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blonderiverkat Knowflake Posts: 931 From: Tri-State Area Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 28, 2011 11:14 PM
And Glac I am not looking for Soul Contracts...I am looking for who we 'were' in past lives...IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 28, 2011 11:54 PM
Albert Einstein - some believed that he had Dyslexia, some believed that he had ADHD, some believed that he had High Functioning Autism or Aspergers Syndrome. He didn't talk until he was 3 years old,and had a lifelong history of problems with speech as well as things like rote memorization and linear time. He also attended a school that was actually similar to a Montessori School. Albert Einstein (play /ˈælbərt ˈaɪnstaɪn/; German: [ˈalbɐt ˈaɪnʃtaɪn] ( listen); 14 March 1879 – 18 April 1955) was a German-born theoretical physicist who discovered the theory of general relativity, effecting a revolution in physics. For this achievement, Einstein is often regarded as the father of modern physics.[2] He received the 1921 Nobel Prize in Physics "for his services to theoretical physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect".[3]
Near the beginning of his career, Einstein thought that Newtonian mechanics was no longer enough to reconcile the laws of classical mechanics with the laws of the electromagnetic field. This led to the development of his special theory of relativity. He realized, however, that the principle of relativity could also be extended to gravitational fields, and with his subsequent theory of gravitation in 1916, he published a paper on the general theory of relativity. He continued to deal with problems of statistical mechanics and quantum theory, which led to his explanations of particle theory and the motion of molecules. He also investigated the thermal properties of light which laid the foundation of the photon theory of light. In 1917, Einstein applied the general theory of relativity to model the structure of the universe as a whole.[4] He escaped from Nazi Germany in 1933, where he had been a professor at the Berlin Academy of Sciences, and settled in the U.S., becoming a citizen in 1940. On the eve of World War II, he helped alert President Franklin D. Roosevelt that Germany might be developing an atomic weapon, and recommended that the U.S. begin nuclear research. That research, begun by a newly-established Manhattan Project, resulted in the U.S. becoming the first and only country to possess nuclear weapons during the war. He taught physics at the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton, New Jersey, until his death in 1955. Einstein published more than 300 scientific papers along with over 150 non-scientific works, and received honorary doctorate degrees in science, medicine and philosophy from many European and American universities;[4] he also wrote about various philosophical and political subjects such as socialism, international relations and the existence of God.[5] His great intelligence and originality has made the word "Einstein" synonymous with genius.[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein Sun semisquare Neptune - '38 ego/self expression/vitality (Sun) involve dissolution/idealism/inspiration (Neptune)
Moon quintile Neptune - '39 emotional nature/feelings/instincts (Moon) involve dissolution/idealism/inspiration (Neptune) Moon conjunct Geocentric South Uranus Node - 1'49 emotional nature/feelings/instincts (Moon) involve past collective independence/unconventional/innovation (Geocentric South Uranus Node) Midheaven square Heliocentric Uranus Nodes - '32 - strong theme that can't be ignored aim in life/career (Midheaven) involve collective independence/unconventional/innovation (Heliocentric Uranus Nodes) Mercury quincunx Uranus - '34 in Right Ascension thinking/communications (Mercury) involve independence/unconventional/innovation (Uranus) Venus sesquiquadrate Uranus - '41 love/relationships/values (Venus) involve independence/unconventional/innovation (Uranus) Venus trine Geocentric South Uranus Node - '37 love/relationships/values (Venus) involve past collective independence/unconventional/innovation (Geocentric South Uranus Node) Overall he's an outerplanet person with the Moon,Midheaven,Venus in aspect to Uranus Nodes
Patterns,themes: Venus has a strong Uranus theme with it being aspect to Uranus and its Geocentric South Uranus Node,and so a strong theme of independence/unconventional/innovation Both luminaries (Sun,Moon) are in minor aspect to Neptune, and so there is a theme of dissolution/inspiration/imagination Sun trine Ixion - 2'32 sextile Haumea - '53 sextile Pluto - 1'13 sextile Varuna - '36 in Right Ascension ego/self expression/vitality (Sun) involve karma/2nd chances (Ixion), creativity/fertility (Haumea), intensity/transformation/regeneration (Pluto), cosmic order/judgment/justice (Varuna) as well as evolutionary intensification
Moon trine Makemake - '41 - strong theme that can't be ignored square Eris - '19 - strong theme that can't be ignored semisquare Orcus - '11 emotional nature/feelings/instincts (Moon) involve creativity/fertility (Makemake), diversity/equality/discord (Eris), oaths/promises (Orcus) as well as evolutionary intensification Ascendant conjunct Quaoar - 1'41 square Makemake - 2'11 persona/relating with others (Ascendant) involve creativity/inspiration (Quaoar) and creativity/fertility (Makemake) as well as evolutionary intensification Midheaven conjunct Eris - 2'00 trine Quaoar - 2'53 semisextile Makemake - '59 semisquare Orcus - '03 in Right Ascension quintile Pluto - '06 quintile Haumea - '26 aim in life/career (Midheaven) involve diversity/equality/discord (Eris), creativity/inspiration (Quaoar), creativity/fertility (Makemake), oaths/promises (Orcus), intensity/transformation/regeneration (Pluto), creativity/fertility (Haumea) as well as evolutionary intensification Mercury conjunct Sedna - '17 conjunct Eris - '09 in Right Ascension thoughts/communications (Mercury) involve environmental awareness/caretaking for humanity/victimization (Sedna) and diversity/equality/controversy (Eris) as well as evolutionary intensification
Venus contraparallel Sedna - '05 parallel Pluto - '22 love/relationships/values (Venus) involve environmental awareness/caretaking for humanity/victimization (Sedna) and intensity/transformation/regeneration (Pluto) as well as evolutionary intensification Venus square Geocentric North Pluto Node - '25 love/relationships/values (Venus) involve present collective intensity/transofrmation Mars conjunct Orcus - 2'25 ('06 in Right Ascension) oppose Ixion - '52 trine Pluto - 2'11 trine Haumea - 2'31 (1'01 in Right Ascension) assertion/passion/physical drive (Mars) involve oaths/promises (Orcus), karma/2nd chances (Ixion), intensity/transformation/regeneration (Pluto), creativity/fertility (Haumea) as evolutionary intensification Patterns,themes: Both Moon and Ascendant are in major aspect to Makemake, and so a strong theme of fertility/creativity 8th harmonic triangle of Orcus semisquare the square of Moon and Eris with Orcus conjunct Moon/Eris midpoint oaths/promises (Orcus) in minor friction with emotional nature/feelings/instincts (Moon) and diversity/equality/discord (Eris) that are in friction with each other
12th Harmonic Isosceles Trapezoid of Sun,Mars,Ixion,Pluto-Haumea that include Point of Thales configuration of Sun trine/sextile the opposition of Ixion and Pluto-Haumea ego/self expression/vitality (Sun) in harmony with karma/2nd chances (Ixion) and work with intensity/transformation/regeneration (Pluto) and creativity/fertility (Haumea) Point of Thales configuration of Mars trine/sextile the opposition of Pluto-Haumea and Ixion assertion/passion/physical drive (Mars) in harmony with intensity/transformation/regeneration (Pluto) and creativity/fertility (Haumea) and work with karma/2nd chances (Ixion)
Venus is parallel Pluto and square Pluto's Geocentric North Pluto Node,and so a strong theme of intensity/transformation/regeneration Moon has 2 strong theme transneptunian dwarf planet aspects (Makemake and Eris) which indicate ultra evolutionary intensified emotional nature/feelings/instincts Mercury is closely conjunct 2 transneptunian dwarf planets that indicate ultra evolutionary intensified thoughts/communications Declination Planetary Synchronization of Sedna contraparallel the parallel of Venus and Pluto Without a doubt, Albert Einstein has a strong transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate influence
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2011 12:13 AM
The following is on Albert Einstein from Einstein Montessori School site: Einstein showed language impairments at a very young age. His speech was severely delayed. He only began to talk at the age of three, and had trouble with language throughout elementary school. During a parent meeting, the Headmaster told Einstein's parents that he did not have the ability to be a successful professional. He recommended that Einstein attend a trade school. In fact, his teachers thought he was borderline retarded. Young Albert did not listen to them. Instead, he moved to a different type of school. This school de-emphasized rote memorization. Unlike his old school, they stressed creative thinking and hands-on learning. Young Albert's academic performance improved dramatically. Einstein suffered from dyslexia. He is a clear example of a person who would be labeled as learning disabled in today's educational system. With the right approach to education, these labels cannot prevent great accomplishments, as proven by Einstein and others.
Children with learning disabilities have one or more processing or learning weaknesses. At Einstein Montessori School, we would rather not use the term "learning disabled," because many of our great thinkers had dyslexia--geniuses and statesman like Alexander Graham Bell, Thomas Edison, Leonardo de Vinci, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Winston Churchill, Walt Disney and so many others. Most of us do not think of these men as having been "disabled." In fact, Time Magazine named Einstein as the most important person in the twentith century. Imagine Einstein attending a typical Florida Public School. Most of these schools have adopted a varying exceptionalities or VE classroom model, where one teacher teaches several subjects. This Exceptional Student Education or ESE teacher is certified to teach every subject in Kindergarten through 12th grade. However, an ESE teacher's training in mathematics may end with algebra, and science and social studies training may be basic. How would someone like Einstein possibly benefit from learning math from such a teacher? Also, many VE classrooms put dyslexic children in with children who have emotional or behavioral problems. What happens to a child who is faced with a teacher who does not have adequate training? How easy is it for these children to concentrate and learn among peers who have significant emotional or behavioral problems? Bright children with dyslexia often emerge from these traditional placements with low self-esteem, minimal improvements in reading skills, and a woefully inadequate education. Alternatives do exist, like the school that Albert Einstein's parents found. This school had the most effective educational system of any school that Albert Einstein ever attended. In this system, hands-on and creative thinking, rather than rote memorization were embraced. This school was a perfect match for Einstein's tremendous creative and reasoning abilities. http://www.einsteinmontessori.com/ems.php?subcat=main_page&category=about_albert_einstein
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lucie Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 05:02 AM
mochai this sounds very interesting,past life in india.i often have the feeling that once i was inciarnated in india too!was looking for answers for myself,about my past lifes but with me it is different than with other people i have strongly the feeling that my past lifes were not spend here on earth.i stand quite alone with this...but it is what i feel to be true.most sure that i was having lifes on other planets cause from my youn years on i always got the feeling that its my first time here on this planet....so thats kind of weird.found an article about the flute,i liked it alot: http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/spiritual-discussions/38200-significance-sri-krishnas-flute.html past lifes are a fascinating topic.and with my awakening i got many pictures indicating a huge big beautiful jungle...dont know what this is alla bout,ganesha sounds awesome! IP: Logged |
mochai Knowflake Posts: 1168 From: Charon Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 09:08 AM
Kat- The class is free. He used to charge money for it, but never very much. He is literally quite the angel.Lucie- That was a great article. Thank-you for finding it . There are a lot of starseeds here, and many 'indigos' are. There are huge online communities focused around it. One website, I found slightly corny, but is nontheless a large community more focused on starseed and galactic politics/changes is here: http://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/ . I think iq is a little more active on giving snapshot readings there. If you're not used to such things you may find it a little odd or out there. The majority of my lives are from off earth too, but I've been here for a long time (at least 3,000 years.. probably more). To my understanding, most people here didn't start here, even if it was just a brief few lives elsewhere. To tell the truth, Ganesha scared me as a kid. I was just excited to see a diety in a vision, especially one I knew so much about. My main planet seems to be as a human, but the human race was much more childlike in nature. It gives me happy feelings when I think about it for whatever reason. I've also been kicked off an aquatic planet I didn't fit in at, but I think that was when I was a young soul. Being in the water too long still makes me uncomfortable, and while I love it, I feel so relieved to leave it. Like thank god I'm out of there.. IP: Logged |
lucie Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 10:44 AM
dear mochai,you are again bringing the starseed inspiration.once i tried with a good astrospiritualfriend to get memories about my past life.he said he saw a little fairylike figure who was not from this planet...so far this is my only proof!i think i must check out the starseed thing thank you again!IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3696 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2011 01:04 PM
Raymond, you are an incredibly talented teacher. Thank you. and Knowflakes IP: Logged |
blonderiverkat Knowflake Posts: 931 From: Tri-State Area Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 02:00 PM
I think holly got more than she was anticipating with this topic! I think we scared her off! lol  Kat
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2011 03:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by blonderiverkat: And Glac I am not looking for Soul Contracts...I am looking for who we 'were' in past lives...
Jeffrey Wolf Green is an evolutionary astrologer, and he's really big on the geocentric planetary nodes. He believes that the geocentric south planetary nodes can be indicators for pastlife experiences. I watched his Planetary Node DVD. He talked about the geocentric planetary nodes of Jupiter,Saturn,Uranus,Neptune,and Pluto. It's possible that the geocentric south nodes of the planets,asteroids,centaurs,and transneptunians can be pastlife indicators. The heliocentric south nodes of all objects can too. Unlike the geocentric nodes, the north and south nodes of heliocentric objects are always exactly opposite each other like the lunar nodes.
I'd pay most attention to geocentric node conjunct the Sun for it also means that there is a conjunction of Earth and the opposite heliocentric node in the heliocentric chart. for example, I have Sun conjunct Geocentric South Eris Node in Scorpio, and my Earth is conjunct Heliocentric North Eris Node in Taurus. The zodiac signs of the nodes of Mercury,Venus,and Mars have some personal significance. The nodes of asteroids do too. That's not the case with the nodes of Jupiter and beyond. Those are collective influence. Only the house placement of the nodes of Jupiter and beyond have some personal significance.
I'd use only the Ptolemaic Aspects with the Geocentric Nodes 2 degrees for conjunction,opposition,square,trine 1 degree for sextile minor planet nodes 1 degree for conjunction,opposition,square,trine 30 minutes for sextile dwarf planet/candidate nodes could be allowed orbs larger than minor planet nodes but smaller than the planetary nodes The dispositor of the south node of an object,its sign placement,house placement,and aspects could also give clues to pastlife insights. I like Evolutionary Astrology with its emphasis on reincarnation,pastlives,and karma. I just don't like to use Astrology to speculate specific pastlives. I also don't want to use it to speculate pastlives as important people. I also don't want to use Astrology to speculate how spiritually advanced a person is either.
I just like to look at themes and patterns. Here is some stuff from an article that has on Chiron's Geocentric Nodes:
The information provided through the nodes of the outer planets (including Chiron) will reference the interweaving of historical threads – that of both key personal tapestries and of the larger collective imprints. Chiron’s south node and its ruler will represent what has come before – a composite of the deepest wounds housed within cellular memory that remain at a vibrant and readily accessible, albeit primarily subconscious, level. The south node memory imprints represent the echoes of our most intense and peak emotional histories, those that have shaped our current conditioning (subconscious needs, fears, security patterns, and expectations) and which subsequently perpetuate our experiential realities through Chiron’s chart position (house, sign, ruler and aspects). The north node represents the compass point of the intended evolutionary direction, while the ruler of the north node is indicative of access keys, or in other words, “where and how tools” that can be employed toward the successful achievement of this intended evolution. The south node content represents an accumulation of stand-out memories (critical points). Revisiting these memories is like restocking the warehouse – as they are replayed, they are also relived. As these memories are (re-)woven into the current life experience (Chiron and its ruler’s chart placement), the north node potentials evolve. Restated, present experiences (the Chiron chart position) simultaneously recreate the previous experience (the memory imprints of the south node and ruler) and reshape the future (the evolution of the north node and its ruler, which lead the way to Chiron’s polarity point intention). Thus, the journey continues with an endless array of experiential possibilities. Chiron’s planetary north and south nodes describe the collective influence on the individual, while the location of rulers of the nodes in a natal chart gives further details regarding the personal journey. Chiron’s south node is located in Aries or Taurus for all of us. The north node is located in Scorpio or Libra. The rulers of Chiron’s nodes will further describe specific key influences, people, and circumstances that animate the personal evolving story. Archetypically, what is begun in Aries seeks to survive and thrive, and becomes the new status quo through Taurus. Choices reconciled through Libra’s evaluations (the balancing act) pave the way for a new social order through Scorpio’s “survival of the fittest” resurrections. When planets aspect Chiron’s planetary nodes their magnetism and expression become greatly amplified. Exceptional experiences and capacities are ignited through the planet’s signatures. Thus, a Sun contact will single the individual out in some way, igniting special talents or exceptional life circumstances. A Moon contact can bring difficult emotional or mothering experiences, a wounded self-image, problems with fertility, or can display an exceptional capacity for nurturing, caretaking, healing, and so forth. Transits and progressions by Chiron to the natal chart, or transits and progressions that activate Chiron, Chiron’s nodes, or rulers, will provide key or highlight moments, exceptional opportunities, teachers and teachings – generating painful and/or healing experiences. When Chiron’s planetary nodes are in contact to specific points in the natal chart, that planet, angle, or sensitive point will be a feature vehicle through which particularly intensified themes or experiences will ignite in order to prompt accelerated growth and healing. http://rosemarcus.com/astrolink/chiron-the-evolutionary-perspective/ ------------------ No..I am not a Virgo. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2011 04:03 PM
In synastry:Soul Mate Indicators in Astrology (Part 1) By Stephen M. Smith What some students of astrology are not aware of is that all of the planets have nodes because one can determine where their orbits intersect with the plane of the ecliptic just as one can do with the Moon. Some astrological software programs like Solar Fire, v. 5, include the planetary nodes in their computations. What all of the nodes show us is the development of the Soul over time within its current cycle of experience so that the South (Lunar) or Descending (Planetary) Nodes reveal the Soul's evolution up to the beginning of this lifetime and the North (Lunar) or Ascending (Planetary) Nodes reveal the intent the Soul has for its direction in the future. The Moon represents the emotional center of one's personality, its instincts, habits, and unquestioned existential assumptions; the raw, unformed ego-state of personality that serves as one's initial selfhood until (and unless) one can grow into one's individuated Sun self. This is the realm of reaction and untested, visceral perceptions of reality. Its nodes generate emotional impressions of where the Soul has been and where it is going. Aspects between one partner's planets and the other's South Lunar Node stir up distant memories of feelings and instinct past, indicating either an actual karmic connection from a previous lifetime or something terribly reminiscent of one. The hard aspects especially produce patterns of energy and curiosity between two people, as do conjunctions by the Luminaries, by excitement-producing Mars and Uranus, and by the ultimate indicator of karmic obligation, Saturn. Aspects to the partner's North Node are not so easily felt, representing what could be should the two decide to join forces over a considerable period of time. My uses of the planetary nodes have been inspired and influenced by the brilliant pioneering work of eminent astrologer, Jeffrey Wolf Green. Strong aspects, especially tight conjunctions, oppositions, and squares, of one partner's planets and/or angles to the Descending Nodes of the other's personal planets (Mercury, Venus, and Mars) are significant indicators of soul mate connection and likely involvement in previous lifetimes. The actual pre-incarnate contact between the two parties strengthens the experience of soulfulness in the relationship exactly because the source of that contact lies outside one's current bodily perimeters. This works in much the same way that meeting an old and close high school friend after an absence of some twenty or thirty years evokes not only the feelings and memories associated with those years together but also an enhanced sense of life's meaning in general through comparison of where we were then and where we are now. These contacts put us in touch with a deeper dimension of life than we could experience within either of those points in time by themselves. The reason we use only the nodes of the innermost planets is because those of the planets from Jupiter on out move too slowly to be of much use in analysis of personal relationships. Contacts to those nodes do indicate prior life overlap but more in the impersonal sense of membership in the same tribe, village, society, or era. Angular contacts to the nodes describe a potential (and potentially powerful) karmic connection between two individuals but they must be activated by strong transits and/or progressions (preferably some of each) or they will lay dormant and never generate even a single spark of interest. Even then the relationship must typically be held together by other chart factors for this contact to fully manifest. Contact by aspect between the two sets of lunar nodes are much like the angular contacts, also requiring activation, but the involvement, while still karmic, tends to be more impersonal in nature, an indicator of two people working together on a common project. By itself this does not indicate soul mate contact although it may reinforce other chart factors that do. So far in my experience, I have not been able to ascribe much significance to contact between planetary nodes; perhaps in time. All contact between planets and nodes or between the nodes themselves can have their particular meanings for their particular relationships better highlighted by locating their place within the quadrants and houses of the other party, thus clarifying their relationship to the angles. http://www.synastry.us/soulmate_indicators.asp The geocentric asteoroid nodes could be used too. The orbs should be smaller than the orbs with planetary nodes. ------------------ No..I am not a Virgo. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
mochai Knowflake Posts: 1168 From: Charon Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 06:38 PM
No problem Lucie. Glad I could help If you have the money and are interested, there was a psychic who brought up the aquatic past life with no prompting that I mentioned here, saying that the Akasha wanted to clarify something about that past life for me (I had already heard about it from a clairaudient friend and seen a vision about it). He is legimtimate and he has -tons- of reviews verifying it. If you do it through ebay he's $10, but through his website he charges $60 for 45 minutes. If not he does offer a free akashic reading class as well. http://cgi.ebay.com/One-Hour-Psychic-Akashic-Reco rds-Reading-60-value-/280620314028?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4156462dac http://www.myakashicreader.com/Home_Page.html In a few weeks I may be able to try for free as an amature. IP: Logged |
blonderiverkat Knowflake Posts: 931 From: Tri-State Area Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 29, 2011 08:08 PM
I like Evolutionary Astrology with its emphasis on reincarnation,pastlives,and karma. I just don't like to use Astrology to speculate specific pastlives. I also don't want to use it to speculate pastlives as important people. I also don't want to use Astrology to speculate how spiritually advanced a person is either..That's cool Glac! Everyone has their choices of how they want, and feel the need, to use Astrology...I just thank you for all of the valuable info...I have already found soul connections within all of us, but I am ready to start getting some deeper answers...between this info, and mochai's link on Akashic Records readings, hopefully I will start to get some real answers for all of us...I have also been 'haunted' by some experiences for over 35 years, and it's time to find out 'what' and/or 'who' it is that is trying to get something through to me! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!  Kat ------------------ 'Anything and Everything is possible with Anything and Everything' IP: Logged |
lucie Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 01:53 AM
Kat and mochai  the past live topic is a big one!and no offense mochai,but if i wanna go deep i would really like to do that in my own pace without professional influence,although it asound great.i think i love to learn myself how to dive deep into my own memory.a spiritual friend of mine mentioned this topic lately,i asked her how she would be able to get connected with her past life history,then she said that in quiet time she asks her spiritguides.this i found so cute.so simple and easy.i think if certain themes are meant to come into your life via past lifes it will come to you, you only need to ask  IP: Logged |
blonderiverkat Knowflake Posts: 931 From: Tri-State Area Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 01:59 AM
Hey Glac...which House system then do you use personally? Some say Placidus, I know 'some' say Equal House system is best, and others don't use them at all...I haven't read much on the Koch system and others I would think that they would play an important role in the studies of past-lives, but if I were sure of this I wouldn't be asking you! hehe Thanks so much...  EDIT..and another ? Do you not use Qunicunxes at all? Not even a 1 deg or less?Kat ------------------ 'Anything and Everything is possible with Anything and Everything' IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2011 02:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by blonderiverkat: Hey Glac...which House system then do you use personally? Some say Placidus, I know 'some' say Equal House system is best, and others don't use them at all...I haven't read much on the Koch system and others I would think that they would play an important role in the studies of past-lives, but if I were sure of this I wouldn't be asking you! hehe Thanks so much...  Kat
I use placidus, but I have issues with charts of people born in high latitudes like Scandinavians. The houses get way too uneven. There will be 2 signs intercepted on each side.
I briefly switched to the whole sign house system which is actually the oldest house sysem. Vedic Astrologers mainly use that house system. Classical and Hellenistic Astrologers do too. Shamanic Astrologers do that as well. There were interpretation errors in Ptolemy's text which made astrologers think that he used an Equal House system when he actually used the Whole System. That led to other astrologers coming up with other house systems. Now there over 10 house systems. Placidus and Koch house systems as well as many other house systems break down in the Polar Regions. Millions of people live in the North Polar regions. At certain places at certain times, there are are houses missings and even no houses The Ascendant can be conjunct the Midheaven in the Polar Regions, leaving no houses existing. ------------------ A different mind is NOT a deficient mind. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
lucie Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 07:30 AM
my understanding is very liminted when it come to houses and the placidus system i use.i know about koch,but glaucus can you maybe give a little short explanation about what the difference is between koch and placidus?just if you like  IP: Logged |
mochai Knowflake Posts: 1168 From: Charon Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 10:12 AM
It was only an offer if you wanted to try it that way. Best giving the option than not. Professionals have helped me understand things better than my visions could (oh and I do ask a lot, I drive my guides crazy I'm sure). Crystals can help too for clairvoyance and past life memory. I have no doubt that you can do it by yourself.IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 10:39 AM
Sometimes your guides step in and send you a dream to kick you awake. When it doesn't work and you ignore the dream they figure they'll completely turn your life upside down to listen to them Yep. That's what happened to me. I also like the idea of self-discovery but sometimes the advice of someone who has more knowledge on the subject is immensely helpful. Personally I'm not that interested in past lives, sure it's interesting but I am more concerned in what I can do Now, what effect can I have Now. I have found that when I follow the calling of my North Node I feel happiest and most complete. IP: Logged |
lucie Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 10:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by mochai: It was only an offer if you wanted to try it that way. Best giving the option than not. Professionals have helped me understand things better than my visions could (oh and I do ask a lot, I drive my guides crazy I'm sure). Crystals can help too for clairvoyance and past life memory. I have no doubt that you can do it by yourself.
thanks mochai,i appreciate your empathy and know that it would be helpful,no doubt!its just that i always do all kinds of spiritual help/also astrology without asking money,but no offense to those who ask money!its just that i would love to do it myself,cause i do most things in life myself i am 30 years and i have read that those people who have had kundaliniawakening before mid-life(where kundalini rises naturally) should not force to much for that can be a bit dangerous.according to my teacher it is important to slow down the process as much as possible before age 38-42 cause before that time the soul hasn't matured and all of these efforts are often not bringing the desired effect.i just have to keep things easy and trust the process.may i ask how old you are? IP: Logged |
mochai Knowflake Posts: 1168 From: Charon Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 12:04 PM
Wow, great information. I'm 26. I'm pretty sure my kundalini started at least when I was 22. I'm always wanting to do things or work (jupiter in capricorn on the 6th house cusp as well as venus in the 6th.. four planets in capricorn.. i love to work ). I've been wanting to find a teacher, but the best I can do is read a lot on kundalini which is hard because I shouldn't be reading/concentrating. I'm applying for partial disability and a grant for housing assistance along with assistance for schooling, but I'm not sure it will work out. I was carrying a large part of my friend's soul after an energy event where my friend lost his powers (he wanted to) and that's when I became the worst (same time I got the enitity along with many other things.. talk about a bad year lol!). I got rid of it yesterday and I'm worried I won't qualify for the programs. At best I can't even objectively say how good or bad I am because I tend to be cut off from it. I feel much more grounded now that my friend's energy is out of me, and I imagine it will only improve when whatever it is is pulled out of me in a couple days. Kaali is also transiting away from it's natal position, and I noted some relief then.I know I should technically not even try school, but without that I'd probably sink into some depressed apathy and keep throwing myself against some metaphorical wall because I didn't care anymore. There is no way I could go to school and work. I'd probably go borderline psychotic. It has also frustrated me how much conjecture there is on the kundalini phenomenon. So many disagreements amongst people teaching it or about it. IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 2692 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 12:19 PM
Can you further explain what a Kundalini awakening is like? You spike my interest in my thread and I'm curious to see if I fall into this category.IP: Logged |
lucie Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 12:58 PM
I know I should technically not even try school, but without that I'd probably sink into some depressed apathy and keep throwing myself against some metaphorical wall because I didn't care anymore. There is no way I could go to school and work. I'd probably go borderline psychotic. It has also frustrated me how much conjencture there is on the kundalini phenomenon. So many disagreements amongst people teaching it or about it.[/B][/QUOTE] yes i agree with you totally,it is not that easy to have a normal life when at the same time the kundalini energy is present in daily life!i am lucky to live a less stressful life,wherein i place my own schedule.i do arts and music and reading books,but this initiative is kept alive all by myself and of course the help of my bf with who i live together.my point is that i am at bliss with my life as it is and dont look for better.when you are young you are always looking for the whole spectrum of possibilities and thats why kundalini is very confusing at a young age.later when more settled(well this also depends on the individual situation)but most often people who are around 40years went through the maturationprocess and know more what they like or what they dont like.so when the kundalini kicks in they will find themselves going kind of nuts but still they have learned over the years to ground/what life is about.at a young age people are searching and often must have ambition which requires a whole lot of discipline.during kundaliniawakening it is best(i think) to keep it easy and rest.i have heared cases where people couldnt get out of bed for weeks with their awakening occuring...so this is very exhausting for some,for others its easy going.well for me it was both in the beginning.exhausting for my body( i had uranustransit going through my progressed 6th house)6th house-being in the now =working on something.so i just figured out few weeks ago that uranus(the planet of the kundaliniprocess) was trining my natal uranus at the moment of my awakening.it was good news with the trine,but also bad news with the 6th house.actually just now almost two years after i can barely understand with the help of astrology why inutitively i have chosen that moment in time.but 6th house is not easy,a good astrofriend of mine said that 6th house could be an indicator for bodydisfunctions that amplify,in other words healthproblmes are more likely.if you feel unwell you may rest and be more *within* yourself,paying more attention to the nowmoment than being a busy body with flybye timefeeling. my progressed moon has exited my natal 6th house some few weeks ago and since that time i feel much more like the old me !!!!so the 6th house is quite challenging,but it doesnt have to mean that you must be working,it can also mean that its time to sort things out about yourself which equals selfawareness/selfobservation while being in the moment.i have natal sun in the 12th house and that is opp 6th house which indicates that my essence is being in pure bliss and not to follow any judgmental attitude.so maybe now you get a little taste of what this polarity is about 6th house is really about working on the self,and thats hard to do with work,husband,kids etc.enjoy your own time allways(this is the advantage of early age awakening!) and capricorn is one of the more spiritual zodiacsigns anyways so no worries i think you are right on track.just keep it simple,easy for yourself thats important.feel deep within to know what food,what practice may be of good service.i do not have a real life teacher as it may have sound when i was explaining,but rather i feel connected to certain people that are evolved on a spiritual level(shamans).if i have concerns i turn firstly to my inner healer which is in you also,trust it!then sometimes i ask for a message telepathically from my spiritual teachers and sometimes i dont ask but it comes to me.so there are many ways to feel guided,you have your guides as well. i know that there are many people out there with other mindsets on kundalini,and i never take info for granted that doesnt resonate with my inner world.so i know what you mean,just yesterday i felt urged to explain to someone that kundalini is not exclusively sexual power which he believes it is.so all these misconceptions are misleading.also that you said it is not advised to get into meditation with kundalini while i have many friends with ascensionsymptoms who assured me that since they meditate their symptoms are much more easy.so i would suggest to you that you choose a nice soft music,something particular you like,put that music on and try to make your mind empty...focus on not so much for about 5min=calming the mind.then you will feel centered and much better if you can manage to stay in that state for about 15 min in the beginning,later...you can do it as long as you want to but to start with 15 min.i have 2-3 hours meditation cause sometimes i completely forget about time,but mostly i meditate half hour/hour a day before going to sleep.and this way i stay much more in my center. of course if you wont do this exercise its ohke with me just take that info which resonates with your inner world. you are quite young and it must be hard to go through such a process,i was 28,5 when it all started out...so i had some other years that i could enjoy but in the end you will see in the upcoming years you may look back at this period in your life where your sense for spirituality was so enhanced that it has changed you for the better.people without real kundaliniexperience cant grasp its impact.thats why its extra difficult to function in the outside world while simoultanously going through a personal transformational time. still with that book i am reading at the moment i learn every day about kundalini and i hope i can help you out with anything if you like IP: Logged |
lucie Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 01:02 PM
uhm my quote *i had uranustransit going through my progressed 6th house*...i mean by that that uranus was transiting my natal 6th house,sorry for the confusionIP: Logged |
mochai Knowflake Posts: 1168 From: Charon Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 01:26 PM
Depending on who you talk to, some people will say kundalini awakening and kundalini arousal are distinctly different. In kundalini awakening, kundalini is much more intense and it is more or less released from muladhara. There are stories about Parvati bathing with her son Ganesha guarding her. Her husband Siva comes to see her and Ganesha (muladhara.. the primary chakra) will not let him come and tries to keep him out as instructed. If you don't already know, shakti, or the divine feminene represents Parvati in this story. In kundalini you attain samadhi when shakti is reunited with her Siva (sahasrara.. the 7th chakra). Back to the story, Siva is enraged with Ganesha for keeping from seeing his wife/divine consort so he beheads ganesha, thereby releasing shakti from the muladhara and allowing the assent upwards of kundalini shakti. That would be a full-blown kundalini awakening. When you have completely blown off your earthly shackles (muladhara representing he earth element and Ganesha in the story). Kundalini can rouse herself and seem like a full blown awakening, but until muladhara is completely purified and you gain total mastery of the earth element, going by tantric texts, you do not have full kundalini awakening.Many teachers will misrepresent that and say it's awakened when it's really just rousing from it's sleep and it may or may not awaken fully. I would imagine you'd need a pretty good guru to know that it's fully awakened, but that is from my limited understanding. I say mine is awake for convenience, but if I stopped doing anything for a long time and just processed whatever came up, and was fully contented with the illusion of the world, mine can probably go back to sleep if I play my cards right. I don't think I've purified muladhara. Expect many western teachers to say you've had an awakening when someone merely feels kundalini movement. As an example of what is probably a full awakening, there was a story I heard of a woman who was upset and started challenging god to show itself. Having said this, this bolt of electricity went from the floor up through her spine, and shortly thereafter she went psychotic. My understanding is she couldn't work for a long time and now can only work part-time. She has to do yoga every day and be extremely careful about what she does in order to function normally. To me, that is probably a full blown kundalini awakening. For many years she was 100% at kundalini's mercy. On a side note, I have heard of people who's kundalini has gone back to sleep even after they had gone a little crazy for a while, after they had processed everything it brought up. Stanislav Grof's wife had her kundalini stop when she was given a shot for pain during delivery. My two cents. I really don't think it matters too much how you define it in the west. A full blown awakening is very intense however. Here are some generalized kundalini symptoms: http://www.elcollie.com/st/symptoms.html If you want to look into it, bipolarorwakingup on youtube has some interesting info on spiritual emergencies and psychotic breaks that he tries to bring into bipolar disorder. My boyfriend is self diagnosed bipolar but he has very active kundalini so.. *shrugs* IP: Logged |
lucie Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 30, 2011 01:43 PM
lol ohke...the india story goes beyong my comprhension hope you dont mind if i leave that the way you described it.i dont think there is much difference in what the kundaliniawakening IS,for everyone it results ina different scenario.some people are hit harder than others,like the women you talekd about.i KNOW that i had an awakening,dont need to look for symproms thanks ahm but i know that my symptoms got less intense ,but thats temporary cause i have weeks that i am really off,the same way it was for me in the beginning.then some weeks are just close to what i call *normal* i can do everyhting but still my whole being responds differently to food and all my surrounding compared to the time when i didnt had kundalini.so thats how i KNOW that my kundalini is still active within.i have good days and less good days,but fact is i am not the same as i was before.and maybe i will never be the same as before the awakening.my kundalini was rising from chakra to chakra...but this i know cause i followed a special type of meditation when it suddenly arose.thats how i know...i processed topics of the earthchakra,rootchakra,und upwards...till after some weeks my third eye opened and i got visions.nowadays i have those visions(not that much though)but there are still with me thats why i think that my kundalini didnt went dormant but is still active ...just to let you know that i am aware of the different ways IP: Logged | |