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RunAroundScreaming
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posted June 24, 2012 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh i read about that, too. But i read that it just makes us really intense about everything we do and that it makes us easily obsessed about things. I def don't like to do things halfway.

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posted June 24, 2012 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Oh i read about that, too. But i read that it just makes us really intense about everything we do and that it makes us easily obsessed about things. I def don't like to do things halfway.


Yes its either all or nothing for me aswell I don't like half doing anything.Ive enjoyed chatting with you its been awesome.I told my bestie about you she was like "no way you met someone born the same exact day as you and year!!!"

She couldn't believe it either thought I would never meet my astro twin.This has been an eye opening experince.

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posted June 24, 2012 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it was a pleasure talking to you! i never thought i'd meet my astro twin either =) yay

What's your email? I'll add you so we can stay in touch

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posted June 24, 2012 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
it was a pleasure talking to you! i never thought i'd meet my astro twin either =) yay

What's your email? I'll add you so we can stay in touch


Here's my email
yes definitely keep in touch !

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posted June 24, 2012 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
it was a pleasure talking to you! i never thought i'd meet my astro twin either =) yay

What's your email? I'll add you so we can stay in touch


Here's my email
yes definitely keep in touch !

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posted June 24, 2012 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have heavy Saturn in my natal, as well as three planets in my tenth house, including my Sun and chart ruler, and Saturn itself. I need Saturn in my relationships. Practically all of them are Saturn-heavy. You did the composite/synastry with me and my best friend and we have a Saturn-heavy relationship. There were times when, yes, I did stick by her out of obligation and felt a "duty" to her even though we should've stopped being friends. And I did debate leaving her. But, I stuck through it. And I'm glad I did. because I can count on her to be my rock, but also, because we have a great time together. I don't feel like our relationship is dark or depressing at all. We're silly and optimistic together. We've gotten past tough moments (because of her ex, really, tbh), and now I think we are reaping Saturn's rewards after over 10 years of friendship.

I agree that Saturn can keep people together when they should really break up. It can lead to depressing relationships and depressed individuals as consequence.

I'm in a new relationship that has some Saturn going on. We have mutual Saturn-Jupiter (my Saturn squares his Jupiter; his Saturn opposes my Jupiter). But we also have DW Venus-Jupiter as our two closest aspects and I think this really by far beats out Saturn. It may be too soon to tell, though. We also have his Saturn squaring my Saturn and my Sun. Saturn is his chart ruler, however, so I think this can have a bit more of a positive spin than usual.

In the composite, Saturn is conjunct Pluto and square mars, sextile nEPTUNE, as well as widely conjunct the MC (5 degrees). I'll let you know how it works out.

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Listen up. I don't know much about astrology, but I do know that my Saturn Sextiles her Chiron by 2-1/2 degrees and her Saturn Sextiles my Chiron by 1/2 degree. It's just one obvious Double Whammy. There are more. My marriage is very strong. It'll be two decades next year. I don't see how Saturn is bad.


I think what RAS means by "heavy Saturn" is squares and oppositions and possibly conjunctions of Saturn with personal planets, even stronger if in a DW.
(Hopefully she will correct me if I am wrong).


You have a lot of harmonious aspects with Saturn, which of course makes your relationship Saturnian one, but mildly. Instead of harsh criticism you get stability and commitment.

(I am just paraphrasing what I think RAS is meaning. and of course I could have gotten it all wrong.)

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posted June 25, 2012 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I think what RAS means by "heavy Saturn" is squares and oppositions and possibly conjunctions of Saturn with personal planets, even stronger if in a DW.
(Hopefully she will correct me if I am wrong).

Yep, thank you, Ceri. Exactly what I meant

And YTA its okay i still love you lol
You have a lot of harmonious aspects with Saturn, which of course makes your relationship Saturnian one, but mildly. Instead of harsh criticism you get stability and commitment.

(I am just paraphrasing what I think RAS is meaning. and of course I could have gotten it all wrong.)

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posted September 17, 2012 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in relationships can be quite annoying. I'm talking hard aspects here (conjs, squares, oppositions).

This whole hanging on for dear life just makes me want to pull out my hair. And I REALLY don't like people who don't know what it means to let a person go.

Honestly, I want this person to leave me alone, to stop coming by asking me for things, stop looking for my approval, stop trying to hold on to who I was when we were little. Just STOP and let the heck go.

My God.

Yes, Saturn heavy relationships requires work. But I can only want to work on it if I have respect for the person...

And that, I no longer have.


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posted January 30, 2013 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alysama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay all this Saturn stuff has got me interested. I still don't understand what mutual aspects are and what good aspects are. Are conjunctions good?
Well I'm still fairly new here but hopefully you guys and give me some tips/ insight on my synastry and composite with some guy. It doesnt look good either.
Synastry:
His: Saturn in Capricorn, house 1
Saturn conjuncts my saturn, mars, venus and Neptune
Me: Saturn in Capricorn, house 10
Saturn conjuncts his Saturn and Neptune
Saturn sextile his Pluto
Composite: 11th house in Capricorn with sun, Venus, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune
So is this relationship doomed?

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posted January 30, 2013 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
I, for one, am going to stay away from those. In fact, if my Saturn squares or opposes something, I most certainly NOT like the person at all. I noticed I am quite intolerant towards early Leos, Bulls and Aquas (0-5 deg or so) but they can grow on me if I let them. Maybe I shouldn't though... Got burned by a Leo sister, we had Sat sq Sun double whammy and the drama it developed into... I know they are growth aspects and all, but hmph I think I am grown enough lmao. Could use some fun aspects instead ^_^

Hey Hera, how'd that double whammy of Sun square Saturn manifest with you guys?

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posted January 06, 2014 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for incognito     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry to bump this old thread but...this is brilliant. I just cant disbelieve astrology anymore when those were the exact words my ex roomate would say to me every time i went to do something. she was saturn i was mars.

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not like that...that's not how saturn squares work..

Saturn represses out of fear. and covers up that fear with the excuse that it is really loyal. But in reality, the quality of that person's planet scares saturn. For example mars square saturn....the saturn person is secretly envious of the mars' person's energy and spontaneity and because they feel insecure about their ability to keep up with it they tell em "hey slow down, you're way too impulsive. why are you always so energetic and immature?" Most of the time that kinda thing isnt really said, but just communicated through body language. For example, like when that person wants to be active and energetic and spunky and fun, the saturn person would stay stiff as a pole and not play along with that.

So saturn sticks by, is always dedicated, always keeps his word, always tries to help in whatever way he/she can, but at the expense that the other person must give up his/her personality in certain ways.


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posted January 07, 2014 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Im glad it could brighten your day

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posted January 07, 2014 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, a great description for Mars-Saturn aspects, RAS. I've been both Saturn and Mars and can attest to the feelings of how both planets feel in the aspect.

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posted January 08, 2014 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With my husband, his Saturn is conjunct my Pluto, oppose my Mars and square my Jupiter, on my 3rd house; and my Saturn is on his Mercury, near his Sun and square his AC.

We can be cold water for each other's enthusiasm or self esteem if we get critical or controlling of each other. There are things that we also would not agree/approve of each other. For example, he sometimes sees my enthusiasm and actions immature or even irresponsible, while I might see his attitude and way of thinking/talking as immature or inconsiderate. Then I can perceive him as being too serious or controlling, while he perceives me as controlling or nagging too.

My mother's Jupiter squares my dad's Saturn, and there is a similar dynamic too, with my mom reacting to my dad's negative and critical comments. I actually thought how we resembled them in this way, even before knowing that they also shared this sweet Saturn aspect lol.

Then in the composite, Saturn is trine Mars/Venus/Juno and sextile Jupiter widely; but Saturn midpoints are part of a major configuration involving Moon, Neptune, Pluto and Chiron. We have this issue of learning how to be more compassionate and supportive, that we have to avoid being too critical, cold or hurtful of each other. Also, Saturn/Pluto midpoint is square Mercury/Psyche, which is Moon/Uranus midpoint, showing how coldness and critical/hurtful attitude can block sensitivity and deeper connection.

But if you ask me, while I like the stability of the relationship (stability for me, since he is emotionally stable and non chaotic; while for him I'm more chaotic emotional lol), it is not really the reason that holds us together... We have composite Venus/Mars/Juno in Cancer oppose Cap Jupiter, Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct Eros/Psyche; and in synastry we have opposed ACs, his IC ruler conjunct my IC, his Moon on my 7th and my Sun on his 1st, his Sag stellium gets along with my Aries stellium, his Venus oppose my Sun and conjunct my Juno/Angel, his Aries Juno near my Aries stellium, Jupiter trine Venus DW, and some other les obvious stuffs.

I don't think that it's really the stability that keeps us together, it might be relevant of course, but it is our love developed for each other through the years that holds us together. Not crazy romance passion love, but the kind of affection you just develop for each other after sharing a lot with each other. He is my friend and family too, not just partner.

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posted January 09, 2014 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in the strongest saturn-relationship of my life.
I'm saturn squaring his sun, and he is saturn trine my sun. I'm also saturn squaring his venus, and in composite we have saturn square sun, mercury and venus.

I do feel like a parent sometimes, without meaning to do it. It's funny because I KNOW astrology and I know this could happen so I constantly try to work on NOT being restrictive to him. But no matter what I do I cannot prevent this. He sees me as a strict person even when I have NEVER done anything.

So we have these restrictive moments without doubt, but I don't think it consumes our relationship (yet). We have many funny moments together, and we have a very good chemistry without doubt. It's not like it feels boring, or that it's hard to leave him.
We have a lot of jupiter and uranus squares too. And sun-opposite-moon double whammy too. On top of that we have a sun-mercury conjunction double whammy also.
And I really do think that these aspect contribute to all the saturn stuff. There IS real love in spite of saturn, and I feel like I wan't to work at our relationship like I haven't felt with anyone before. Because I can really see where saturn wants me to go with this. There is so much to win, and so much to learn, and as long as the love is still there I don't see the problem with saturn.
At least not yet:P
But I'm also a VERY optimistic person!

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posted October 13, 2018 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Saturns in the Davison?

What did you find? Is there a difference? A counter theme to the synastry, or an extension?

I am familiar with synastry.. but what about Davison chart?

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posted October 13, 2018 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Damn!
I failed to start any relationship yet even after 36. Natal Saturn Exalted in 5th House Libra and Conjunct with 7th Lord Mars.

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posted October 13, 2018 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Somna7H:
Damn!
I failed to start any relationship yet even after 36. Natal Saturn Exalted in 5th House Libra and Conjunct with 7th Lord Mars.


What do you mean? Please explain further?

I am dealing with someone with a Aries Saturn in 5th opposite his Libra Mars. Sounds kind of similar. Maybe start a new thread (in Interpersonal Astrology) and we can analyse your chart for relationships

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posted October 13, 2018 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sassaqua:
What do you mean? Please explain further?

I am dealing with someone with a Aries Saturn in 5th opposite his Libra Mars. Sounds kind of similar. Maybe start a new thread (in Interpersonal Astrology) and we can analyse your chart for relationships


I was talking about my natal Saturn not composite or Synastry.

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posted October 13, 2018 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the Saturn dynamics in me and my husbands synastry and composite chart! But we both have Saturn natally.

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posted October 13, 2018 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Somna7H:
I was talking about my natal Saturn not composite or Synastry.

Yes - so was I.

I have it in my 5th as well and I don't see a problem (doesn't mean there isn't one ). But it's definitely worth discussing. I've never discussed it or met anyone with Saturn in the 5th to explore it objectively.

Maybe I'll start a new thread on natal Saturn in the 5H.

polkadotstars, what's your Davidson aspects with Saturn like? I've grown to really like Saturn.

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posted October 13, 2018 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Saturn relationships. It eliminates whatever is unnecessary to your life and gets down to what is real and tangible. At least, that's how I experience it. You have to have a good amount of trines and sextiles in contrast to squares and oppositions, otherwise, you'll experience the bad side of Saturn. Conjunctions from Saturn feel neutral to me. I don't have a lot of Saturn influence besides my tight Mars opposite Saturn and Saturn sextile ASC. But I do attract a lot of Saturnians in my life, including my boyfriend. I think I can handle it better than some people because I have a lot of earth influence in my chart. It takes some sort of affinity to be comfortable with certain energies. I personally feel uncomfortable with a lot of water and that's my weakest element in my chart.

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posted October 13, 2018 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Yes - so was I.

I have it in my 5th as well and I don't see a problem (doesn't mean there isn't one ). But it's definitely worth discussing. I've never discussed it or met anyone with Saturn in the 5th to explore it objectively.

Maybe I'll start a new thread on natal Saturn in the 5H.

polkadotstars, what's your Davidson aspects with Saturn like? I've grown to really like Saturn.


Circumstances,events etc preventing me to create any romantic relationship with anyone yet. It may be my family environment or background, may be my job or poor economic, may be my mentality, may be style of approach towards women, may be I'm trying my luck with wrong person etc. What the reason no relationship yet but I become 36 now.

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