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Topic: Who cheats? (Personal responses only)
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peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 2439 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted December 31, 2012 10:51 PM
And what in your chart do you think causes this? IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9204 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 31, 2012 11:21 PM
squares to the moon.IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 125 From: wales Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 31, 2012 11:26 PM
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peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 2439 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted December 31, 2012 11:31 PM
I have when young but wouldn't anymore. So sand you cheat?IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 4498 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 31, 2012 11:37 PM
So PBB sweetheart, when I sneak peeks at your pretty photos, is that cheating? Lol. J/kYou like starting the New Year on a real bang, do you? IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9204 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 31, 2012 11:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by peachbeigeblue: I have when young but wouldn't anymore. So sand you cheat?
venus in gemini opp uranus? have not but i've never been married before. i'm more of a serial monogamist. if i broke up with someone i'd have someone already in the wings.. i think that counts as cheating even on the emotional level. i mean y have all these connections with women when you really mean to stay. IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 1363 From: Munchkinland Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 31, 2012 11:49 PM
Venus in Sagittarius, Sagittarius dominance, Jupiter dominance, Venus square/semisquare Mars (differences between drive and desire),Juno in bad aspect (Mars opp Juno, Cupido sq Juno if including asteroids)... maybe an excess of air/fire??? lots of negi/hard aspects between either Saturn and the Moon/Venus, and the devotional asteroids. (conflict of emotional/physical desires and stability/security)... I think alot of these are signs of commitment phobia mostly... But, also Neptune aspects can be overwhelming and cause those bad ideals that lead to recreational philandering and other instability... having unrealistic ideals for the partner... that stuff. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 266 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 01, 2013 12:51 AM
I was the "other" person. I feel like thats worse then cheating. I instigated the whole affair. I'm not proud of myself but there was just so much mutual attraction. It was complicated situation so it had to be hush hush This happened for like 9 months. I have to say it was kind of exciting at the time. Always this rush of Adrenaline when we would meet. I wouldn't do it again, thats a pretty ****** thing to do. this was a few years ago I was really wild and immature. I've actually never cheated on anyone, mainly because I never commit myself to relationships with out intense passion. Then again thats probably why I'm always single...
Venus; Gemini Aries Mars in-conjunct pluto also True Lilith conjunct mars My uncle cheated on his wife for 3 years, he has this conjunction too. IP: Logged |
watermonkey Knowflake Posts: 54 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 01, 2013 01:05 AM
Imo airy signs, because we have lesser feelings of attachment in which the mind works more than the feelings.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 3492 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 01, 2013 01:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene:
Venus; Gemini Aries Mars in-conjunct pluto also
I'm an Aries w/ Aries Venus, Mars in Gemini inconj. Pluto and Gemini ASC. I think I would have to be engaged or even married to take a relationship seriously. Then again I have moon trine neptune and Jupiter in the 12th, even though I could be easily tempted into cheating I would probably resist because I know how cheating can affect someone. Astrological additions Gemini ASC Mars in Gemini Sun sextile Mars Mars conj. the ASC Venus square Saturn Mercury square Neptune IP: Logged |
anno_lucis Knowflake Posts: 382 From: the f'in catalina wine mixer Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 01, 2013 09:35 AM
aries w/aries venus, cheating to me is sleeping, or sexual contact with another person, whilst in a committed relationship (married, or not). i don't get this whole 'emotional cheating' thing. can someone break that down for me? i'm guessing it's sharing an emotional connection with someone else, but i mean, this is life, we are social animals, surely ur not expected to cut yourself off emotionally from everyone else ever? that seems a bit extreme not to mention, unhealthy...i have moon squares and excess fire. i can positively say i couldn't imagine 'life' with only one emotional connection...and that's it. that's not living. IP: Logged |
Astra Knowflake Posts: 447 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2013 10:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by anno_lucis: aries w/aries venus, cheating to me is sleeping, or sexual contact with another person, whilst in a committed relationship (married, or not). i don't get this whole 'emotional cheating' thing. can someone break that down for me? i'm guessing it's sharing an emotional connection with someone else, but i mean, this is life, we are social animals, surely ur not expected to cut yourself off emotionally from everyone else ever? that seems a bit extreme not to mention, unhealthy...i have moon squares and excess fire. i can positively say i couldn't imagine 'life' with only one emotional connection...and that's it. that's not living.
Emotional cheating is where you feel a stronger bond or connection with someone else than with your spouse or significant other. It's perfectly fine to have an emotional connection with others. Being in a relationship doesn't mean you have to give up your friends. When you emotionally cheat, you share intimate thoughts (i.e. your dreams, your fears, secrets) with someone else besides your partner. You, in fact, hide these thoughts from your partner and confide in someone else. You may also meet up with this other person and keep them a secret from your partner. If you have to lie to your partner about your "friend" then there is a problem. Your partner should be your main confidant. They should be your best friend. If you feel closer to this friend than to your partner, then this is a major red flag. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9204 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 01, 2013 11:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by anno_lucis: aries w/aries venus, cheating to me is sleeping, or sexual contact with another person, whilst in a committed relationship (married, or not). i don't get this whole 'emotional cheating' thing. can someone break that down for me? i'm guessing it's sharing an emotional connection with someone else, but i mean, this is life, we are social animals, surely ur not expected to cut yourself off emotionally from everyone else ever? that seems a bit extreme not to mention, unhealthy...i have moon squares and excess fire. i can positively say i couldn't imagine 'life' with only one emotional connection...and that's it. that's not living.
idk i would kind of expect my partner not to be too close with other men.
r u saying u could possibly love 2 ms.librarising? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 3179 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 01, 2013 12:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by anno_lucis: i don't get this whole 'emotional cheating' thing. can someone break that down for me? i'm guessing it's sharing an emotional connection with someone else, but i mean, this is life, we are social animals, surely ur not expected to cut yourself off emotionally from everyone else ever? that seems a bit extreme not to mention, unhealthy...i have moon squares and excess fire. i can positively say i couldn't imagine 'life' with only one emotional connection...and that's it. that's not living.
Ditto to all that. IP: Logged |
anno_lucis Knowflake Posts: 382 From: the f'in catalina wine mixer Registered: Mar 2012
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posted January 01, 2013 12:24 PM
ok thanks astra. that is clear and i agree. i don't agree with lying under any circumstances, i'm always honest about things, my feelings, especially. and i expect the same in return.@sand well..i've got platonic friends male and female that know me better than my bf. i love them all dearly, i'm not sleeping with them, though. some people you have different dynamics with, share different emotional bonds with. the sexual one is exclusive, and it is that that creates the depth of bond that you don't have with anyone else. for instance, the person i consider my best mate of 10 years is a guy. he knows more about my life and what i've been through than my bf (of less than one year). he (boyf) doesn't need or want to know, a lot of that stuff (his own words). am i cheating? i don't think so. i've never hidden any of my mates from him, they know each other, my bf actually adores him. i would never, and have never, sacrificed that friend, for any relationship i've been in. it has caused problems, previously, because of jealousy. my ex didn't want me to hang out with anyone else, male or female. it's cute, but immature imo. it broke the relationship because he obviously didn't trust me. you should both trust each other to engage with other people, knowing that sex isn't automatically going to ensue. without trust, there is no love. that's just sheer possession, imo. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 3179 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 01, 2013 12:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astra:
When you emotionally cheat, you share intimate thoughts (i.e. your dreams, your fears, secrets) with someone else besides your partner. You, in fact, hide these thoughts from your partner and confide in someone else. You may also meet up with this other person and keep them a secret from your partner. If you have to lie to your partner about your "friend" then there is a problem. Your partner should be your main confidant. They should be your best friend. If you feel closer to this friend than to your partner, then this is a major red flag.
Well, my husband is pretty narrow-minded. He doesn't want to hear a lot of what I have to say. I can't divorce him without causing a major upheaval in our children's lives. Plus, we usually get along okay. But, because he won't be my confidante, I do tell other people a lot of stuff that I don't tell him...because he won't listen to me. So am I emotionally cheating if I don't set the bar way down low, so that every communication I have with others is less consequential than what I have with my husband? If I tell you a secret I wouldn't tell him, that's me being unfaithful? I'm very unfaithful then, despite my screen name. If it matters, every single aspect SaturnineMoth listed applies to me. I have Sag Venus, I am Jupiter dominant, squares to the moon, moon opposed Juno. IP: Logged |
Astra Knowflake Posts: 447 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2013 12:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by anno_lucis: ok thanks astra. that is clear and i agree. i don't agree with lying under any circumstances, i'm always honest about things, my feelings, especially. and i expect the same in return.@sand well..i've got platonic friends male and female that know me better than my bf. i love them all dearly, i'm not sleeping with them, though. some people you have different dynamics with, share different emotional bonds with. the sexual one is exclusive, and it is that that creates the depth of bond that you don't have with anyone else. for instance, the person i consider my best mate of 10 years is a guy. he knows more about my life and what i've been through than my bf (of less than one year). he (boyf) doesn't need or want to know, a lot of that stuff (his own words). am i cheating? i don't think so. i've never hidden any of my mates from him, they know each other, my bf actually adores him. i would never, and have never, sacrificed that friend, for any relationship i've been in. it has caused problems, previously, because of jealousy. my ex didn't want me to hang out with anyone else, male or female. it's cute, but immature imo. it broke the relationship because he obviously didn't trust me. you should both trust each other to engage with other people, knowing that sex isn't automatically going to ensue. without trust, there is no love. that's just sheer possession, imo.
I would not say that you are cheating at all. It's normal to feel closer to someone you've known for a decade as opposed to someone you've known for less than a year. You haven't hidden anything from your boyfriend. If there are things that your boyfriend doesn't want to know about, then that's fine. As long as you don't purposefully withhold info, then it's ok.
What you must do, however, is find other ways to continue to build a close relationship with your boyfriend. It's great that you have a boyfriend who likes your friends and isn't threatened by them. Those kinds of guys are hard to find! I agree that you should never toss aside a close friend for a boyfriend. IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 01, 2013 12:56 PM
Cheating is way more than sleeping with somebody else though, it's violation of trust...And a good indication is if you are uncomfortable doing or saying a certain thing in front of your partner, something you feel you need to hide- that's cheating. It's more than actions or verbal comments, it can be written too.Bc you wouldn't hide it if you didnt think you were doing something wrong right? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 3179 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 01, 2013 01:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Haplesschild*: Cheating is way more than sleeping with somebody else though, it's violation of trust...And a good indication is if you are uncomfortable doing or saying a certain thing in front of your partner, something you feel you need to hide- that's cheating. It's more than actions or verbal comments, it can be written too.
But the word cheating sounds so negative. Doesn't everyone hide SOMETHING from every single person they know? I don't know anyone who has 100% transparency with their partner; I think that's unrealistic. Plus, if you are going to put down the person keeping secrets, also look at the character of the person they are keeping secrets from...maybe the other person just isn't accepting or mature enough to hear the truth. I dunno, there are a lot of dysfunctional relationships out there, and there are reasons they persist in spite of it not being ideal...in spite of a lack of trust...in spite of one person or the other feeling unfulfilled. Every situation has its own story, and it's impossible to generalize and judge without knowing those details. IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 01, 2013 01:10 PM
Well alot of people use that as a measure of whether they are cheating or not, including me. I just feel if somebody needs t hide certain things bc they are uncomfortable for their partner to find out, bc they know it is inappropriate...Then that's clearly crossing the line. But that's my opinion, I don't feel secrets should be part of a serious relationship.It all comes down to the fact you wouldn't be hiding if you didn't feel like it's something wrong. I know you may have a husband that isn't that understanding or supportive...But you should work on that with him...Not seek it elsewhere??IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9204 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 01, 2013 01:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by anno_lucis: ok thanks astra. that is clear and i agree. i don't agree with lying under any circumstances, i'm always honest about things, my feelings, especially. and i expect the same in return.@sand well..i've got platonic friends male and female that know me better than my bf. i love them all dearly, i'm not sleeping with them, though. some people you have different dynamics with, share different emotional bonds with. the sexual one is exclusive, and it is that that creates the depth of bond that you don't have with anyone else. for instance, the person i consider my best mate of 10 years is a guy. he knows more about my life and what i've been through than my bf (of less than one year). he (boyf) doesn't need or want to know, a lot of that stuff (his own words). am i cheating? i don't think so. i've never hidden any of my mates from him, they know each other, my bf actually adores him. i would never, and have never, sacrificed that friend, for any relationship i've been in. it has caused problems, previously, because of jealousy. my ex didn't want me to hang out with anyone else, male or female. it's cute, but immature imo. it broke the relationship because he obviously didn't trust me. you should both trust each other to engage with other people, knowing that sex isn't automatically going to ensue. without trust, there is no love. that's just sheer possession, imo.
yeah i have platonic friends too. it's not like that. there's something more. not just sharing stuff.. intentions, possibilities, emotions.. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9204 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 01, 2013 01:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Haplesschild*: Cheating is way more than sleeping with somebody else though, it's violation of trust...And a good indication is if you are uncomfortable doing or saying a certain thing in front of your partner, something you feel you need to hide- that's cheating. It's more than actions or verbal comments, it can be written too.Bc you wouldn't hide it if you didnt think you were doing something wrong right?
hey some of us are paranoid scorpio risings by default IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 01, 2013 01:17 PM
People are always only anxious if they have something to hide. They wouldn't care if they know they're doing nothing wrong. Subconsciously on some level you always know imo. I'm quite plutonian and Neptunian and Saturnian so I am pretty big on the trust and honesty thing lol. I think it's all good if my bf hangs out with a girl one on one, but if he has to hide his interactions, conversations etc then I won't stand for it. I actually think emotional cheating is worse and more hurtful, cos sex could mean nothing, but emotions that thought and energy.IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 9204 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 01, 2013 01:21 PM
r u a scorpio moon?IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 01, 2013 01:26 PM
No haha I'm an air moon! Born almost a Libra actually . I have sun aspecting pluto and a pluto (only fixed) singleton. I don't have any water except Jupiter and Pluto. I'm mostly air and earth.IP: Logged | |