posted June 23, 2012 11:23 PM            

All aspects are are energy. It's up to people involved to use it for positive or negative.

Saturn is not EASY when it is in a negative aspect, but that doesn't mean it can't be overcome or doesn't mean it is purely a negative thing.

posted June 24, 2012 12:11 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
we did have alot of karma and issues between us ,i'm not going to lie, most of it centered around her irrational fears of losing me, on multiple occassions she said "i know ,i just know im going to lose you, every good thing i ever have gets taken from me." so because of those fears she just chucked what we had away.

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posted June 24, 2012 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i think lots of saturn is good, most people just cant handle the heat.

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#AGREED!

posted June 24, 2012 12:27 AM            

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nope, saturn was the major theme in our synastry. it was also the major theme in her natal, it squared her sun ,and her father died when she was very young, so she had a fear of losing loved ones, and when my saturn squared her planets it made her fear losing me. you people forget that saturn rules fears and insecurities.

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posted June 24, 2012 12:28 AM            

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Originally posted by jaiellelove:
Is her Saturn in Scorpio?

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posted June 24, 2012 12:56 AM            

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Originally posted by jaiellelove:
#shitplutonianpeoplesay (not saturn nor uranus in my op)

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lol that's hilarious!

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posted June 24, 2012 01:08 AM            

I'm not sure how i come off to other people. I don't think i come off strong bc of my libra asc. In fact i usually get told im "too nice" and a "sweetheart"

But i have strong convictions so the rare person who is insecure and feels threatened easily (usually its people who have strong wills) will think i'm overbearing.

I actually enjoy people who have strong opinions like me. Because i think no one should sit on the fence about most things. life is too short. That's pluto for ya.

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posted June 24, 2012 01:30 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
crissy can you unquote my email?

I'm not sure how i come off to other people. I don't think i come off strong bc of my libra asc. In fact i usually get told im "too nice" and a "sweetheart"

But i have strong convictions so the rare person who is insecure and feels threatened easily (usually its people who have strong wills) will think i'm overbearing.

I actually enjoy people who have strong opinions like me. Because i think no one should sit on the fence about most things. life is too short. That's pluto for ya.

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I took it out.

That's interesting you get accused of being "too nice".I get accused of being too nice aswell.Like when a friend makes me upset aslong as an apology is given I will move on and forgive.And others will usually tell me "how can you forgive so fast I wouldn't deal with them anymore".My virgo ex took advantage of my forgiving nature the crap we've been threw most others would be like dump him no more chances.So this year since 2012 Ive made an oath to hold people around me more accountable when they wrong me.That's why I'm no longer friends with my ex cappie bestie.Also why I finally ended things with my virgo ex these people constantly took advantage of my forgiving nature and I had to take my power back.

posted June 24, 2012 02:12 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Um, I think that's my leo combined with my pluto.
And no I'm not like that in real life. I've never seen a libra rising that didn't come off as passive, akshully. I think maybe you are confused
Libra risings are always shy and stuff.

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posted June 24, 2012 03:56 AM            

If a relationship was all hee hee haa haa. We wouldn't take it seriously. Also for when there are serious pitfalls and enthusiasm wanes, which it always does, don't you think having a saturn influence hard or not is beneficial?

Also, I think saturn helps you evolve. For thos of us who believe in reincarnation, saturn ends up being beneficial.

In vedic astrology at least people used ot be so afraid of saturn, a majority still are. Saturn returns, Sade sati etc, are all looked at in a bad light.

Saturn is said to be about growth, tough love but lots of success once you find the key. I think you need a lot of maturity, patience to work with saturn and to be able to enjoy the fruits of your labor.

You know how the taste of success is always much much more sweeter after having fallen? Or how water tastes so good when you are thirsty.

That delayed but sublime feeling is due to saturn.

The "Wow. We made it...."

"We finally made it..."

Our norm now is instant gratification.

I guess maybe it's in my chart but I would love to be in a relationship of growth and not mere merriment. The reason is that the hee hee haa haa in life isn't consistent.
It's here then it's gone.

Saturn you say works from fear, that might be true, but I would think it's more about stability and a solid foundation. Again I'm not expert but this is how I view it.

I guess I relate everything NON-saturian and NON-plutonian to a romcom: Knocked up, Love actually, Just married. I relate the saturian and plutonian influences to deep movies like: Titanic, Time traveler's wife, Notebook, Jude.

Again I'm not experienced in astrology nor in romance and relationships. This was just my take based on my little experience and understanding.

posted June 24, 2012 09:19 AM            

One (the quincunx) is in fact involved in their whole Saturn-config. (feel a bit lost in verry complex geometry right now) since she has a natal Saturn/Uranus conj. (orb 6'48 but that's the widest orb with the second widest her Saturn quincunx his Sun orb 6*) so that would actually be an Uranus expansion in their heavy Saturn-configuration.
(hm.. also their NN's playing the biggest part in this = hers conj. her Mars/Merc. - square her Uranus etc. etc. while his' square his Sun - sextile his M./V. etc. etc. )

The second Sun/Uranus (square) is - apart from the above - making a T-square as dad has a natal Mars/Uranus opposition with orb 1'30.

The lime now! ; )

A DW Sun/Merc. TRINE (0'50/3'20) which totally underlines their GREAT communication/writings together etc.)

(hm..of which one in fact again involved in the whole Saturn-config. and the other in their Ur./Sun/Mars T-square! aaghh ; )

And.. last but not least a Chiron/Pluto-Venus conjunction! (C.- V. within 1* / Pl.-Venus 3'40, all his to her)

posted June 24, 2012 01:06 PM            

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I took it out.

That's interesting you get accused of being "too nice".I get accused of being too nice aswell.Like when a friend makes me upset aslong as an apology is given I will move on and forgive.And others will usually tell me "how can you forgive so fast I wouldn't deal with them anymore".My virgo ex took advantage of my forgiving nature the crap we've been threw most others would be like dump him no more chances.So this year since 2012 Ive made an oath to hold people around me more accountable when they wrong me.That's why I'm no longer friends with my ex cappie bestie.Also why I finally ended things with my virgo ex these people constantly took advantage of my forgiving nature and I had to take my power back.

Ive gotten that too "your too blunt you always stick to your opinions"Yes its fun debating and hearing different opinons your exactly right life it too short to sweat the small stuff.

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oh that's funny!I actually don't forgive! I'm always dropping people left and right because i dont take bs. My cappy best friend treats me like gold, it's just that we cant emotionally connect sometimes and that makes us feel lonely/misunderstood. We don't understand a lot of each other's opinions sometimes, and its like there isn't a deep connection between us. But she is truly the perfect friend as far as treating me how i deserve goes. Always there for me. My virgo ex was very reliable too. Always there. I've learned early on to avoid people who dont treat your right from the beginning, because they will never change.

I get told i'm too nice because of the way i treat people in my everyday. It's like i want to please people too much or i want to make them feel comfortable. so i'm extra nice/sweet. I read in a book that venus square pluto people are overly sweet and they'll make you feel like you're their best friend but then you realize that they treat everyone like that.

Usually i get that confrontation that i'm overbearing from someone who i always thought was kind of annoying but i ignored those feelings. So to them i probably subconsciously acted coldly and overbearing and i didnt realize it. But it was bc i thought they were annoying. I've been very opinionated around people i get along with and they told me i was sweetheart. It just depends on the person, you know, and how they take it.

What do you want to do for a career? I want to be a psychologist. Do you have your sun and mercury in the 9th house like me?

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posted June 24, 2012 05:36 PM            

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oh that's funny!I actually don't forgive! I'm always dropping people left and right because i dont take bs. My cappy best friend treats me like gold, it's just that we cant emotionally connect sometimes and that makes us feel lonely/misunderstood. We don't understand a lot of each other's opinions sometimes, and its like there isn't a deep connection between us. But she is truly the perfect friend as far as treating me how i deserve goes. Always there for me. My virgo ex was very reliable too. Always there. I've learned early on to avoid people who dont treat your right from the beginning, because they will never change.

I get told i'm too nice because of the way i treat people in my everyday. It's like i want to please people too much or i want to make them feel comfortable. so i'm extra nice/sweet. I read in a book that venus square pluto people are overly sweet and they'll make you feel like you're their best friend but then you realize that they treat everyone like that.

Usually i get that confrontation that i'm overbearing from someone who i always thought was kind of annoying but i ignored those feelings. So to them i probably subconsciously acted coldly and overbearing and i didnt realize it. But it was bc i thought they were annoying. I've been very opinionated around people i get along with and they told me i was sweetheart. It just depends on the person, you know, and how they take it.

What do you want to do for a career? I want to be a psychologist. Do you have your sun and mercury in the 9th house like me?

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That's good y'all have such a good bond good friendship is an amazing thing experience.Me and my ex capricorn bestie got along so well in the beginning she was like my sister.Then everything became a competition.She would take digs at me then when I called her out she would play innocent.I've read that friends of opposite signs may feel competitive with each other I definitely experienced that with her.

My virgo ex constantly treated me like child he was always babied me nagged me it was dreadful.He would complain about how I dress complain if he thought I said something silly.He always wanted to know my every move he got very jealous when I would spend time away from him.His pluto makes an aspect with all of my personal planets,and his pluto squares my venus at a tight orb.My family said he was obsessed with me and it was an unhealthy relationship.And your right I'm finally learning no matter how much you want someone too change they wont.That's why Ive just moved on from the situation and try to learn from it.

Yes venus square pluto aspect makes you very charismatic and charming so I can totally see that.Your right I'm the sameway I'm very friendly and not shy around other people.I read this aspect can sometimes attract possessive/controlling types so we have to be careful who we give our love to.

Well I'm very artsy I love to draw/graphic design and writing.I even enjoy acting as well I was involved alot in theater high school.I work part time at a talent agency also I'm in school right now for nursing.I would much rather work full time in the entertainment business but gotta have back up plan as well.My sun and mercury are in my 4th house,my 9th house is empty but sagittarius is the cusp ruler.

posted June 24, 2012 05:56 PM            

That's interesting that your sun is in the 4th and you want to be a nurse. I would hate that. I know another cancer who is a nurse lol. I think its a good job for cancers. But not me, I really need to figure out the deeper meaning of life in my everyday. I literally need it to survive. That's why i love psychology, because it helps you put the puzzle of how life works together. That's what the 9th house is all about. Putting pieces together so you can find out the big picture of how life works. The truth, the common pattern that connects all of life.

I am shy in real life, though. I never said I wasn't. I am just overly sweet. See, we are different. I guess you are more outgoing than I am because of your aries rising!
They call you overly sweet because you're forgiving. I'm not very forgiving. But I get called that because I am very sweet to people in my everyday trivial contact with others. Haha.

Yet, we both do attract masculine signs only...and virgos! Do you draw virgo moons as much as I do?

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posted June 24, 2012 06:35 PM            

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Thank you for the compliment. It's very interesting how even with so many placements in common we are still very different people. I am very artsy as well, but not as much as you. I have singing talent. I sing jazz and opera and play classical piano as well as do graphic design, too. But, I wouldn't like to do any of those for a living. They are just hobbies. My passion is where my sun and mercury lie, in the 9th house, and in where my saturn, neptune, and uranus are, in the 3rd house which is ruled by sagittarius. So I feel like I have important things to communicate with the world. I also have venus , moon and mars in leo in the 10th so that's where my love for the arts comes from. I wonder where yours comes from, though?

That's interesting that your sun is in the 4th and you want to be a nurse. I would hate that. I know another cancer who is a nurse lol. I think its a good job for cancers. But not me, I really need to figure out the deeper meaning of life in my everyday. I literally need it to survive. That's why i love psychology, because it helps you put the puzzle of how life works together. That's what the 9th house is all about. Putting pieces together so you can find out the big picture of how life works. The truth, the common pattern that connects all of life.

I am shy in real life, though. I never said I wasn't. I am just overly sweet. See, we are different. I guess you are more outgoing than I am because of your aries rising!
They call you overly sweet because you're forgiving. I'm not very forgiving. But I get called that because I am very sweet to people in my everyday trivial contact with others. Haha.

Yet, we both do attract masculine signs only...and virgos! Do you draw virgo moons as much as I do?

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That's interesting with your need for deeper meaning what's going own in your 8th house?Psychology is like a book that never ends your constantly learning something new with it.Yes cancer being a nurse seems so stereotypical lol I would much rather work in show biz.But I wanna have back up just incase thing don't work out I guess that's my capricorn saturn talking always gotta have plan b.

Yes I think the aries rising makes me more outgoing.Most libra's I know are very sweet more melow and laid back guess that the aries/libra for yah.Yes my best friend is a virgo sun and a virgo moon,my other good friend is an aqua sun virgo moon.Virgo moons everywhere I guess lol.

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posted June 24, 2012 06:55 PM            

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Oh you have a virgo moon! I have a leo moon. Oh lool. nooo wonder! You seem so much more less excitable than me. Like calm and less likely to draw attention to yourself. You know, we leo moons are all---we either absolutely love it---or absolutely hate it. So dramatic!

Yes I try not too draw attention too myself

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Good finally someone can see my calm side.My friends/family say I'm so dramatic.I think since leo moon switched over to virgo moon for night births.My virgo moon is on the leo/virgo cusp.So I guess I have some mixed leo traits.Then along with leo venus/mars south node LOL!

posted June 24, 2012 07:06 PM            

But since we're both crazy cancer people we're both loony and zany and probably both have that crazy cancer laugh too that shakes our ribcages ---and prob everyone else's

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posted June 24, 2012 07:12 PM            

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(hm.. also their NN's playing the biggest part in this = hers conj. her Mars/Merc. - square her Uranus etc. etc. while his' square his Sun - sextile his M./V. etc. etc. )

The second Sun/Uranus (square) is - apart from the above - making a T-square as dad has a natal Mars/Uranus opposition with orb 1'30.

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posted June 24, 2012 07:28 PM            

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I think every cancer is dramatic in real life. Haha. A cancer, I read, will be the first to laugh in a group of people. The first to cry. The first to smile! Rubber faces, they call us. We are so emotional that we let emotion out before anyone else because we're so excitable/impressionable. Either way, the way you express yourself is very different from me. Leo moon is all "look at me! look what I can do!" whereas virgo moon is like "it's okay, I'm here to serve. You can count on me. I'm humble." And stuff lololol. I dunno that sounded stupid. But you get me haha.

But since we're both crazy cancer people we're both loony and zany and probably both have that crazy cancer laugh too that shakes our ribcages ---and prob everyone else's

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Yes us cancers are very dramatic our sign is so complex.when people think they've finally figured us out we do something totally different and their like huh?Yes leo moons are very dramatic.Virgo moons were kinda more laid back.

posted June 24, 2012 08:53 PM            

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Yes us cancers are very dramatic our sign is so complex.when people think they've finally figured us out we do something totally different and their like huh?Yes leo moons are very dramatic.Virgo moons were kinda more laid back.

I love to laugh ever cancer I've met has had such a good sense of humor.Were definitely not afraid of being out side of the box.

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yesss everything you said is very true. You know our sun sign very well wow. I've been told that by a lot of people, that i am like all these personalities rolled into one, and certain people have told me "hey you know, it's interesting, but you don't fit any stereotypes."

Lol well I've met cancers who definitely do fit stereotypes, though. I just think we definitely can be a lot of things since we have felt every emotion out there. I think that's we we're so compassionate or understanding of others, because we can identify with any emotion.

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posted June 24, 2012 09:21 PM            

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yesss everything you said is very true. You know our sun sign very well wow. I've been told that by a lot of people, that i am like all these personalities rolled into one, and certain people have told me "hey you know, it's interesting, but you don't fit any stereotypes."

Lol well I've met cancers who definitely do fit stereotypes, though. I just think we definitely can be a lot of things since we have felt every emotion out there. I think that's we we're so compassionate or understanding of others, because we can identify with any emotion.

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Yes Ive read up alot about cancer sun.I feel like Ive mastered knowing about cancer sun.Now I'm reading up on cancer mercury placements.Yes us cancer's are pretty unpredictable at times.

I think it also has alot to do with the decans.I've read that the first decans of cancer is ruled by the moon.Our decan is the second decan its ruled by pluto.So we kinda give off that unpredictable scorpio like quality.