posted February 10, 2020 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Hmmm...wow. Well my chart is mostly Sag and Scorpio and the cardinal grand cross.

Sun/Jup/Nep/Uran in Sag
Ven/Sat/Pluto in Sco
Mars/Merc/Moon in Lib/Cap/Cap resp
Aries Asc/Mc Cap.

The blue attunement does make sense. I have always been interested in concepts geared towards "self discovery ".I thought its mostly a Mars thing-Aries self centred focus.

Thank you.

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posted February 10, 2020 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You will naturally fall off the wagon.That's normal.As your thoughts have been successfully trained to make you think that feeling "less than" is your "normal".

But should it happen that you fall off.You look towards tomorrow as a new opportunity, perhaps even the next hour.

I am not speaking of a fake laugh/smile-as that won't do.Thats exhausting to pull off. But genuine feelings that lift you up and make you feel better.

The "traffic is starting to move" feeling after a congested point on the highway.

The "your vitals are improving" feeling the doctor gives you after an illness.

I am not talking about "ecstasy" or a "high". As that has an inevitable "down". But progressive, "I am not that bad" to "I feel good" and eventually "I feel fantastic and I bring this energy everywhere I go" static feeling.

As people, we are naturally drawn to people that radiate a warmth.And that's because we want to rub off some of this warmth on to ourselves.

Its too attractive to resist and has little to do with physical beauty (contrary to popular belief). Keep at it.

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Great thoughts. I've had the window open and the bird feeders filled. Having that "state park" experience of bird song and observing squirrels and bird interacting and enjoying the nuts, fruits, and seeds while also seeing some sunshine this winter is uplifting.

posted February 11, 2020 07:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
Great thoughts. I've had the window open and the bird feeders filled. Having that "state park" experience of bird song and observing squirrels and bird interacting and enjoying the nuts, fruits, and seeds while also seeing some sunshine this winter is uplifting.

I have the window open though it is only about 35 degrees here in the Midwest. It helps keep positive thoughts. Sleep is even more important for me. Sometimes when we "fall off the wagon" into more negative thinking it helps to go back to the basics. When spiritually seeking we can go so far out into the unknown that coming back down to earth (nature/earth) can really ground us and give us the firm foundation to jet back out into the wild blue yonder.

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Indeed.And its not always peachy hey. But that's mostly because of a misaligned state of mind.

It's amazing how most of the world is functioning on auto-pilot. They just respond. And their responses are almost always based on the majority of thoughts they are having NOW. Not always good mind you.

I caught myself off with that yesterday. My sister sent me a video of a woman being sexually assaulted in a packed place.

When I opened it,my immediate feelings were outrage I.e "someone has to do something about this" etc. And I recall writing a very strong response in connection with the video.

Later on, it was found that the same video was a prank????What?I was once again livid. But before responding, I caught myself off.

First I was clickbaited into a false video that evoked very REAL feelings in me. Then subsequent to that, I am now regurgitating those same feelings on the pranksters?

Who has the power here to control my emotional well-being? Am I a puppet being pulled in every direction that has emotive charge?

Suffice it to say, I deleted the video and watched a puppy video to change the momentum of my feelings. It was easy to just "let go".

In retrospect I realize I had an epiphany. But how many people catch themselves in their feelings before "responding" to things?

Whether it's their 5 year old drawing on a newly painted wall? Or their spouse reaching out for kiss only to be met with avoidance?

We are most times in our feelings. And to centre ourselves in each moment is tough. Because the world is forever looking for a "response ". But don't give it. Not when in your feelings.

So it's great to have moments where you can milk the "zen" for all its worth. Whether in the morning, during the day or late at night.

posted February 14, 2020 07:08 PM            

I enjoy conversation to a point, but it needs to be meaningful conversation. I don't want to talk about sports or TV. I want to talk about what makes you tick. I am very interested in the psychology behind what makes people do what they do. I love anything to do with the underworld, crime investigation, psychological thrillers.....I feel my best when having these conversations.

Emotionally I can cut someone off and never look back. I don't know how to explain this other than, if I feel that you cannot be loyal and are not a decent person, then you are wasting my time. Time is very important to me. I want my time to matter and be productive. I don't want to waste my time on things that are of no consequence and do not lead to growth for myself and others.

I am extremely hard to get to know. People have said I am a hard nut to crack. I don't mean to be so closed, I just am. I get really impatient with people that are gossipy. I really, really, really dislike people that criticize others. I often wonder why people make such judgements of others, and if they ever are self-reflective. I think this is the one type of person that I will cut out of my life faster than anyone. Although, I am trying to understand these people a little more lately, but it is a struggle. I just don't know why anyone would want to make fun of someone or take delight in someone's unhappiness. These are the most annoying people on the planet for me.

I am very sensitive to my surroundings. Sounds, smells, feelings of others. I enter a new situation by quietly observing. I don't enter a conversation until I have had a little time to orient myself to the crowd of people and the situation. I feel people more deeply than I want to, at times this is overwhelming for me, but I have learned how to manage this exchange of energy.

posted February 19, 2020 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
Moongirl, how nice to hear from someone with moon in Gemini talking about the importance of loyalty and honesty.

Aries23, I had a similar experience last week accidentally starting a video that showed a woman in the Middle East being pushed into a hole dug in the dirt. I wondered what was going on and watched further and witnessed men throwing rocks at her. I was horrified and continued to watch to see when it would be stopped but it wasn’t and she was stoned to death before my eyes. I avoid these kinds of videos regularly because it creates feelings of helplessness and rage within me. Things have been such a challenge during my decade of Pluto transits that I have to take a break from the ugliness in the world outside. My head stuffed firmly in the sand is pretty much what has kept me alive during this difficult time. The battles within my own soul and looking at my own darkness has been almost more than I can handle on most days.
I often quote some long forgotten source relating to Water/Emotion being pushed in a direction and not being able to just STOP. It’s like it continues until it crashes onto a shore. Then it subsides some and can flow in another direction. Emotion is powerful stuff.

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Indeed it is. The momentous energy cannot be underestimated as it has tremendous physical repercussions. You literally feel your heart sinking as you see the video and your hands shaking.

The body stores this memory of hopelessness that's triggers externally i.e seeing someone get mugged etc. And it then regurgitates this experience over and over to a point where the psychological mind starts to say to itself "Life is not safe" .

And then the Universe delivers through to you those sentiments because it responds with " your thoughts are my command."

Ain't it interesting that when we are in a group and someone shares a sad story, we then suddenly remember a sad story that we also want to tell?

It's our effort as humans to "empathize". But we are not aware that by doing that, we are compounding the energy and creating a sad atmosphere where more stories from the body-memory are conjured up. Even ones you never even knew you kept within you.

I don't mean to say that people SHOULD put their heads in the sand. But what I mean is that we should be conscious and mindful that we don't recreate the trauma through our feelings and send it out to the world with loaded sentiments of "this world is not safe".

Instead we recognize that a tragic moment I.e one that is underway, is like the strong pull of gravity on someone who has leaped off a tall building.The outcome is beyond ur hands.

But what we can do is ask for a safer world, a happier world and a just one. We get into a rampage about this and spiral up into a state of appreciation for the circumstances that brought on the asking.

We keep at it and flow with that feeling. Focusing stubbornly on the appreciation until enveloped completely by love.It sounds like hocus pocus. But it works.

If you have Moon conj Ic like me or 12th etc. There is hypersensitivity to the ills of the world and a feeling that something must be done.

posted February 19, 2020 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
Moongirl, how nice to hear from someone with moon in Gemini talking about the importance of loyalty and honesty.

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posted February 19, 2020 07:20 PM            

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I love crossword puzzles and word and spelling games of any kind, but so does Peter, so we have an agreement: I get the crossword in the Sunday New York Times, but he gets the one in The Week. He gets the Spelling Bee in The Times and I get the Sudoku in The Week. We listen to music or “This American Life” and pass the papers back and forth and get away from the phones for a few hours. I hate feeling lost without my phone and keep trying to trick myself into using it less. I bought a BlackBerry. I’m on an Indiegogo waiting list for a keyboard thing called a Traveler that has no internet but only connects to a cloud. Being easily distracted is the reason I’m not on Instagram. I once went on YouTube to look up a video of Kelly Bishop from the original cast of “A Chorus Line” and when I looked up I had turned 80. Peter blames some of it on being a Pisces. “One fish goes this way, the other fish goes that way,” he’ll say when I leave the refrigerator door open for the millionth time.

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posted February 20, 2020 06:38 PM            

I feel like planets in 6th, 9th and 12th H are wasted.

I can't say much about my Moon's house placement because whatever I read about it is already indicated by other major natal aspects and placements (mainly Neptunian and Uranian). Like being a good listener, escaping reality by dreaming with your eyes open, good at visualizing, feeling more than comfortable with people of different ethnicity/skin colour/status etc.

Actually the last one is not a Sag/9th H matter at all imo. Theoritically Sags love foreign countries and people but in reality Sags and Caps who lack Neptunian or Uranian energy in their chart, are actually the ones who strongly dislike foreigners just because they are foreigners. That's what I've seen till now in my limited experience with heavy Sag people. One of them being a (let's say) friend with Moon and DSC in Sag, with her Jup, Venus and Mars in 3rd H, the rest of her chart is like mine. About 9 years ago I dated a foreigner (he was black) that friend had such a strong negative reaction, to her it didn't even seem normal to date a foreigner especially with a different skin colour.

While my Cap Moon in 11th H (Pisces ASc) friend had a completely different reaction, the first thing she saw was how compatible we seemed chemistry wise, at least that was what she felt. Later she realised that he was also absolutely hot😛

By the way the later friend loves travelling, even more if it's abroad, travelling frequently is truly important for her. She has no Sag/9th H placements.

On the other hand I don't love travelling, but I'm also ok with it unless I don't have easy access to clean bed/food wherever I go. I would be absolutely fine with the idea of never travelling again, I need too much alone time and I love my quiet room so the need to move all the time that is supposed to come from this Moon placement doesn't apply to me at all.

Being honest and blunt may be a combo of my 9th H Moon and 1st H Mercury.

posted February 24, 2020 09:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Indeed it is. The momentous energy cannot be underestimated as it has tremendous physical repercussions. You literally feel your heart sinking as you see the video and your hands shaking.

The body stores this memory of hopelessness that's triggers externally i.e seeing someone get mugged etc. And it then regurgitates this experience over and over to a point where the psychological mind starts to say to itself "Life is not safe" .

And then the Universe delivers through to you those sentiments because it responds with " your thoughts are my command."

Ain't it interesting that when we are in a group and someone shares a sad story, we then suddenly remember a sad story that we also want to tell?

It's our effort as humans to "empathize". But we are not aware that by doing that, we are compounding the energy and creating a sad atmosphere where more stories from the body-memory are conjured up. Even ones you never even knew you kept within you.

I don't mean to say that people SHOULD put their heads in the sand. But what I mean is that we should be conscious and mindful that we don't recreate the trauma through our feelings and send it out to the world with loaded sentiments of "this world is not safe".

Instead we recognize that a tragic moment I.e one that is underway, is like the strong pull of gravity on someone who has leaped off a tall building.The outcome is beyond ur hands.

But what we can do is ask for a safer world, a happier world and a just one. We get into a rampage about this and spiral up into a state of appreciation for the circumstances that brought on the asking.

We keep at it and flow with that feeling. Focusing stubbornly on the appreciation until enveloped completely by love.It sounds like hocus pocus. But it works.

If you have Moon conj Ic like me or 12th etc. There is hypersensitivity to the ills of the world and a feeling that something must be done.

But if you move this feeling of hopelessness to appreciation gladly. You will not be witness to gratuitous violence through sticking your head in the sand. It will simply not make its way to you because you are not on the same compatible level as it is.

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posted February 24, 2020 09:51 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I’ve always talked about that. I’ve always disliked the threads or posts full of nasty assumptions about Gemini moon and Venus.

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posted February 24, 2020 11:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
Thank you! Yes, I just watched “What the Bleep do we know” for the second time a couple days ago after seeing it for the first time over a decade ago. It talks of the science of how our neuropeptides make connections and relationships to each other in traumas and how we have to actively work to change those relationships and create neural connections to positive things.
That’s why it works to keep finding the gratitude over and over. It really is science.

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posted February 24, 2020 11:59 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I remember when this place regularly had threads about Gemini Moon and Venus - mostly negative threads. It was like clockwork, the way certain topics would show up. It's always annoyed me, and I get on people's nerves when I defend each placement. When people want to be nice, they might say, "Just because you aren't like this, doesn't mean the rest of them aren't". I've also just been told that I'm lying, or not at all self-aware (in the past, mostly by strangers on facebook), because people's assumptions must be true, and cookbook astrology rules.

I'm loyal, dependable, honest - I can be too scattered/distracted, but I don't deliberately hurt people, and I do my best to communicate anything that's going on with me, if it's needed. I like boundaries, don't like gossip, wouldn't screw around on someone - people are important to me, even if I don't know them well (or at all). Kindness, fairness, it's all important to me - and then I would come on here and see a thread with the fire emoticon next to it, all about Gemini Moon or Venus, with people telling others to run away from us, that we can't be trusted. I've been "snoozing" groups on facebook, astrology groups, because people keep going on about Gemini, Aries, how we're the worst. It gets really old. 

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Gemini Venus/Gemini Moon has admittedly had a bad rep. I think its also part in parcel of the populists making out the Gemini Ven/Moon to be a trickster/swindler.

I myself have been drawn to Ven in Gemini. And they all have played me But for some reason, I am not nearly as offended by them as Ven Scorpio is "supposed" to be.

I think most Gemini Moon/Ven people I meet tend to take things very lightly. It's not nearly as "dramatic" as everyone else makes it to be(atleast in their eyes). So why be a dud?

My only wish is that they didn't trivialize the feelings of others. Because to laugh And be facetious about what another feels? That's what makes me nervous to be around many of them.

With Aries,there are two types.One type is surprisingly sensitive and (like me) can be angry and tearful at once. The two seemingly acting in tandem with each other.

The others can be pretend "macho", boisterous and just too much to handle. Being around them can be (quite literally) physically exhausting.

I had a flat mate with Aries Moon. And he used to want to wrestle me to the ground every time we meet.

posted February 24, 2020 12:06 PM            

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Moon in Gemini in 1H. I am seen as aloof...standofish, with resting ***** face. Certainly me. Moon is square Venus, which I think makes me less cuddly. I am closed emotionally, cautious, and generally suspicious of all people. Moon sextile Pluto/Uranus.

I enjoy conversation to a point, but it needs to be meaningful conversation. I don't want to talk about sports or TV. I want to talk about what makes you tick. I am very interested in the psychology behind what makes people do what they do. I love anything to do with the underworld, crime investigation, psychological thrillers.....I feel my best when having these conversations.

Emotionally I can cut someone off and never look back. I don't know how to explain this other than, if I feel that you cannot be loyal and are not a decent person, then you are wasting my time. Time is very important to me. I want my time to matter and be productive. I don't want to waste my time on things that are of no consequence and do not lead to growth for myself and others.

I am extremely hard to get to know. People have said I am a hard nut to crack. I don't mean to be so closed, I just am. I get really impatient with people that are gossipy. I really, really, really dislike people that criticize others. I often wonder why people make such judgements of others, and if they ever are self-reflective. I think this is the one type of person that I will cut out of my life faster than anyone. Although, I am trying to understand these people a little more lately, but it is a struggle. I just don't know why anyone would want to make fun of someone or take delight in someone's unhappiness. These are the most annoying people on the planet for me.

I am very sensitive to my surroundings. Sounds, smells, feelings of others. I enter a new situation by quietly observing. I don't enter a conversation until I have had a little time to orient myself to the crowd of people and the situation. I feel people more deeply than I want to, at times this is overwhelming for me, but I have learned how to manage this exchange of energy.

People with strong Mercury in their chart attract me emotionally like no other!!!! I am insanely attracted to and obsessive over someone with intelligence and Mercurial traits. No better combination!! Hence, the string of Peter Pans in my life. Oh, woe is me.........

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Moon in 1st house and emotionally closed off?

My moon in 1st house sister is anything but that. She can't help but show her emotions.

Is there a Mars in Cap or some Saturn aspect to the Asc?

posted March 01, 2020 07:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Pisces Moon (it's my chart ruler) in 9th H.

I feel like planets in 6th, 9th and 12th H are wasted.

I can't say much about my Moon's house placement because whatever I read about it is already indicated by other major natal aspects and placements (mainly Neptunian and Uranian). Like being a good listener, escaping reality by dreaming with your eyes open, good at visualizing, feeling more than comfortable with people of different ethnicity/skin colour/status etc.

Actually the last one is not a Sag/9th H matter at all imo. Theoritically Sags love foreign countries and people but in reality Sags and Caps who lack Neptunian or Uranian energy in their chart, are actually the ones who strongly dislike foreigners just because they are foreigners. That's what I've seen till now in my limited experience with heavy Sag people. One of them being a (let's say) friend with Moon and DSC in Sag, with her Jup, Venus and Mars in 3rd H, the rest of her chart is like mine. About 9 years ago I dated a foreigner (he was black) that friend had such a strong negative reaction, to her it didn't even seem normal to date a foreigner especially with a different skin colour.

While my Cap Moon in 11th H (Pisces ASc) friend had a completely different reaction, the first thing she saw was how compatible we seemed chemistry wise, at least that was what she felt. Later she realised that he was also absolutely hot😛

By the way the later friend loves travelling, even more if it's abroad, travelling frequently is truly important for her. She has no Sag/9th H placements.

On the other hand I don't love travelling, but I'm also ok with it unless I don't have easy access to clean bed/food wherever I go. I would be absolutely fine with the idea of never travelling again, I need too much alone time and I love my quiet room so the need to move all the time that is supposed to come from this Moon placement doesn't apply to me at all.

Being honest and blunt may be a combo of my 9th H Moon and 1st H Mercury.

No more Moon in 9th H traits come to my mind right now, whenever I read about interpretations for this placement I don't relate much.

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I can totally relate. I have a stellium in 9th with Jupiter in Sag ruling the 9th AND in the 9th. Never travelled outside the country.

I do like travelling locally when all the arrangements are made. I don't want to "rough" it out(Moon in Cancer).

I also have Neptune conjunct Sun/Jupiter in the 9th. Since Neptune rules the 12th,it's influence on my Sun is apparent.

I think this would NOT make me a traveller of distant lands as much.Atleast not in the physical aspect of the word.

But it does make me travel mentally I.e I tend to do that a lot in my minds eye. So I may stray so far mentally and come to know so much, that I am "distant" from everyday people or life.

Both Sag/Pisces rule long distance.And both Sag/Pisces can be rather aloof & feel disconnected with the everyday grind/ details of life(add to that Aqua).

So the engagement with random people on the mundane and "small talk" etc. can be daunting.

With your Moon in Pisces, I would get your reservation when it comes to people. It's all about establishing safe boundaries for your own sensitive inner nature. I am like that too.

I have also noticed that Moon in 9th tend to prize mental connections with others. It matters not where they are from, what colour skin they are etc. 9th and 12th house will dissolve boundaries if such connections are made. They are not scared or put off by that.

However in the same breath, they are not going to just let anyone in just because they are "foreigners". The rapport must be there-regardless.

It's just that because their minds are so expansive/expanded, the likelihood of connecting (Moon) with someone in a local town or state etc. Is unlikely.

What can happen is an online connection with someone who lives in Portugal whilst they are in Britain etc.

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I think its more to do with how fleeting Gemini Moon's moods can be, I remember this incident when I'd made this promise to this dude, but by the time they were out of the door, my mind had already changed can't rely on the damn mind to keep any promises eh, for a fixed moon this shouldn't be a problem I guess, but me I feel like RKOing both sides in an argument and also having popcorn at the same time _o (oops sorry to have not taken things heavily)

But ehh at the same time I feels like these feelings and moods are so fleeting, so why take them seriously? Or even serious stuffs, for example death, a relative of mine passed away recently, and everyone was so shocked at the time, but eh, few days later no one gave a **** about the person, I felt like "wow! if this is how its gonna be then damn! ...

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I have Moon in aspect to Mercury. I don't make dates with people willingly because I know how quickly I can change my mind.

If you want me to go somewhere with You, just show up and say "let's go". If you make a date,I might forget or something else may come up that is more pressing.

The thing is that Gem/Arie people often respond to the impulse of this red hot moment. And then after that,the urge is gone.

posted March 01, 2020 08:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Moon in 4th in my birth chart. Tendency to be a homebody and lover of local community. I often don't even like to leave my neighborhood or my part of town for anything. And I don't for weeks at a time.

I gladly interact with people I don't know, freely and spontaneously. So I won't claim this position turns someone into an introvert by itself, but some Moon-in-4th folks may start treating home like a cave to hide in if they are depressed or give in to fear.

Both parents had a strong influence on me, but especially my mother.

I didn't begin to flourish until I found the place on this planet that is a true home for me here in Oregon, 2200 miles away. Portland is far more green, park or forest-filled, well rounded than any community I've ever lived in. I don't really have any love left for Texas where I was born, but do still like the city of my birth, Austin. It's not so different from Portland, just in the wrong state.

Moon in 4th seems to describe an instinct for insulating oneself from what is injurious in the world, for appreciating and building familial support or finding it elsewhere. A premium is placed on home as a safe place to fall, rest, be renewed in peace.

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posted March 01, 2020 10:18 AM            

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Same here! Moon in 5th in Taurus. Trines my Venus, my Mars and quicunxes my Uranus.

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