-footed messenger slows down, allowing a lazy stroll through the Sagittarius sector in the sky. The implication arising reveals that direction in thought form, word form and listening form develops as a result of deliberate contemplation, not the usual flitting about associated with the Mercury mental process. The essence of Sagittarius strives to obtain and produce truth. The pitfall of the truths of Sagittarius occur when truth and dogma become a system of justification for a form of Mercurial activity. This effect extends through all communications, trickery of a deliberate nature and those things known as practical jokes.


according to Philip Sedgwick in regards to Slow Mercury:
Slow Mercury individuals bear the qualities of methodical and intuitive learners. These
individuals often take time to contemplate or digest a new statement, thought or concept before acting. These individuals, regardless of the speed of internal mental processing, generally think before speaking. The slow Mercury placement sets up the capacity for good listening abilities and an empathetic ear. These individuals are concerned about the level of completion in any given communication interaction. They often ask if the question is understood or that answers be clarified.
The slow Mercury person bears a great level of innate patience within communication. This
makes the individual more naturally disposed for research or in-depth investigation. A naturally inquisitive mind resides in the brain and the individual demonstrates less gullibility and naivete


My Mercury in 17'01 Sagittarius is conjunct Jupiter in 14'07 Sagittarius
according to Philip Sedgwick:
A slow Mercury conjunct Jupiter or Uranus may explode communicatively, defying the
natural qualities of deliberate contemplation which are inherent in the slow placement and thus resembling a fast Mercury.

you can find any connections to perihelion,aphelion as well as nodes here: http://www.true-node.com/eph1/


notice that orbs of 5 degrees is suggested for the planetary nodes

that would mean my Mercury-Venus-Jupiter conjunction is conjunct both the South Venus and South Uranus Nodes.

if they use that orb for planetary nodes,
I'd use no more than 3 degree orb for the minor planetary nodes.

it seems that conjunction to the midpoint of the north and south node or to the midpoint of the south node and node are important
which basically means square the nodal axis

the same with conjunction to the midpoint of the perihelion and aphelion or to the midpoint of the aphelion and perihelion are important which basically means square the perihelion/aphelion axis


I also believe that the closer the orb,the stronger the influence

Maybe people with much closer orbs to nodes will probably be more involve with the collective than people with wider orbs to nodes.

of course, it depends on the person and what he/she do with his/her energies


Interestingly, I have all my personal planets (Earth,Mercury,Venus,and Mars aspecting nodes of planets,dwarf planets/dwarf planet candidates. That suggest very likely that I was meant to be a public figure.

Earth in 5'20 Taurus conjunct North Eris Node in 5'30 Taurus
Mercury in 17'01 Sagittarius conjunct South Venus Node in 16'25 Sagittarius
Venus in 14'35 Sagittarius conjunct South Uranus Node in 13'52 Sagitarius
Mars in 7'32 Aries conjunct South Quaoar Node in 8'29 Aries

Overall, I think that being a neurodiversity advocate and starting a nonprofit organization for people with neurological/learning differences as well as being open about my own experiences in regards to diversity as well as being nonconformist,unconventional,creative and issues with relationships which are things that many people with neurological/learning differences experience. Therefore, talking about my own past experiences will help people understand many others like myself.

I believe that North Eris Node,South Uranus Node,and South Quaoar Node also means that I should be open to the public about my metaphysical interests,alternative religious/spiritual beliefs. It could be about raising awareness about how many people with neurological/learning differences
are metaphysically oriented, but they are more likely to be misdiagnosed as having psychosis. I could talk about the need for more tolerance for people who have different beliefs and experiences. Maybe I need to talk about psychiatry being modern day witch hunt in a way.

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posted January 26, 2011 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! I've been meaning to ask you in this thread how you got the nodes etc. Great info! Fascinating.

Using a 1 degree orb..

Mercury aphelion conjunct sun/uranus

Moon perihelionn conjunct Angel

Angel south node conjunct descendant/mars

Venus south node conjunct Sun/uranus

Mars nNode conjunct Midheaven

Uranus south node conjunct Sun/Uranus

Netpune nNode conjunct Ascendant

Kaali aphelion conjunct Mars (oh boy)

Saturn aphelion conjunct Neptune/Merc

Eros aphelion conjunct Jupiter

Ceres aphelion conjunct Mars

Vesta perihelion conjunct sun/uranus

Lilith perihelion conjunct Ceres

Chiron nNode conjunct Pluto

Chiron perihelion conjunct IC

Pallas nNode conjunct IC

Pallas aphelion conjunct Venus

Nessus sNode conjunct Pluto

Valentine sNode conjunct Sun

Valentine perihelion conjunct Midheaven

Eris aphelion conjunct Midheaven

Lucifer nNode conjunct eros

Lucifer perihelion conjunct Jupiter

Lucifer aphelion conjunct ascendant

Got carried away..

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posted January 26, 2011 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mochai:
Wow! I've been meaning to ask you in this thread how you got the nodes etc. Great info! Fascinating.

Using a 1 degree orb..

Mercury aphelion conjunct sun/uranus

Moon perihelionn conjunct Angel

Angel south node conjunct descendant/mars

Venus south node conjunct Sun/uranus

Mars nNode conjunct Midheaven

Uranus south node conjunct Sun/Uranus

Netpune nNode conjunct Ascendant

Kaali aphelion conjunct Mars (oh boy)

Saturn aphelion conjunct Neptune/Merc

Eros aphelion conjunct Jupiter

Ceres aphelion conjunct Mars

Vesta perihelion conjunct sun/uranus

Lilith perihelion conjunct Ceres

Chiron nNode conjunct Pluto

Chiron perihelion conjunct IC

Pallas nNode conjunct IC

Pallas aphelion conjunct Venus

Nessus sNode conjunct Pluto

Valentine sNode conjunct Sun

Valentine perihelion conjunct Midheaven

Eris aphelion conjunct Midheaven

Lucifer nNode conjunct eros

Lucifer perihelion conjunct Jupiter

Lucifer aphelion conjunct ascendant

Got carried away..



I see that you have some that include Sun, Ascendant/Descendant axis, Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis, and that suggests that you're using geocentric points in the chart.


The stuff that Philip Segwick wrote about was only about the heliocentric chart.
He was talking about the heliocentric planets in aspect to heliocentric nodes.


also....if you have Sun conjunct the Heliocentric Node of an object, it means that you have Earth conjunct the opposite Node


all the examples that I listed in my chart are heliocentric planets in aspect to heliocentric nodes. That's why I mentioned that Earth is conjunct North Eris Node.


Even though there are some astrologers that believe that you can compare geocentric chart to heliocentric chart, Philip Sedgwick doesn't believe in that. He even doesn't believe that you can compare geocentric points to heliocentric nodes. However, I think that they are valid, Grant Lewi,Carl Payne Tobey,Dane Rudhyar,and Robert Blaschke believed that they were.

Robert Blaschke was one of the astrologers that compared geocentric chart to heliocentric. He looked at conjunctions between the geocentric points and heliocentric points. He also looked at aspects between the geocentric points and heliocentric nodes.

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