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Topic: Who cheats? (Personal responses only)
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AriesKat Knowflake Posts: 450 From: Brooklyn, NY USA Registered: May 2011
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posted January 09, 2013 06:16 PM
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sand Knowflake Posts: 9204 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 09, 2013 06:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by MyFavouriteName: i haven't, but in the present era of my life, i'm finding it hard to imagine being 100% committed. the right woman will come along and i will be the committed person that i knew myself as all my life.but there is this growing desire to cheat, i don't think its to emotionally cheat.. i wouldn't stay with someone that i'm less attached to or bonded with than another who exists outside, thats an impossibility for me. but the forbidden fruit scenario of a romp is undeniably a turn on for me.
i have moon squares, and venus squares, and moon and venus opposition. i think its the venus-square-uranus for me, with jupiter square venus
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MyFavouriteName Knowflake Posts: 182 From: London Registered: May 2012
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posted January 09, 2013 07:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: Same.
i think cheating is different for people, i know for me, the interest or reasoning is purely selfish and sexual, i don't have an issue knowing what woman i want to be with. IP: Logged |
AriesKat Knowflake Posts: 450 From: Brooklyn, NY USA Registered: May 2011
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posted January 09, 2013 10:04 PM
and of course gemini anything.IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 09, 2013 11:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by MyFavouriteName: i think cheating is different for people,i know for me, the interest or reasoning is purely selfish and sexual, i don't have an issue knowing what woman i want to be with.
Hey props for being so self aware. But do women a favour and just stay single yeah? That way you can do whatever you want without hurting anyone.I really don't think you'd ever be completely emotionally and sexually faithful to anyone. Just by what you wrote, you'll always want variety and something else. You seem the 'explorer' type and seeing that you have soo many squares to main planets, you're not ever going to be completely content. As your heart contradicts your head which contradicts your impulses lol. Maybe try for an open relationship or marriage? That way at least it's all out in the open and there are no expectations on both sides.
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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 868 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 12:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by watermonkey: Out of curiosity, padre may i ask do you have aries or gemini in mercury in the 3rd house??lol sorry for randomness
Mercury/Capricorn/Gemini in III Odd thing is though, never have cheated, no not once, just not in my nature. I've read that Leo Moon is a homewrecker, for me, nah, people in relationships are off of the menu so to speak. IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 12:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by AriesKat: and of course gemini anything.
I think Gemini can be somewhat mitigated with Saturn aspects to Sun, Venus or Moon and a stellium of 'solid' placements (Taurus, Leo). My ex was a Gemini Mars but he was faithful and honest. However he was heavy in Taurus, had a Fire rising which made him straight up, and Saturn aspected both his sun and moon. It also aspected his mercury but at a much looser degree. He had the wit, charisma and playfulness of a Gemini, without the flakiness and the dodgy behaviour <3. Some placements give more the potential to do things I think. Though at the end of the day, it's just a choice you make whether to be moral or not. IP: Logged |
MyFavouriteName Knowflake Posts: 182 From: London Registered: May 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 12:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Haplesschild*: [QUOTE]Originally posted by MyFavouriteName: [b] i think cheating is different for people,i know for me, the interest or reasoning is purely selfish and sexual, i don't have an issue knowing what woman i want to be with.
Hey props for being so self aware. But do women a favour and just stay single yeah? That way you can do whatever you want without hurting anyone.I really don't think you'd ever be completely emotionally and sexually faithful to anyone. Just by what you wrote, you'll always want variety and something else. You seem the 'explorer' type and seeing that you have soo many squares to main planets, you're not ever going to be completely content. As your heart contradicts your head which contradicts your impulses lol. Maybe try for an open relationship or marriage? That way at least it's all out in the open and there are no expectations on both sides.[/B][/QUOTE] have you cheated? IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 12:10 AM
I haven't. Had lots of opportunities to though, but it's not me, I'd feel bad.I still remember how it felt after I found out about an ex cheating. It was a shi tty two years after, alot of emotional pain and issues. Never going to do that to anyone =(. IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 12:10 AM
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sand Knowflake Posts: 9204 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 10, 2013 12:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by Padre35: I've read that Leo Moon is a homewrecker, for me, nah, people in relationships are off of the menu so to speak.
i used to think like that too. even made a thread about it or something. but then i do think some women are better off with me than their partner. i feel i can give them more. *ducks for fruits and veggies thrown at sand* IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 12:13 AM
Sand =/ you don't really seem to have much respect for relationships do you? It's actually sad.And why would anyone want somebody that would be willing to cheat with them anyway? If they're that easily swayed, they'll do the same thing to you. I'm curious about your placements though, what are you placements? Do you have Venus aspecting Neptune or Uranus? Or alot of mutable? IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9204 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 10, 2013 12:21 AM
u never know if you 2 are the one's meant to be together. what if she doesn't cheat and i don't cheat even if that union came from breaking 2 other relationships up. /shrugthat is how i feel at this moment in time. i'm v v fixed actually. venus bi quintile uranus. venus trine neptune. i only have one mutable actually. the uranus in sag.. i'll post a chart. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 868 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 12:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: i used to think like that too. even made a thread about it or something. but then i do think some women are better off with me than their partner. i feel i can give them more.*ducks for fruits and veggies thrown at sand*
I get it, it's just for myself, do not want to be that sort of Cassandra (Zimmer Bradley fans know). Just not worth it to me at least. A moment or a month of passion, while personally gratifying, is just not worth it to me. My conscience has a mean left hook. TBH, what troubles me is the "other" has absolutely no idea their "love of my life" is more than willing. Ugh, people can be so shortsighted sometimes
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Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 12:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: u never know if you 2 are the one's meant to be together. what if she doesn't cheat and i don't cheat even if that union came from breaking 2 other relationships up. /shrugthat is how i feel at this moment in time. i'm v v fixed actually. venus bi quintile uranus. venus trine neptune. i'll post a chart.
But if you were meant to be, it will be. There wouldn't be a need for interfering and doing things like that. Besides, aren't you scared it'll come back to bite you in the ass? Like when you're actually really in love with somebody and they end up cheating on you? Especially after marriage, that would suck. I'm mostly cardinal, though I think my saturn aspects help abit.
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Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 12:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Padre35: I get it, it's just for myself, do not want to be that sort of Cassandra (Zimmer Bradley fans know).Just not worth it to me at least. A moment or a month of passion, while personally gratifying, is just not worth it to me. My conscience has a mean left hook. TBH, what troubles me is the "other" has absolutely no idea their "love of my life" is more than willing. Ugh, people can be so shortsighted sometimes
Yeah...My conscience is like out of control. I can get guilt tripped so easily and I just can't do things cos I know my conscience is going to eat me alive =.=. Even if I tell them, the look on somebody's face is going to haunt me afterwards and I'll beat myself up. In fact the ex that really did a number on me, manipulated me after and I felt bad for him. It was pretty ridiculous.
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sand Knowflake Posts: 9204 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 10, 2013 12:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Haplesschild*: But if you were meant to be, it will be. There wouldn't be a need for interfering and doing things like that. Besides, aren't you scared it'll come back to bite you in the ass? Like when you're actually really in love with somebody and they end up cheating on you? Especially after marriage, that would suck.I'm mostly cardinal, though I think my saturn aspects help abit.
i don't want to wait for things to happen. i'm fine with that if she felt a pull stronger than mine.. such is life. painful for sure but i will get over it.. eventually. you respect commitments/ agreements. i respect energy. timing, maybe even synastry. here.. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 8960 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 10, 2013 12:51 AM
A man who cheats around the clock and gets away with it (mostly) & super charming/devious: Mars in Aquarius square Neptune and trine to Jupiter in Gemini, Sun/Venus Aquarius conjunct each other otherwise unaspectedA man who is -honest- about not wanting a committed relationship: Mars conjunct Saturn in Scorpio sextile Capricorn Sun, Venus in Sagittarius trine Pluto and opposed Jupiter in Gemini A man who wants to be married but puts on the guise of the bachelor for fear of getting hurt: Mars conjunct Saturn in Aquarius, Sun/Venus Aquarius opposed Uranus A man who cheated on his wife but tried very hard to cover his tracks: Mars in Capricorn trine Saturn, square Uranus and the Aries Sun, Venus in Pisces square Jupiter/Neptune Sagittarius A man who's never cheated and would never (scout's honor) & happy with his long stable marriage: Mars conjunct Saturn in Cancer, Sun/Venus Pisces trine Saturn A woman who's never cheated on her partner (me), isn't against serial monogamy and always upfront about wanting a relationship to be just sex or sex + commitment (depending on man involved): Venus in Capricorn conjunct Moon, Venus square Mars/Saturn/Pluto in Libra (Mars makes no other aspects) IP: Logged |
MyFavouriteName Knowflake Posts: 182 From: London Registered: May 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 01:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Haplesschild*: I haven't. Had lots of opportunities to though, but it's not me, I'd feel bad.I still remember how it felt after I found out about an ex cheating. It was a shi tty two years after, alot of emotional pain and issues. Never going to do that to anyone =(.
but if you meant what you say, then you know what im going to tell you: i can't be content in an open relationship or marriage. i can be faithful, it was a walk in the park with Love. i'm just declaring that i could get off pretty well from having that forbidden fruit, doesn't mean I'm going to consume it. could 'cheat' someday, but not on a relationship that didn't have the breakup coming. i appreciate your thoughts and advice, its nice when someone seems to care so much IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 868 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 01:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Haplesschild*: Yeah...My conscience is like out of control. I can get guilt tripped so easily and I just can't do things cos I know my conscience is going to eat me alive =.=. Even if I tell them, the look on somebody's face is going to haunt me afterwards and I'll beat myself up. In fact the ex that really did a number on me, manipulated me after and I felt bad for him. It was pretty ridiculous.
Well, what I've learned is..sure..can make it happen..and somewhat easily. Lots of Scorpionic energy coupled with a Venus/Moon etc. However, empathy just stops it in it's tracks, would not want that done to me so cannot do that to someone else. The flirty side though, enjoys talking to those in relationships b/c (I suspect) that the sort of charm and feeling of still being attractive (though obviously in a relationship) is something that women (and men) really like to feel. A sort of "I still have it" sense to it all. Which is harmless in and of itself, some though, lose a sense of control and propriety..and to me..just sad really.
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page one Knowflake Posts: 30 From: USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 11:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: A man who cheats around the clock and gets away with it (mostly) & super charming/devious: Mars in Aquarius square Neptune and trine to Jupiter in Gemini, Sun/Venus Aquarius conjunct each other otherwise unaspectedA man who is -honest- about not wanting a committed relationship: Mars conjunct Saturn in Scorpio sextile Capricorn Sun, Venus in Sagittarius trine Pluto and opposed Jupiter in Gemini A man who wants to be married but puts on the guise of the bachelor for fear of getting hurt: Mars conjunct Saturn in Aquarius, Sun/Venus Aquarius opposed Uranus A man who cheated on his wife but tried very hard to cover his tracks: Mars in Capricorn trine Saturn, square Uranus and the Aries Sun, Venus in Pisces square Jupiter/Neptune Sagittarius A man who's never cheated and would never (scout's honor) & happy with his long stable marriage: Mars conjunct Saturn in Cancer, Sun/Venus Pisces trine Saturn A woman who's never cheated on her partner (me), isn't against serial monogamy and always upfront about wanting a relationship to be just sex or sex + commitment (depending on man involved): Venus in Capricorn conjunct Moon, Venus square Mars/Saturn/Pluto in Libra (Mars makes no other aspects)
Lonake, could we see the charts for the examples you've given? Especially #3! IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 12:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by MyFavouriteName: but if you meant what you say, then you know what im going to tell you: i can't be content in an open relationship or marriage. i can be faithful, it was a walk in the park with Love. i'm just declaring that i could get off pretty well from having that forbidden fruit, doesn't mean I'm going to consume it. could 'cheat' someday, but not on a relationship that didn't have the breakup coming. i appreciate your thoughts and advice, its nice when someone seems to care so much
Besides physical cheating, do you flirt around and talk to other girls inappropriately behind your gf's back? I find that just as bad as having them make out with another person, or them sleeping around. It's all just really disrespectful.
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Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 01:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: i don't want to wait for things to happen. i'm fine with that if she felt a pull stronger than mine.. such is life. painful for sure but i will get over it.. eventually. you respect commitments/ agreements. i respect energy. timing, maybe even synastry.here..
I know why you cheat. I find people with moon square venus have issues with being content. It's like Venus square Mars are always fighting within themselves... It's even more intense in a Moon square Venus person.You have alot of t squares like me, but I think alot of mine are with generational planets at loose degrees. I hear Moon hard aspect Pluto is a btch to deal with in a chart? My Mercury, Venus and Moon conjunct so I wouldn't know lol. I think it's just because you have alot of tough squares/opp, so I guess it manifested negatively? Oh and the ex that cheated on me had Sun opposition Saturn too, I think it can cause feelings of inadequacy and some insecurity? He craved attention from more than one girl because he needed the validation to feel better about himself. IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 10, 2013 01:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: A man who cheats around the clock and gets away with it (mostly) & super charming/devious: Mars in Aquarius square Neptune and trine to Jupiter in Gemini, Sun/Venus Aquarius conjunct each other otherwise unaspectedA man who is -honest- about not wanting a committed relationship: Mars conjunct Saturn in Scorpio sextile Capricorn Sun, Venus in Sagittarius trine Pluto and opposed Jupiter in Gemini A man who wants to be married but puts on the guise of the bachelor for fear of getting hurt: Mars conjunct Saturn in Aquarius, Sun/Venus Aquarius opposed Uranus A man who cheated on his wife but tried very hard to cover his tracks: Mars in Capricorn trine Saturn, square Uranus and the Aries Sun, Venus in Pisces square Jupiter/Neptune Sagittarius A man who's never cheated and would never (scout's honor) & happy with his long stable marriage: Mars conjunct Saturn in Cancer, Sun/Venus Pisces trine Saturn A woman who's never cheated on her partner (me), isn't against serial monogamy and always upfront about wanting a relationship to be just sex or sex + commitment (depending on man involved): Venus in Capricorn conjunct Moon, Venus square Mars/Saturn/Pluto in Libra (Mars makes no other aspects)
Hey post charts? It's interesting that the Pisces Venus man was completely faithful, so I guess Saturn aspecting his planets does help? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 3492 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 10, 2013 01:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Haplesschild*: Besides physical cheating, do you flirt around and talk to other girls inappropriately behind your gf's back? I find that just as bad as having them make out with another person, or them sleeping around. It's all just really disrespectful.
Welcome to dating in the 2000's. This is a very large reason why I don't date or like guys my age. Because when they say they "like" you, it doesn't seem to mean anything. IP: Logged |