posted April 15, 2020 05:47 PM            

I am a full lockdown girl, of all the things I’ve heard, that, hand washing and its likes, and social distancing are the only things clear and reliable enough to be trusted and they are effective, I don’t even get people questioning those, whatever the reasons, in fact what I find incomprehensible is people trying to make quarantine a political thing or an opinion when it’s a science based principle we have to follow to stand a chance. It’s not an open discussion, it’s either that or herd immunity and we’ve got evidence the latter yields tragic results. Sometimes there is clear right and wrong, even my Libra Mercury gets that lol
If people want to add dietary supplements, prayer and meditation, good for them, but lockdown is the basic this spring 😊

I do think a lot of people speak in fear they don’t even own to because they’re deeply afraid to be afraid. For example I don’t consider the virus confronts me to my own mortality, as I’ve said a lot right now is just another Tuesday to me lol but for people who do feel that way, it may have the effect the dying BFF had on the Pisces bloke and if they don’t admit to that basic fear it could account for so many ****** up behaviours.

I can and can’t imagine what you’re doing now. I am fortunate that I can do my job from home, well, I can’t really, it’s perverted and sucks, human contact is everything in my job, but it’s a way to cope. It’s tough, it requires so many more hours (on top of an already heavy number), but I consider that good because I have a responsibility towards some vulnerable people and I find solace in still being there that way, the effort we make to keep in touch somehow manages to temporarily make up for the contact loss. People are touched to see how much we do to be there for them when we could basically play the lockdown card and not do much, bit of a lesson there. If I didn’t have that I know exactly what I’d be doing though. I wouldn’t do what you do because I have done it for family members and somehow it’d feel like “cheating”, if that makes sense, and it would be ridiculous with my health to expose myself that much, so unless I was the only one, I wouldn’t do that, but I would bring food to carers and help accommodate homeless people in empty hotels and such, in fact I have been willing to do so even as I keep working from home but my work load doesn’t decrease enough for me to imagine doing both decently, so I prioritise.
Because I’m on an unstable working contract, I haven’t had any money this month (there’s no one to put my data in the payroll software, tossers! Lol) so I work AND I’m in financial jeopardy, whoohoo! Lol but this is where I plead faith, faith that the bank won’t be stupid enough to overcharge me for money I was owed by the government. It’s as faith-ee as having faith the virus won’t get me, except it doesn’t make me risk global immunity by going out, so I feel good about my bit of faith

It wasn’t strict gaslighting, you may do that when bored, but here it was plain provocation, I mean, your first line wouldn’t have been more enticing had you opened with “listen assholer!” lol
I’m not condemning that, somehow I almost admire how blunt you can be because I know it’s not clumsiness at all, but some other times I wonder why you bother, you’re not Captain America, you don’t have to tell people, I don’t know if it’s cute or arrogant that you do this so often, I imagine the difficulty comes from the fact that if I admire it then I judge myself poorly for not doing it myself, and if I pick arrogant, I flatter myself for something that really isn’t much, which makes me equally arrogant, so… **** , I just gave myself a brain knot lol
As I was saying earlier, I don’t know people that well, but I have no idea what your history is, maybe there is absolute objective ground for your opinion and I just don’t have access to it, I can accept that.

One night soulmate would never speak about that, much less judge people about their reaction, he confessed that to me around 3am, crying like a baby, caressing my hair exactly halfway between “please be my mummy “ and “please let me **** you” and I don’t think he had ever attempted to explain his behaviour or talked about it at all before. He was the emotionally weakest person I had ever seen.
Thank so much for the extra nod, I had completely forgotten “single serving friend” (unbelievable given how many times I’ve quoted it in the past!!!) that wording, I feel so proud to have unconsciously rendered the style, Fight Club is such gold

I hear you on the limits of diplomacy, but isn’t there a middle ground, something that’s neither so polite you lose track, not sugar coating and that isn’t some harsh judgement that will add insult to the injury the content will provoke? Whether you’re right or wrong, humans don’t like or take well something negative about themselves, even put in a diplomatic way, but taking the gloves off seems to give ground for reversing the blame card. Is it worth risking the point’s content, its validity, because you opted for an aggressive form?
“frequently i tend to go in with gloves off because there's little point in going through the motions of "well i see what you mean but..." because i just don't feel that way and cant be bothered when i dont give a **** “
But you never give a **** : lol it’s like your trademark! I see what you mean 😊

I too noted Kannon’s mention of Neptune, I think it’s very relevant, I for one, completely embrace the fact everything has been too blurry to properly think and I don’t feel I have ideas. I trust lockdown because it’s science, other than that I’m still highly critical of my government and wonder about the outcome, but I can’t say I’m in a position to have clear opinions and plans to offer, that’d be delusional. If I did though, I’d run for something.

“i dont really see this as a bad thing tbh” That **** right there, I laughed so much 😊 , it reminded me when you suggested that girl who had a ****** up way of looking at herself physically to take shrooms and look in a mirror lol that was the most unorthodox idea I had ever heard for such an issue. That was brilliant lol

posted April 15, 2020 06:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonbeth:
@teasel
I'm going to be rooting for your sleep schedule, love.
Do stay away from people who don't get your health and put stupid pressure on you because they're ignorant of your reality, that's toxic, you deserve sane.
I hope you stay safe xxx

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posted April 15, 2020 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
... Now no mask might mean that I shouldn't leave the house without one. Dad apparently ordered a few, but they still aren't here. Two days ago, I saw a post somewhere stating that it's okay to shame people who don't have masks now, since 75% of the people in their area appeared to own one. These people might get to me before the virus does. It was so nice to see everyone trying to help each other, and now it's degenerating because people want it over with.

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If you don't have a mask you can easily make one until they arrive.

One of the area hospitals has instructions on how to make one

click the link: http://drive.google.com/file/d/1MHyA5JAUCmUqvm1r_zEc6K3PwvI2tbqw/view

A friend of mind has made two, she alternates between washing and wearing between the two.

Hopefully, I've been helpful and not annoying .

I'm really seeing the Aquarious shift in me and being more reflective.

I qualify for COVID-19 compensation but I have so much bureaucracy to deal with that its almost comical.

I need paper A to get paper B and it takes a week for paper A to arrive, if I'm lucky.

Once I have paper B I need to go to the bank and show that I've been financially impacted.

The thing is the bank doesn't have the services I need because of COVID-19 and
yet that's the entire reason why I'm doing this...

So should I get angry? or better to watch Catch-22 and try to take a laugh out of all of this.

At least I'm more understanding as a result of this..lots of people end up in this loop were certain services and even necessitates are just slightly out of reach to them and it can make a big impact on there lives.

When it happens to you then you'll understand when it happens to someone else.

Kinda like the time I hit someone after I got my drivers license then a year later someone hit me.

posted April 15, 2020 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
If you don't have a mask you can easily make one until they arrive.

One of the area hospitals has instructions on how to make one

click the link: http://drive.google.com/file/d/1MHyA5JAUCmUqvm1r_zEc6K3PwvI2tbqw/view

A friend of mind has made two, she alternates between washing and wearing between the two.

Hopefully, I've been helpful and not annoying .

I'm really seeing the Aquarious shift in me and being more reflective.

I qualify for COVID-19 compensation but I have so much bureaucracy to deal with that its almost comical.

I need paper A to get paper B and it takes a week for paper A to arrive, if I'm lucky.

Once I have paper B I need to go to the bank and show that I've been financially impacted.

The thing is the bank doesn't have the services I need because of COVID-19 and
yet that's the entire reason why I'm doing this...

So should I get angry? or better to watch Catch-22 and try to take a laugh out of all of this.

At least I'm more understanding as a result of this..lots of people end up in this loop were certain services and even necessitates are just slightly out of reach to them and it can make a big impact on there lives.

When it happens to you then you'll understand when it happens to someone else.

Kinda like the time I hit someone after I got my drivers license then a year later someone hit me.

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Not annoying at all!

I've been meaning to try, and I will. It's just that after people started trying different ways to make their own, I saw other people scoffing and saying, "Do you really think that will protect you or anyone else??" You can't win with some people.

posted April 15, 2020 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Thank you. I'm okay, I do back off when I need to. When it comes to health, I'm not as bad off as a lot of people, but I have this stomach condition, and occasionally get a fever for no reason. I was told that my heart was racing constantly, even when I felt relaxed. I don't know what's going on with me, and I didn't have tests run because I don't have insurance. I'm not so worried about myself, it's my dad that concerns me - and family members.

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posted April 16, 2020 12:37 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I've just realized that I could have PM'd you what I posted here. I've copied it into an email so that I can do that soon. My anxiety was down earlier, but it's been back up for the last two hours. Hoping I can get some sleep tonight.

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alright i read it just didnt get a chance to respond

im at work right now, not in the quarantined unit tonight so it's pretty dead

posted April 16, 2020 03:40 AM            

admittedly i already lost all respect for her in a different thread and that's why i came off the way i did

i find what i view as phoniness and cowardice both repulsive particularly when someone has it in them to run their mouth you know? and in that circumstance no i honestly dont have middle ground

we could blame my t-square (that libra venus/ascendant-aries moon-cap mars combo) but yeah i'm either one or the other with no middle ground

it's a definite flaw in a way, but everyone's got one, i'd be lying if i said i cared in a circumstance where all respect is lost

it's hard to get on my bad side but once i'm done that's sort of it

i can be an ******* , i know it, but i dont see that as the same as being wrong and i dont think i am in this case

i'm 100% all for lockdown as a preventative measure **** 's already flooded as is and adding more sick people isn't going to fix the issue ultimately

best way to handle disease is prevention, that's all there is to it, like you said politics aside **** is what it is

and from a capitalistic standpoint there are jobs still anyway, but same time some **** is more important than money

yeah i'm similar i've confronted the idea of my mortality a lot over the years and while i'd much rather stay alive i'm not afraid which is why i'm where i'm at actively dealing with these people (also following signs made me end up here, guess healthcare **** is where i'm supposed to be, seeing what's on the other side of this but focusing on what's in front of me right now)

i legit don't think people are in any way obligated to do the **** im doing, only those who make noise and would have things hit worse levels so that they get a clear picture

i'm glad you're staying safe

i bother out of sheer impulse and boredom generally, i have low expectations but it's something to do and once someone's grated on my nerves already i tend to not be able to help it

then i'll engage just to have a reason to get out that annoyance because once i see someome in a certain light if they say something loaded in hypocrisy and so on it irritates me, like wearing an itchy sweater or something and i have to

i havent seen fight club in a while, been even longer since i read it, but single serving friend stood out

as far as palahniuk goes i prefered choke, the book anyway it made a terrible movie

i would just see that guy as weak and not much else tbh

there arent a whole lot of options currently, but i imagine once things clear it'll be different

like i said it seems after major pluto/saturn **** there is no going back

you cant help but apply new **** when theyre done i dont think, there's nothing to go back to

posted April 16, 2020 05:21 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Not annoying at all!

I've been meaning to try, and I will. It's just that after people started trying different ways to make their own, I saw other people scoffing and saying, "Do you really think that will protect you or anyone else??" You can't win with some people.

I wish that I had a sewing machine. I haven't sewn anything since I was a teenager. I saw something about a specific type of air filter that you can buy - open it up, and there are 72 sheets available? I'm going to try to find that again. My main worry is that I'll screw up somehow, and get someone sick.

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I was going to do that with air-filter paper but I share similar concerns as you.

I like the mask in the link because it has a double layer design, one piece of fabric only makes contact with your face the other layer with the outside environment that's what makes it unique among the others.

If its cheap, provides an adequate level of protection and anyone can do it..why not?.

It nice to have a sewing machine, but you can do it by hand.

Your correct, socially media is toxic and people purposely put other people down and for what? by putting another person down does that make you more better or superior?

I can understand if its competition for a position at work, but Christ are society has reached a new low.

You'll pull through you've done well so far. You are clearly aware of whats going on around you and have a good idea how to deal with them.

Its just dealing with each thing one step at a time which may seam like an infinity and an irritation.

posted April 16, 2020 12:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonbeth:
It does feel that way I think, like some kind of inspection at work, if you do things properly it comes and goes, if you've messed up and neglected critical elements.... ouch ^^
For example here, if the governments had invested in healthcare and accepted to prepare for global pandemic, we wouldn’t have faced a lack of masks, ventilators and such and it may have made a critical difference in handling the outbreak.

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Yeah I guess Bill Gates did a Ted talk years ago about how we are under-prepared for a new virus to occur.

Also I saw on the news today that meat factories are shutting down, and there could be meat shortages in the grocery stores. As much as I am a meat eater, I never liked the idea of animals living in basically a concentration camp their whole life before they get to my plate. It looks like the pandemic is making meat going back being local farmers.

posted April 16, 2020 06:11 PM            

I figured there’d be a reason for you to go in that way, even when bored lol
I don’t react very differently from you, in fact quite similarly, let’s just say I have trained myself to not view those a lot 😊

Hey, no one is all rainbows and sunshine, we’re all an arsehole from time to time, if you’re it for things you believe in and in terms that suit you morally, that’s fine! You won’t get blame from me. I agree it’s different from being wrong, even as I won’t judge in that case because I don’t have the energy to scroll through posts and analyse **** to make my own opinion lol

That’s vintage Cappy, I’m the same in that respect (moon), the line is far away but if you’re **** enough to challenge yourself to cross it, do not expect a return. Tough but fair.

Merkel spoke beautifully today about the potential for relapse and how even a tiny increase in propagation could yield to a saturation of the healthcare system in the coming months (almost weeks). She based her examples on contamination rates of 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3. When you hear a person will on average contaminate 3 others in a day, you understand quickly while we’re in no position to reopen. And yet we are discussing it…

As I was saying, I’m not sure even such an experience can turn someone whose heads is up their arse. People still smoke after a tracheostomy, the day I saw that I understood that “learning” is an ability we don’t all give ourselves.

I so understand what you say, I am not saying it’s the same for you, but for me, the day I was able to wear that **** sweater and not be irritated, be able to not respond and genuinely feel serene about it was a great liberation. It’s a Marty McFly moment, when you don’t run into a Rolls Royce lol
But I do get sometimes you can’t help, I still respond from time to time, including on that very thread where not only was I attacked for no reason at all (which I can prove lol) but so was I made fun off in an insulting way because people can’t just be wrong and needlessly aggressive, they have to have the bad taste of blaming you for the mistake that is theirs and go for general thundercuntness, because otherwise I imagine it’s not fun? ^^ I rarely reply for long though.

Fight Club was actually on last night haha, hadn’t seen it was… That ADD girl can’t read novels but I sure heard this would have been worth my time. I make up with films, I’m a sucker for a good Fincher. Haven’t ran into Choke.
Sleepers is on tonight, very different but I love that film so much (I imagine they have a Brad Pitt cycle or something lol).

O yes, he was, so weak… that weakness was actually a massive turn off for me. He kind of insisted for a really long time after that to get me to go to his place and even then it was pathetic. He didn’t even manage to annoy me, he was being pushy in such a passive way it made me sleepy.

Yes! thank you! as much as I dislike capitalism lol we are not “not-working” right now, it’s really important to see what works like this, what doesn’t and to learn from what we can and can’t do at the moment, but we are not dead, life hasn’t stopped and neither has the economy, it just cannot rely on its go-to‘s and be as greedy as it had become used to being.

I hope you’re right. When I hear governments talking about re-opening and big powers desperate to maintain the collapsing order… this scares me s much more than having to learnt o live differently and reorganise life. I feel like if we don’t change for the better we’re going to ned up like in the matrix and I’m not doing that, nope, fuckitynopitynope ^^

You did good, disjointed is my middle name 😊

posted April 16, 2020 06:19 PM            

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Yeah I guess Bill Gates did a Ted talk years ago about how we are under-prepared for a new virus to occur.

Also I saw on the news today that meat factories are shutting down, and there could be meat shortages in the grocery stores. As much as I am a meat eater, I never liked the idea of animals living in basically a concentration camp their whole life before they get to my plate. It looks like the pandemic is making meat going back being local farmers.

The whole, do we really NEED to work at the office?
Jobs seem to be very tested right now.
The way we think we need to do things seems very tested.

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Clips from everyone from Gates to Obama are now resurfacing about how everyone with access to enough information was warning that we were not having that possibility sorted, it’s quite annoying really to have so many elements basically proving our governments really don’t make the most basic good decisions about us, in our best interest…

I barely eat any meat and I love what you wrote, haven’t heard of that but if it’s true I’m so all for it!!!!

posted April 16, 2020 09:03 PM            

Quarantine is when you restrict movement of sick people. Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people,” Meshawn Maddock.

Moon conjunct Mars in AQUARIUS.

posted April 16, 2020 09:33 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
People seem to be more afraid of the coronavirus than starving to death, riots and anarchy. Nobody is thinking about how much worst things can get and it is utterly mind blowing. People cant even discuss this reality without getting political, and what is really going to end up killing millions is politics and fear not this virus.

Quarantine is when you restrict movement of sick people. Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people,” Meshawn Maddock.

Moon conjunct Mars in AQUARIUS.

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Everyone is thinking about how much worse things could get. That’s why most people want to get as much of this over with right now. I mean: the social distancing, and sticking with it instead of stopping. Millions of people dying of this, would be much worse too. They are all someone’s family.

Tyranny is letting the rest of us starve, and giving large sums of money to people who are already rich. Tyranny is trying to get rid of the postal service, especially when we might rely on them for mailing in ballots in November.

posted April 16, 2020 10:39 PM            

that being said i'm unconcerned working, have food etc and so on

containment and prevention are the best way to deal with a virus, just facts, you act like this has been going on for years and will go on for decades

yeah **** is likely to fall apart, you think more people dying of this **** won't yield similar results? there's no win/win situation here because a failure to contain and more death will result in bigger issues especially when peoole are already dropping out of the healthcare system and that **** is low on supplies and short staffed

further overwhelming healthcare workers by a failure to quarantine will have its own consequences so will a rising body count and more sick people

that will also create fear and riots and people who cant work etc

posted April 16, 2020 11:32 PM            

Very interesting indeed.

Not sure what to make of this. Addiction to drama? Addiction to victimhood?

posted April 16, 2020 11:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Funny thread. Where people beg to be left alone, then they come back later to stoke the fire some more with sly oblique comments.

Very interesting indeed.

Not sure what to make of this. Addiction to drama? Addiction to victimhood?

But I digress. It looks like talking about Corona in astrological terms has already left the room.

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yeah no i told her in a separate thread not to speak to me while i was upset by her comparing the **** ive been through to being mistaken for a liberal and throwing my past drug use in my face

that was what? over a week ago

you want to talk about addiction to drama you're here stirring **** so... pot meet kettle

if you want to get technical i told her not to speak to me unless she had something worthwhile to say and considered her starting a discussion on quarantine worthwhile, she never asked me to not speak to her

either way i sure as **** didn't beg

i'm not a victim, she said something stupid and went for a low blow unnecessarily and i said as much

does that make me a victim? no, from what i can see her mental state seems pretty all over the place since this quarantine and she doesnt seem to be handling much very well and i see it in her responses to others

while the comment itself was a personal attack i don't take it personally, i did initially but that's not the issue

the issue i have is seeing a different side of her personality i don't care for

anyway with the quarantine **** she brought up the reality is i'm actively around people dying of it so i do have **** to say on the subject of quarantine and shortages, is what it is

do i suddenly feel differently about her as a human? no, but i'll talk to people i don't care for and because i cared for her prior to this i hope i will again in the future

is that addiction to being the victim? no

addiction to drama? no, just ultimately pointing out that there's no real avoiding massive shifts

pluto/saturn is a hell of a force, like i said it's like the tower her scenario with ending quarantine is likely to just be a different sort of terrible that has a lot more consequences than just a body count

at the same time she isnt wrong about a body count from other things being potentially unavoidable if this goes on longterm, but i do think she's jumping the gun by acting like it will be very longterm which i have a feeling it wont be

i see her point, but i think the real issue is that things have to change drastically just completely on a large scale for life to be different and there's no winning scenario here just different negative consequences

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