posted June 05, 2015 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
I have Pluto close to my sun as well. I can understand what you are dealing with. Pluto hit my Yod-Boomerang configuration last year. He did not miss one planet and I got a lesson .
tPluto is in my 8th house and I have 5 planets progressed into Scorpio at the moment.

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Thanks for understanding. Sorry you've had an ordeal, too...that's a lot of planets in Scorpio! Pluto in the 8H...luckily I should be dead before it hits mine.

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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
As Pluto is/was my teacher I do not need people anymore who tell me what I have to do.

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I know what you mean!

posted June 05, 2015 11:44 PM            

Gonna answer you on other threads and with email.

posted June 06, 2015 02:33 AM            

But, I was just contemplating my comfort level with Neptune/Saturn (which are both hitting my Sun/Moon/NN right now, yay) vs my comfort with Pluto/Uranus (which hit my Pluto/Uranus/Saturn about a year ago).

I am waaaayyy more comfortable with Pluto and Uranus than I am with Neptune and Saturn (all of them are pretty active in my chart).

I'm not sure why.

posted June 06, 2015 03:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
... Venus-Pluto aspects.

... never-satisfied SOB of a planet.

I just want to know I'm not alone.

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Venus conjunct Pluto... (I *do* have that).

posted June 06, 2015 04:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Me,too.

The weird thing is I'm always crushing the eggshells anyway, so when I complain about hurting someone's feelings by accident, people are like, "Oh you didn't mean to? But you did it so well."

It's like, why do I even bother....

Anyway good luck to us.

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Btw I feel weird answering everyone's comments sequentially but I'd feel weirder only answering some.

#Damned if you do
#Damned if you don't

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posted June 06, 2015 07:19 AM            

I experience it the same way as you!

posted June 06, 2015 07:54 AM            

Pluto square Sun, conjunct Moon and Midheaven
Mercury, Venus, Mars in the 8th

I'm not uncomfortable with Pluto. I think, if anything, strong Pluto influence in a birth chart gives a person a high TOLERANCE of discomfort. Things that freak other people out or make them uneasy don't really bother me.

It always kind of surprises me, actually, when people describe a certain topic or situation as "scary" or "depressing." Some people just want everything to be light and bright, every moment of the day, and start squirming and shrinking when things get hard-hitting and nitty-gritty. But, Pluto allows me to handle that. To certain people, if it's not something you can laugh about or have fun with, they have no idea what to do or say. I'm not like that and I know how resourceful that makes me.

I wouldn't give up Pluto for anything and the thing is that I'd never be able to, even if I wanted to! The more you see Pluto as your friend, the more he'll enrich you and benefit you. The more you see him as your enemy who makes your living so tormented and difficult, the more that'll be true.

posted June 06, 2015 08:37 AM            

Thanks so much for dropping by, I've been missing you like crazy. And I appreciate hearing about Saturn vs Pluto.

Good luck with your transits, I feel like you and I are both in a War with the Worlds. Well when Saturn turns around again.

*hug*

I hope your move went well?

posted June 06, 2015 08:43 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I'm not trying to be mean but....

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Anytime someone says that, you know you're doomed.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
It's weird because sometimes you can be nice and other times it's like you are constantly mocking people in a passive aggressive and mean-spirited way.

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I don't notice myself ever being passive- aggressive. I'm either passive or aggressive. Last time you told me off, I was just telling you my experiences, and you took everything like I was arguing, just because my experiences contradicted your assumptions. But I was trying to get something through to you.

As for the rest, okay I'll make a note of it.

And leave T alone. I love her. I can love anyone I want, for my own reasons.

Love is not a crime.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Since I've been giving you tough love I'll also say that I genuinely like you when you aren't being a smarta**. So yeah.... There it is right out on the table. Take it however you will.

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posted June 06, 2015 09:26 AM            

Oops, PLEASE email those examples.

posted June 06, 2015 09:57 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I've went on the record several times and told her I think she acts like a drunk when she signs on and tries to needle random people. I say that because everyone has hung out with one of those annoying drunks that gets argumentative and will say things that make you just want to grab them and shake them. And that's what she brings to my mind when she posts the majority of the time.

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This is going overboard.

posted June 06, 2015 11:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Interesting how differently people come across to different people.

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After seeing the allegations, it's usually a case where, I was genuinely trying to be nice, but he thought I was being sarcastic.

posted June 06, 2015 12:01 PM            

Maybe I jsut haven`t met your shadow self yet.

Or my chart simply latches onto different parts of yours and so I donīt see that side of you, even if you come across like that to others.

I think - among other things - having compatible Mercuries is a true blessing.
Actually I am just looking at your chart on my solar fire (yes astro stalker I know ).

And in terms of personal planet aspects there is not much tension I see.

While our Moons are in different elements, yours is trine my Saturn, and it falls into my 3rd house, so the mental channels are always open to me (might be different for your 8th house, though it means both our 8th house planets are trine in a water sign, so even that is a positive thing)

Your Mercury sextiles my Mars-ASC, granted it also squares my Uranus, but so I should be the one annoying the heck out of you, though it might help that Uranus is dispositing your Mercury anyway

I do not really need to talk about your Venus, do I?
Conjunct my Mars-ASC and with a bit wider orb Neptune-NN, square to Jupiter is totally nice as well.

Your Mars trines my Moon pretty exact.

My Sun-Mercury conjuncts your Vertex

My Moon on your Sun/Moon-mp and trine your Mars and sextile your Jupiter.
No complaining here. lol

My Venus sextile your Uranus exact

Our ASCS are trine and yours is even more closely trine my Neptune-NN

your Mercury trine my MC exact.
Well not sure what to make of my Uranus on your IC - you would have to tell me!

The only thing really that I can find is my Saturn opposing your Sun, but again, Saturn disposits your Sun anyway.

oh and your Saturn square my Uranus, not sure about how important that one is but it is rather close.

Hmm, though falling in love with the same guy could turn out being rather problematic, and I would probably be on the losing side with your fiery Aries-Lilith opposing your and my Pluto.

So it might be just our synastry that colours my view on you.

Having said that I can see how some of the things you say might be taken the wrong (like, unintended) way and may be taken more personally than it was maybe meant to, when I see your Aqua-Mercury opposing Saturn and square uranus.
With Mercury also ruling your 3rd house.

Plus Pluto IN the 3rd house opposing Lilith in 9th - yeah, remind me to never cross any lines in terms of principles or beliefs or ideas that are really important to you.
I would even consider it a t-square to the Sun, your chartruler.

posted June 06, 2015 12:21 PM            

Wish I had more time and a better emotional landscape inside to reply to everything...maybe later. I really appreciate everyone's input.

Just wanted to apologize for my comment earlier when I said that I feel like everything is BS. It's an overstatement. I'm sure everyone has the same frustrations with red tape, things being outdated, not running as well as you would like. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone.

Oh and I was kidding about astro-stalking as well. LOL

Anyone who has my birth info is free to look at it however they like. I was just being silly.

posted June 06, 2015 12:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
But, I was just contemplating my comfort level with Neptune/Saturn (which are both hitting my Sun/Moon/NN right now, yay) vs my comfort with Pluto/Uranus (which hit my Pluto/Uranus/Saturn about a year ago).

I am waaaayyy more comfortable with Pluto and Uranus than I am with Neptune and Saturn (all of them are pretty active in my chart).

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Violets, that's very interesting. You may be more comfortable with Uranus-Pluto because you have this aspect in your natal and are familiar with the energy. But then you say Saturn and Neptune are active in your chart as well. But, if you don't have a natal Saturn-Neptune aspect, that may be why it's harder for you.

As a comparison, I have Sun conjunct Pluto and Moon conjunct Uranus natally. The Uranus-Pluto transit was in hard aspect to Moon-Uranus. Other than seeing Plutonic eruptions in women I worked with, I experienced the creative side of the transit and Uranus propelled me forward in a big way. I have no Cap in my chart, only one Saturn aspect and a fire-water chart, so I'm not enamored with Saturn transits.

posted June 06, 2015 01:14 PM            

I am the first to understand a little over-dramatizing for effect (of course there is a core of truth in all we say, but hey, if all world`s a stage, then we sure can be a little theatrical now and then; that`s fun - well Jupiter in 3rd house, maybe just my personal idea of fun).

Pluto - like all of the outers- can be a real pain in the a**, I agree with that.
But like with the human pain in the a** in my life (or brushing my life occasionally) would I want to miss him, despite all of the drama and mess and havoc they both create (Pluto and him)?

No, and partly the reason for this is that I know that I need these experiences, especially if getting too complacent, I need being pinched and pushed out of my comfort zone (okay, more like dragged out of there kicking and biting and screaming).
And on some weird level it feels satisfying, because I know that this is what I need, even though I have occasionally wished for a less complicated personality or life or whatever that is.

posted June 06, 2015 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ Email me the examples, I'm curious.

Oops, PLEASE email those examples.

And please don't talk about T here. She isn't here to defend herself. I act like T because I *am* like T. We have a lot of synastry conjunctions. But there are a lot of differences, too.

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