posted March 08, 2016 11:20 AM              

And if the moon OP speaks of is so empathetic, how come they didn't feel the pain of those other moons/placements they would be hurting by labeling them as 'little to no empathy'?

If anything, the making of such a thread shows a lack of empathy.
How would you like if someone said that? ^ Doesn't feel good, right? Now can you feel how those other people feel? That's empathy.

It would be better to talk honestly about one's issues out with a professional, rather than collecting and encouraging negativity about what you hate, in order to feel superior.

posted March 08, 2016 11:46 AM            

Things EXIST and just because people do not LIKE them does not make them not exist.

I talk about real/actual/authentic things.

Abuse exists. Lack of empathy exists. People hurting people for selfish reasons exists etc etc

Anyone who reads literature knows that these things exist.

Read "Long Days Journey into Night". Read Shakespeare.

Read Jane Austen and Charlotte Bronte even

Go tell these people to be more positive lol

I talk in a real/authentic way.

If people want fuzzy land, there are many people out there who will give you fuzzy land but it is not I

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posted March 08, 2016 12:09 PM            

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posted March 08, 2016 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is the thing.

Things EXIST and just because people do not LIKE them does not make them not exist.

I talk about real/actual/authentic things.

Abuse exists. Lack of empathy exists. People hurting people for selfish reasons exists etc etc

Anyone who reads literature knows that these things exist.

Read "Long Days Journey into Night". Read Shakespeare.

Read Jane Austen and Charlotte Bronte even lol

Go tell these people to be more positive lol

I talk in a real/authentic way.

If people want fuzzy land, there are many people out there who will give you fuzzy land but it is not I lol

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I think what Elysia meant was that narrowing the whole empathy process, which is incredibly complex, to only the moon is a bit narrow.
It's like saying fire mars are violent water mars are complacent while Gemini can only ever be fickle.
Air moon may get the shaft for being lacking in term of empathy, and libra moon in particular since it doesn't want to take a side without having heard both parties, but telling that they literally have no empathy is slightly strong of a judgment to make.
It takes much more aspects than that.

I'm not saying that's what you said, Ami. You did specify "placements" as in numerous, however the way your worded your post, you make it seem as if you're looking strictly at the moon and it almost instantaneously became a waging war of which moon is the most empathetic and others trying to defend their own since they were labelled as having no empathy.

posted March 08, 2016 04:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Capricorn Moon
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Their reaction is more like: Ok. What can be done about this? What can I do to help improve this situation?

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OMG! I died This is spot on!

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Originally posted by RoseLily:

To have a lack of empathy I truly think you'd have to be near psychopath and enjoy causing other's pain.

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This or being a sociopath or behold another psychological or personality disorder. In any case those are very harsh conditions and would suggest more than a simple planet placement or aspect, I agree.

posted March 08, 2016 07:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
^^^
I think lack of water it is. Not so much the Moon sign.
I have my Moon in Gemini and I am so empatethic, it hurts. Pisces ASC and lots of natal Neptune action.

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Agreed. I have Gemini Moon, several Neptune aspects and Pisces ASC as well...a lack of empathy has never been an issue for me.

posted March 08, 2016 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Oh for heaven's sake. How much more of this?

And if the moon OP speaks of is so empathetic, how come they didn't feel the pain of those other moons/placements they would be hurting by labeling them as 'little to no empathy'?

If anything, the making of such a thread shows a lack of empathy.
How would you like if someone said that? ^ Doesn't feel good, right? Now can you feel how those other people feel? That's empathy.

It would be better to talk honestly about one's issues out with a professional, rather than collecting and encouraging negativity about what you hate, in order to feel superior.

Not everyone with your mom's placements is a monster. It won't lessen your pain to lash out at those placements universally.

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posted March 08, 2016 08:07 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is the thing.

Things EXIST and just because people do not LIKE them does not make them not exist.

I talk about real/actual/authentic things.

Abuse exists. Lack of empathy exists. People hurting people for selfish reasons exists etc etc

Anyone who reads literature knows that these things exist.

Read "Long Days Journey into Night". Read Shakespeare.

Read Jane Austen and Charlotte Bronte even

Go tell these people to be more positive lol

I talk in a real/authentic way.

If people want fuzzy land, there are many people out there who will give you fuzzy land but it is not I

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Your opionions are not facts and reflect your projection of your own trauma rather than any real objective research or reasoning.

Just because people disagree with your opiinions doesnt mean they cant handle truth. Your own ego jusy cannot takw a difdering opinion, amd again, this is your issue, not everyone elses.

posted March 08, 2016 08:58 PM              

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Originally posted by Spongebob:

Your opionions are not facts and reflect your projection of your own trauma rather than any real objective research or reasoning.

Just because people disagree with your opiinions doesnt mean they cant handle truth. Your own ego jusy cannot takw a difdering opinion, amd again, this is your issue, not everyone elses.

Sorry, not buying what youre sellling.

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posted March 08, 2016 09:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Spongebob:

Your opionions are not facts and reflect your projection of your own trauma rather than any real objective research or reasoning.

Just because people disagree with your opiinions doesnt mean they cant handle truth. Your own ego jusy cannot takw a difdering opinion, amd again, this is your issue, not everyone elses.

Sorry, not buying what youre sellling.

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posted March 08, 2016 09:31 PM            

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posted March 09, 2016 12:41 AM              

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Originally posted by Spongebob:

Your opionions are not facts and reflect your projection of your own trauma rather than any real objective research or reasoning.

Just because people disagree with your opiinions doesnt mean they cant handle truth. Your own ego jusy cannot takw a difdering opinion, amd again, this is your issue, not everyone elses.

Sorry, not buying what youre sellling.

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posted March 09, 2016 08:17 AM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, Orange. Water Void/low water is a classic aspect for low empathy.

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Ah, the old "you disagree so ill be passive aggressive and insinuate youre a sociopath to try and shame you into agreement" thing.

I'll be honest , no offense but I kinda don't care what you think of my empathy levels, you don't know me to speak on it either way; but you're certainly free to spend all day speculating and gossipping about it, which you undoubtedly will.

posted March 09, 2016 09:18 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Water void for sure.

I knew a guy who was pure fire (all planets in Leo) with a Taurus moon and he was about as empathetic as a dry sponge.

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The water void people seem to go nuts when you talk about the water void.

I just finished an article on five placements that make people defensive( and why) but I am not gonna put it up lol

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posted March 09, 2016 11:43 AM            

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Originally posted by deepseastar:
Jeez, all the Libra Moon hate in this thread... but it's OK, I forgive you.

I don't think Libra Moon by itself makes a person unempathetic or cruel. Libra Moon is not inherently good or bad, but its negative side can be emphasized by bad aspects. I have Libra Moon with no water signs and Pluto conj. AC, which makes me a person who prefers to think about emotions cognitively rather than feel them. Fortunately, my Moon is well-aspected with a trine to Venus, which is also in an Air sign (Gemini).

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posted March 09, 2016 12:34 PM            

Empathy would be the same. Some people are super high in empathy. Some people are less so. Some people are lesser so. It is rare, but does happen, that some people have none.

People need to learn to have independent thinking. Don't react on a dime to everything. It is not good for you lol

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posted March 09, 2016 01:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If anyone has studied Psych, there is a Bell Curve. Traits fall on different places on the Bell curve. Empathy would be the same. Some people are super high in empathy. Some people are less so. Some people are lesser so. It is rare, but does happen, that some people have none. People need to learn to have independent thinking. Don't react on a dime to everything. It is not good for you lol

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Except that you seem to thrive off of people's defensiveness. You should know by now just how negatively your posts that seek to only categorize people by placements are received. Yet, you continue to post them and then act all shocked when people have something to say about it. Or you seek to categorize all of us as ignorant or singleminded or what have you. You're quick to judge for someone who is asking for people to not react to everything so quickly.

I stand by what Elysia and SpongeBob have already reiterated...just because people are disagreeing with you does not mean that they lack independent thinking or that they're not as intelligent or well read as you. You're continuing to drop little snide comments here and there as a projection of whatever pain you've endured from a person with little to no empathy. I would be shocked to find one person on these forums who hasn't heard of the bell curve - if they've been to at least one school in the last twenty years, they certainly have. But that has little to do with what most people seem to have a problem with here... You didn't ask about the bell curve of empathy in your original post. You specifically asked about placements that would infer a person with little to no empathy.

I would also like to correct a comment I made here earlier, because you seem to have picked it up and ran with it. I agreed with Orange in reference to her placements, because so many people assume that an air moon can't or won't feel emotions, which is ridiculous. I wasn't agreeing that a lack of water means no empathy or very little of it. I really don't think it has much of anything to do with it...as for what really causes it, I don't know.

posted March 09, 2016 01:32 PM              

What you're saying will slide off like water off a duck's back.

posted March 09, 2016 01:33 PM            

You should learn a life lesson, my Friend. People are not responsible for how OTHERS interpret what they say.

Take care.

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posted March 09, 2016 01:53 PM            

Anyhoo, MOVING ALONG, my Friends!

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posted March 09, 2016 01:54 PM              

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Point taken, Elysia. I will save my words of wisdom for someone who actually listens and wants to be healed.

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