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Topic: The astrology of pilot suicides - any ideas?
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Vajra
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posted March 26, 2015 07:19 PM
  
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Ami Anne
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posted March 26, 2015 08:08 PM
It is not simple pilot suicide. It is terrorism. On the Malaysian one, the pilot screamed Allahu Akbar before he crashed it.  ------------------
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Sagical
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posted March 26, 2015 08:10 PM
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Ami Anne
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posted March 26, 2015 08:13 PM
The first thought in any of these things is terrorism and it seems to pan out in every single one  ------------------
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Soltze
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posted March 26, 2015 08:30 PM
It's so sad and horrible. People's stories made me cry.
What makes me angrier is that the airline company knew the pilot had depression and a break down...and still he went back to training and flying. No one cared to follow up on him and now...so many lives shattered.
Pilots have very stressful lives. There was a big problem in my country because they're not given their legal rest days and stuff like that!!
I'll follow the thread with interest.------------------
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Barbiegirl19
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posted March 26, 2015 08:35 PM
9/11 was an inside job. 
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I personally don't believe it be triggered by anything else other than mental illness. The number of undiagnosed, untreated mentally sick people is out of this world. Its an unfortunate, sad event when a person not only takes his own life but the lives of 149 innocent others. IP: Logged |
BellaFenice
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From: Neptune with PisceanDream, Faith, and Meissieri
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posted March 26, 2015 08:39 PM
Allah akbar was NOT said on the Malaysian flight, and this phrase has only been recorded during plane crashes where terrorism was NOT suspected. The source claiming this was proven to be false- Yahoo News left out an important fact in the story: the black box examiner was telling his experiences of analyzing black boxes not reporting on what was said last in the recent (not last year) Malaysia Airline crash. In other words, pilots during crashes were calling for Allah's help using this phrase. The phrase actually means 'god help us,' so thank you Ami for editing out the word "Muslim" in your above post. I think it is deeper than terrorism, we really do not know the mental state of pilots who decide to commit such atrocious crimes. There are so many reasons why someone may perform such a crime (none which are justified of course). Vajra, would you analyze the pilots' themselves or the plane's date of departure? I'm really too fond of analyzing such horrific things personally, but I am interested to hear what you or anyone finds. RIP to all of those who perished and I hope eventually the families will find some sort of closure.  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted March 26, 2015 08:50 PM
The Last Words Of The Pilot Of The Crashed AirAsia Plane Was “Allahu Akbar! http://shoebat.com/2015/01/14/just-came-last-words-pilot-crashed-airasia-plane-all ahu-akbar/ ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted March 26, 2015 08:51 PM
I am so sad for all the people affected by these terrible acts. Blessings to everyone ------------------
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BellaFenice
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posted March 26, 2015 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The Last Words Of The Pilot Of The Crashed AirAsia Plane Was “Allahu Akbar! http://shoebat.com/2015/01/14/just-came-last-words-pilot-crashed-airasia-plane-all ahu-akbar/
I really do not want to derail the thread here, but at the same time the site you are reporting actually had an update about the sourcing issue and I do not want Islamophobic implications in the thread. Scroll to the bottom and you will find this. Carry on, everyone. IMPORTANT UPDATE: Several publications have obtained (its not only us) the story originally from Yahoo News which they sourced their version of this article to the New Straits Times Online. We changed the article to link to New Straight Times after we were informed that while Yahoo News stated “It is as if we can feel them… Allahuakhbar, Allahuakhbar were the last words said before they died” they left out “he said referring to his experience analising black boxes from past crashes” which was completely left out of the Yahoo News story even though the story is almost identical word for word. Omitting such a crucial detail paints it as if the expert had already listened to the recording which at this time has not been confirmed. Although Yahoo News made the mistake, we apologize for the reporting. Having said this, the fact remains that everything else that was reported is accurate. http://shoebat.com/2015/01/14/just-came-last-words-pilot-crashed-airasia-plane-all ahu-akbar/ IP: Logged |
Sagical
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posted March 26, 2015 09:00 PM
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midnightvenus
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posted March 26, 2015 09:02 PM
Apparently those words mean "God is great". If the last words of a Christian pilot were a catholic prayer, would that mean it was a "pilot suicide"?
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Ami Anne
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posted March 26, 2015 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Sagical:
My heart went into my stomach. Horrifically devastating. Deliberate is extremely disturbing on so many levels. The biggest question is WHY? The victims had full and EVERY right to live. Some had not even started their lives. Families class action lawsuit, I could see coming down the line.
Let's focus on the poor victims. Shall we ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted March 26, 2015 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
Apparently those words mean "God is great". If the last words of a Christian pilot were a catholic prayer, would that mean it was a "pilot suicide"?
There are other things to consider.
It actually doesn't mean that but let's move on, please. Blessings to the poor victims. ------------------
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BellaFenice
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posted March 26, 2015 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by Sagical:
My heart went into my stomach. Horrifically devastating. Deliberate is extremely disturbing on so many levels. The biggest question is WHY? The victims had full and EVERY right to live. Some had not even started their lives. Families class action lawsuit, I could see coming down the line.
Yeah, I think that is the hardest part of this crash. Losing the first Malaysian plane was devastating in the sense those families will never get closure. But for this event, the families will never see the killer have to own up to his crime. @midnightvenus: I heard that translation version too. IP: Logged |
midnightvenus
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posted March 26, 2015 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It actually doesn't mean that but let's move on, please.Blessings to the poor victims.
"‘There are times where the investigators would get unnerved listening to the recording.’
What was chilling, he said was hearing final words like ‘Allahuakhbar (God is Great).’" I read it on DailyMail btw. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2907975/I-imagine-going-listen-words-Agony-AirAsia-crash-investigator-friends-pilot-examine-black-box.html May the victims rest in piece. IP: Logged |
Sagical
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posted March 26, 2015 09:10 PM
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Barbiegirl19
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posted March 26, 2015 09:11 PM
The copilot was a victim of himself as well. I don't think it's fair for anyone to judge the person without knowing the full facts. Yes, it was an absolute heinous act but so was the fact that a person was driven to committing it. I mean can you imagine what must have been going through his head before he took the plane down? That to me is the most tragic being that it could have been prevented. Suicide is the most preventable. It's the one thing we ARE able to control.It's sad for all who lives were lost and their families. IP: Logged |
Peluches
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posted March 26, 2015 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
The copilot was a victim of himself as well. I don't think it's fair for anyone to judge the person without knowing the full facts. Yes, it was an absolute heinous act but so was the fact that a person was driven to committing it. I mean can you imagine what must have been going through his head before he took the plane down? That to me is the most tragic being that it could have been prevented. Suicide is the most preventable. It's the one thing we ARE able to control.It's sad for all who lives were lost and their families.
Exactly my thoughts. Great post  IP: Logged |
Koho
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From: New York
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted March 26, 2015 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
Apparently those words mean "God is great". If the last words of a Christian pilot were a catholic prayer, would that mean it was a "pilot suicide"?
There are other things to consider.
I like this point. ----- This might be the cynicism of my sign placements but after reading the thread and reading constant one liners at the end of statements about how sad the tragedy is and how sad it is for the victims it almost felt like a line politicians say. Almost like a tool to keep tensions down. I've never felt the need to say things like this so it's hard for me to relate so it comes off totally different to me as I read it. I'm sure you all mean it. I'm just making a loud observation since this forum, at its core is about human psychology and our differences expressed via astrology. ----- Don't let the comment derail the thread though IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted March 26, 2015 11:30 PM
The pilot for Malaysia airlines didn't kill those people. The plane was a victim of remote technology used to make the plane go off its course. IP: Logged |
Sagical
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posted March 26, 2015 11:34 PM
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Virgo28
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posted March 26, 2015 11:35 PM
Hey he got 72 virgins and 72 mothers in Law... Not a bad deal for a Snack Bar.It makes me wonder, how come muslims have so much female real state??? At the rate these dumb **** blow/kill themselves, Christians and Jews will end up breeding with their women. ------------------
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Vajra
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posted March 27, 2015 03:35 AM
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next to neptune
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posted March 27, 2015 05:02 AM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
The copilot was a victim of himself as well. I don't think it's fair for anyone to judge the person without knowing the full facts. Yes, it was an absolute heinous act but so was the fact that a person was driven to committing it. I mean can you imagine what must have been going through his head before he took the plane down? That to me is the most tragic being that it could have been prevented. Suicide is the most preventable. It's the one thing we ARE able to control.It's sad for all who lives were lost and their families.
Great post! I think it is so sad to think about that pilot and why he did what he did... I also read that people who commit suicide like that, often don't even register that there is other persons around them. He was probably not doing it because he wanted to kill people, but probably because he saw his way out of this life and took a very drastic move. But still, I am hoping for some other kind of explanation, it's almost to horrifying to think that he made a suicide like that IP: Logged |
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