posted March 29, 2020 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
My instinct from the start is that Saturn conjunct Pluto and then jupiter and mars joining are the culprits in line with AIDS epidemic that coincided with saturn conjunct pluto 40 years ago but there is something Neptunian about this too but it has to do more with information and the media IMO than about the spread of the disease itself.

Except for your input on how this is playing in the context of Neptune responding with compassion to crisis and Neptune originally sextiled saturn conjunct pluto when this took off. There is also Uranus semi square neptune playing out in this, not just this lovely sextile. I feel both the positive side of neptune and negative side of neptune are playing a role

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posted March 29, 2020 05:11 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You do realize he doesn't make decisions unilaterally, he has an entire team he depends on, he gathers data and makes a decision with the input that others give and then follows his instincts, he likes to delegate, I feel this is fairly obvious about him even if you havent watch the apprentice. If you watched him on Apprentice and how he meets with a team and makes a decision as a team you would know how he operates.

His 3H is ruled by Venus which conjuncts Saturn and fall in his 11th house, he does not make decisions alone or impulsively, he takes his time making decisions and hears out his whole team. Add he has mercury in the 11H too. I knew this about him observing many seasons of the apprentice which match his chart as I just pointed out but I feel you can tell this about him even if you didn't watch his show.

What do I make of it? if you read the many posts I have made today I explain clearly what I make of it.

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I've watched The Apprentice, and I saw him reward a team for stealing from the other one.

He told Pence not to talk to certain governors. He's telling them not to do their jobs.

posted March 29, 2020 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I've watched The Apprentice, and I saw him reward a team for stealing from the other one.

He told Pence not to talk to certain governors. He's telling them not to do their jobs.

I'm going to look up something else later. I need to do something else, before this sun goes away.

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posted March 29, 2020 05:20 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
The disease does involve Neptune. We watched "The Invisible Man" last night, and it reminded me of this. It could be everywhere, it likely is, and that's why we're told to stay at home as much as possible. To avoid contact with anyone that you don't live with, or absolutely have to be around. It's more contagious before you know that you have it, so you can be running around, feeling fine, and possible spreading a death sentence to someone else. That feels like a mixture of Neptune and Pluto.

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I think it could BUT is Pluto that is forming hard aspects via a stellium and not Neptune and the points Gemini is making are good points actually. I would need more astrological data that is more convincing to feel Neptune is playing a stronger role on the spread of virus than Pluto/saturn/jupiter.

Kannon pointed out that Pluto is the one ruling this virus after all and NOT neptune, he made that correction a few days ago, he doubled checked a book he has on rulership.

posted March 29, 2020 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You do realize he doesn't make decisions unilaterally, he has an entire team he depends on, he gathers data and makes a decision with the input that others give and then follows his instincts, he likes to delegate, I feel this is fairly obvious about him even if you havent watched the apprentice. If you watched him on The Apprentice and how he meets with a team and makes a decision as a team you would know how he operates.

His 3H is ruled by Venus which conjuncts Saturn and fall in his 11th house, he does not make decisions alone or impulsively, he takes his time making decisions and hears out his whole team. Add he has mercury in the 11H too. I knew this about him observing many seasons of the apprentice which match his chart as I just pointed out but I feel you can tell this about him even if you didn't watch his show.

What do I make of it? if you read the many posts I have made today I explain clearly what I make of it.

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i have watched a few episodes of the Apprentice over the years. I cannot transfer what I saw on the Apprentice to how he handles his job as President. I mean, we are talking about a scripted reality TV show...

posted March 29, 2020 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I can't find an astrodienst chart for him, but this is apparently Cuomo's chart:

http://astro-charts.com/persons/chart/andrew-cuomo/

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posted March 29, 2020 05:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
i have watched a few episodes of the Apprentice over the years. I cannot transfer what I saw on the Apprentice to how he handles his job as President. I mean, we are talking about a scripted reality TV show...

Anyway, Trump still has Uranus conjunct Sun by 5 degree orb. That is enough to make him unpredictable and rash because it is the nature of Uranus.

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His personality definitely is expressed clearly in the show, he is pretty consistent in how he carries himself, I definitely see an overlap between how he carried himself in the show and how he continues to carry himself as a president.

AC in LEO does not like to be "scripted." LEO risers tend to just be themselves and have a take it or leave it vibe, this is who I am, you either get it or you don't and I am not going to change for you, specially with mars there, that is a very authentic rising sign. Leo expresses, it does not suppress.

"Anyway, Trump still has Uranus conjunct Sun by 5 degree orb. That is enough to make him unpredictable and rash because it is the nature of Uranus."

Or Sun conjunct Uranus makes him someone who goes after his dreams and with Mars on the AC in LEO he pursues those dreams with passion. Or having Sun conjucnt Uranus opposite Moon in the 4H is why he ran for president, Sun conjunct Uranus would make him humanitarian and care of about the masses and with moon in the 4H he would have a strong attachment to his country and his roots and make him want to protect his country and its citizens (with Sun conjunct Uranus/Collective).

posted March 29, 2020 05:46 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
His personality definitely is expressed clearly in the show, he is pretty consistent in how he carries himself, I definitely see an overlap between how he carried himself in the show and how he continues to carry himself as a president.

AC in LEO does not like to be "scripted." LEO risers tend to just be themselves and have a take it or leave it vibe, this is who I am, you either get it or you don't and I am not going to change for you, specially with mars there, that is a very authentic rising sign. Leo expresses, it does not suppress.

"Anyway, Trump still has Uranus conjunct Sun by 5 degree orb. That is enough to make him unpredictable and rash because it is the nature of Uranus."

Or Sun conjunct Uranus makes him someone who goes after his dreams and with Mars on the AC in LEO he pursues those dreams with passion. Or having Sun conjucnt Uranus opposite Moon in the 4H is why he ran for president, Sun conjunct Uranus would make him humanitarian and care of about the masses and with moon in the 4H he would have a strong attachment to his country and his roots and make him want to protect his country and its citizens (with Sun conjunct Uranus/Collective).

Next elections he will have Northnode conjunct his northnode exact btw, his nodal return.

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I guess we will have to agree to disagree on reality shows' realism.

And yes I am aware that next election he will have powerful NN return. This return will also be squared by transit Neptune.

posted March 29, 2020 06:36 PM            

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I guess we will have to agree to disagree on reality shows' realism.

And yes I am aware that next election he will have powerful NN return. This return will also be squared by transit Neptune.

But what if elections ended up being delayed? As of now, anything can happen.

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Yes we can disagree on this reality TV show thing , I really appreciate that you at least listen to my Trump analysis even if you don't agree at all or fully, thanks for at least listening.

posted March 29, 2020 06:52 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yes we can disagree on this reality TV show thing , I really appreciate that you at least listen to my Trump analysis even if you don't agree at all or fully, thanks for at least listening.

But yes lets go back to talking about this global issue that is affecting us bc that is what matters now anyways, getting through this together regardless of our political views or who the president is, is crazy how divided this country has been over politics and now this crisis is going to bring us together, we are human first and when it comes down to it we care and don't like seeing each other suffer.

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posted March 29, 2020 09:25 PM            

Articles that explain this:

"As researchers try to understand why some people infected with COVID-19 experience mild or nonexistent symptoms while others require hospitalization, one factor they have considered is the “viral load” — the amount of the virus detected in a patient. “The viral load is a measure of how bright the fire is burning in an individual,” Edward Parker of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, told New Scientist. Early indications suggest a correlation between the fire and the burn in COVID-19 patients: People with larger viral loads are generally getting sicker."
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/is-viral-load-key-to-understanding- coronaviruss-severity.html

If you are young and healthy but work in a hospital and are exposed to the virus a lot, your viral load will probably be high and it will attack you quickly and your body wont be able to fight it. If your viral load is low it gives your body a warning and a chance to respond to the virus. Video explains this...

posted March 29, 2020 10:30 PM            

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Yes we can disagree on this reality TV show thing , I really appreciate that you at least listen to my Trump analysis even if you don't agree at all or fully, thanks for at least listening.

But yes lets go back to talking about this global issue that is affecting us bc that is what matters now anyways, getting through this together regardless of our political views or who the president is, is crazy how divided this country has been over politics and now this crisis is going to bring us together, we are human first and when it comes down to it we care and don't like seeing each other suffer.

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I do listen to you. I’m not hating, although I know it can feel that way at times. I experience that myself.

posted March 29, 2020 10:35 PM            

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I do listen to you. I’m not hating, although I know it can feel that way at times. I experience that myself.

My friend writes for a scientific magazine. She, her husband, and their colleagues, don’t even try to mislead the American people. The way trump treated yet another journalist this evening, was disgraceful. My feelings about him, don’t reflect on you.

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posted March 30, 2020 01:37 AM            

The 7H is open enemies and things that are out of our control were others hold the power, external outside forces out of your control.

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What I want to know astrologically is when are supermarkets going to look normal again.

posted March 30, 2020 02:38 AM            

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He treats people how people treat him, the media has been awful to him always so naturally he is on defense when he interacts with them, you reap what you sow. The media targets him, that is what enemies do so why would he be all friendly to them specially with AC in leo conjunct mars, he is not going to pretend or play games, he will be authentic. Also remember the media edits stuff just like they do on shows so you always get the perspective they want you to get which usually does not involve both sides of the story.

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posted March 30, 2020 03:19 AM            

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He reaps what *he* sows. And he lies all the time. It isn't edited, I've seen him do it myself.

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Every single president who has been president has been accused of lying so I guess all presidents lie then. However, he has a better track record than presidents before him of keeping most of his promises so I guess he lies less than other presidents.

I feel I have said all I need to say about him, you don't like him and a lot of people don't like him, is sad to see people dislike someone so deeply who is trying so hard to do good, something about that feels really wrong to me. I am leaving this alone, I will not bring up Trump again with you.

posted March 30, 2020 05:24 PM            

FDA approves emergency use of malaria pill for COVID-19 treatment

Mars conjunct Saturn in Aquarius at Aries point: Transit of hope of things changing with this crisis!?

posted March 30, 2020 06:05 PM            

Prove of Media Bias:

Como (D) gets the red carpet for chloroquine : http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinical-trials-coronavirus-treatments-begin-york/story?id=69777957

They spent the last week trying to make Trump look insane for a promising treatment, so now that it's approved we are seeing dozens of headlines like : "FDA authorizes widespread use of unproven drugs to treat coronavirus, saying possible benefit outweighs risk" , "There’s scant evidence so far for chloroquine as a COVID-19 drug", "Without data, but with Trump praise, FDA issues emergency nod for chloroquine in COVID-19."

It's the same old "without evidence" scam, but with 30+ million doses rolling out, they are going to be married to the drug needing to be bad no matter what, because Trump can never be right about anything.

Is good we found a treatment for something else that is promising for coronavirus as we have data on it and how people react to it, with a brand new drug there will be more risks. This is good news but the media has to frame it as bad to make Trump look bad.

Nothing he does can be framed in a positive way but if someone from the left does the same thing they are heroes!

But the media is not biased at all...

Astrology: Trump's Tr Neptune falls in his 7H (house of open enemies) which overlaps with the USA's chart 3H (the media) which has pisces intercepted in there. He also has aquarius on his DC with Uranus ruler of the DC conjunct his Sun.

posted March 30, 2020 11:28 PM            

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Taurus is the natural ruler of the 2H.

Saturn in Aquarius is falling in the 2H in the USA chart.

Pluto is going to go through its Pluto return in the next few years (US has Pluto in Cappy at 27d) and pluto rules the 8H.

The 2H/8H axis are been highlighted.

Industries that are no longer necessary will pass away and part of this laying off people is about this! What are business out there that have out lived their purpose and that need to pass away and be re-born as something different such as factories so we build more our own stuff and rely less on other countries for essentials.

Actually the 2H also rules what we VALUE, our values may change as a society.

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yes i really think we can shift into valuing people for who they are and what they can do based on their true passions, instead of making people slaves to a grind they never wanted to be a part of in the first place.
this was already kind of happening with all the concern about robots/AI replacing the jobs of many, people were worried about it,
but now with many people out of work, it's possible for the working class to rise up and renegotiate the terms of the system that wasn't working in their/(our) favor. the billionaires NEED us to stay wealthy. the system NEEDS us to work. many of us are currently being paid to stop working, so who's to say that when the threat lessens, we have to go back to normal?? i know i don't want to. we go back when we can get a base salary for EXISTING, like bernie said, and we contribute to society what we can out of our desire to be our best selves. and the robots do all the dumb **** nobody wants to do. we start working again when we can be sure that we won't be exploited! and that we can all have access to health care without going bankrupt for it. it's NOT that complicated, and this emergency proves that the government has the resources to support everyone, they're just choosing to spend most of the resources on corporations.

posted March 30, 2020 11:50 PM            

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Originally posted by wilderplain:
Speaking as an Australian, it is clear to everyone but those in the USA that your president is not trying to do good. He's a
sociopathic crook, pure and simple. The rest of the world sees it and we are all flabbergasted about how you guys elected him at all lol

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trust me, nobody i know supports him and we're all just as flabbergasted. every single day that goes by and he opens his mouth to spout out his vile **** . (i'm from miami FL and lived in NY and CA so that's probably why. though i am aware that there's tons of crazies in all those places who are not even uneducated, yet somehow brainwashed into thinking that he wants what's best for people. again, flabbergasted.)

posted March 30, 2020 11:57 PM            

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When Como promotes a drug with promise for wuhan flu he's good, brave, a leader, finding solutions. When Trump has hope in the exact same drug, he's without evidence, he's dangerous, it's unproven. He's bad man no matter what.

Prove of Media Bias:

Como (D) gets the red carpet for chloroquine : http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinical-trials-coronavirus-treatments-begin- york/story?id=69777957

They spent the last week trying to make Trump look insane for a promising treatment, so now that it's approved we are seeing dozens of headlines like : "FDA authorizes widespread use of unproven drugs to treat coronavirus, saying possible benefit outweighs risk" , "There’s scant evidence so far for chloroquine as a COVID-19 drug", "Without data, but with Trump praise, FDA issues emergency nod for chloroquine in COVID-19."

It's the same old "without evidence" scam, but with 30+ million doses rolling out, they are going to be married to the drug needing to be bad no matter what, because Trump can never be right about anything.

Is good we found a treatment for something else that is promising for coronavirus as we have data on it and how people react to it, with a brand new drug there will be more risks. This is good news but the media has to frame it as bad to make Trump look bad.

Nothing he does can be framed in a positive way but if someone from the left does the same thing they are heroes!

But the media is not biased at all...

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well he's really not 'right' about anything in my eyes because he consistently comes from a place of f*cking people over. all he's ever done is **** people over and some people happen to benefit from that, so they like him. and of course the media is biased, they make a living off of scandals and sensationalism. can't trust no politician, can't trust no cop, can't trust no media, no class traitor, can't trust a ******* thing that's trying to sell you something or gain power in any way. that's just how humanity is. it's all going to be corrupt and you just have to choose what you'll benefit from.

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posted March 31, 2020 01:43 AM            

Americans voted for him bc they are worried about what is happening in Europe with migrants taking over and raping women who are not part of their religion, is a real issue you don't hear about in mainstream media bc covering it would be racist. I am so glad I am not in Europe.

Plenty of educated people vote for him but the educational system is dominated by liberals who use the educational system to brainwash people and push their agenda and is why I was FORCED to put MY PRONOUNS on a name tag when I went to an university this year to recruit interns.

I am flaggergasted by how much people dont realize the media has shaped their perception of Trump.