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Aries23Degrees
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posted January 29, 2020 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
Aries,

"The negative thoughts/self doubt and fears etc. Is a culmination of the collective psyche you have "collected" through various environments you have associated with.
I say this all the time :Moon is the "soaking" up experience in the chart and subject to conditioning. And this is even more so I believe in the highly impressionable 12th house(that has no boundaries).
So you could be confusing what you have picked up on externally to be part in parcel with what you feel internally. Because once again Pisces easily merges and can find it hard to distinguish themselves from others.
Rule of thumb you can use:if it feels affirming, enlightening, opens you up to an exciting broader perspective. Its YOU.
If it causes you to close up, hide, become confused, fearful and "reactive" etc. It comes from outside of you. Detach quickly!"

Great stuff!!


I bope it helps with clarity

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posted January 29, 2020 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gracha:

You actually summed it perfectly. I'm a Gemini moon conjunct north node in 12th and a life path 9. It was the way the psoter spoke aout their feelings and wanting to feel others feelings on a much deeper level etc. My bestfriend is a life path 9 as well and I just a notice a pattern. For all I know the poster could be a life path 3 or 6 lol.

Ah, got you. Thank you for the explanation.

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posted January 29, 2020 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Hey,so am I.

@GalacticCoreExplosion

I think its associated Mars rulership ties into the "beginning" and "end" cycle of Aries /Scorpio.The young soul(Aries) and the old soul (Scorpio)

Mars also represents ending/death and fiery destruction Etc.This due to its traditional association with Scorpio.

Add to that the entry into the unknown turf of the spirit realm.And anything "unknown" is greeted with the sword & shield of Mars.No?

Its manifestation is not the same ofcourse. The Mars ruling the lifepath 9 is (atleast when speaking metaphorically)the last point of evolution before returning to source (which is the number 0).

To go back to that world of nonphysical is also a "remergence"-signified by pioneering Mars. Going from physical to non-physical is a new frontier-albeit more spiritual.


That does make sense in the context that these associations were originally made before Pluto was discovered.

But now that we have Pluto, and realize that Mars was in sense stepping in for or masking Pluto for awhile, no offense to Mars, but we don't need it for 9 since Pluto fits the theme of transformation, death/rebirth, ending of cycles, etc much better than Mars does.

Something that seems to be pretty universal among various numerology sources to talk about 9, is it's universality, desire to positively serve others, and it's compassion (particularly so in the context of 9 life path).

Jupiter is actually a very compassionate and empathic symbol (which is why it co-rules Pisces). Not quite to the degree that Neptune is, but not far, and more over, has more energy, oomph, will power to back it's service to others than does Neptune which inclines over much to passivity and being sort of a mystic who senses/feels it all, but kind of retreats/distances itself from the world--oftentimes because their great sensitivity leads to, "I just can't handle it all".

Jupiter says, I will take my compassion, empathy, and desire to see a better world, and actually go out there and try to enact changes, engage in service, etc. Jupiter in that sense, becomes more other and service focused than does Neptune.

This is why I consider Jupiter actually a slightly faster vibratory archetype than Neptune, though they are both on the similar violet/magenta/purple spectrum and both connect to the 6th Center and Pineal gland (Neptune more towards lavender like shades/tones and Jupiter more royal purple like shades/tones).

The main difference is that Neptune is a lighter shade and more polarized to the blue side of the violet/purple and Jupiter is deeper and has more red saturation/balance.

Neptune "fits" 7 better than 9, all in all.

Interestingly, there are a couple of Cayce readings that seem to back up my intuition about Jupiter vs Neptune, etc. In one reading, Cayce's guidance says that the Sun and Jupiter are the highest forces in our solar system (highest meaning corresponding to the fastest vibratory/most spiritually expanded).

In another reading about color and their meaning in relation to vibration, they say that gold and purple are the highest color vibrations (White/Clear light not being an actual color, but a fully balanced, integrated synthesis of them all i.e. spiritual perfection).

I've long associated golden light with the Sun in an auric and spiritual sense, and a purple, that is sort of between violet and magenta, with Jupiter.

Not surprisingly, a few different sensitives have seen a lot of purple in my aura, which correlates with my rather highlighted Jupiter (and to slightly lesser extent highlighted Neptune, and angular Pisces S. Node).

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posted January 30, 2020 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh nooo how could someone not appreciate your amazing words?! I don't find them overbearing at all, it was very sweet of you and it really did help me, I'm not even exaggerating lol. It's unfortunate that some don't appreciate such sincerity. But like you told me don't let those people get you down, because it means so much more even if just you touch one person. Which you did for me. You're the type of person I aspire to be one day. I really appreciate your kindness. Thank you so much (:

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posted January 30, 2020 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I found the article! http://nakedastrology.blogspot.com/2007/12/living-with-and-loving-12th-house-moon.html

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The article might be helpful for you too!

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posted January 30, 2020 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gracha:
Are you a life path number 9? You seem like one to me.


Oh my gosh ! I forgot I already wrote a reply to this thread until you quoted it LOL sorry I completely forgot. I gave two different perspectives on how I perceived my moon based on how I was feeling lol

Im not a life path number 9 my life path is number 8... so close though!

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posted January 30, 2020 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Maybe the point is not to figure it out? Maybe the point is to strengthen the voice within and drown out sensitive "re"-actions to the environment?

Perhaps the point is not so much to "act" separate from feeling but "feeling" the action? The act of "pre-paving" that Abraham Hicks speaks of i.e when in doubt. Don't-Oprah Winfrey.

The negative thoughts/self doubt and fears etc. Is a culmination of the collective psyche you have "collected" through various environments you have associated with.

I say this all the time :Moon is the "soaking" up experience in the chart and subject to conditioning. And this is even more so I believe in the highly impressionable 12th house(that has no boundaries).

So you could be confusing what you have picked up on externally to be part in parcel with what you feel internally. Because once again Pisces easily merges and can find it hard to distinguish themselves from others.

Rule of thumb you can use:if it feels affirming, enlightening, opens you up to an exciting broader perspective. Its YOU.

If it causes you to close up,hide,become confused, fearful and "reactive" etc. It comes from outside of you. Detach quickly!


That's so interesting, I didn't really think of it that way. Im always fighting these things internally everyday, but I didn't ever think they weren't my thoughts, I thought maybe I just had issues lol
But the rule of the thumb you mentioned, wow thinking that way just might help me with my worries and fears. Everyone on here must be geniuses or something lol you all give such good input. Thanks for the advice!

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posted January 30, 2020 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Noted. That was actually good advice.

I think my Moon in Cancer square from Mars in Lib offends him.Add to that Mars-Merc square.Plus I do have Sun in Sag-Jup conj. So yeah!

I think its because I expect more dynamic conversation? Because with a Moon in Pisces friend,this is how we treat each other.We can be 'sensitive abrasive' ie. we ask the tough questions and go 'there'.

The intent is not to harm but to have more open rapport and authenticity.Leave out the "niceties".And it helps us become considerably closer-which i guess is the overall point of the Moon in water.

But he is Virgo Moon and so the energy is different-even when in the 12th house associated with Pisces.He can be pedantic about what i said in a certain context. As well as the words I used etc.

Plus my Pisces Moon friend has Mercury/ Moon/ Mars conj. I have the same aspects in cardinal T-square formation.So i guess there is that similarity therein with us.

I just may be too abrasive for his more delicate nature. Pity though. Coz I do like him. Oh well


Omg I just found out you are a Sag lol this whole time I thought you were an Aries!
I have spoken to you, and seen your replies on here a whole lot and you have never came off offensive to me. So Im surprised he found you so offensive. Especially because I think people are usually even more blunt/aggressive online than real life! At least I am lol. You always seem nice to me.

Usually I feel like I can tell when someone is deliberately being offensive or if that is just how they some off but don't mean it. I usually understand that not everyone is the same, and some people just talk a certain but don't mean it that way. I had a friend who was like this, and I just got used to how she spoke. Although there were oftentimes we'd bump heads but we were still pretty close nonetheless lol but she did have strong placements. Scorpio sun, Cap moon, Sag mercury.
So maybe his moon is afflicted? Makes his 12th house moon hyper sensitive?

Also how do you define dynamic conversation?
I know for me, maybe he's the same way but I don't open up very easily to people, so it isn't easy for me to talk to them. It takes a lot of time for me to open up. I do better with words through writing. Im a horrible verbal communicator. I used to got to counseling, I had 2 separate counselors but for some reason there was one I felt more comfortable talking with.
I am still very withdrawn though, it's like I want to open up, but Im afraid of getting misunderstood or judged. Maybe he's the same way. Im sure but maybe if you put in more effort, slowly he will open to you and maybe you'll understand each other more. It's worth a shot! 12th house people are usually very shy and if his moon is in Virgo maybe the energies are conflicting? Since they are opposites?

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posted January 30, 2020 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Its easy to be a great parent when you assign the discipline to someone else. Your role is sort of like the "default" Uncle. No heavy duty responsibilities. So that's not fair.

The foundation of a house does not get as much praise as the bricks and mortar. But upon whom is this house built? It is easy to forget/overlook that without the foundation, the house would not be able to stand.

Cap represents 10th house Sat energy.Sat goes out into the world to "get" stuff. The big motivation to do that is always home (Can /4th). This is why they do what they do i.e to show in a tangible way through things/ money/structure etc.that they care.

It is not just reputation (contrary to popular belief) as that forms part of the career. But the Cap wants to be "useful" in a practical way to those they hold dear.

Being a Cap Moon is sort of a double edged sword.Do you ignore rules and shaky structure which is necessary for sturdiness in favour of "getting along"?

Or do you become more stringent in having a strong structure and robust framework with the result of being called a b*** or an a**** for your hardball stance? No easy answer.

I have regrettably called some ex Cap Moons both of the above btw And it was because of pure frustration of trying to get them to "feel" and let their guard down once in a while.

Cap is Cardinal and is not fixed earth.This means it is dynamic and can change if it sees the benefit of the long term.Well Cap Moon, here it is;

I am not saying that "turn" and be a Cancer. That's not possible. I don't want any Caps to do this. I was(still am) attracted to you guys for the reason that you are Cap.

But give credit where it is due. And make it count. Make it a showstopper. Because the heavy influence of your Saturnine energy goes much,much further than Cancer.

You can forget a Cancer insult. But you remember and even internalize a Caps praise (because it is so long in coming that you believe it sincere). Consider that when dealing with your daughter.

She will not recall (when older) going to school with new clothes, backpack or "things" you got her.She will recall HOW you spoke to her and HOW that made her FEEL.

Were the bils paid?Did you pay for her dancing classes? Is she in school on time? Thats the foundation.As I said earlier,nobody remembers that.

But she will recall you watching her recital, recall you picking her up from school to go for ice cream and bonding etc.These are memories she is collecting to regurgitate and salivate on when she is older & you are no more.Remember that.

All of us appreciate your diligence Cap Moon We really do. This is what makes you guys so fantastic and effective.

But you'd do well to give the "emotional" stuff more weight. You really,really should. As that is all that remains all in all in the long-run.

Children don't care how rich or poor they are.Not to say that they'll enjoy living in abject poverty and as parent you should do nothing. No.

But what I am saying is that they care if they are adored. They care that you care and SHOW them affection in thought,word and deed. This is what they recall about you as a parent.

#Recall Sex and the City (the 2nd movie) when Miranda (Cap Moon) went to see her son's recital? And how she always used to miss them due to business obligations?

See how wonderfully suprised her son was? This is the stuff kids recall as adults.Not the business contracts you had to close to provide for them.

Even though these contracts/structure was NECESSARY for you to provide for them, its background music for them. What counts is that you were there

Metaphorically speaking,the archetype Moon in Cap hires a a competent governess for her children. She wants what is best for them. They don't know her touch. She forgets that SHE is what is best for them. They recall that they didn't know her as loving at all. Purpose defeated.

Archetype Cancer Moon wants wants what is best for her children. She is convinced that she IS what is best for them.And so she gives ALL of herself to them. Even to the point of excess.They know her touch,they feel her inside long after she is dead and gone.

Get my point


Ha! You're right on. Fortunately I am a cancer sun, so I hear you! It's hard to balance each side. I take your words to heart, I do!

Interestingly, I try to be both and everything and all. Cap moon takes its endeavors seriously and I am career oriented, parent oriented, and provider oriented. And I admire Cancer moons for their ability to soften. There is always that struggle between the two moon signs, but much to be learned. Despite our differences, actually watching him and seeing how easily he expresses affection has been helpful in encouraging me to soften. I have a long way to go, and yes b**ch could fit me well in scenarios.... but I have the other side too. I just have to make that my more often used mode!

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posted January 30, 2020 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
@Brenda_S
I found the article! [URL=http://nakedastrology.blogspot.com/2007/12/living-with-and-loving-12th-house-moon.html]http://nakedastrology.blogspot.com/2007/12/living-with-and-loving-12th-house-moon.html[/ URL]

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The article might be helpful for you too!


Oh my goodness So profound really. Thank you for this.And to think that I was the one (in this scenario) asking the invasive questions?

He would often respond with "I don't know" and I would say "What do you mean you don't know? You must know. Describe it to me." Then he would say "Words fail me".

And then I would get frustated and feel like he wants to block me out or is finding me "annoying"(or perhaps both).

Seeing that,I would respond with "well, nevermind.Talk to you sometime again. Goodbye!" The interaction would feel so draining to me because I am trying to get a stone to bleed.

I would always close off our conversations abruptly out of pure frustration. And he wouldn't understand why i would get so frustrated. But i would. And perhaps I was the "energy vampire" here because I was yearning for exchange?

Maybe that's the crux of the square relationship between the 12th(Pisces) and the 3rd(Gem)?One is ALL about EXPRESSION . Whilst the other MORE about IMPRESSION ?

Moon in 3rd house lives and breathes on information sharing, words and exchange. I literally am "fed"(Moon)to the brim by all of you on here by your willingness to converse(3rd). And I remember telling him this explicitly i.e words feed me.

Now admittedly he did say he was terrible on the phone or with sms. But then we met... Can you say awkward? I had to carry the direction of the conversation (whatever little there was)

Now if you deny,postpone or inhibit my Moon from "feeding", you are inadvertently "starving" me.Atleast metaphorically.And
therein lies the rub.

So it matters not how much you "say" you "love" me or like me etc. If you don't engage with me and close off, it's like telling a child that you care but deny them food.

Now to the same child, if you give them food without telling them you love them etc. You may not have said you love em. But they def "feel" you do. Catch my drift?

When I am reading a good book watching a doc or engaged in a delicious convo etc. I literally forget to eat. Infact, I don't get physically hungry.

Now bless this writer for having the patience to wait. I dont Because i still think connections must be naturally made instead of "forced".

Too many times in our conversations, have I been the starter. And he being the more one worded distant one. Albeit i now understand through this article why that is.

But i think he'll need someone who is more of a "telepath" with less urgent needs for communication. And I am NOT the one

Great link

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posted January 30, 2020 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
That does make sense in the context that these associations were originally made before Pluto was discovered.

But now that we have Pluto, and realize that Mars was in sense stepping in for or masking Pluto for awhile, no offense to Mars, but we don't need it for 9 since Pluto fits the theme of transformation, death/rebirth, ending of cycles, etc much better than Mars does.

Something that seems to be pretty universal among various numerology sources to talk about 9, is it's universality, desire to positively serve others, and it's compassion (particularly so in the context of 9 life path).

Jupiter is actually a very compassionate and empathic symbol (which is why it co-rules Pisces). Not quite to the degree that Neptune is, but not far, and more over, has more energy, oomph, will power to back it's service to others than does Neptune which inclines over much to passivity and being sort of a mystic who senses/feels it all, but kind of retreats/distances itself from the world--oftentimes because their great sensitivity leads to, "I just can't handle it all".

Jupiter says, I will take my compassion, empathy, and desire to see a better world, and actually go out there and try to enact changes, engage in service, etc. Jupiter in that sense, becomes more other and service focused than does Neptune.

This is why I consider Jupiter actually a slightly faster vibratory archetype than Neptune, though they are both on the similar violet/magenta/purple spectrum and both connect to the 6th Center and Pineal gland (Neptune more towards lavender like shades/tones and Jupiter more royal purple like shades/tones).

The main difference is that Neptune is a lighter shade and more polarized to the blue side of the violet/purple and Jupiter is deeper and has more red saturation/balance.

Neptune "fits" 7 better than 9, all in all.

Interestingly, there are a couple of Cayce readings that seem to back up my intuition about Jupiter vs Neptune, etc. In one reading, Cayce's guidance says that the Sun and Jupiter are the highest forces in our solar system (highest meaning corresponding to the fastest vibratory/most spiritually expanded).

In another reading about color and their meaning in relation to vibration, they say that gold and purple are the highest color vibrations (White/Clear light not being an actual color, but a fully balanced, integrated synthesis of them all i.e. spiritual perfection).

I've long associated golden light with the Sun in an auric and spiritual sense, and a purple, that is sort of between violet and magenta, with Jupiter.

Not surprisingly, a few different sensitives have seen a lot of purple in my aura, which correlates with my rather highlighted Jupiter (and to slightly lesser extent highlighted Neptune, and angular Pisces S. Node).


Am with you there.Was not really disputing it at all as much as offering my own reasoning as to why they say Mars is associated with the number 9 Lifepath.

# sidenote. I have no idea what my colour aura is. I wonder if I can see my own? Can one train themselves to "see" auras? Even if they are not of her own?

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posted January 30, 2020 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
That's so interesting, I didn't really think of it that way. Im always fighting these things internally everyday, but I didn't ever think they weren't my thoughts, I thought maybe I just had issues lol
But the rule of the thumb you mentioned, wow thinking that way just might help me with my worries and fears. Everyone on here must be geniuses or something lol you all give such good input. Thanks for the advice!

Glad i could assist.

All water signs/water houses have energy distinction problems.This emphasizes their need for psychic boundaries (this especially Pisces). That's where the earth enervy/earth house energy comes in(boundaries).

Ever felt light and good in the morning and then as you step out your door,you literally feel the "pull" of negativity around you?

Its like you feel drained by the noise, the pollution, the people you bump into etc. And when you get to your destination. You are tired and feel like sleeping?

You picked up on energy currents everywhere and soaked them in unconsciously. This makes the body TIRED because its mostly negative energy. You are not "crazy" but you are acutely sensitive to those things.

So like a dog that seems to bark at everything & anything around it-annoying the neighbors,this is your response to the external.

Its not that the dog is "crazy" or "mad" etc the dog is stressed,"responding" & "reacting" through external stimulus like it's on autopilot. Very destabilizing for the dog.

But a centred dog, a calm dog etc. Has their nose to the ground.Blocking out everything and focusing on the here and now i.e Nose, ears and eyes. Instead of eyes,ears and "maybe" nose.

So you too must find your inner "nose" and block out all the external noises.The "nose" will get progressively stronger & you will be able to just "know" things more intuitively.

Much of the chaos is from the outside. It doesn't come from within.And this is because of the myriad of experiences that human life has to offer.

BUT if you are not vigilant and discerning of this(borrow from Virgo energy),you easily end up "mirroring" the external chaos internally and then making it YOUR problem. It is not.

And this would be like creating your own inner "hell" unnecessarily.

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posted January 30, 2020 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Omg I just found out you are a Sag lol this whole time I thought you were an Aries!
I have spoken to you, and seen your replies on here a whole lot and you have never came off offensive to me. So Im surprised he found you so offensive. Especially because I think people are usually even more blunt/aggressive online than real life! At least I am lol. You always seem nice to me.

Usually I feel like I can tell when someone is deliberately being offensive or if that is just how they some off but don't mean it. I usually understand that not everyone is the same, and some people just talk a certain but don't mean it that way. I had a friend who was like this, and I just got used to how she spoke. Although there were oftentimes we'd bump heads but we were still pretty close nonetheless lol but she did have strong placements. Scorpio sun, Cap moon, Sag mercury.
So maybe his moon is afflicted? Makes his 12th house moon hyper sensitive?

Also how do you define dynamic conversation?
I know for me, maybe he's the same way but I don't open up very easily to people, so it isn't easy for me to talk to them. It takes a lot of time for me to open up. I do better with words through writing. Im a horrible verbal communicator. I used to got to counseling, I had 2 separate counselors but for some reason there was one I felt more comfortable talking with.
I am still very withdrawn though, it's like I want to open up, but Im afraid of getting misunderstood or judged. Maybe he's the same way. Im sure but maybe if you put in more effort, slowly he will open to you and maybe you'll understand each other more. It's worth a shot! 12th house people are usually very shy and if his moon is in Virgo maybe the energies are conflicting? Since they are opposites?


Yes. Sag Sun.

The sensitivity you speak of comes from Moon in Cancer in house 3 conj Ic. I know we are online, but I still think to care for others and not be reckless with words.

I appreciate the link you gave there to that blog. It was insightful. And i think you further reiterated what the writer of that blog had to say.

Ouch yes, Sun in Sco/Moon in Cap can he harsh. This especially the men. I'm sleeping with one.The only thing that blinds me to it for now is because he is gorgeous

What i mean by "dynamic" btw is: vigorous exchange of words and dialogue. When you are so into the conversation, one topic spills over and morphs to another. Laughter, aha moments, debate etc.

I feel "robbed" by him coz its like I find him so fascinating. But when he does open up, I am like a desert - so hungry for water, I burn the little rain I get into smoke

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posted January 30, 2020 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Ha! You're right on. Fortunately I am a cancer sun, so I hear you! It's hard to balance each side. I take your words to heart, I do!

Interestingly, I try to be both and everything and all. Cap moon takes its endeavors seriously and I am career oriented, parent oriented, and provider oriented. And I admire Cancer moons for their ability to soften. There is always that struggle between the two moon signs, but much to be learned. Despite our differences, actually watching him and seeing how easily he expresses affection has been helpful in encouraging me to soften. I have a long way to go, and yes b**ch could fit me well in scenarios.... but I have the other side too. I just have to make that my more often used mode!


I get you on the "balance" part too.I am cusp Sag/Cap born and I do feel the expression of Saturn Cap pulling for more boundaries and rules.

I do appear "strict" to people who don't know me well.But that's because I am very disciplined and try to get things DONE.

But i am a lot more sensitive than outwardly showing.It shows up more on one on one.

I want to balance this sensitive nature with the disciplined one. Whilst not leaving out my zany Sag side

Do you have your midpoint in Lib/Ari axis?

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posted January 30, 2020 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moongaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Are you Aries Rising? This double emphasis of your Moon in Pisces AND in the 12th is highly psychic.

You are perhaps the one person who needs the most alone time and privacy. This especially with Mercury in 4th (alone with your thoughts). Trying to make sense of what is happening within you(Mercury in Cancer)

I empathize.I am Moon in Cancer in 3rd house of Gemini. I talk/think a lot about how I feel. Trying to also make sense of what is happening within.

But I think with your Moon in Pisces, the answers that comfort you are more open-ended and evolving/more eclectic than specific. And that's okay.

I have a best friend with Moon in Pisces. Very deep person there. In many ways I would say deeper than I am.

Find you a Moon in Cancer or Scor friend. Beautiful rapport there. Uncanny mental telepathy if all other factors agree.But only the former evolved types. Otherwise some Can/Sco can drain you of the little energy you have


Yes, I am. I wouldn't say I am very psychic, at least not at this juncture in my life, though I've experienced some prophetic dreams and synchronicities before. Definitely need alone time, preferably for hours each day. A tendency toward multiple possibilities rather than specificity is true, but also, I find, can keep me lost in a haze. And I have had really good experiences with both of those moons, especially Cancer Moons. Thanks!

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Im glad as well I was able to find someone with this same weird paradox lol it's almost like a game of ping pong. I get what you mean about the daydreaming. I do the same but I do it while listening to music. Through the lyrics I feel I am able to imagine myself expressing the emotions behind the song so well but in reality I can't do that. It's like you're superwoman in your daydreams then you have to mingle in the mundane life and it just isn't the same. I always have the urge to stay listening to music, but thanks to that Im not really good at functioning in real life. Everything is always more perfect in the imagination, that's why I think 12th house are prone to it. I think because you feel lost and daydreams where you don't have to worry about feeling lost I suppose.


Thank you for those tips! I actually began trying to oil paint a year ago, because I became fascinated with surrealism art, I wanted to create some myself. But it's difficult, very difficult. I remember many of my dreams well and I think they'd make good artwork, and I come up with good ideas in my head but I just can't seem to apply it to real life. And I get frustrated because I don't have enough focus to sit there trying and learning all the techniques I just want to get to the painting! but there's so much that goes into it. But you got me inspired to want to try again! I think I'll just do what you said, and not care about the outcome being perfect and hopefully I'll learn on the way. But maybe I should try out an easier medium for now lol and slowly get to oil painting.
I definitely have to learn to be consistent !
Thank you for your advice! Im going to keep them in mind definitely (:


Yeah, try it again! I couldn't paint anything well, even when I had experience with watercolor and acrylic. Until I tried oil, but that's just me. What works for one person may not for another, so maybe a medium like acrylic might be better for you. And what you can do in order to apply your dreams into reality is look for references that resemble what you see in your dreams, like searching for images on google. And then you can apply those references you collected to create something new and unique. Unless the art is very abstract, it's actually uncommon for artists to not use any kind of reference, even if merely for shading purposes. I always use them whenever I work on something. Also, screw the techniques. Some people are not methodical in their approach, and I'm not either. I never think when I'm working on something, it's all very intuitive. I just keep at it until I like it, layer by layer. Maybe try it like that...just dive in! Put on some of your favorite tunes, and you're set.

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[b] Am with you there.Was not really disputing it at all as much as offering my own reasoning as to why they say Mars is associated with the number 9 Lifepath.

# sidenote. I have no idea what my colour aura is. I wonder if I can see my own? Can one train themselves to "see" auras? Even if they are not of her own?


Dunno. Many folks probably could be trained to see auras, including their own, I suppose, especially if they are more visually oriented. I rarely have ever seen the colors physically. It's easy for me to see the off whitish etheric glow around people, but when people speak of auras and aura colors, they are most referencing to either the emotional and/or especially the more consistent "mental" layers to the aura.

I've found that the mental layer corresponds strongly to our strong Planetary energies. The emotional layer corresponds to our strongest Signs, especially Moon Sign natally and to a lesser extent P Moon.

But I've learned there are other ways to pick up info about the aura. Back when I was trying to figure out what colors went with what Planets and Signs, etc, when I would do charts for people, I would tune in more intuitively and trying to figure out their strongest colors--more in a feeling/sensing/intuiting sense than in a seeing sense.

Then I realized because of the Law of Like attracts, begets, resonates with, and likes Like, that most people tend to like and gravitate most to those colors which are strongest in their auras, especially in the mental layer/level.

I.e. Jupitarians tended to like purples, Neptunians tends to like lighter blue violets like lavender, Martians tended to like reds, Mercurians tended to like yellows and/or tans, Venuisans tended to like lighter softer green blue and blue green shades or emerald green shades, Plutonians often liked aubergine type dark red purple shades, Lunar folks tended to like coral pinks and pale greens, Saturnians tended to like power colors like blacks, reds and dark blues, Uranians like extreme mixes or combos of fast vibratory and slow vibratory colors together like say red and indigo, etc.

Basically, when I got good at "guessing" people's consistent favorite colors, I knew I was on to something. But it's hard, because these can and do change somewhat depending on the cycle one is in and how they are using their freewill.

When I was little I absolutely loved a combo of bright yellow and deepish but bright blue. As I got older, I started liking purple more and more. Now I gravitate most to golden and white, though I still really like certain purple, blue-violet, blue, and blue green shades and tones (I also like a specific rose pink some).

All this to say, you can pick up on this info in other intuitive ways besides seeing.

However, you all may be interested to know that my acquaintance, whom many consider to be The biographer of Cayce, Sidney Kirkpatrick is now making and selling a version of Cayce's "aurascope" which makes it far easier for the many to start to see the aura more visually.

It's a pretty simple but ingenious device, and just involves rotating different colored lenses over a period of time, and then going back to the clear lens. Both my partner and I tried his original prototype/model, and after awhile, both of us started to see various levels/layers of color around each other. As one practiced more and more, more layers and depth was revealed.

At first, you only see a little hint of a color or two and very close to the body and around certain parts of the body more than others, but as mentioned, the more you do it, the more colors and layers are revealed and the further out from the body it becomes.

Hence, it is not the whole "after image" opposite/complementary color affect that some skeptics might think it is.

I don't know if they are selling to the public at large yet, but if any are interested, I can get in touch and ask him about it? I think he was selling them for around a 100 dollars, but I can look into that as well?

As to your aura, I get the sense that one of your predominant colors (in the mental layer) is a reddish purple. More red saturated than magenta purple, not too light nor too dark, sort of medium but a little closer to the lighter side. Also some definite yellows and some nice, somewhat lighter greens, but these are more secondary to the reddish purple.

The reddish purple feels like it relates to a mix of either Jupiter and Mars strong at the same time, or Sagittarius and Aries or Mars strong at the same time. The yellow to Mercury and/or strong Aries. Green to Moon or Cancer combined with some Venus.

As to the meaning of same, the reddish purple indicates a lot of passion/intensity, and a strong combination of a strong physicality with a tendency towards temper at times, with also some spiritual leanings, intuitiveness, tolerance, etc blended in and counter balancing. The yellow relates to a strong, developed, and mostly high minded intellect. Lighter green to a softer, more receptive Yin/Feminine emotional side, that is somewhat giving and nurturing. Also a tendency to like minor change as long as self is choosing same (i.e. not Saturnian or Uranian major change of a testing nature that seems to come out of the blue).

Conversely, what I would do, is find say 3 to 5 people who claim to see auras, go to each within a short period of time and see if or where they most agree. Where they most agree, is likely accurate seeing of your strongest colors/energies in the mental layer/level sense.

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Dunno. Many folks probably could be trained to see auras, including their own, I suppose, especially if they are more visually oriented. I rarely have ever seen the colors physically. It's easy for me to see the off whitish etheric glow around people, but when people speak of auras and aura colors, they are most referencing to either the emotional and/or especially the more consistent "mental" layers to the aura.

I've found that the mental layer corresponds strongly to our strong Planetary energies. The emotional layer corresponds to our strongest Signs, especially Moon Sign natally and to a lesser extent P Moon.

But I've learned there are other ways to pick up info about the aura. Back when I was trying to figure out what colors went with what Planets and Signs, etc, when I would do charts for people, I would tune in more intuitively and trying to figure out their strongest colors--more in a feeling/sensing/intuiting sense than in a seeing sense.

Then I realized because of the Law of Like attracts, begets, resonates with, and likes Like, that most people tend to like and gravitate most to those colors which are strongest in their auras, especially in the mental layer/level.

I.e. Jupitarians tended to like purples, Neptunians tends to like lighter blue violets like lavender, Martians tended to like reds, Mercurians tended to like yellows and/or tans, Venuisans tended to like lighter softer green blue and blue green shades or emerald green shades, Plutonians often liked aubergine type dark red purple shades, Lunar folks tended to like coral pinks and pale greens, Saturnians tended to like power colors like blacks, reds and dark blues, Uranians like extreme mixes or combos of fast vibratory and slow vibratory colors together like say red and indigo, etc.

Basically, when I got good at "guessing" people's consistent favorite colors, I knew I was on to something. But it's hard, because these can and do change somewhat depending on the cycle one is in and how they are using their freewill.

When I was little I absolutely loved a combo of bright yellow and deepish but bright blue. As I got older, I started liking purple more and more. Now I gravitate most to golden and white, though I still really like certain purple, blue-violet, blue, and blue green shades and tones (I also like a specific rose pink some).

All this to say, you can pick up on this info in other intuitive ways besides seeing.

However, you all may be interested to know that my acquaintance, whom many consider to be The biographer of Cayce, Sidney Kirkpatrick is now making and selling a version of Cayce's "aurascope" which makes it far easier for the many to start to see the aura more visually.

It's a pretty simple but ingenious device, and just involves rotating different colored lenses over a period of time, and then going back to the clear lens. Both my partner and I tried his original prototype/model, and after awhile, both of us started to see various levels/layers of color around each other. As one practiced more and more, more layers and depth was revealed.

At first, you only see a little hint of a color or two and very close to the body and around certain parts of the body more than others, but as mentioned, the more you do it, the more colors and layers are revealed and the further out from the body it becomes.

Hence, it is not the whole "after image" opposite/complementary color affect that some skeptics might think it is.

I don't know if they are selling to the public at large yet, but if any are interested, I can get in touch and ask him about it? I think he was selling them for around a 100 dollars, but I can look into that as well?

As to your aura, I get the sense that one of your predominant colors (in the mental layer) is a reddish purple. More red saturated than magenta purple, not too light nor too dark, sort of medium but a little closer to the lighter side. Also some definite yellows and some nice, somewhat lighter greens, but these are more secondary to the reddish purple.

The reddish purple feels like it relates to a mix of either Jupiter and Mars strong at the same time, or Sagittarius and Aries or Mars strong at the same time. The yellow to Mercury and/or strong Aries. Green to Moon or Cancer combined with some Venus.

As to the meaning of same, the reddish purple indicates a lot of passion/intensity, and a strong combination of a strong physicality with a tendency towards temper at times, with also some spiritual leanings, intuitiveness, tolerance, etc blended in and counter balancing. The yellow relates to a strong, developed, and mostly high minded intellect. Lighter green to a softer, more receptive Yin/Feminine emotional side, that is somewhat giving and nurturing. Also a tendency to like minor change as long as self is choosing same (i.e. not Saturnian or Uranian major change of a testing nature that seems to come out of the blue).

Conversely, what I would do, is find say 3 to 5 people who claim to see auras, go to each within a short period of time and see if or where they most agree. Where they most agree, is likely accurate seeing of your strongest colors/energies in the mental layer/level sense.


This is very fascinating. Wow. I need to look closer into this. Reddish-purple you say?Hmmm

I will tell you that there is a certain colours that I seem to choose time and again-desaturated red ,yellow,gold and all colours that are affiliated with the Sun. They have to be warm,light and radiating.

Reddish purple? Not so much. That could also be because Mercury is the strongest planet in my chart.

I like Red though. Absolutely. Different shades of it remind me of (once again) sunset. Things revolving around the Sun.

Even my real life name literally means "the one who illuminates". And no, my parents are not a part of some secret society or the illuminati lol

My Aunt named me because she loved names associated with light,the Sun or warmth. I myself am planning to name my child "Langa". In Xhosa it literally means "Sun".

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Thank you for the feedback and further info Aries23Degrees.

The thing is, if your aura was mostly or only yellows and reds, chances are, you would have very little interest or focus on things like astrology or spirituality. Such an aura would indicate a very material minded person who only believes in and perceives the flesh.

True Golden Light (White Light damped down a bit and infused with some yellow of the mind) would definitely incline towards spirituality, greater awareness, etc, but ime it's very rare in auras in the mental layer and corresponds with very strong Sun and/or Arcturus (I don't remember what your full chart looks like).

But otherwise, this by nature, almost has to involve some sort of blue attunement somewhere, and for me, it feels mixed in with your strong red i.e. Aries, Mars, etc. It is at the blue frequency/vibration that we start to become aware of the nonphysical levels and realities in a true knowing/perceiving way (and not just cultural or familial religious belief/dogma/brainwashing).

Interestingly, both Scorpio and Sagittarius have a reddish purple feel and vibe to me, but Scorpio far deeper/darker and more red saturated and Sagittarius brighter, lighter and somewhat more blue balanced.

It would be interesting to see what some sensitives in-physical would say though.

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Thank you for the feedback and further info Aries23Degrees.

The thing is, if your chart was mostly or only yellows and reds, chances are, you would have very little interest or focus on things like astrology or spirituality. Such an aura would indicate a very material minded person who only believes in and perceives the flesh.

True Golden Light (White Light damped down a bit and infused with some yellow of the mind) would definitely incline towards spirituality, greater awareness, etc, but ime it's very rare in auras in the mental layer and corresponds with very strong Sun and/or Arcturus (I don't remember what your full chart looks like).

But otherwise, this by nature, almost has to involve some sort of blue attunement somewhere, and for me, it feels mixed in with your strong red i.e. Aries, Mars, etc. It is at the blue frequency/vibration that we start to become aware of the nonphysical levels and realities in a true knowing/perceiving way (and not just cultural or familial religious belief/dogma/brainwashing).

Interestingly, both Scorpio and Sagittarius have a reddish purple feel and vibe to me, but Scorpio far deeper/darker and more red saturated and Sagittarius brighter, lighter and somewhat more blue balanced.

It would be interesting to see what some sensitives in-physical would say though.


Hmmm...wow. Well my chart is mostly Sag and Scorpio and the cardinal grand cross.

Sun/Jup/Nep/Uran in Sag
Ven/Sat/Pluto in Sco
Mars/Merc/Moon in Lib/Cap/Cap resp
Aries Asc/Mc Cap.

The blue attunement does make sense. I have always been interested in concepts geared towards "self discovery ".I thought its mostly a Mars thing-Aries self centred focus.

Thank you.

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I get you on the "balance" part too.I am cusp Sag/Cap born and I do feel the expression of Saturn Cap pulling for more boundaries and rules.

I do appear "strict" to people who don't know me well.But that's because I am very disciplined and try to get things DONE.

But i am a lot more sensitive than outwardly showing.It shows up more on one on one.

I want to balance this sensitive nature with the disciplined one. Whilst not leaving out my zany Sag side

Do you have your midpoint in Lib/Ari axis?


Midpoint of Sun Moon? Yes- late Libra/Aries. MC Virgo/Pisces. I definitely relate to all my "points".

Does your moon square your asc? I am curious about that and how it feels. I would guess your presentation of yourself- you coming across as disciplined and cold is at odds with your Cancer nature. My ex is cancer sun and widely square his Libra ascendant. Moon and Mercury are in Cancer too. He's very watery.

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moon on my south node is the thorn in my side. square pluto on my mc and sun n merc on ic. the only fire planet i have. in leo intercepted in the 7th. been trying my best to integrate it since child hood i knew there was an issue with it. its extremely powerful and have witnessed its integration to some extent.

just going through my saturn return to release what ever residual energy thats stuck in my past life. i believe its just fear at this point. I mean the afraid type of fear. ive integrated the fears that are meant to be over come. this last dark night of the soul ill probably be paralyzed by it. i just want to get it over with so i can get back to lightn sht on fire

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Midpoint of Sun Moon? Yes- late Libra/Aries. MC Virgo/Pisces. I definitely relate to all my "points".

Does your moon square your asc? I am curious about that and how it feels. I would guess your presentation of yourself- you coming across as disciplined and cold is at odds with your Cancer nature. My ex is cancer sun and widely square his Libra ascendant. Moon and Mercury are in Cancer too. He's very watery.


I have Sun/Moon midpoint in Ari/Lib-7 Degrees.

Aspects to Mars/Asc/Uranus imo speak of breaking away or breaking off from the connected planetary psyche.

Asc square Moon,the conditioned self (Moon) disagrees with the adhoc self identity(Asc).

This creates a constant "belonging" crisis i.e always questioning ones early conditioning (Moon) against the backdrop of the adhoc self(Asc)

As the individual is constantly feeling a need to "break off"(square) & express oneself(Asc) because they don't identify with the early conditioning (Moon).

I don't feel safe or wholly accepted in my family. So that has me mantain independence from them.

In a way,this independence is metaphorically the "square" or breaking off from them in that I don't expect to be the recipient of their support.Not from a crucial fundamental level I dont (Moon).

The square of the Sun to the Asc is quite challenging.

Your ex was likely a man who often felt like he was experiencing a career/lack of clear direction crisis.

Here the adhoc self(Asc) wants to merge with self actualization(Sun) but cannot. The two are at odds.

This is like knowing that you "should" be going to India (Sun). But being pulled by instincts to a differing place(square) like Spain(Asc).

The feeling of not being totally settled or satisfied with where his life is going is always there.

As a partner, it makes him quite unpredictable & not the type to "build" on. Because he is always looking to be independent of any confinements (the Aries Dsc reiterates this)

This would also result in having problems with authority figures etc.As the direction or self actualization (Sun) is always being scrutinised & re-evaluated(square) by the adhoc self(Asc)

So this is a person who may spontaneously change career directions or not be the type who is satisfied with a comfortable career-as the conscious goals are always being re-valued to see their worth or re-examined etc.

They go on on one route and then later question (as they become more aware of who they are(Asc)) whether that route was the right one for them i.e Did I make the right decision? Am i going the right way?

Perhaps the self-actualization point of the native is open-ended? In that they have to afford themselves the freedom to be versatile enough to change course in the 11th hour?

Look to what house the Sun rules. If its in the 10th, the career is always undergoing change. If in the 11th, the associated friends/company one belongs to, is always undergoing change.

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Think about it


Thank you very much for in-depth analysis. So from now all have to is boost up my self esteem. I have to feel good every time about myself. May be little self boasts will help. I have to show I'm really worth with current what I am. Then good things will automatically comes to me. I will try to talk good things about me from now. It's very tough to change so much old habits but I will try. I'm the best. I'm best in the world at what I do.

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I've a 7H Moon. Can relate to emotional dependency in partnerships and being highly adaptable to others, also some Cancerian traits like being nurturing and like to be physically close to my partner which includes the need to hug/touch my partner when I sleep. My Moon is conjunct Neptune so it makes me extremely sensitive to others' moods/feelings especially towards my partner.

Even though I'm drawn to partnerships, I don't jump from one relationship to the next. In fact, I've had long periods where I was single. I believe this is the influence of my Sag Moon trine Jupiter.

Also, something else about the 7H Moon... conflicts deeply affect us. I asked a friend who also has a 7H Moon and it's the same for him. Whenever we have a quarrel with our partner or someone we care about, it's almost certain that we'll lose sleep over it. Because of this, we're very likely to give in.

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Thank you very much for in-depth analysis. So from now all have to is boost up my self esteem. I have to feel good every time about myself. May be little self boasts will help. I have to show I'm really worth with current what I am. Then good things will automatically comes to me. I will try to talk good things about me from now. It's very tough to change so much old habits but I will try. I'm the best. I'm best in the world at what I do.

You will naturally fall off the wagon.That's normal.As your thoughts have been successfully trained to make you think that feeling "less than" is your "normal".

But should it happen that you fall off.You look towards tomorrow as a new opportunity, perhaps even the next hour.

I am not speaking of a fake laugh/smile-as that won't do.Thats exhausting to pull off. But genuine feelings that lift you up and make you feel better.

The "traffic is starting to move" feeling after a congested point on the highway.

The "your vitals are improving" feeling the doctor gives you after an illness.

I am not talking about "ecstasy" or a "high". As that has an inevitable "down". But progressive, "I am not that bad" to "I feel good" and eventually "I feel fantastic and I bring this energy everywhere I go" static feeling.

As people, we are naturally drawn to people that radiate a warmth.And that's because we want to rub off some of this warmth on to ourselves.

Its too attractive to resist and has little to do with physical beauty (contrary to popular belief). Keep at it.

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