posted January 24, 2011 01:18 PM            

A lot of people with that color aura are sleeping, and while they may be good people, I haven't seen anything spectacular or mindshattering come from them. I was watching this indigo show on Univision and this indigo child heals a man of cancer and then goes on to predict the future rather perfectly and consistently. Apparently things like that happen every episode. I wouldn't get carried away by it. It is overhyped in my opinion. Sometimes I wonder if there isn't more behind it.

On a personal note, I went to an indigo website a while back and it was chocked full of masonic/illuminati types. I hear it's not uncommon for people there to do weird things to make you more hateful or send entities after you, which happened to me shortly after I went to there. There are also people on that site who claim to be reptilian and talk about the emotional ecstacy of stalking their prey in the psi realm. Crazy stuff.. I'm not sure 100% why that site is there, but just be careful. The world isn't what it seems. By the way, that site is indigosociety.com.

posted January 24, 2011 01:26 PM            

Kat

posted January 24, 2011 01:43 PM            

This is a post that I wrote
It was a critique on Doreen Virtue's book,
The Care and Feeding of the Indigo Children

I read the book, THE CARE AND FEEDING OF INDIGO CHILDREN by Doreen Virtue, Ph.D.

I took a look at it,and I found that I could strongly relate to this
stuff. Therefore, I bought the book. The more I read it, the more I believed that Indigo Child seemed like a label for children with neurodivergence including especially ADHD. I feel that New Agers created this label because of the skyrocketing increase of children with AD/HD. ADHD condition is not exclusive to children. There has been an increase of diagnosing ADHD in adults. Some were diagnosed ADHD at 60 yrs old. In 1978, ADHD was first recognized in adults. ADHD had other names like "minimal brain damage", "minimal brain dysfunction",l "learning/behavior difficulties", and "Hyperkinetic Reaction of Childhood."

Scientists found that a novelty seeking gene, DRD4 7R is connected to approximately half of ADHD cases. The gene is said to be an advantageous mutation that helped humans survive and thrive and that it came to existence between 10,000 and 40,000 years ago.

Here are things in the book that I read that pertains to me and other neurodivergents:

page 100, Indigoes may seem awkward or clumsy and may be labeled a having delayed motor skill functioning (those are symptoms of Dyspraxia and Aspergers Syndrome)

page 101, Talking and reading may also seem unnatural to Indigo Children, who intuitively know that more accurate and honest conversation is available through telepathy (speech delays/problems are early warning signs of Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Autism)

page 11, Indigo Children are exquisitely sensitive in many ways. They may have been subject to taunts such as "You're too sensitive," yet their sensitivity is a spiritual gift equivalent to a detecting instrument. (that can be sensory integration disorder, sensory integration issues which are common in Dyslexics, Dyspraxics,and ADHDers but highest in the
autistic spectrum disorders)

page 172, Because right-brained people have such acute senses, they're easily distracted. They can hear every little click of the school clock's hand, and the high pitch of the fluorescent lighting.
(that can be Dyslexics,Dyspraxics,ADHDers,and people with autistic spectrum)

page 97, one of the reasons why Indigo Children are so good at
manifesting is because they processing information primarily through mental pictures. They are skilled visualizers and can easily develop a photographic memory. They think and learn mainly in pictures
(Dyslexics,Autistics,and a lot of ADHDers think mainly in pictures instead of words)

page 113, Sensitive Indigo Children aren't just affected by the
physical properties of their bedrooms; they;re also influenced by the invisible non-tangibles in their rooms. Music, lighting,and scent and can make a big difference in your children's sleeping patterns, moods,and energy levels.
(again....this can be sensory integration disorder,sensory integration issues that are common in Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD, but highest in the autistic spectrum
disorders)

page 6, Indigoes are highly creative children,and think outside the box.
This thinking style has created many of the world's breakthrough inventions
(this type of thinking is in Dyslexics, Dyspraxics, ADHDers, and autistic spectrum disorders)

page171, Indigo Children, gifted children, who are labeled ADD or ADHD and adult lightworkers are almost always right brain - dominant. This means that they interact with the world primarily with the right hemisphere of their brain, which focuses upon visions and feeling and relates to nonverbal studies such as art, music, math, philosophy, psychology,and psychic arts. Right brain - dominant people can make excellent writers and speakers, provided they learn how to translate their mental pictures and strong internal feelings into the world.
(this can apply to Dyslexics, Dyspraxics, ADHDers, and people with autistic spectrum disorders)

There was talk about psychic abilities and visions. I didn't get
into that stuff. Those aren't symptoms of neurodivergent conditions. Many neurodivergents have the common sense to keep those things secret from people that they know that they can't trust with those things including especially psychiatrists.

I believe that Indigo Child is an umbrella term for neurodivergence. They have always existed. There is nothing new about people like us. We're the types that have been in self contained special education classes,special schools,group homes,doped up on heavy anti-psychotics,gave us lobotomies,or locked us up in asylums. Our types were probably burnt at the stake in other time periods. In modern times, we just have more awareness of the diversity of neurological make-ups in people. We have a very long way to go for society to tolerate and accept neurodiversity.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/topic.php?uid=131944976821905&topic=136

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posted January 24, 2011 01:51 PM            

I'm glad you reminded me of that. My memory and attention is staccato at best. I think that may be the explanation for the horrible rashing and sensitivity I'm experiencing. I can't see my aura well enough to know definitively if it's going crystal.

posted January 24, 2011 02:03 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by blonderiverkat:
Very interesting topic holly, and it affects me being that I have several very 'special' young souls in my life...However something tells me that this topic will be moved to another forum...

Kat

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No....it won't.

as long as there is astrology in the thread.

Looking At Neurodivergence from The Neurodivergent Perspective.

A fellow astrologer once criticized Tom Cruise because of his being a member of a cult that is highly controversial in society. He didn't consider that maybe he was throwing a stone while in a glass house nor calling a kettle "black."
I am not going to make any judgments about Tom Cruise with whom I share neurodivergence and the belief that neurodivergents shouldn't be on medication for not fitting inside the box in common. I mean..who am I to judge? I believe in unconventional stuff too,and that would get me badly judged by mental health professionals and conservative religious people. I am talking about my beliefs in Astrology,Numerology,Tarot,and other metaphysical/occult subjects. I feel that I have to avoid being self righteous and point fingers. A person's religion is a cult to another..especially if they don't believe in the religion. Even Christianity was viewed as a cult in
it's early stages. A lot of Christians believe that paganism is a cult. It really depends on one's point of view. It's relative. I don't believe in absolutes. Just like what we see in the sky is relative, and there are many ways to look at the sky. As astrologers,we mainly use ecliptic longitude coordinates, and some astrologers also use declinations(equatorial latitude coordinates). However,astronomers don't use the ecliptic longitude coordinates. They use Right Ascension(equatorial longitude coordinates) along with declinations to locate celestial objects. Does that mean that astrologers are using the wrong coordinates? Of course not. Does that mean that astronomers are using the wrong coordinates? Of course not. They are both looking at the same sky, but they are looking at it from different perspectives. Horizon coordinates have been used too, and they are used in visual based star paran system. There are many coordinates that we can use to locate celestial objects, and so many perspectives of how we look at the sky. We have many
astrological systems in the field of Astrology. None of them are necessarily wrong. They are just seeing the chart from different perspectives. That's how religions and philosophies are too. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want my New Age,NeoPagan,Unitarian Universalist beliefs to be accused of being cultish nor wrong in some way. That's why I give people the consideration including even people
like Tom Cruise who believes in Scientology which I don't believe in. I feel that we humans need to avoid self righteousness and hypocrisy when it comes to views that are divergent from others. I believe that Eris has to do with Diversity. Mythological Eris caused men to quarrel and fight by making them believe that their opinions are right and other's are wrong. It seems like it might have to do
with ideology. It also seems to fit with diversity and divergence which often are connected to equal/civil rights. I believe that the solution is the most simple concept of all - "Treat others like you want to be treated" Even Jesus preached "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" But.......good grief!....it's like the
hardest concept to practice on our planet even though it's the easiest concept of all.

so with that in mind....

I believe that Neptune is strong in a neurodivergent. They are confusing and can easily be confused in some ways. They are hard to pin down,often misunderstood/misdiagnosed, and put on medication like antipsychotic,Risperdal have been used to treat behavior problems in people(especially children) with ADHD and Autistic Spectrum Disorders. Many of them are ultrasensitive(as in ultraresponsive to external stimuli which can be sensory integration issues) and highly imaginative types(which can fit with the visual thinking,nonlinear thought processes that many neurotypicals,and highly distractibility from an internal source). Many neurotypicals might even see them as deceptive in some way if they don't understand their neurodivergent weaknesses...i.e. many neurodivergents have problems with eye contact. It can be because of sensory integration issues or coordination issues that have problems as they have a hard time doing more than one thing at the same time. Having eye contact or not having eye contact with another during communications is often viewed as determining if somebody's being honest or not. Some have to pause before answering a question. This could be because of auditory input speech lags or being primarily a picture thinker with word thinking being secondary. Some might see that as being dishonest because they might think "well...he's obviously lying,he can't even give a straight answer"
Even disorganization and absentmindedness that many neurodivergents have can be mistaken for deception too.

All the planets beyond Saturn are referred to as outerplanets, and so they are related to metaphysical energies. Uranus is the planet of liberation from boundaries as it breaks way with its need for independence,and it is associated with innovation and intuitive flashes. Neptune is the planet of dissolution of boundaries as it pierces the veil to reveal another world,and it is associated with imagination,inspiration, and psychism. Pluto is the planet of elimination of boundaries, and is compared to being the other side. This could be death,afterlife,or could be the subterranean depths of the human psyche. It is possible that Pluto's fellow transneptunian objects could be similar to Pluto. I believe that Pluto and its fellow transneptunians can be energies so metaphysical that they can be hard to handle and can manifest as problems on the physical plane such as serious health problems,psychiatric disorders, and even neurodivergence which are often subtle in their own way and very misunderstood. These aren't necessarily bad things. Neurodivergence tends to be very misunderstood,and it was unknown for a long time. The issues tend to be subtle. They have also been known as hidden handicaps.

With that in mind, I believe that it makes sense that the kuiper belt objects associated with unknown,hidden,subtleties could be indicators for neurodivergence.

I believe that Chiron does fit with special needs which often require special attention. Many children with special needs often grow up to be compassionate adults that care about children and others with special needs. Chiron can be about having painful experiences that lead you to be a compassionate person that care about others that have similar painful experiences.

Chiron is located between Saturn and Uranus.......so bridges the physical and metaphysical. It's considered holistic.....mind,body,spirit connection.
Saturn/Uranus midpoint is said to be Chiron-sensitive. That means that aspects to Saturn/Uranus midpoint is like aspects to Chiron.

think of the myth, Chiron
He was rejected by his parents, Cronos and Philyra because of his appearance as a centaur, but he ended up being a foster parent/mentor of many of the great heroes like Heracles,Jason,Achilles. He taught Asclepius to be a healer,and he was surpassed by that son of Apollo,the god of healing. Asclepius was the God of medicine.
Chiron was accidentally shot by Heracles with one of the poisoned arrows dipped in the Hydra's blood. He couldn't cure himself of the wound. He ended up taking Prometheus' place in the Underworld which led to the end of his pain.

Chariklo was his mate too. Chariklo is also the largest of the centaurs in our solar system. Like Chiron, it orbits between Saturn and Uranus. The difference is that it has an orbit less eccentric than Chiron. Centaurs named after females have less eccentric orbits than Centaurs named after males. The eccentricity of the orbits of the centaur celestial objects is like wild nature,noncomformity of the centaur creatures. That's why Chiron is viewed as a maverick.

BTW...there are over 40 centaurs, and over 10 of them have names already.

It would make sense to think that if Chiron is involved in neurodivergent conditions, then maybe other centaurs are involved in neurodivergent conditions too.

Also kuiper belt object Ixion is named after the grandfather of the centaurs. Ixion was known for his lusty nature like his descendants. He actually got punished by Zeus for wanting and trying to get it on with Zeus' wife,Hera. a horny mortal man trying to get it on with the queen of the gods. hahahahaha. That's how lusty Ixion was.

Ixion is a big plutino(3rd largest plutino), and it has 2:3 resonance with Neptune like Pluto. Its orbit is highly eccentric like Pluto's. Their orbits are similar to the orbits of centaurs with their eccentricity. They can be seen as wild,nonconformists.

I am going to look at it from the neurodivergent perspective too. That means that I don't view neurodivergence as a disorder. I view it as an alternative way of being and thinking which doesn't conform to the arbitrary rules of society. Therefore,I am not going to just focus on planetary afflictions which would be focus on just what's wrong with the person. I will focus on the easy aspects too as well as the esoteric aspect harmonics (5th,7th,9th,11th).

I am looking for harmonic aspect triangles,quadrilaterals or patterns with more than 5 objects. It's possible that a narrow orb esoteric aspect involvin a personal planet/point could be important,and that could be something to consider. I believe that this is especially the case for close orbed 5th harmonic aspects that include the quintile and biquintile which were devised by Johannes Johannes Kepler based on musical harmonic theory. It is said that he was skeptical of signs and houses in Astrology. It makes sense that he would think " the hell with the zodiac signs, I am coming up with my own aspects that have nothing to do with them". He opened the can of worms when he introduced minor aspects in Astrology. Even now,sesquiquadrates(devised by Kepler based on fiveness...5/8) and semisquaresare regularly used in Cosmobiology,seen on a 90 degree dial and Uranian Astrology as major aspects and regularly used with midpoints. Minor aspects are not necessarily minor, but they just require much smaller orbs than regular aspects. Minor aspect patterns have corresponding midpoint pictures. Even the golden section aspect(devised by Theodor Landscheidt) triangles have corresponding midpoint pictures. All midpoint pictures are harmonic aspect patterns any way. It's just that the ones that aren't of the 12th harmonic series(conjunction,opposition,square,sextile,semisextile,quincunx) are not easily seen in the regular chart.

5th harmonic in regards to neurodivergence:

It is said to be a quality similar to Pluto,with overtones of Venus and Mars: some kind of concrete creation or destruction is effected. Intellectual functions (not excluding emotion) and all especially human matters. Transformational change. The ability to express creative inspiration (due to other factors) in concrete creations. Many neurodivergents have obsessive traits. Many are highly emotional,intense and have history of emotional outbursts,emotional meltdowns which might be viewed as temper tantrums and can be destructive. Many of them can be a bit obsessive and hyperfocus,especially when it comes to interests. This could make them very good researchers. Because they think are lateral outside the box thinkers,they can be very creative. Many of them are in creative,artistic fields. The 10th harmonic might be important if it involves near exact to exact aspects (0 to 5 minutes of arc) and/or aspect patterns.

7th harmonic in regards to neurodivergence:

I check the 7th harmonic first because the 7th harmonic is said to have Uranus-Neptune flavor,energy linkings not entirely of this world as well as creative inspiration,but also mental and emotional difficulties and tenuous connectedness with the physical universe;religion.
There could be an otherworldliness about neurodivergents. Mental and emotional difficulties seems like it would fit with neurodivergence too. Also the 7th harmonic could be about the sublteties of existence, and neurodivergents tend to be extremely sensitive to subtleties that they can be easily overwhelmed,overstimulated by their environment. The 14th harmonic might be important if it involves near exact to exact aspects (0 to 5 minutes of arc) and/or aspect patterns.

9th harmonic in regards to neurodivergence:

The 9th harmonic is said to be about completions,endings;what life produces in the long run;needs and capacities in relationships and marriage. It seems that the 9th harmonic harmonic has to do with the big picture and wholeness(the integration of halves,parts into a cohesion....like the mind,body,and spirit.....or yin and yang....or. Many neurodivergents are global learners, and they tend to be good at seeing the big picture. Of course, many people only see parts of them whether it's just their weaknesses or just their strengths and not both their strengths and weaknesses. The 18th harmonic might be important if it involves near exact to exact aspects(0 to 5 minutes of arc) and/or aspect patterns.

11th harmonic in regards to neurodivergence.

David Cochrane(creator of Kepler Astrology Program) says that any aspect that has 11 in the denominator is very unstable, erratic, impatient, and rebellious which fit with neurodivergence quite a bit because they are not naturally conforming to arbitrary rules of society in regards to their physical being and thinking. Some other astrologers say that the 11th harmonic is associated with social consciousness and the ability to reach beyond oneself for help which I also believe is common with many neurodivergents who are strongly aware and tolerant of differences because of their own differences which lead them to raise awareness about differences in people. From the looks of it,it seems that these aspects have an Aquarius/Uranian flavor.

even the harmonic-oriented astrologer, Adze wrote:

An Undecile occurs when two planets are plus or minus thirty-two degrees, forty-three minutes and seven seconds apart (approximately thirty-three degrees). An undecile is one-eleventh of a circle. Undeciles indicate psychic gifts. Where undeciles are found, modifications are required. Undeciles relate to the power of computers, science and technology. Undeciles resonate with Uranus, Fixed, Air and Aquarius energy. Mahttp://www.adze.com/Classroom/aspects.html

Many neurodivergents are attracted to computers,science,and techology and make a living in those fields. Some believe that high functioning autistics,Aspergers are great in those areas. Some think that a lot of computer geeks might even have an autistic spectrum disorder.

Neurodivergents have significant strengths and not just significant weaknesses.

Here are some examples.

Positive aspects of Aspergers:

* Intense concentration on studying
* Independence
* An affinity with computers and other technology
* Good formal essay writing
* Attention to detail and precision
* Original ideas
* Reliable meeting of deadlines. http://brainhe.com/students/types/aspergersstudents.html#strengths

Positive aspects of Dyspraxia

* Creativity
* Determination
* Motivation
* Strategic thinking
* Problem-solving http://brainhe.com/students/types/dyspraxia.html

Positive aspects of Dyslexia

* Creativity
* 3 dimensional thinking
* Seeing the 'whole picture'
* Pictorial thinking
* Divergent thinking
* Problem solving
* Making unexpected connections http://brainhe.com/students/types/dyslexia.html

Positive aspects of ADHD
(BTW......instead of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.........I think it should be called Attention Divergent Hyperactivity Difference.........that's my neurodivergent perspective of it)

* Ability to see the ‘big picture’
* Being creative and inventive
* Ability to focus intensely for a time
* High levels of energy
* Risk-taking can lead to discoveries
* Being intuitive http://brainhe.com/students/types/ADHDstaff.html

In Medical Astrology, Mercury is said to be associated with the nervous system and Moon is said to be associated with the brain itself according to Cosmobiologists,Uranian Astrologers. I also want to point out there are other views of what planet/point is associated with the brain. I believe that the Moon makes a lot of sense because Moon is associated with bodily fluids. We do have fluids in our brain called cerebrospinal fluid. Drinking water is very important for brain functioning. Dehydration can lead to problems with dizziness.

Other things that I will consider is the travel rate of both Moon and Mercury. Both are involved in processing information. The average travel rate of the Moon is 13 degrees,10 minutes. If the Moon's travel rate is slow,it could indicate slowness in processing information which has nothing to do with intelligence level. If the Moon's travel rate is fast, it could indicate quick emotional reactions to things. The person with a fast moon might even be seen as being too emotionally reactive which is typical of neurodivergents with sensory integration issues

The average travel rate of Mercury is 59 minutes,14 seconds. If the Mercury's travel rate is slow, it could indicate slowness in processing information which has nothing to do with intelligence level. If the Mercury's travel rate is fast,it could indicate quick mental reactions to things. It can even be a hyperactive nervous system which is typical of neurodivergents with hyperactivity.

Those are some things that I would check out when looking at charts of neurodivergents. I don't want to focus on just their weaknesses. Their strengths should also be looked at imho. My view is that they are not disordered but different.
Different doesn't necessarily mean deficient. We all have our differences in one way or another? Does that mean that we are deficient? People who think "my way is the right way" might believe in that. Many people that believe in diversity don't. Norms are based on what the majority of society believes is right and acceptable. Norms are relative. What's normal in one society is abnormal in another society. As astrologers, practicing Astrology is normal to us, but it's abnormal to many others that don't believe in Astrology. As astrologers, we are convergent in regards to our views and practices. To the outside observer, we are divergent.
That's how I view neurodivergence and the concept of neurodiversity.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 24, 2011 02:05 PM            

A fellow astrologer once criticized Tom Cruise because of his being a member of a cult that is highly controversial in society. He didn't consider that maybe he was throwing a stone while in a glass house nor calling a kettle "black."
I am not going to make any judgments about Tom Cruise with whom I share neurodivergence and the belief that neurodivergents shouldn't be on medication for not fitting inside the box in common. I mean..who am I to judge? I believe in unconventional stuff too,and that would get me badly judged by mental health professionals and conservative religious people. I am talking about my beliefs in Astrology,Numerology,Tarot,and other metaphysical/occult subjects. I feel that I have to avoid being self righteous and point fingers. A person's religion is a cult to another..especially if they don't believe in the religion. Even Christianity was viewed as a cult in
it's early stages. A lot of Christians believe that paganism is a cult. It really depends on one's point of view. It's relative. I don't believe in absolutes. Just like what we see in the sky is relative, and there are many ways to look at the sky. As astrologers,we mainly use ecliptic longitude coordinates, and some astrologers also use declinations(equatorial latitude coordinates). However,astronomers don't use the ecliptic longitude coordinates. They use Right Ascension(equatorial longitude coordinates) along with declinations to locate celestial objects. Does that mean that astrologers are using the wrong coordinates? Of course not. Does that mean that astronomers are using the wrong coordinates? Of course not. They are both looking at the same sky, but they are looking at it from different perspectives. Horizon coordinates have been used too, and they are used in visual based star paran system. There are many coordinates that we can use to locate celestial objects, and so many perspectives of how we look at the sky. We have many
astrological systems in the field of Astrology. None of them are necessarily wrong. They are just seeing the chart from different perspectives. That's how religions and philosophies are too. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want my New Age,NeoPagan,Unitarian Universalist beliefs to be accused of being cultish nor wrong in some way. That's why I give people the consideration including even people
like Tom Cruise who believes in Scientology which I don't believe in. I feel that we humans need to avoid self righteousness and hypocrisy when it comes to views that are divergent from others. I believe that Eris has to do with Diversity. Mythological Eris caused men to quarrel and fight by making them believe that their opinions are right and other's are wrong. It seems like it might have to do
with ideology. It also seems to fit with diversity and divergence which often are connected to equal/civil rights. I believe that the solution is the most simple concept of all - "Treat others like you want to be treated" Even Jesus preached "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" But.......good grief!....it's like the
hardest concept to practice on our planet even though it's the easiest concept of all.

so with that in mind....

I believe that Neptune is strong in a neurodivergent. They are confusing and can easily be confused in some ways. They are hard to pin down,often misunderstood/misdiagnosed, and put on medication like antipsychotic,Risperdal have been used to treat behavior problems in people(especially children) with ADHD and Autistic Spectrum Disorders. Many of them are ultrasensitive(as in ultraresponsive to external stimuli which can be sensory integration issues) and highly imaginative types(which can fit with the visual thinking,nonlinear thought processes that many neurotypicals,and highly distractibility from an internal source). Many neurotypicals might even see them as deceptive in some way if they don't understand their neurodivergent weaknesses...i.e. many neurodivergents have problems with eye contact. It can be because of sensory integration issues or coordination issues that have problems as they have a hard time doing more than one thing at the same time. Having eye contact or not having eye contact with another during communications is often viewed as determining if somebody's being honest or not. Some have to pause before answering a question. This could be because of auditory input speech lags or being primarily a picture thinker with word thinking being secondary. Some might see that as being dishonest because they might think "well...he's obviously lying,he can't even give a straight answer"
Even disorganization and absentmindedness that many neurodivergents have can be mistaken for deception too.

All the planets beyond Saturn are referred to as outerplanets, and so they are related to metaphysical energies. Uranus is the planet of liberation from boundaries as it breaks way with its need for independence,and it is associated with innovation and intuitive flashes. Neptune is the planet of dissolution of boundaries as it pierces the veil to reveal another world,and it is associated with imagination,inspiration, and psychism. Pluto is the planet of elimination of boundaries, and is compared to being the other side. This could be death,afterlife,or could be the subterranean depths of the human psyche. It is possible that Pluto's fellow transneptunian objects could be similar to Pluto. I believe that Pluto and its fellow transneptunians can be energies so metaphysical that they can be hard to handle and can manifest as problems on the physical plane such as serious health problems,psychiatric disorders, and even neurodivergence which are often subtle in their own way and very misunderstood. These aren't necessarily bad things. Neurodivergence tends to be very misunderstood,and it was unknown for a long time. The issues tend to be subtle. They have also been known as hidden handicaps.

With that in mind, I believe that it makes sense that the kuiper belt objects associated with unknown,hidden,subtleties could be indicators for neurodivergence.

I believe that Chiron does fit with special needs which often require special attention. Many children with special needs often grow up to be compassionate adults that care about children and others with special needs. Chiron can be about having painful experiences that lead you to be a compassionate person that care about others that have similar painful experiences.

Chiron is located between Saturn and Uranus.......so bridges the physical and metaphysical. It's considered holistic.....mind,body,spirit connection.
Saturn/Uranus midpoint is said to be Chiron-sensitive. That means that aspects to Saturn/Uranus midpoint is like aspects to Chiron.

think of the myth, Chiron
He was rejected by his parents, Cronos and Philyra because of his appearance as a centaur, but he ended up being a foster parent/mentor of many of the great heroes like Heracles,Jason,Achilles. He taught Asclepius to be a healer,and he was surpassed by that son of Apollo,the god of healing. Asclepius was the God of medicine.
Chiron was accidentally shot by Heracles with one of the poisoned arrows dipped in the Hydra's blood. He couldn't cure himself of the wound. He ended up taking Prometheus' place in the Underworld which led to the end of his pain.

Chariklo was his mate too. Chariklo is also the largest of the centaurs in our solar system. Like Chiron, it orbits between Saturn and Uranus. The difference is that it has an orbit less eccentric than Chiron. Centaurs named after females have less eccentric orbits than Centaurs named after males. The eccentricity of the orbits of the centaur celestial objects is like wild nature,noncomformity of the centaur creatures. That's why Chiron is viewed as a maverick.

BTW...there are over 40 centaurs, and over 10 of them have names already.

It would make sense to think that if Chiron is involved in neurodivergent conditions, then maybe other centaurs are involved in neurodivergent conditions too.

Also kuiper belt object Ixion is named after the grandfather of the centaurs. Ixion was known for his lusty nature like his descendants. He actually got punished by Zeus for wanting and trying to get it on with Zeus' wife,Hera. a horny mortal man trying to get it on with the queen of the gods. hahahahaha. That's how lusty Ixion was.

Ixion is a big plutino(3rd largest plutino), and it has 2:3 resonance with Neptune like Pluto. Its orbit is highly eccentric like Pluto's. Their orbits are similar to the orbits of centaurs with their eccentricity. They can be seen as wild,nonconformists.

I am going to look at it from the neurodivergent perspective too. That means that I don't view neurodivergence as a disorder. I view it as an alternative way of being and thinking which doesn't conform to the arbitrary rules of society. Therefore,I am not going to just focus on planetary afflictions which would be focus on just what's wrong with the person. I will focus on the easy aspects too as well as the esoteric aspect harmonics (5th,7th,9th,11th).

I am looking for harmonic aspect triangles,quadrilaterals or patterns with more than 5 objects. It's possible that a narrow orb esoteric aspect involvin a personal planet/point could be important,and that could be something to consider. I believe that this is especially the case for close orbed 5th harmonic aspects that include the quintile and biquintile which were devised by Johannes Johannes Kepler based on musical harmonic theory. It is said that he was skeptical of signs and houses in Astrology. It makes sense that he would think " the hell with the zodiac signs, I am coming up with my own aspects that have nothing to do with them". He opened the can of worms when he introduced minor aspects in Astrology. Even now,sesquiquadrates(devised by Kepler based on fiveness...5/8) and semisquaresare regularly used in Cosmobiology,seen on a 90 degree dial and Uranian Astrology as major aspects and regularly used with midpoints. Minor aspects are not necessarily minor, but they just require much smaller orbs than regular aspects. Minor aspect patterns have corresponding midpoint pictures. Even the golden section aspect(devised by Theodor Landscheidt) triangles have corresponding midpoint pictures. All midpoint pictures are harmonic aspect patterns any way. It's just that the ones that aren't of the 12th harmonic series(conjunction,opposition,square,sextile,semisextile,quincunx) are not easily seen in the regular chart.

5th harmonic in regards to neurodivergence:

It is said to be a quality similar to Pluto,with overtones of Venus and Mars: some kind of concrete creation or destruction is effected. Intellectual functions (not excluding emotion) and all especially human matters. Transformational change. The ability to express creative inspiration (due to other factors) in concrete creations. Many neurodivergents have obsessive traits. Many are highly emotional,intense and have history of emotional outbursts,emotional meltdowns which might be viewed as temper tantrums and can be destructive. Many of them can be a bit obsessive and hyperfocus,especially when it comes to interests. This could make them very good researchers. Because they think are lateral outside the box thinkers,they can be very creative. Many of them are in creative,artistic fields. The 10th harmonic might be important if it involves near exact to exact aspects (0 to 5 minutes of arc) and/or aspect patterns.

7th harmonic in regards to neurodivergence:

I check the 7th harmonic first because the 7th harmonic is said to have Uranus-Neptune flavor,energy linkings not entirely of this world as well as creative inspiration,but also mental and emotional difficulties and tenuous connectedness with the physical universe;religion.
There could be an otherworldliness about neurodivergents. Mental and emotional difficulties seems like it would fit with neurodivergence too. Also the 7th harmonic could be about the sublteties of existence, and neurodivergents tend to be extremely sensitive to subtleties that they can be easily overwhelmed,overstimulated by their environment. The 14th harmonic might be important if it involves near exact to exact aspects (0 to 5 minutes of arc) and/or aspect patterns.

9th harmonic in regards to neurodivergence:

The 9th harmonic is said to be about completions,endings;what life produces in the long run;needs and capacities in relationships and marriage. It seems that the 9th harmonic harmonic has to do with the big picture and wholeness(the integration of halves,parts into a cohesion....like the mind,body,and spirit.....or yin and yang....or. Many neurodivergents are global learners, and they tend to be good at seeing the big picture. Of course, many people only see parts of them whether it's just their weaknesses or just their strengths and not both their strengths and weaknesses. The 18th harmonic might be important if it involves near exact to exact aspects(0 to 5 minutes of arc) and/or aspect patterns.

11th harmonic in regards to neurodivergence.

David Cochrane(creator of Kepler Astrology Program) says that any aspect that has 11 in the denominator is very unstable, erratic, impatient, and rebellious which fit with neurodivergence quite a bit because they are not naturally conforming to arbitrary rules of society in regards to their physical being and thinking. Some other astrologers say that the 11th harmonic is associated with social consciousness and the ability to reach beyond oneself for help which I also believe is common with many neurodivergents who are strongly aware and tolerant of differences because of their own differences which lead them to raise awareness about differences in people. From the looks of it,it seems that these aspects have an Aquarius/Uranian flavor.

even the harmonic-oriented astrologer, Adze wrote:

An Undecile occurs when two planets are plus or minus thirty-two degrees, forty-three minutes and seven seconds apart (approximately thirty-three degrees). An undecile is one-eleventh of a circle. Undeciles indicate psychic gifts. Where undeciles are found, modifications are required. Undeciles relate to the power of computers, science and technology. Undeciles resonate with Uranus, Fixed, Air and Aquarius energy. Mahttp://www.adze.com/Classroom/aspects.html

Many neurodivergents are attracted to computers,science,and techology and make a living in those fields. Some believe that high functioning autistics,Aspergers are great in those areas. Some think that a lot of computer geeks might even have an autistic spectrum disorder.

Neurodivergents have significant strengths and not just significant weaknesses.

Here are some examples.

Positive aspects of Aspergers:

* Intense concentration on studying
* Independence
* An affinity with computers and other technology
* Good formal essay writing
* Attention to detail and precision
* Original ideas
* Reliable meeting of deadlines. http://brainhe.com/students/types/aspergersstudents.html#strengths

Positive aspects of Dyspraxia

* Creativity
* Determination
* Motivation
* Strategic thinking
* Problem-solving http://brainhe.com/students/types/dyspraxia.html

Positive aspects of Dyslexia

* Creativity
* 3 dimensional thinking
* Seeing the 'whole picture'
* Pictorial thinking
* Divergent thinking
* Problem solving
* Making unexpected connections http://brainhe.com/students/types/dyslexia.html

Positive aspects of ADHD
(BTW......instead of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.........I think it should be called Attention Divergent Hyperactivity Difference.........that's my neurodivergent perspective of it)

* Ability to see the ‘big picture’
* Being creative and inventive
* Ability to focus intensely for a time
* High levels of energy
* Risk-taking can lead to discoveries
* Being intuitive http://brainhe.com/students/types/ADHDstaff.html

In Medical Astrology, Mercury is said to be associated with the nervous system and Moon is said to be associated with the brain itself according to Cosmobiologists,Uranian Astrologers. I also want to point out there are other views of what planet/point is associated with the brain. I believe that the Moon makes a lot of sense because Moon is associated with bodily fluids. We do have fluids in our brain called cerebrospinal fluid. Drinking water is very important for brain functioning. Dehydration can lead to problems with dizziness.

Other things that I will consider is the travel rate of both Moon and Mercury. Both are involved in processing information. The average travel rate of the Moon is 13 degrees,10 minutes. If the Moon's travel rate is slow,it could indicate slowness in processing information which has nothing to do with intelligence level. If the Moon's travel rate is fast, it could indicate quick emotional reactions to things. The person with a fast moon might even be seen as being too emotionally reactive which is typical of neurodivergents with sensory integration issues

The average travel rate of Mercury is 59 minutes,14 seconds. If the Mercury's travel rate is slow, it could indicate slowness in processing information which has nothing to do with intelligence level. If the Mercury's travel rate is fast,it could indicate quick mental reactions to things. It can even be a hyperactive nervous system which is typical of neurodivergents with hyperactivity.

Those are some things that I would check out when looking at charts of neurodivergents. I don't want to focus on just their weaknesses. Their strengths should also be looked at imho. My view is that they are not disordered but different.
Different doesn't necessarily mean deficient. We all have our differences in one way or another? Does that mean that we are deficient? People who think "my way is the right way" might believe in that. Many people that believe in diversity don't. Norms are based on what the majority of society believes is right and acceptable. Norms are relative. What's normal in one society is abnormal in another society. As astrologers, practicing Astrology is normal to us, but it's abnormal to many others that don't believe in Astrology. As astrologers, we are convergent in regards to our views and practices. To the outside observer, we are divergent.
That's how I view neurodivergence and the concept of neurodiversity.

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posted January 24, 2011 02:09 PM            

According to Philip Sedgwick: Transneptunian dwarf planets are considered evolutionary intensified objects.
Evolutionary Intensified Objects. Evolutionary suggests that emotional and spiritual crisis induced by the presence and passage of these bodies intends to enhance the insight, inspiration, creativity and consciousness of a person on Earth and through events on Earth containing these bodies in significant locations.

This is my take

I believe that the energy of the transneptunian objects involve lessons,experiences that can really make or break you. The hard aspects tend to indicate the possibility of experiencing some type of trauma which may be trying to the spirit but can eventually help you to grow spiritually. What doesn't kill you can make you stronger is something that can be applied the transneptunian dwarf planets,transneptunian dwarf planet candidates.
They are highly metaphysical energies that involve insight,inspiration,and creativity that should be used not just for your benefit but for the benefit of many others. These energies are about about going well beyond self and tapping into that mass consciousness. There is a potential to really make a mark on the world and affect people on a grand scale.

Saturn is the planet known as the planet of physical boundaries. All the planets beyond Saturn are referred to as outerplanets, and so they are related to metaphysical energies. Uranus is the planet of liberation from boundaries as it breaks way with its need for independence,and it is associated with innovation and intuitive flashes. Neptune is the planet of dissolution of boundaries as it pierces the veil to reveal another world,and it is associated with imagination,inspiration, and psychism. Pluto is the planet of elimination of boundaries, and is compared to being the other side. This could be death,afterlife,or could be the subterranean depths of the human psyche. It is possible that Pluto's fellow transneptunian objects could be similar to Pluto. I believe that Pluto and its fellow transneptunians can be energies so metaphysical that they can be hard to handle and can manifest as problems on the physical plane.

Their very distant location,their tendency to orbit off the ecliptic as well as some of them with highly elliptical orbits make them objects that are divergent from the planets. Therefore, people with strong transneptunian energies can be divergent from the norm. They can be quite the nonconformists. I suspect that these are the same people that can relate to personality types like Indigo,Crystal,Earth Angel,Lightworker too. The same energies could be prominent in people with neurodivergences like Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD, Autistic Spectrum. The energies could be prominent in people that are schizophrenic,bipolar. The symptoms/traits of neurodivergence overlap with those of schizophrenia,bipolar. Because of the narrow-minded views about the metaphysical and sensitivities by scientific,mental health commmunity, metaphysically oriented types could get misdiagnosed as schizophrenics or bipolars. Transneptunian dwarf planet people can find it hard to live in a society with mainstream religion and psychiatry.

I believe that people strong in transneptunian dwarf planet energy are people that are ahead of their time which reflects how transneptunians weren't discovered until 1990's except for Pluto in 1930. I think that Pluto's fellow big transneptunians are very complex objects,and so it make sense that they are not easy to understand exactly how they work. That fits perfectly with them being objects that orbit beyond Neptune and being discovered in the 21st Century. They are so recently discovered,and so they aren't understood well. Of course, they are complex and mysterious objects - far more so than Pluto. It would make sense for people strong in the 21st Century objects to be complex,mysterious,and not easy to understand. The transneptunians as extremely primitive remnants of the solar system could mean that people strong in transneptunian energy are also deeply connected to the past. It said that highly metaphysically oriented people are intuitive,perceptive,and deeply connected to both the past and future that would be in synchronicity with how transneptunian objects are very primitive solar system remnants discovered later than the planets. The transneptunians failed to form as planets. I see that as like how transneptunian people don't fit in easily with other people. Their belief in and practice of metaphysical,occult systems can be seen as too primitive by mainstream people that believe in knowledge of science. The transneptunians are so far away from the Sun, that they are shrouded in darkness. These transneptunians can be viewed as the shadow,and deep unconscious of a person. Many Transneptunian people's beliefs in metaphysical,occult systems can be be viewed as being "dark" by people that hold conservative religious beliefs.

Conjunctions,oppositions,squares to transneptunian dwarf planet objects,nodes can indicate very difficult life that can involve significant trauma but opportunity for significant spiritual growth. They have to avoid boundary issues. There can be a very fine line between the mystic,psychic,shaman and the schizophrenic,psychotic with people who have hard transneptunian dwarf planet aspects. It depends on how the person is. Even the soft aspects can be misused.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 24, 2011 02:17 PM            

AS A HOMEOPATH AND ASTROLOGER I see a lot of Indigo Children that are brought to me, not because they are Indigo, but because of physical or behavioural problems. Since most of the parents I meet have not heard of Indigo Children I will describe the generally accepted principles for identifying Indigos, as well as how to recognize and identify them from their Birth charts.

The first Indigo that I met in my practice, was a nine-year-old boy who came to see me in 2002. His Mum brought him along, partly because she was having difficulty with the various labels her child had been given, but also because he was suffering from sleeplessness, was argumentative, aggressive and 'angry with the world'. On further questioning it transpired that a younger brother had been born blind with part of his brain missing. He also had terrible acid reflux and was awake for 20 hours in every 24. Sadly, this little boy didn't live long and eventually died. My patient, though, had shown a natural affinity for his suffering and used to touch his head before communicating with his brother, even though no-one had told him to do this. His mother said her nine-year old had had an 'understanding' of his brother’s needs.

Without revealing too many details of this boy’s case, I prescribed a remedy and arranged to see him again in a month’s time. I met the boy’s mother a while later at the school and she told me how, a few days after taking the remedy, he had been at his grandmother’s and had fallen asleep on the sofa. Because he was so quiet and seemed so ‘dead to the world’, Nan had got worried that he'd actually died... Apparently, he had never done anything like this before, but I knew this meant the remedy was starting to heal him.

As this boy had been brought to me for Homeopathic treatment, I didn't automatically draw up his Birthchart, but after his second follow-up appointment something made me ask his birth-time and I looked at his chart. During this particular month, I visited a Healing Fair in Bath where I live and was drawn to buy a book called The Indigo Children by Lee Carroll and Jan Tober. The book came home with me, and stayed there. I now don't lend it out, I advise people to buy their own copy!

The book described so accurately this particular boy and his problems, that I then bought The Care and Feeding of Indigo Children by Doreen Virtue, so I could offer his Mum some hope and explain that this boy isn't a challenge, the system looking after him is... Then I compared his chart to others in my collection and noticed a striking similarity with certain children's charts I had treated recently and some I had treated quite a few years before. Then another boy from the first boy's class was brought to me and his chart had the same configuration, as did my son's, who is also in the same class. In fact, over ten children in this grade all had similar charts. This set me on a mission that still intrigues me to this day.

Now things were beginning to make some sense, and, not being an Indigo myself, I found it exciting to be able to offer some hope to ADD and ADHD children, as well as those with the characteristics that Doreen Virtue had identified as being:

* Strong-willed
* Born in 1978 or later
* Headstrong
* Creative, with an artistic flair for music, jewellery making, poetry etc.
* Prone to addictions
* An 'old soul', as if they're 13 going on 43
* Intuitive or psychic, possibly with a history of seeing angels or deceased people
* An isolationist, either through aggressive acting-out, or through fragile introversion
* Independent and proud, even if they're constantly asking for money
* Possesses a deep desire to help the world in a big way
* Wavers between low self-esteem and grandiosity
* Bores easily
* Has probably been diagnosed as having ADD or ADHD
* Prone to insomnia, restless sleep, nightmares, or difficulty/fear of falling asleep
* Has a history of depression, or even suicidal thoughts or attempts
* Looks for real, deep and lasting friendships
* Easily bonds with plants or animals

I then contacted Sarah Wood, the President of The Indigo Network* to see if this was just a local phenomena or whether it was worldwide? Sarah advised me to post my questions on her website so that people could reply to me. They have been sending me their Birth-data for over a year now and I was not surprised to see that every person who knew they were an Indigo, had this same planetary shape to their chart.

So what planetary patterns were happening while these Indigos were being born?

I took my computer on a lengthy journey from 1977-1998 and discovered the following.

In September 1977 the major planets had moved into the following signs:

First indigo date

* Nep-13 degrees Sag,
* Uranus-9 degrees Scorpio
* Pluto-14 degrees Libra
* Sun-21 degrees Virgo
* Saturn-24 degrees Leo
* Jupiter-3 degrees Cancer

As you will notice, all the signs follow each other. This was when the first Indigos began to be born. These are the early Indigos and the heavy planets are close, but in separate signs. By 1981 the first conjunction occurs, with Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter in Libra. By 1983 Jupiter has caught up with Uranus in Sagittarius. In 1989 Uranus, Saturn and Neptune are all in the signs of Capricorn.

Now - what if you were born at this time and all your personal planets were in these same signs? What would make you different (or the same) as others?

First of all, you would be very focused in certain areas. You'd know how to operate the Playstation, but you might have problems tying your shoelaces or remembering to wipe your feet... Your chart shape would be called a 'Bundle', or a 'Bowl', and you would have interests that would definitely need to be expressed otherwise problems would occur.

In my practice I have noticed that Indigo Children have birth charts that are rather unique. All their planets are located on one side of the chart, i.e. six houses or less (out of twelve) are occupied and six (or more) are empty, meaning that their energies are strong in certain areas, and non-existent in others.

In 'The Bowl' shape, all the planets are concentrated within one half of the chart. Reflecting the shape of this pattern, 'Bowl' types are said to be immensely self-contained and resourceful, but they also tend to be 'one-sided', so their life's challenge is to integrate the empty half of the chart.

The 'Bundle' shape is rare, and reflects a narrowness of vision and experience. 'Bundle' types tend to channel their energies into issues related to the occupied section at the expense of the rest of their chart. This shape describes the specialist in his or her field, or, negatively, the obsessive personality. And because a 'Bundle' chart has no oppositions, the person whose chart it is, will have more difficulty seeing things from others’ perspectives, unless those 'other's’ are fellow Indigos.

A 'Bundle', or 'Cluster',' is not an especially rare shape; 30% of my clients have this configuration. What is rare, however, is having Neptune and Uranus conjunct (in the same sign). This only ever happens in the sign of Capricorn and last happened in 1827 (before that in 1657) and will next occur in 2157.

From 1978-1989 the bundle of planets stayed together, various outer planets moved a little and at certain times of each year, personal planets clustered with the biggies.

So, what does a cluster feel like? What does it look like from the outside? And what do cluster charts have that Splays or Grand Trines do not?

From my observations, clusters have an intensity as well as a complete and natural understanding of their peer group and their generation. We all know what it feels like to be out on a limb and not recognised by others. The child born at the wrong time, in the wrong place, and the wrong era really. Well, Indigos don't suffer that. They were born in exactly the right year/month/day location. We all choose our parents in the planning stage before we were born (see Judy Hall's Hands Across Time), and maybe Indigos are a little more astute at doing this.

Indigos understand fashion, latest gadgets, popular music, popular TV soaps/programmes. They know what is 'cool' and what is not. Why? Because their outer planets are all together with their personal planets. They're not usually interested in history or old out-dated ideas. (God forbid that they should like folk music!)

Now let’s look at some charts of Indigos that I have treated. To accurately display the full implications of an Indigo Chart, you need to use Equal-House System.

Male, Born Oct 26, 1993, 3.15am, Bath, UK.

Here we have the typical one-sided chart. All the planets are below the horizon, indicating someone who understands themselves well, but isn't so good at socialising and mixing with others. Take Chiron out of the picture for the minute, because for this analysis I won't be using him to determine if the child is Indigo. (however it's useful to keep Chiron in mind as the point of healing) All the planets are in five houses. Neptune and Uranus are conjunct in Capricorn, and there are no oppositions.

Because all the planets in an Indigo Chart are so near together, you have to look to see which planet is nearest the Sun, as this will be the one that has the most influence. In this chart, Jupiter is on one side of the Sun and Mars is on the other, making a child who is expansive on one hand, and a little fearless/aggressive on the other... but he has Moon in Pisces, which makes him emotional, empathetic and sensitive. Plus, he's a Scorpio, so don't try telling him what to do. What a combination! This child also has two planets in the 4th house, making him unsettled at home and dreamy. Because Mars is so near the Sun this child would do best at physical, active, sporty pursuits, rather than at totally desk-bound activities. And, with Venus on the Ascendant, he has charm!

Female, 10th December 1985, 5.30pm , Dublin, Ireland.

Next we have the chart of a young lady who contacted me via the Indigo website. As you can see she, too, is very clustered with all her planets squashed into three houses with only Jupiter on his own.

Female, 5th Feb 1997 , 8.02 pm, London

This child was brought to me with eczema and her mother had a whole host of problems when we started treatment. As you can see , she has seven planets in the 5th house, Mars on the Ascendant, Saturn in the 7th and Pluto in the 3rd. This young lady needed to be guided, not instructed. In fact, even when she was in nursery school, she was telling the other kids what to do!

Male, 23rd March 1998, 7.39am, Kent

This young lad was born on 23rd March, 1998 in Maidstone Kent at 7:39am. His mother told me: "Recently I went to see a spiritualist as I was fed up with school accusing him of having ADHD and suggesting Ritalin use. The lady said G was an Indigo child, looked after by my father his own angel who died 2 years ago." This boy has all his planets above the horizon, with Uranus conjunct Neptune and, again, Mars and Jupiter positioned either side of his Sun.

So, if you possess the twelve characteristics that Doreen Virtue lists and a Bundle or Cluster chart, then in my humble opinion, you are an Indigo.

Now, what makes living with/teaching /parenting an Indigo difficult is their concentration of energies in one place. So my advice is, provide them with an outlet for them. Look at Flower Essences or Homeopathy. Let them take exercise, eat well, play, mix with friends, write poetry, play music, create. To get the best from a child with a cluster chart shape, allow them autonomy. They're wiser than you anyway, so you might as well let them make some decisions themselves. Allow them to choose certain actions in their lives and to be guided by their own feelings. After all, none of these children that were brought to me ever suffered from a lack of self-esteem. On the contrary, it's generally been the other way around, with them being almost too confident and too self-assured.
http://www.childrenofthenewearth.com/free.php?page=articles_free/english_mary/article1

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posted January 24, 2011 02:24 PM            

Neurodivergence just means different way of thinking,thinking outside the box, a different frame of mind. atypical neurological processing.
It's a term that was first used by Autistic,Aspergers people to describe themselves as people that are just different type of thinkers,and so they don't see themselves a deficient that they they need to be fixed in some way. Then it later on got extended to Dyslexics,Dyspraxics,ADHD,Tourette Syndrome.
It has to do with the neurodiversity movement which I strongly support. It has to do with the belief of civil/equal rights for people who don't fit inside the box that include things like equal treatment and protesting against things that try to put us in a mental straightjacket like medications.
the term, "neurodivergent" is a liberal and practical word to use. Some would say that it's a politically correct word to use. It's better than using words like "stupid","idiot","crazy","retarded",and other negative labels that we're usually given by people that aren't like us. It's not a word that means defective. It's not a word that has any metaphysical connotations either. There is no need for it. Many people that don't fit the relative neurological norms are metaphysically oriented,and some aren't. There have been people like us existing in ancient times. We're not something recent. I am 39 yr old(born October 29, 1971) neurodivergent and come from a family of neurodivergents on both my mother and father sides of my family. I think that there is some misunderstanding about the use of the word. When we neurodivergents use the word,"neurodivergent", we use that as word to say "hey..there is nothing wrong with us...we're not some mental defects...different doesn't mean deficient" However,both conventional and alternative health practitioners tend to have that view. We even have our own strengths that help us compensate for our weaknesses which are actually connected to our strengths. Neurodivergence has to do with strong right hemisphere processing that tends to interfere with left hemisphere processing.

Because of my own neurodivergence of Dyslexia and Dyspraxia which was treated with special education therapies(auditory therapy,speech therapy,phonics,motor skills therapy), I have always wondered what
can be astrological indicators for neurodivergence. I have never felt satisfied with anything that I read.
Since the discovery of the kuiper belt objects(aka transneptunian objects) which were previously unknown for a long time, I have been wondering how much they figure into neurodivergence which has been unknown for a long time too. Neurodivergent conditions are so hard to pin down that they are misunderstood. You could even say that they
are hidden handicaps. Autism was once thought to be a childhood schizophrenia. Even now, many autistics are being treated with antipsychotics like Risperdal. Some of my fellow Dyspraxics in the UK
even told me that many neurodivergents in the UK have been misdiagnosed schizophrenic or bipolar. I have read a story about an autistic woman that has been given diagnoses of bipolar and
schizophrenia in the past. Also in the DSM-IV-TR, the soft neurological signs of schizophrenia are also symptoms of neurodivergence like poor coordination,left-right confusion,disorganization,and speech disturbances. The nonlinear
thought processes of neurodivergents have been mistakened for psychotic thinking. Even psychiatrist,neurologist,author of numerous
books on cerebellar-vestibular related Dyslexia Syndrome,Dr. Harold N. Levinson points out the need to distinguish neurodivergent speech from psychotic speech.

As you see, neurodivergent conditions are
so misunderstood,hard to pin down,and are often highly unknown to the common folk. Autism is one of the most complicated,misunderstood conditions. Like I have said before,it was once thought to be a type of schizophrenia. The high intelligence of many nonverbal autistics have been wrongly
examined with verbal intelligence tests when they should be given visual spatial intelligence tests which they are found to do much better on than verbal tests to the point that there can be up to 30 point increase. There are autistics that are even highly educated
like Dr. Temple Grandin who got early intervention in the form of speech therapy to help her communicate in words. She wrote a book called "Thinking In Pictures" which describes her thought processes
of her autism and how she is an extremely visual thinker that her thoughts are like movies.

All the planets beyond Saturn are referred to as outerplanets, and so they are related to metaphysical energies. Uranus is the planet of liberation from boundaries as it breaks way with its need for
independence,and it is associated with innovation and intuitive flashes. Neptune is the planet of dissolution of boundaries as it pierces the veil to reveal another world,and it is associated with imagination,inspiration, and psychism.

Kuiper Belt Objects orbit beyond Neptune, and so they are transneptunians. Neptune is the planet of dissolution of boundaries, the kuiper belt objects go beyond the boundaries into the unknown. These energies could be so metaphysical that they can manifest as problems on the physical plane,and that could manifest as neurodivergence which is often viewed as disorder by society but has its strengths. The kuiper belt objects have highly eccentric orbits and orbit off the ecliptic,and so they can be about being a nonconformist and not fitting in with the mainstream.

Many neurotypical(normal neurological processing) people focus on neurodivergence as a disorder,and so they would tend to focus on the hard aspects, but I don't see it as disorder but a different,neutral
way of thinking. That's how many of us neurodivergents see neurodivergence as being. That's why we believe in neurodiversity.
Therefore, I don't just look for hard aspects. I also looked at the soft aspects.

OUTER OBJECTS -
Neptune,Uranus,Kuiper Belt Objects involving Sun,Moon,Mercury,MC,Asc - nonroutine,nonlinear,metaphysically oriented)

NEPTUNE - imaginative,ultrasensitive,idealistic

URANUS -
unconventional,independent,innovative,
novelty-seeking

KUIPER BELT OBJECTS -
(Pluto,Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Ixion,Varuna)
ultrasensitivity,nonconformity,intensity,hyperfocus

I included outerplanet midpoint configurations involving Sun,Moon,Mercury,MC,Asc

I also included Right Ascension (Equatorial longitude coordinates that astronomers use to locate celestial objects) with the outerplanet and kuiper belt aspects. I didn't use Right Ascension with midpoints.
Right Ascension will be distinguished with RA

Outer Planet Aspect and Midpoint Interpretatations are from Ruth Brummond's Rulebook

Indigo 1

October 26, 1993
3:15 AM
Bath, UK

OUTER PLANET
Conjunction,Opposition,Square,Trine - 5'00
Sextile - 3'00
Semisquare,Sesquiquadrate,Quincunx,Semisextile,Quintile,Biquintile - 1'30

Mercury sextile Neptune - '42 in RA
Mercury parallel Neptune - '18
ME.NE.*
+ intuitive. highly perceptive. thinks in the abstract. has an active imagination. skilled at empathizing. has reliable hunches. future-oriented. interested in metaphysical factors. highly imaginative. daydreams. imitative.
Secret thoughts. Obscure conversation. Private communications. Discussion of the unknown. Intuitively-aided communication. Opinions about the future. Thoughts of the immaterial. Motion in the water or air. Acting ability.
- self-deceiving. deluded. deceptive. unreliable. absent-minded. forgetful. prone to misjudge.
Unclear ideas. Deceit in a discussion. Disillusionment due to a conversation. Uncertainty or unreliability in connection with communications. Confusion. To be resigned to fate.

Mercury sextile Uranus - '52 in RA
ME.UR.*
+ has quick reactions. sharp-witted. quick at repartee. original. open to new ideas. inquisitive. mentally resourceful. ingenious. eager to learn. progressive. intelligent. thinks intuitively. takes initiative. stimulating. gifted with rhythm. mobile. handy. Technician. Accountant. Reformer.
Sudden idea. Surprising conversation. Exciting discussion. Talk of an event. Thoughts about an adventure. Discussion of impulses or stimuli. Technical news. Telegram. Revolutionary concept. Rhythmic motion.
- hasty. rash. unsettled. impatient. hurried. short tempered. nervous.
Upsets or arguments in or about a discussion. Nervousness.

Uranus quincunx MC - '42 in RA
Uranus contraparallel MC - '33
MC.UR.*
+ intuitive. progressive. sizes up situations quickly. original. inclined to the unusual. averse to mediocrity. wishes to be unique. adventurous. reformist. technically inclined. has rhythm. future oriented.
My adventure. Surprise for me. To be in anticipation. My premonition. An event. Occurrence for me. To get excited.
- impulsive. self willed. tense; stressed. restless. unstable. fidgety. off-balance; erratic. unpredictable. easily upset. aggressive.
To be exposed to great tension. Unrest.

Uranus trine Asc - 4'59
AS.UR.*
+ intuitive. original. self willed. quick witted. interested in the unusual. wants to be unique. unpredictable. future oriented. able to make needed contacts. gifted with rhythm. reformist. technically skilled.
Sudden acquaintance. Surprising partnership. Adventures with the partner.
- easily upset. agitated. hectic. unstable. restless. turbulent.
Tensions in the environment. Unrest due to others.

OUTER PLANET MIDPOINT
Conjunction,Opposition only
orb: 1'30

Mercury conjunct Uranus/Asc - 1'26
AS.ME.UR.
+ intuitive. responds quickly. sharp-witted. quick to respond. inquisitive. inventive. spontaneous. future-oriented. expert, mathematically inclined, skilled with technology, or skilled at implementing reforms.
Surprising or unexpected communication with the partner. Sudden exchange of ideas. Adventurous train of thought. News about events in the environment. To speak of events at the place.
-derisive. hasty. impatient. nervous. short-tempered; touchy. hurried.
Agitated talk about others. To speak of tensions with the partner. Arguments or disputes.

Mercury conjunct Neptune/Asc - 1'26
AS.ME.NE.
+ intuitive. highly imaginative. daydreams. thinks abstractly. quick to figure things out. empathic. tacit; discreet. private; drawn to obscurities. socially withdrawn. interested in metaphysical factors.
Talk about secrets in the environment. Discussion of others' losses. News about deceit at the location.
- deluded. secretive. unreliable. hypocritical; insincere. illusory. babbles. unclear; ambiguous. difficult to contact.
Confusing ideas of the partner. To refuse to communicate. Thoughts of dissolution of a partnership. Uncertainty or ambiguity in communications.

Uranus conjunct Moon/Mercury - '10
MO.ME.UR.
+ intuitive. quick to size up situations. mentally agile. mentally resourceful. convincing. persuasive. original. quick-witted. eccentric. speaks in agitated manner. skilled with technology. gifted with rhythm. progressive. capable at astrology.
Nervous youthful woman. Surprises in communication with a woman. Unexpected discussion. Sudden idea. To think of a woman's adventure. The stimulation of youth. To speak excitedly. Discussion of or during eventful hours. Excitment in connection with young people. The technology of vehicles.
- self-willed. easily upset. restless. unpredictable. nervous. hysterical. disruptive.
Nervousness. Cerebral apoplexy. Upsetting news among the public. News about public tensions.

Neptune conjunct Moon/Mercury - '10
MO.ME.NE.
+ intuitive. highly imaginative. daydreams. private; drawn to obscurities. hesitates. mediumistic. preoccupied with metaphysical issues. capable at psychology.
Discussion of a obscure woman. To think about a woman's secrecy. Invisible vehicle.
- deluded. secretive. evasive. deceptive. indecisive. easily swayed. indifferent. apathetic. unrealistic. unconscious.
To talk about confusion due to the wife. Disillusioned young woman. Youthful insecurity. Disappointing speech among the public. To speak of public losses. Weak brain-power. Unreliable vehicle.

Uranus conjunct Moon/Mars - 1'05
MO.MA.UR.
+ emotionally dynamic. strong-willed. resolute. determined. unhesitating. spontaneous. progressive. inclined to do unusual things. has quick reactions. instinctive. Handyman. Technician. Reformer. Athlete.
Surprising activities of the wife. To act unexpectedly. Adventurous woman in action. Surprise about or due to a woman at work. Eventful working hours. Quick reaction. Surprise about public work. Reform work among the public. Technical work of a nation.
- self-willed. tense. precipitate. rash. intolerant. impatient. lacking in self-control. prone to emotional outbursts. short-tempered. hot-tempered. disputatious. emotionally impulsive.
To be troubled over the unexpected. To contribute to tensions with the wife. To cause nervousness. Action due to inner tension. Accident or catastrophe among the public. Surgery on a woman.

Neptune conjunct Moon/Mars - 1'05
MO.MA.NE.
+ instinctive. private; drawn to obscurities. elusive. interested in metaphysical factors. nonchalant. future-oriented. Aquatic athlete.
Activities of a private woman. Work or activity in private. To deal with liquids. Work in the air. Future work among the public. To work with gaseous or liquid substances. The future of a working nation.
- secretive. evasive. careless. unrealistic. passive. gives up easily. indifferent. contrary. feels inferior. hypersensitive. moody. short-tempered.
Actions of a secretive woman. Covert action. Person lacking in energy. To feign emotions. To participate in deception. To reject work. Mistake. Loss of work. Inaccuracy in working hours. Danger of infection. Atrophy of the brain. Public mistake. To contribute to the uncertainty of a nation.

Mars conjunct Neptune/Asc - 1'04
AS.MA.NE.
+ instinctive. surrounds oneself in mystery. future-oriented. esoterically guided. capable as a swimmer.
Activities of or with others in private. Others' unconscious behavior. To work for a future or futuristic partnership. Sacrifices made at the locale. Location of aquatic sports. Activities in the air.
- lacking will-power. lacking energy. lacking in accomplishment. resistant to work. lacking self-reliance; dependent. lacking self-control; lax. apprehensive. prone to denial. sly. undermining. potentially destructive. addiction-prone.
Others' irrational behavior. Mutual mistake. Uncertainty in the workplace. Disillusionment about a work partnership. Dissolution of an active association. To be manipulated. To be deceived. To disappoint someone. Loss of work at a place. Infection.

Mars conjunct Uranus/Asc - 1'04
AS.MA.UR.
+ high-spirited. progressive. energetic. active. handy. strong-willed. works quickly. capricious. progressive. technically inclined.
Others' surprising actions. Event in cooperative work. Adventure with a partner. To suddenly initiate a partnership. Others get excited about work. To contribute to the renewal of a place. Progressive activities at the location.
- impulsive. precipitate. stressful. lacking in self-control. hot-tempered. restless. tense. ruthless. forceful; sometimes violent. rebellious. accident-prone.
Tension in a workteam. To contribute of stress in the environs. To create unrest. To be injured.

MC oppose Mercury/Uranus - 1'05
MC.ME.UR.
+ has quick reactions. quick-witted. spontaneous. instinctive. astute. original. technically or mathematically inclined. has rhythm. progressive. reformist. future-oriented.
To think of surprises. Surprising discussion. Unexpected communication. Spontaneous speech. Discussion of an event. My spontaneous ideas. To get excited. Telephone call.
- self-willed. impatient. restless. short-tempered. nervous. hasty. rash. disruptive.
Upsetting news. Nervousness.

MC oppose Mercury/Neptune - 1'05
MC.ME.NE.
+ intuitive. highly perceptive. thinks in the abstract. highly imaginative. inventive. mediumistic. progressive.
Communication about secrets or mysteries. Discussion of the subconscious. Talk about loss or sacrifice. To think of the future. Discussion of metaphysical issues.
- deceptive. forgetful. unreliable. vague.
Uncertainty in speech. Unclear thoughts. Deceitful communication. Hazy ideas. Self-deception. Absentmindedness.

KUIPER BELT OBJECTS Eris,Pluto,Makemake,Haumea (dwarf planets)
Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Ixion,Varuna (dwarf planet candidates)
Conjunction,Opposition,Trine,Square - 3'00
Sextile - 2'00
Semisquare,Sesquiquadrate,Quincunx,Semisextile,Quintile,Biquintile - 1'00

keywords by Philip Sedgwick http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

Sun trine Varuna - '36

Moon sextile Sedna - '20 in RA

Moon quincunx Orcus - '45 ('25 in RA)

Stationary Retrograde Mercury conjunct Pluto - 2'01

Pluto sextile Asc - '58

Makemake conjunct Asc - '23 in RA
Makemake square MC - 2'48 in RA

Ixion sextile Asc - 1'29 in RA

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 24, 2011 02:25 PM            

OUTER PLANET

Sun conjunct Uranus - '23
Sun parallel Uranus - '01
SU.UR.*
+ intuitive. progressive. alert. animated. quick to comprehend. high-spirited. original. rhythmically gifted. technically skilled. reformist.
Stimulation due to a man. Humanitarian stimulus. Adventurous man. Event. Surprises. Exciting day. Years of reforms.
- impulsive. tense. self-willed. stressed. unstable. restless. unpredictable. nervous.
Stressful lifestyle. Physical tension or stress. Heart attack. Stroke.

Moon parallel Uranus - '55
MO.UR.*
+ intuitive. alert. readily aroused. quick to catch on. inclined to the unusual. spontaneous. original. unpredictable. progressive. has rhythm. technically inclined.
Event of or with a woman. To be stimulated. Eventful hours. To awaken.
- temperamental. self-willed. easily upset. impatient. irritable. unsettled. nervous. revolutionary.
Psychological tensions. Impulses of a woman. Cerebral apoplexy. Public unrest. Excited or agitated nation.

Sun parallel Neptune - '36
SU.NE.*
+ intuitive. sensitive. empathic. quick to figure things out. highly imaginative. daydreams. mediumistic. private; drawn to obscurities. future-oriented. delicate. interested in metaphysical factors.
Secretive person. Obscure man. The future of humanity. Physical fluidity. Gas balloon. Etheric source of vitality. Inspired man. Actor. Sailor.
- touchy. deluded. easily swayed. secretive. elusive. dishonest. deceitful. has a poor sense of direction. unrealistic. vulnerable. feeble. frail. dissatisfied. self-deluding.
Inner uncertainty; Instability. Lack of clarity. Deceit. Sacrifice. Unexciting circumstances. Physical weakness or vulnerability. The non-material aspects of a body or object. Disappointing day. Years of uncertainty. Loss or rejection of the husband.

Moon parallel Neptune - '17
MO.NE.*
+ empathic . intuitive. sensitive. tender. future-oriented. highly imaginative or visionary. private; drawn to obscurities. opaque. sensitive to the weather. interested in metaphysical factors. Actress.
Private or obscure woman. Intuitive person. Keen instincts. Things or feelings out of the subconscious or unconscious. Dreamlike state or conditions. The future of the public. Sacrifices of the public or nation. Air. Water. Homeopathy.
- semiconscious or unconscious. touchy. easily swayed. disillusioned. unrealistic. needful of protection. secretive. ambiguous. unstable. unreliable. vulnerable. impersonal. prone to feelings of inferiority. prone to sleepwalk. allergy prone.
Secretive woman. Allergy proneness. Deceit, disillusionment, or disappointment in relation to the wife. Emotional uncertainty or insecurity. Weakness of a woman. Public deception. Losses of the public or a nation.

Neptune sextile MC - '56
MC.NE.*
+ intuitive. sensitive. empathic. highly imaginative. tender. mediumistic. daydreams. future-oriented. interested in metaphysical factors. impersonal. objective.
To be prepared for the future. Personal sacrifice. The unknown or unrecognized. My sensitivity. Metaphysical factors and me.
- deluded. unstable. insecure.
overly delicate. easily swayed. elusive. unreliable. vulnerable. needful of protection. weak. prone to feelings of inferiority. unrealistic.
Inward confusion. Personal uncertainty or disillusionment. To refuse to accept something. To deny. To go astray. To be deluded. Deceit.
Personal loss.

Neptune contraparallel Asc - '44
AS.NE.*
+ sensitive. tender. empathic. intuitive. private; drawn to obscurities. mediumistic. interested in metaphysical factors. visionary. daydreams. elusive. imitative. socially withdrawn. future-oriented. progressive.
Casual contacts. Futuristic environment. In the air or water. Immaterial phenomena. The future of a place.
- touchy. secretive. deluded. uncertain. easily swayed. vulnerable. needful of protection. evasive. unrealistic. undependable. impersonal. self-disparaging.
Secretive partner. Ambiguity in the environment. Others' uncertainty. Unrecognized or unknown person. Lax relationships. Disillusionment due to a partner. Loss of partnership. Rejection of the partner. Others' weakness.

MIDPOINT

Sun conjunct Saturn/Neptune - '49
SU.SA.NE.
+ sensitive. empathic. deals with medical issues. cautious. skeptical. preoccupied with metaphysical factors or issues.
Dissolution of problems. Consideration of both material and non-material aspects of bodies or objects. Persistence of a devitalized person. Medical issues.
- devitalized. sickly. unstable. insecure. distrustful. negative in outlook. unimaginative. despondent. easily discouraged. ambiguous. unclear. insincere. underhanded. deceitful. false.
Disillusionment over the perseverance of a man. Denial of difficulties. Delays due to ambiguity. Sacrifices due to separation from a man. Continual uncertainty. Difficulties due to deceit. Physical illness. Unpleasant times. Days of contradictions. Years of medical problems. Instability in later years.

Moon conjunct Mars/Neptune - '02
MO.MA.NE.
+ sensitive. empathic. instinctive. private; drawn to obscurities. elusive. interested in metaphysical factors. nonchalant. future-oriented. Aquatic athlete.
Activities of a private woman. Work or activity in private. To deal with liquids. Work in the air. Future work among the public. To work with gaseous or liquid substances. The future of a working nation.
- secretive. evasive. careless. unrealistic. passive. gives up easily. indifferent. contrary. feels inferior. hypersensitive. moody. short-tempered.
Actions of a secretive woman. Covert action. Person lacking in energy. To feign emotions. To participate in deception. To reject work. Mistake. Loss of work. Inaccuracy in working hours. Danger of infection. Atrophy of the brain. Public mistake. To contribute to the uncertainty of a nation.

Mercury conjunct Mars/Neptune - '57
ME.MA.NE
+ intuitive. highly imaginative. resourceful. inventive. private. obscure. circumspect. future-oriented. works with metaphysical factors.
To put ideas into action intuitively. Talk of obscure activities. To enact progressive ideas. To proceed diplomatically. Preoccupied with nonmaterial themes. Pseudonyms.
- secretive. insincere. underhanded. shifty. deceitful. easily imposed upon. irresolute. hesitant. aimless. weak-willed. contrary.
To not keep promises. Words without action. Active business deceit. Discussion of mistakes. Deceiving course of a conversation. Plan without prospects. Deceitful intentions. Endless prattle. Weak brain functions.

Venus conjunct Moon/Uranus - '09
MO.VE.UR.
+ congenial. intuitive. makes contacts quickly. high-spirited. quick to catch on. drawn to the unusual. emotionally expressive. future-oriented. adventurous. capable at technical art. gifted with rhythm. has technical aptitude. innovative. Progressive artiste.
Sudden love of a woman. Unexpected attraction. Loving experience with the wife. Pleasant surprise. Pleasurable event. Surprising congeniality. Enjoyment of hours of excitement. Sudden peace or cooperation among the public. Dance. Art and technology among the public.
- self-willed in love. impulsive. agitated. discordant. easily upset. hysterical. presumptous. disruptive.
Tense or stressful circumstances in love.

Venus conjunct Mercury/Uranus - '20
ME.VE.UR.
+ mentally resourceful. quick-witted. witty. original. inventive. lively and rhythmic. skilled with mathematics or technology. future-oriented. communicates revolutionary concepts agreeably. interested in song, music, and dance. intuits artistic concepts. Composer.
Surprising acquaintance. Sudden encounter. Unexpected harmonious discussion. To speak of enjoyable experiences. Stimulating sharing of ideas. Thoughts of a surprising attraction. Pleasant surprising news. Surprise over artistic ideas. Dance.
- mentally erratic.
Discussion of tensions in love.

KUIPER BELT

Moon sesquiquadrate Eris - '09
Moon biquintile Eris - '22 in RA

Mercury sesquiquadrate Eris - 1'09 (9 minutes over)
Mercury biquintile Eris - '23 in RA

Eris semisquare MC - '33 in RA
Eris parallel MC - '40

Sedna sextile Asc - 1'27 ('57 in RA)

Pluto trine MC - 2'35

Pluto trine Asc - 1'16 in RA

Sun oppose Varuna - 2'25

Moon square Makemake - 1'22
Moon quintile Makemake - '02 in RA

Mercury square Makemake - 2'22
Mercury quintile Makemake - '03 in RA

Makemake oppose MC - 2'10

Sun contraparallel Haumea - '01

Haumea parallel Asc - '06

Orcus quincunx MC - '43

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 24, 2011 02:26 PM            

OUTER PLANET

Mercury conjunct Neptune - 2'58
ME.NE.*
+ intuitive. highly perceptive. thinks in the abstract. has an active imagination. skilled at empathizing. has reliable hunches. future-oriented. interested in metaphysical factors. highly imaginative. daydreams. imitative.
Secret thoughts. Obscure conversation. Private communications. Discussion of the unknown. Intuitively-aided communication. Opinions about the future. Thoughts of the immaterial. Motion in the water or air. Acting ability.
- self-deceiving. deluded. deceptive. unreliable. absent-minded. forgetful. prone to misjudge.
Unclear ideas. Deceit in a discussion. Disillusionment due to a conversation. Uncertainty or unreliability in connection with communications. Confusion. To be resigned to fate.

Uranus sesquiquadrate Asc - '01
AS.UR.*
+ intuitive. original. self willed. quick witted. interested in the unusual. wants to be unique. unpredictable. future oriented. able to make needed contacts. gifted with rhythm. reformist. technically skilled.
Sudden acquaintance. Surprising partnership. Adventures with the partner.
- easily upset. agitated. hectic. unstable. restless. turbulent.
Tensions in the environment. Unrest due to others.

Neptune sesquiquadrate MC - 1'09 in RA
MC.NE.*
+ intuitive. sensitive. empathic. highly imaginative. tender. mediumistic. daydreams. future-oriented. interested in metaphysical factors. impersonal. objective.
To be prepared for the future. Personal sacrifice. The unknown or unrecognized. My sensitivity. Metaphysical factors and me.
- deluded. unstable. insecure.
overly delicate. easily swayed. elusive. unreliable. vulnerable. needful of protection. weak. prone to feelings of inferiority. unrealistic.
Inward confusion. Personal uncertainty or disillusionment. To refuse to accept something. To deny. To go astray. To be deluded. Deceit.
Personal loss.

MIDPOINT

Neptune conjunct Moon/Jupiter - '34
MO.JU.NE.
+ intuitive. cheerful. carefree. playful. highly imaginative. visionary. sentimental. sensitive. empathic. future-oriented. enjoys speculating. motivated by non-material concerns. esoteric. private. obscure.
Future happiness of or with the wife. Apparent luck. Pleasant dream. Satisfaction due to sensitivity. Benefits due to esoteric perceptions. Carefree hours. Fortunate future of a nation.
- prone to gamble. emotionally biased. poor at handling money. irresponsible. wasteful. extravagant. easily swayed. unrealistic. secretive. unfair.
Uncertain financial circumstances. Speculation. Lost luck of or due to a woman. Failure among the public. Financial loss due to a woman or among the public. Injustice for people.

Neptune conjunct Moon/Uranus - '19
MO.UR.NE.
+ feels stimuli from the unconscious. intuitive. highly perceptive. sensitive. future-oriented. relaxing. resourceful. inventive. interested in the occult. mediumistic.
Relaxation of emotional tension. Impulses of an intuitive woman. Inspiration. Hour of relaxation of tension. Sudden suspense among the public. Dealings with obscure technology.
- reacts unconsciously. unpredictable. contrary. readily exhausted. indecisive. touchy.
Sudden uncertainty. Tensions in relation to a weak woman. Upset over deceit. Unexpected ambiguity. Surprising sensitivity. Pointless excitement or expectation. Stimulation or upset during sleep.

Neptune conjunct Moon/Venus - '41
MO.VE.NE.
+ intuitive. unselfish. altruistic. tactful. likes privacy. daydreams. sentimental. empathic. future-oriented. enraptured. playful. capable at acting. musically inclined.
Subtle love of the wife. Love of an intuitive woman. Sympathy or or for a delicate or sensitive person. In joyful expectation. Sacrifices of a loving woman. Futuristic hobbies. Enjoyment due to public uncertainty. Inspiring or futuristic art.
- touchy. easily swayed. easily imposed upon. frail. deluded. fanatical. effusive. unrealistic. moody. sometimes addiction-prone. inharmonious or uncongenial.
Concealment of affection of or for a woman. Uncertainty of affections. Disillusionment or disappointment in love. Loss of a beloved woman. Dissatisfaction among the public.

Neptune conjunct Mercury/Venus - 1'04
ME.VE.NE.
+ inspired. imaginative in speaking and writing. empathic. subtle. aesthetically conscious. daydreams. charmed. delighted. romantic. future-oriented. interested in non-concrete or abstract topics and themes.
Secret encounter. Romantic inclinations.
- fanatical. gushing. deluded. superficial. unrealistic. disloyal. unstable. inconstant.
Fleeting acquaintance. Fanaticism in love. Loves to spin yarns. Discussion of doubtful relationships. Inharmonious discussion. Fruitless hopes. Disappointing encounter.

Neptune conjunct Mercury/Jupiter - 1'12
ME.JU.NE
+ inspired. highly sensitive. highly imaginative. idyllic. future-oriented. playful. has acting ability.
Secret thoughts of prosperity. Just or fair ideas about the future. To arouse hope. Ideas about easily earned money. Discussion of injustice. Irrigation business. Commerce involving photography, cinema, beverages, aquatics, or aerial phenomena.
- cunning. deluded. unrealistic. thoughtless with money. often judges unfairly. fawning. crafty. sly.
To surrender to an illusion of wealth. Talk about financial losses. Increasing deceit in communications. Business losses.

Mercury conjunct Moon/Neptune - '17
MO.ME.NE.
+ intuitive. highly imaginative. daydreams. private; drawn to obscurities. hesitates. mediumistic. preoccupied with metaphysical issues. capable at psychology.
Discussion of a obscure woman. To think about a woman's secrecy. Invisible vehicle.
- deluded. secretive. evasive. deceptive. indecisive. easily swayed. indifferent. apathetic. unrealistic. unconscious.
To talk about confusion due to the wife. Disillusioned young woman. Youthful insecurity. Disappointing speech among the public. To speak of public losses. Weak brain-power. Unreliable vehicle.

Uranus conjunct Sun/Mercury - '47
SU.ME.UR.
+ has quick responses. astute. quick-witted. has a sharp intellect. highly perceptive. inquisitive. has initiative. original. inventive. high-spirited. hurried. progressive. reformist. technically inclined. skilled at math. gifted with rhythm. has dancing talent. has potential as an astrologer. future-oriented.
Rapid comprehension. To talk about an event with the husband. Adventurous ideas of a man. Surprising communication. Progressive thinking. Unexpected news. Telegram. Exciting communication on a given day. Years of spontaneous ideas.
- derisive. spasmodic. impulsive. rash. lacking in patience. unsettled. irritable. nervous. disruptive.
Revolt of youth. Disruptive thinking. Nervous man. Discussion of tension between men.

Uranus conjunct Sun/Moon - '59
SU.MO.UR.
+ enthusiastic. individualistic. intuits quickly. ingenious. unique. magnetic.
Interesting partnership. Mutual stimulation. Adventures with each other. To live an exciting life. Days or years with eventful hours. Surprise among the public about a person. One partner surprises the other.
- emotionally erratic. shocking. disruptive.
Tensions with each other. One partner upsets the other. Wanderlust undermines unity.

Uranus oppose Asc/MC - 1'26
MC.AS.UR.
+ intuitive. sizes up situations quickly. inclined to the unusual. original. unpredictable. gifted with rhythm. technically inclined. innovative. progressive.
Personal adventures with the partner. Professional event. Our adventure.
- self-willed. non-committal. temperamental. unsteady. unsettled. restless. agitated. rebellious.
Tensions in the environment due to me. To be involved in "creating a scene".

KUIPER BELT

Sun sextile Eris - '54

Moon square Eris - '05 in RA

Varuna parallel MC - '09

Sun quintile Quaoar - '19

Moon parallel Ixion - '03

Sedna parallel Asc - '54

Ixion quintile Asc - '20

Sun sextile Makemake - '54

Makemake sextile MC - '33

Mercury contraparallel Haumea - '08

Sun sesquiquadrate Varuna - '01 in RA

Quaoar quintile Asc - '51 in RA

Orcus sextile MC - '57 in RA

Mercury trine Makemake - '11 in RA

Haumea trine MC - 1'36 in RA

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 24, 2011 02:27 PM            

OUTER PLANET

Sun sextile Neptune - '47
SU.NE.*
+ intuitive. sensitive. empathic. quick to figure things out. highly imaginative. daydreams. mediumistic. private; drawn to obscurities. future-oriented. delicate. interested in metaphysical factors.
Secretive person. Obscure man. The future of humanity. Physical fluidity. Gas balloon. Etheric source of vitality. Inspired man. Actor. Sailor.
- touchy. deluded. easily swayed. secretive. elusive. dishonest. deceitful. has a poor sense of direction. unrealistic. vulnerable. feeble. frail. dissatisfied. self-deluding.
Inner uncertainty; Instability. Lack of clarity. Deceit. Sacrifice. Unexciting circumstances. Physical weakness or vulnerability. The non-material aspects of a body or object. Disappointing day. Years of uncertainty. Loss or rejection of the husband.

Moon conjunct Neptune - 4'44
MO.NE.*
+ empathic . intuitive. sensitive. tender. future-oriented. highly imaginative or visionary. private; drawn to obscurities. opaque. sensitive to the weather. interested in metaphysical factors. Actress.
Private or obscure woman. Intuitive person. Keen instincts. Things or feelings out of the subconscious or unconscious. Dreamlike state or conditions. The future of the public. Sacrifices of the public or nation. Air. Water. Homeopathy.
- semiconscious or unconscious. touchy. easily swayed. disillusioned. unrealistic. needful of protection. secretive. ambiguous. unstable. unreliable. vulnerable. impersonal. prone to feelings of inferiority. prone to sleepwalk. allergy prone.
Secretive woman. Allergy proneness. Deceit, disillusionment, or disappointment in relation to the wife. Emotional uncertainty or insecurity. Weakness of a woman. Public deception. Losses of the public or a nation.

Moon parallel Uranus - '42
MO.UR.*
+ intuitive. alert. readily aroused. quick to catch on. inclined to the unusual. spontaneous. original. unpredictable. progressive. has rhythm. technically inclined.
Event of or with a woman. To be stimulated. Eventful hours. To awaken.
- temperamental. self-willed. easily upset. impatient. irritable. unsettled. nervous. revolutionary.
Psychological tensions. Impulses of a woman. Cerebral apoplexy. Public unrest. Excited or agitated nation.

Uranus contraparallel Asc - '35
AS.UR.*
+ intuitive. original. self willed. quick witted. interested in the unusual. wants to be unique. unpredictable. future oriented. able to make needed contacts. gifted with rhythm. reformist. technically skilled.
Sudden acquaintance. Surprising partnership. Adventures with the partner.
- easily upset. agitated. hectic. unstable. restless. turbulent.
Tensions in the environment. Unrest due to others.

Neptune contraparallel Asc - '55
AS.NE.*
+ sensitive. tender. empathic. intuitive. private; drawn to obscurities. mediumistic. interested in metaphysical factors. visionary. daydreams. elusive. imitative. socially withdrawn. future-oriented. progressive.
Casual contacts. Futuristic environment. In the air or water. Immaterial phenomena. The future of a place.
- touchy. secretive. deluded. uncertain. easily swayed. vulnerable. needful of protection. evasive. unrealistic. undependable. impersonal. self-disparaging.
Secretive partner. Ambiguity in the environment. Others' uncertainty. Unrecognized or unknown person. Lax relationships. Disillusionment due to a partner. Loss of partnership. Rejection of the partner. Others' weakness.

MIDPOINT

Sun conjunct Uranus/Asc - '13
AS.SU.UR.
+ intuitive. high-spirited. quick to size up situations. inclined to the unusual. drawn to the new. eager to make contact. unpredictable. future-oriented. gifted with rhythm. skilled at technology. progressive.
Stimulus due to a man. To stimulate the environment. Others surprise. Shared event. Surprise about someone in the immediate environment. Exciting day. Eventful years. - impulsive. non-committal. temperamental. unsettled. restless. inconstant. frantic. self-absorbed. rebellious.
Tension with the male partner. Mutual tension. Irritability.

Jupiter conjunct Mercury/Neptune - '15
ME.JU.NE
+ inspired. highly sensitive. highly imaginative. idyllic. future-oriented. playful. has acting ability.
Secret thoughts of prosperity. Just or fair ideas about the future. To arouse hope. Ideas about easily earned money. Discussion of injustice. Irrigation business. Commerce involving photography, cinema, beverages, aquatics, or aerial phenomena.
- cunning. deluded. unrealistic. thoughtless with money. often judges unfairly. fawning. crafty. sly.
To surrender to an illusion of wealth. Talk about financial losses. Increasing deceit in communications. Business losses.

Moon conjunct Neptune/MC - '54
MC.MO.NE.
+ tender. sensitive. empathic. highly imaginative. daydreams. future-oriented. interested in metaphysical factors. intuitive. hesitates. needful of protection. sensitive to the weather. responds well to homeopathy. capable at acting.
To prepare oneself for the future. Actor. Clairvoyant. Metaphysician.
- impressionable. deluded. indecisive. unrealistic. unclear; ambiguous. deceptive. confused. lacking in self-restraint. self-disparaging. allergy-prone. prone to sleep-walk. feeble. easily swayed.
My weak wife. Disillusionment due to the wife. To be reticent or secretive. To give up illusions. Deceit. Unconsciousness. Uncertain times. Ambiguity among the public. Losses.

Neptune conjunct Uranus/MC - 1'04
MC.UR.NE.
+ intuitive. responds to semiconscious impulses. intellectually original. inventive. imaginative. daydreams. mediumistic. imperceptible. interested in occultism. future-oriented.
Dissolution of my tensions. My intuition. My subconscious. Contact with the future.
- deluded. tires easily. contrary. inclined to refuse or reject.
Denial of my adventures. Surprising uncertainty. Sudden confusion. Unexpected deceit. Surprise over falsehood. Pointless excitement. Chaos. To be suddenly rejected. Checkmate. My unconsciousness.

KUIPER BELT

Mercury conjunct Eris - 1'35

Mercury contraparallel Pluto - '59

Pluto semisquare MC - '58

Sun square Varuna - 2'38

Sun trine Ixion - '39

Mercury sesquiquadrate Quaoar - '54

Sun sesquiquadrate Orcus - '36

Mercury trine Orcus - 2'06

Sun oppose Haumea - 2'13

Eris square MC - 2'45 in RA

Varuna semisquare MC - '01 in RA

Moon trine Makemake - '55 in RA

Makemake trine MC - 1'26 in RA

Mercury oppose Haumea - 2'27 in RA

Haumea biquintile Asc - '31 in RA

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posted January 24, 2011 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by blonderiverkat:
Very interesting topic holly, and it affects me being that I have several very 'special' young souls in my life...However something tells me that this topic will be moved to another forum...

Kat

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This topic won't be moved to another forum.

It's astrological now.

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posted January 24, 2011 02:36 PM            

I joined the wrongplanet.net forums this summer because I believe I have Aspergers, everything about it clicked about how I am now and how I was while growing up.

posted January 24, 2011 02:51 PM            

My youngest has had alot of problems, but at 16 has made great strides this past year, especially the past 7 or 8 months...they said that he was ADHD...wrong..
Both of my boys always stood up for their rights from a very young age, and it got them into trouble in school...to 'society' syanding up for your rights as a 'youngster', equals disrespect...especially in the educational system...they have both had suicide attempts, when taking the meds prescribed for 'bipolar' disorder, depression, ADHD and such...my oldest grandson has been diagnosed with Aspbergers, smart as a whip, and a very 'special' soul...I feel society doesn't understand and feels the need to 'label' those who are different...
Do me a favor and take a look at this chart if you would please...

Since this is your area of expertise...thank you for another invaluable lesson...

Kat

posted January 24, 2011 03:14 PM            

It's astrological now.

Good job Glac!

posted January 24, 2011 03:18 PM            

that means that the emotional nature,feelings,instincts,feminine nature (Moon) are in friction with (square) the ego,self expression,vitality, masculine nature (Sun), and the independence,unconventional,change (Uranus) and dissolution,inspiration,idealism (Neptune)

so basically the emotional nature and ego are highly idealistic,unconventional,unusual

a highly metaphysically oriented type of person

The Neptune aspects to the Sun and Moon indicate an ultrasensitivity person (can be a psychic sponge)
and with those being hard Neptune aspects, it can indicate oversensitivity to environmental influences leading to strong reactions to medications. It can also indicate possible misdiagnoses.
Confusion,deception,escapism have to be avoided.

The hard Uranus aspects to the Sun and Moon can indicate a person with a great amount of nervous energy. It could indicate somebody that be a bit high strung to the point that he can be too restless. he could be too rebellious for his own good

Because the Sun and Moon are involved, it could also involve the mother and father.

The t-square aspects the Midheaven/Imum Coeli , and so aim in life,domestic environment is also involved.

This a person who is meant to be self employed. He won't be happy being placed under somebody's authority. He will not like working for other people. He will have to be his own boss, and he could be in a career that is unusual and may not fit the mainstream.

His Sun is not only oppose Uranus-Neptune conjunction, it's also contraparallel a Uranus-Neptune parallel
Therefore he has a Sun-Uranus-Neptune occultation.

I will go over more of his chart later.

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posted January 24, 2011 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by mochai:
Just curious glaucus, do you have various aspects that you look for to determine indigo or did you know the above mentioned people had indigo auras at the outset?

I still don't know that it was them per se. I was high on kundalini and seeing a whole lot. It was always next to me on my left side (the better side of influence for such things). I also started feeling very violent around that time and my visions were obviously distorted. Now I'm pretty sure the same thing is stuck in my 3rd eye. It's a really long story, but I've gotten some validation that it's still there from my autistic step-brother (he's very psychic). There's a shaman I'll see about it as soon as he's back in the country.

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that was Mary English's article
and not mine

the 4 posts of my going over the aspects after hers was in rebuttal to her article

It seems that people that fit the Indigos,Crystals,lightworkers,Earth Angels have both strong outerplanet and strong transneptunian influences

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posted January 24, 2011 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Fluke2305:
A little OT, but I seem to remember you mentioning having an account on wrongplanet.net, Glaucus..? May I ask what your username there is? Are you active on the forums?

I joined the wrongplanet.net forums this summer because I believe I have Aspergers, everything about it clicked about how I am now and how I was while growing up.

But try convincing the psychiatric community that an adult female who has a child and is able to hold down a job could possibly be an undiagnosed aspie..! *sigh*

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I have an account there, but I hardly post there

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posted January 24, 2011 03:40 PM            

Kat

posted January 24, 2011 03:43 PM            

Indigo children is a pseudoscientific[1] label given to children who are claimed to possess special, unusual and/or supernatural traits or abilities. The idea is based on New Age concepts developed in the 1970s by Nancy Ann Tappe. The concept of indigo children gained popular interest with the publication of a series of books in the late 1990s and the release of several films in the following decade. A variety of books, conferences and related materials have been created surrounding belief in the idea of indigo children and their nature and abilities. These beliefs range from their being the next stage in human evolution or possessing paranormal abilities such as telepathy to the belief that they are simply more empathic and creative than their peers.

Although there are no scientific studies to give credibility to the existence of any indigo children, or their traits, the phenomenon appeals to some parents whose children have been diagnosed with learning disabilities and parents seeking to believe that their children are special. This is viewed by skeptics as a way for parents to avoid proper (and generally pharmaceutical) pediatric treatment or a psychiatric diagnosis which implies imperfection. The list of traits used to describe the children has also been criticized for being vague enough to be applied to almost anyone, a form of the Forer effect. The phenomenon has been criticized as a means of making money from credulous parents through the sales of related products and services.
Contents
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* 1 Origins
* 2 Characteristics
o 2.1 Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder
* 3 Criticism
* 4 Commercialization
* 5 References
* 6 External links

[edit] Origins

The term "indigo children" originates with parapsychologist and self-described synesthete and psychic, Nancy Ann Tappe who developed the concept in the 1970s. Tappe published the book Understanding Your Life Through Color in 1982 describing the concept,[2] stating that during the mid 1960s she began noticing that many children were being born with "indigo" auras[3][4] (in other publications Tappe has said the color indigo came from the "life colors" of the children which she acquired through her synesthesia[5]). The idea was later popularized by the 1998 book The Indigo Children: The New Kids Have Arrived, written by husband and wife self-help lecturers Lee Carroll and Jan Tober.[6] The promotion of the concept by Tober and Carroll brought greater publicity to the topic, soon their book became the primary source on "indigo children". They describe the goal of indigo children to be a remaking of the world into one lacking war, trash and processed food.

In 2002, an international conference on indigo children was held in Hawaii, drawing 600 attendees, with subsequent conferences the following years in Florida and Oregon. The concept was popularized and spread further by a feature film and documentary released in 2005, both directed by James Twyman, a New Age writer.[7]

Susan W. Whedon suggests in an 2009 article in Nova Religio that the social construction of Indigo Children is a response to an "apparent crisis of American childhood."[3] Whedon explains that the crisis is evident in the increase in "diagnoses of ADD and ADHD in American children", and that "heightened awareness of youth violence" caused parents to "take matters in their own hands."[3] Parents began medicating and diagnosing their offspring as Indigo Children as a means of "redeeming"[3] them for their improper behavior stemming from ADD and ADHD.[3]
[edit] Characteristics

Descriptions of indigo children include the belief that they are empathetic, curious, strong-willed, independent, and often perceived by friends and family as being strange; possess a clear sense of self-definition and purpose; and also exhibit a strong inclination towards spiritual matters from early childhood. Indigo children have also been described as having a strong feeling of entitlement, or "deserving to be here." Other alleged traits include a high intelligence quotient, an inherent intuitive ability, and resistance to authority.[4][6] According to Tober and Carroll, indigo children function poorly in conventional schools due to their rejection of authority, being smarter than their teachers, and a lack of response to guilt-, fear- or manipulation-based discipline.[7]
[edit] Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder

Many children labelled indigo by their parents are diagnosed with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)[8] and Tober and Carroll's book The Indigo Children linked the concept with diagnosis of ADHD. Their book makes the case that the children are a new stage of evolution rather than children with a medical diagnosis, and that they require special treatment rather than medications.[6] Robert Todd Carroll points out that labeling a child an indigo is an alternative to a diagnosis that implies imperfection, damage or mental illness, which may appeal to many parents, a belief echoed by many academic psychologists.[8] He also points out that many of the commentators on the indigo phenomenon are of varying qualifications and expertise. Linking the concept of indigo children with the distaste for the use of Ritalin to control ADHD, Carroll states "The hype and near-hysteria surrounding the use of Ritalin has contributed to an atmosphere that makes it possible for a book like Indigo Children to be taken seriously. Given the choice, who wouldn't rather believe their children are special and chosen for some high mission rather than that they have a brain disorder?"[9]

Stephen Hinshaw, a professor of psychology at the University of California, Berkeley, states that concerns regarding the overmedicalization of children are legitimate but even gifted children with ADHD learn better with more structure rather than less, even if the structure initially causes difficulties. Many labeled as indigo children are or have been home schooled.[4]
[edit] Criticism

According to research psychologist Russell Barkley, the New Age movement has yet to produce empirical evidence of the existence of indigo children, as the 17 traits most commonly attributed to them were akin to the Forer effect (i.e., so vague they could describe nearly anyone). Many critics see the concept of indigo children as made up of extremely general traits, a sham diagnosis that is an alternative to a medical diagnosis, with a complete lack of science or studies to support it.[4][8] The lack of scientific foundation is acknowledged by some believers, including Doreen Virtue, author of The Care and Feeding of Indigos, and James Twyman, who produced two films on Indigo Children and who offers materials and courses related to the phenomenon. Virtue has been criticized for claiming to have a Ph.D., despite this being awarded by California Coast University, a then-unaccredited institution sometimes accused of being a diploma mill.[7]

Mental health experts are concerned that labeling a disruptive child an "Indigo" may delay proper diagnosis and treatment that could help the child.[4][7] Others have stated that many of the traits of indigo children could be more prosaically interpreted as simple unruliness and alertness.[8]

In a Dallas Observer article discussing Indigo children, a reporter recorded the following interaction between a man who worked with Indigo children, and a purported Indigo child:
“ "Are you an indigo?" he asked Dusk. The boy looked at him shyly and nodded. "I'm an avatar," Dusk said. "I can recognize the four elements of earth, wind, water and fire. The next avatar won't come for 100 years." The man seemed impressed.[7] ”

Readers of the Dallas Observer later wrote in to inform the newspaper that the child's response appeared to be taken from the storyline of Avatar: The Last Airbender, an animated series showing on Nickelodeon at the time of the interview. The editor of the Dallas Observer later admitted they were not aware of the possible connection until readers brought it to their attention.[10]

Nick Colangelo, a University of Iowa professor specializing in the education of gifted children, stated that the first indigo book should not have been published, and that "...[t]he Indigo Children movement is not about children, and it is not about the color indigo. It is about adults who style themselves as experts and who are making money on books, presentations and videos."[7]
[edit] Commercialization

According to Lorie Anderson's article "Indigo: The Color of Money", belief in indigo children has significant commercial value due to sales of book, video, and one-on-one counseling session for children, as well as in donations and speaking engagements.[11] There are now a wide variety of books, films, summer camps and conferences that are aimed at parents who believe their children are indigos. The two films produced on the subject were both by James Twyman, who sells a variety of indigo-themed courses, clothing, books, CDs and movies.[7]
[edit] References

1. ^ Stenger, Victor J. (1998-06). "Reality Check: the energy fields of life". Committee for Skeptical Inquiry.
2. ^ Tappe, NA (1986). Understanding your life through color: Metaphysical concepts in color and aura. Starling Publishers. ISBN 0-940399-00-8.
3. ^ a b c d e Whedon, Sarah W. (2009-02). "The Wisdom of Indigo Children: An Emphatic Restatement of the Value of American Children" (PDF). Nova Religio 12 (3): 60–76. doi:10.1525/nr.2009.12.3.60. http://caliber.ucpress.net/doi/pdfplus/10.1525/nr.2009.12.3.60. Retrieved 2010-06-25.
4. ^ a b c d e Leland, J (2006-01-12). "Are They Here to Save the World?". The New York Times. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/12/fashion/thursdaystyles/12INDIGO.html?ei=5088&en=277fb750ad762ed9&ex=1294722000&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=all. Retrieved 2009-04-15.
5. ^ Tappe, NA. "All About Indigos - A Nancy Tappe Website". http://www.allaboutindigos.com/. Retrieved 2009-04-15.
6. ^ a b c Tober J & Carroll LA (1999). The Indigo Children: The New Kids Have Arrived. Light Technology Publishing. ISBN 1-56170-608-6.
7. ^ a b c d e f g Hyde, J (2006-03-09). "Little Boy Blue". Dallas Observer. http://www.dallasobserver.com/2006-03-09/news/little-boy-blue/full. Retrieved 2009-04-15.
8. ^ a b c d Jayson, S (2005-05-31). "Indigo kids: Does the science fly?". USA Today. http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2005-05-31-indigo-kids_x.htm. Retrieved 2007-10-23.
9. ^ Carroll, RT (2009-02-23). "Indigo child". The Skeptic's Dictionary. http://skepdic.com/indigo.html. Retrieved 2009-04-13.
10. ^ "Letters to the Dallas Observer". Dallas Observer. 2006-03-16. http://www.dallasobserver.com/2006-03-16/news/new-age-mumbo-jumbo/full. Retrieved 2007-10-23.
11. ^ Anderson, L (2003-12-01). "Indigo: the color of money". Selectsmart.com. http://www.selectsmart.com/twyman.html. Retrieved 2010-09-24.

[edit] External links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_children

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posted January 24, 2011 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by holly:
What are everyone's thoughts on indigo children? Real/fiction? And if you believe in them, what do you think their purpose is?

This is supposed to be the year of the indigo... I feel like we're overdue for a creative explosion.

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i have heard of this....one of my teachers said she thinks i am one of them....i didnt realize until just a couple days ago that she could have had the ability to see auras and i know because of my dear friend LEXX that i do have indigo aura...my teacher told me i have indigo aura years before LEXX did